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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: ANleas on August 07, 2012, 02:37:59 am
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How come 1x Heirloom point costs like 400k - 500k in auction? It'll only increase an item's damage by like 1+ or so, and why pay 400k - 500k for that? That is very much for me.
PS. How would you even be able to get 400k?
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The game has been out for a long time which and everyone on average is making more gold then they spend repairing equipment, so the gold in the economy will increase slowly and it has increased over a long period of time thus more gold to go around which means heirloom points become worth more because that is the base currency people use to trade for them with. It makes it harder for newer players but at the same time you aren't forced to use the marketplace, when you retire you get an heirloom point regardless and with the marketplace you can have a better opportunity to get the item you want for cheaper then if you just flat out heirloomed it a bunch of times.
But yeah the value of heirlooms may not go much higher because people also get heirlooms at a decent rate which means they are coming in just as much as gold is, value may increase slightly over time on heirlooms but if it does I believe it will be a reallllly long time.
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The value of them is going down after the bubble burst. The prices started at about 200K and quickly rose to a peak of about 650K-700K.
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Shouldnt it only be for like 1000 gold since it'll only increase an item's damage by like 1+ ?
Or can you use heirlooms to something else? Because why is it worth it then?
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Shouldnt it only be for like 1000 gold since it'll only increase an item's damage by like 1+ ?
Or can you use heirlooms to something else? Because why is it worth it then?
they increase your stats beyond what you can do with character building. There is no downside to them. But don't worry about them, you can get them for free when you retire. They are only worth so much because people have made a lot of money over time and have nothing to spend it on.
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If you heirloom your weapon 3 times, u will get +3 to main damage, +2 secondary damage, most weapons get +1 speed and some get more weight, and u dont have to pay any extra upkeep for that, even tho it shows different price for it ingame. On armors u will get +5 armor when heirloomed 3 times, wich means if u loom ur head, body, hand and leg armors u will get +5 head and +10 body and leg armor, and it wont reduce ur movement speed or increase ur upkeep. Horses get + to all their stats and shields get buff to all other things exept size.
All in all if u have all ur equipment fully heirloomed, u can do better. And the prices are what ppl pay for, if u go whole generation(1-31 and retire) with setup cost under 20k(~15k), u can make allmost 500k money in that generation.
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They cost more than 1000 gold because you can only get heirlooms point when you retire, which takes about 20-140 hours. And 1000 gold is being made in 4 - 20 minutes. That's a little difference. :)
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You're effectively paying for someone's time spent leveling 1-31. Beyond gold you don't really gain anything else for retiring, and have to spend half your time with a sub 30 char
You get +10 body armour with +3gloves/+3 body armour, which isn't bad. And +3 damage on a weapon is possibly better than a couple levels powerstrike (maybe, not sure how it equates, and depends on the weapon)
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I bought 4 Loompoints for 750,000gold each some months ago, 400-500 k is nothing, lul. :mrgreen:
Is nothing? It took me about 2-3 weeks to get just 100k.
And it took me 4 days to get a char to lvl 26 atm.
Wtf?...
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Is nothing? It took me about 2-3 weeks to get just 100k.
And it took me 4 days to get a char to lvl 26 atm.
Wtf?...
Long time veterans can be slightly out of touch with new players for money and XP.
Basically it takes about 31 hours or so to reach level 30 on average, and then about that time again to reach level 31 and retire. Some people are generation 20 or 30 and higher.
Some vets have/had so much money that they don't even know what to spend it on, like me; who ended up giving away a large chunk of it in a bunch of 50K or 100K donations, or even bought a +3 Elders Wooden Stick.
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Then I dont think the mod is funny when other players run around with like.. 1000k money and others only 100k like me, who used 3 weeks on that.
Needs to be rewamped or something..
And just to point out, it says on the right side under my name that I'm a beggar.... Could you spare a change? :(
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Your forum title changes with amount of posts. Just ignore it.
Regarding the gold, what do you think? You just started, others play since more than one year. Daily for hours.
And seriously, gaining gold today is much easier than back time ago. Going to level 31 is easier today, it only depends on time and your team' wins.
And important: You dont need any looms. It's just an extra thing.
Finish your first gen, sell your loompoint and you can easily get around 500k for it The next looms you can use yourself. You wont ever need more than 100k cash for repairs.
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Even though it may look small, an increase in 1, 2 or 3 has a great effect when combined with skills such as power strike.
So an increase of 1 in pierce with the weapon could easily equal 10 extra points of damage on the person.
Masterwork weapons are noticeably superior to their unheirloomed counterparts.
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+3 steel pick is just insane I've noticed a huge difference compared to a normal steel pick and even with PS at 6 i rarely need more than 3 hits to kill anyone if I aim for the head, Looms matter
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So an increase of 1 in pierce with the weapon could easily equal 10 extra points of damage on the person.
No. You can only double the damage with skills, not increase it tenfold. And it takes a full STR + PS char for that.
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Then I dont think the mod is funny when other players run around with like.. 1000k money and others only 100k like me, who used 3 weeks on that.
Needs to be rewamped or something..
And just to point out, it says on the right side under my name that I'm a beggar.... Could you spare a change? :(
Well, here's the thing. You've taken 3 weeks to get 100k. I don't really pay attention to how fast I make money or anything, but let's say that you're making money at a fairly average pace for the sake of discussion. I'm a relatively new player to the mod in comparision to the entire community, so I don't know how long the mod has been available for play, but the first post in the announcements section was Jan. of 2011. Many of the players that you are referring to have not only played this game for that long, but played it as either a main game or even as their only game.
The only "solutions" to the "problem" that you speak of are as follows. Make heirlooms more available and easier to get. That would result in these players that you are referring to having, without a doubt, a fully heirloomed full kit. All +3 errythang. I don't think you want that.
Or you could implement a cap on how much money you could have at one time, and give money made after that point to all active new players. I don't think I can even explain why this one is bad.
Or you could take out all heirlooms completely. That'd be quite silly also; heirlooms add another level of progression, and modern games tend to have progression systems for a reason. People play games more when they are in place.
So, to sum it up, I will say this. People have more shit than you and are more skilled at the game than you because they have played the game for a LONG ASS TIME. I don't think people can quite understand this when they first come into the mod; I didn't. Every day that I have played I have seen some of the same people in the servers. EVERY DAY that I play. Some of these people play for a literal 4-6 hours average EACH DAY. Most people don't have the time or desire to play that much. If the fact that the people that play that much are going to have an advantage over you both in gear and skill; the mod isn't for you. However, I think that you can become okay with that. Most of us have. In fact, it may (probably?) make you want to play more.
Good luck in the future, bro. I'm sure you'll be singing a different tune in a month or two.
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So, to sum it up, I will say this. People have more shit than you and are more skilled at the game than you because they have played the game for a LONG ASS TIME.
I've plaid the singleplayer Mount & Blade just almost before it was released. And I was close to get into the beta of Warband, but some had to be unlucky you know. I also plaid the old cRPG, but I didn't like the way you had to get money as a peasant, since you only gained money per kills, so I stopped awhile after. Then I went back to cRPG when it was made like it is now, about a year ago. I made a skip the fun character because I didn't wanted to be a peasant and die the whole time. Then some moments after I took a long break from Mount and Blade Warband, untill I came back here now and was like bad as hell because I didn't plaid it. I just didn't know how the players made that much money for 400k per heirloom, and was why I asked here. But now I'm actually lvling a regular char.
So actually, if I didnt took a break from MB Warband then I could actually have been a guy in the full plate set right now o.O
Though I just never made a forum user.
Just sayin' this because I aint exactly a "new player."
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It's not so much when you started but how consistent you were when you did start. I started playing when the mod first came out, and I played for about a month. I took a break until February 2011 and have been playing consistently since then. There are people who are twice my gen, and I'm gen 16. I have almost a full set of +3 equipment. But it's not because I just magically acquired this stuff from nowhere. I've clocked over 1200+ hours into cRPG alone.
But there is one other matter which is way more important than any of this. There are players who are gen 2 who can wipe the floor of me, because they are simply better players. And there are players who are gen 25 who I can wipe the floor of. Your heirlooms, while they may be helpful, really aren't that big of a deal. The better player will win in almost every situation.
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The better player will win in almost every situation.
This: I change my mind about what I want to main gen by gen, and I respec a lot. I have been playing since we were ALL peasants, and the first guy to get a coat of plates was a golden god of the battlefield, nigh on unkillable.
I have mates who are gen 40 I believe. They have full loomed everything, and then ome more +3's they just have for fun. If you really cannot wait for the slighty better gear, join on of the big clans. Most are welcoming, and have few rules besides "Dont be a dick, dont gank clanmates when they are lastman, dont wear gear that doesnt fit our clan's RP". Once in a big clan, they can lend you items from the clan's armoury, where most clanned players dump all the heirloomed gear they are not using atm. It's a great way to get some nice gear instantly, and they will not be afraid of lending from armoury since they can reclaim at any time.
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This: I change my mind about what I want to main gen by gen, and I respec a lot. I have been playing since we were ALL peasants, and the first guy to get a coat of plates was a golden god of the battlefield, nigh on unkillable.
I have mates who are gen 40 I believe. They have full loomed everything, and then ome more +3's they just have for fun. If you really cannot wait for the slighty better gear, join on of the big clans. Most are welcoming, and have few rules besides "Dont be a dick, dont gank clanmates when they are lastman, dont wear gear that doesnt fit our clan's RP". Once in a big clan, they can lend you items from the clan's armoury, where most clanned players dump all the heirloomed gear they are not using atm. It's a great way to get some nice gear instantly, and they will not be afraid of lending from armoury since they can reclaim at any time.
Who is recruiting?
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Who is recruiting?
EVERYONE
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Is there some kinda thread for clans or what? I cant find any
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Go to the ladder tab on the c-rpg page, there you will find clans that are recruiting
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Read certain forum parts.
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Do I need a mic to join the knights templar? I'm thinking about applying for that since I know abit about templars from Assassins Creed :P
I still have some skills...
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A mic is no necessity, as long you are on TS (but its much better to have one)
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After 16 gens, any additional looms are just for fun/changing it up. It really is even less for most classes
2h/pole: weapon, body armor, gloves (boots and helmet are nice though)
Shield: shield, weapon, body, gloves (boots and helmet are nice though)
Archery: Bow+arrows (sidearm if you are hybrid, everything else is nice though)
Cav: horse, body, gloves, weapon (lanceand helmet are nice, boots are very nice)
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I've plaid the singleplayer Mount & Blade just almost before it was released. And I was close to get into the beta of Warband, but some had to be unlucky you know. I also plaid the old cRPG, but I didn't like the way you had to get money as a peasant, since you only gained money per kills, so I stopped awhile after. Then I went back to cRPG when it was made like it is now, about a year ago. I made a skip the fun character because I didn't wanted to be a peasant and die the whole time. Then some moments after I took a long break from Mount and Blade Warband, untill I came back here now and was like bad as hell because I didn't plaid it. I just didn't know how the players made that much money for 400k per heirloom, and was why I asked here. But now I'm actually lvling a regular char.
So actually, if I didnt took a break from MB Warband then I could actually have been a guy in the full plate set right now o.O
Though I just never made a forum user.
Just sayin' this because I aint exactly a "new player."
You sound like a teenager who just started working last week bitchin cause he don't get paid the same as his boss...
You get what you work for... deal with it.
Sorry someone had to say it. I know it may be hard on the new player but it's simply the truth. :wink: