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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2012, 12:47:15 am »
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Communism may not be the worst ideology in theory. But in reality it is by far the worst.
Don't even mention YMCA. That's nothing in comparison with communism.

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You can't use the fact that millions were killed by people that called themselves communists to value an ideology that does not justify any of these actions. The people are to blame, not the ideology, which is rather sound in theory. Marx was an optimist though, we've all seen how well it works in practice though, certain individuals are to blame for that though, not the ideology.

Condemn totalitarianism, not communism.

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2012, 12:56:59 am »
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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2012, 12:57:09 am »
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"Communism" is plainly false and empty rhetoric that has been primarily used to justify totalitarian regimes that strip away individual liberty and dignity, hijacking the valid concern of equality and the dangers of unchecked capitalism.

Instead people should turn to platforms of social democracy, government mandated systems that ensure equal social rights like education, healthcare, unions, and no discrimination based on gender race religion or orientation, founded in the post-Marxist liberal socialism school of thought.

The "welfare state" is the derogatory term for this kind of system but I think it would be more accurate to say "Not putting corporate interests and individual wealth above the prosperity of an entire people" State instead.

Sadly America veers hard right of this line of thought, because our right-wing citizens are so absurdly backwards, our "conservative" politicians can hijack their barbaric positions on social issues to blindside their base with an entirely profit/corporation driven agenda that does more to deprive these commonly uneducated, underemployed citizens of fulfilling lives (no healthcare, no jobs, no education, no credit) then gays getting married or women getting birth control ever could.

Socialist thought is way out of the mainstream in America, and in fact is some sort of boogey man.  President Obama managing to pass through a watered down, practically inconsequential baby steps of health care reform so that insurance companies can't literally drop you causing you to die the moment you get too sick and some other things, doing this has branded him an Islamic Fascist Socialist Communist friend to at least 1/3 of America, most of which don't even believe he is American and would probably spit on him/kill him if they had the chance.

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2012, 01:02:38 am »
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^ Interesting. All pretty valid.

Yeah It's mostly dead. Been replaced by state capitalism (check out china) it can work but as a western democrat in a stable country I wouldn't want it here.

Here is a thought;

The notion of ideas existing along a political spectrum left------right is fucking idiotic. There are simply ideas, and they need to be thought about critically and tested. If an idea is worth while it doesn't matter who or what came up with it, the question is very simple. Does it work, does it do what it says on the box.

Science mother fuckers, do you know it?
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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2012, 01:10:36 am »
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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2012, 01:11:12 am »
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My grandpa remembers communism. Over the years he used his meager winnings to build a 3 storey high building, so he could retire as a landlord, then the comunists came to power for a little while and decided that each family can only own 1 house. Smart, right?

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2012, 01:20:25 am »
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oh dear god, please do not turn this into a "fuck america" thread. Ya'll realize that if it weren't for american democracy and capitalism that most of the world would be living under a chocolate chip cookie or stalinistic totalitarian regime? Yeah smooth, we ain't perfect. Show me a country that is and we can all move there. In the meantime though, why don't you and everyone else quit thinking you have some sort of right to endlessly bitch about the country that has pulled the rest of the world from the brink of chaos multiple times. Instead, why don't you, just once, consider being grateful for all the shit that we've done for you.

Oh wait, yeah I forgot, you do have that right. BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN AMERICA YOU UNGRATEFUL PESSIMISTIC LITTLE SHITS!

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2012, 01:22:19 am »
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Why is this thread still up?

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2012, 01:25:04 am »
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If I was a forum moderator, this thread would have been long gone to spam. Actually you can see how fast by looking at my first post :D.
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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2012, 01:25:22 am »
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oh dear god, please do not turn this into a "fuck america" thread. Ya'll realize that if it weren't for american democracy and capitalism that most of the world would be living under a chocolate chip cookie or stalinistic totalitarian regime? Yeah smooth, we ain't perfect. Show me a country that is and we can all move there. In the meantime though, why don't you and everyone else quit thinking you have some sort of right to endlessly bitch about the country that has pulled the rest of the world from the brink of chaos multiple times. Instead, why don't you, just once, consider being grateful for all the shit that we've done for you.

Oh wait, yeah I forgot, you do have that right. BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN AMERICA YOU UNGRATEFUL PESSIMISTIC LITTLE SHITS!

Well, it`s all the Austrian`s fault ya know? *inserting a picture of irony*
Besides that americanz are also not innocent virgins...
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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2012, 01:38:56 am »
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yeah your absolutely right, we aren't innocent virgins. We are the most powerful country in the world and we've used that power to benefit our countrymen without murdering millions of minorities/religious groups. Looking at the history of the world and the history of the most powerful nations in the world's past, I'd say that's a pretty damn good accomplishment.

I'm proud of this country, I'm proud of our accomplishments, and I'm proud that we do not force our populace to put on the blinders and that we accept our flaws and are still able to maintain a sense of morality and consciousness despite having the power to force our will on the rest of the world.

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2012, 01:42:18 am »
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oh dear god, please do not turn this into a "fuck america" thread. Ya'll realize that if it weren't for american democracy and capitalism that most of the world would be living under a chocolate chip cookie or stalinistic totalitarian regime? Yeah smooth, we ain't perfect. Show me a country that is and we can all move there. In the meantime though, why don't you and everyone else quit thinking you have some sort of right to endlessly bitch about the country that has pulled the rest of the world from the brink of chaos multiple times. Instead, why don't you, just once, consider being grateful for all the shit that we've done for you.

Oh wait, yeah I forgot, you do have that right. BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN AMERICA YOU UNGRATEFUL PESSIMISTIC LITTLE SHITS!

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2012, 01:44:20 am »
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There are many different types of goods for people in communism, democracy, republic and monarchy.

In communism, there is no poor man around, everyone lives good enough.

In the world, idiots are more than wises. So, in democracy and republic, always idiots rule the government.(governments are companies
in general)

In monarch, if the king/sultan is wise, people live well; unless he is, that is too bad.

So, we cannot say that this one is better than another one in general. In last years, democracy is like necessity with high media support
and idiots(as I said) think democracy is the perfect one by this media action!
If you personally think that one of them is the perfect, then you are new to the world!
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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2012, 01:50:26 am »
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People living under communism are generaly poor.

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Re: Communism? You'r thoughts?
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2012, 01:53:48 am »
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People living under communism are generaly poor.

if the country is rich, people lives rich! communism is fine for poor countries to improve themselves to the others' level, so we didnt see any rich communist country yet. communism is kinda key for helpless people for living like a human. Rich countries dont prefer communism cos if they do, they had to share government's money with people! Rich countries like to get people's money for big companies and we call them imperialist power!(Government of a rich country is a big company or some of them in share, always!)
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