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Title: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 01, 2012, 11:41:14 pm
thx
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Rage_Guy on August 01, 2012, 11:43:18 pm
Quality post.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: wayyyyyne on August 01, 2012, 11:46:40 pm
5/5 would read again
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Leshma on August 01, 2012, 11:46:44 pm
First to -1 OP.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on August 02, 2012, 12:03:01 am
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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on August 02, 2012, 12:44:30 am
First to +1 op. It's a good point he makes, even though he didn't write an essay about it.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 12:44:40 am
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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on August 02, 2012, 01:00:21 am
Also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo&feature=g-all-u (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo&feature=g-all-u)
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 01:02:52 am
Also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo&feature=g-all-u (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo&feature=g-all-u)

Also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 01:07:17 am
Why only polearms? Why not all hilt slashing?

Why not ask for cheesecake? I'd rather have free cheesecake given to me at, say, level 35, say a nice certificate for it. Would be nice...

Cheesecake, man...

Cheesecake.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 01:11:09 am
Cheesecake, man...

Cheesecake.
Pie, bring me some pie!
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 01:11:49 am
A free gift certificate for pie is the opt-out alternative for retiring without a loom point.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 01:13:43 am
A free gift certificate for pie is the opt-out alternative for retiring without a loom point.
hmmmm, strawberry pie....
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 01:29:34 am
hmmmm, strawberry pie....

That sounds insanely appetizing, especially with whipped cream.

Ohhhhhh my god...

Now I want a mango smoothie too... BRB needing to make myself busy in the kitchen.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 01:31:53 am
Ofc with whipped cream you silly! :wink:

Damn now I have to buy, or make that pie for realz. The mental image in my head iz so zeliciouz!
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 02:00:57 am
Lol -10.
 Wah i cant kill anyone without it. Fucking nerds. Oo and cause getting 1shotted by a glaive or long war axe wood handle is asinine.  There polearms you see., hence why i said polearms tears. I dont get why my infamy is so high. If pussies that keep down voting me have a problem come to my ts if you dare!


                                                                                                                   One love we out.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Peasant_Woman on August 02, 2012, 02:05:12 am
I'll just leave this here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo)

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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Digglez on August 02, 2012, 02:05:44 am
Lol -10.
 Wah i cant kill anyone without it. Fucking nerds. Oo and cause getting 1shotted by a glaive or long war axe wood handle is asinine.  There polearms you see., hence why i said polearms tears. I dont get why my infamy is so high. If pussies that keep down voting me have a problem come to my ts if you dare!


                                                                                                                   One love we out.


Maybe after they get all the servers patched with rotation nerf & ragdoll soak we can get this~

Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 02:07:48 am
Well you can always make your own mod if you think you can do these things faster (and for free) Digglez....

Oh you ninja edit -.-
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 02:14:07 am
Lol -10.
 Wah i cant kill anyone without it. Fucking nerds. Oo and cause getting 1shotted by a glaive or long war axe wood handle is asinine.  There polearms you see., hence why i said polearms tears.
Two handers can hilt slash better, so why only single polearms out?
If pussies that keep down voting me have a problem come to my ts if you dare!
This part is pretty lame, not going to lie. What are you going to do, yell at them and then ban them from your TS?

Regardless, the community might be downvoting for other reasons then you might think. I dunno... I'm making pie.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on August 02, 2012, 02:16:24 am
I'll just leave this here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo)

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That sounds familiar
Also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo&feature=g-all-u (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIWhK8VXUo&feature=g-all-u)

Edit: Just saw Diggles' post, does anybody read the thread before they post?
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: agile on August 02, 2012, 02:44:08 am
hi dread
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Digglez on August 02, 2012, 03:47:16 am
Edit: Just saw Diggles' post, does anybody read the thread before they post?

you mean the post that wasnt smart enough to use youtube tagger?
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: TurmoilTom on August 02, 2012, 03:53:33 am
Now I want a mango smoothie too... BRB needing to make myself busy in the kitchen.

This man has an eye for quality.

You ever go to the Philippines, Tears? Once you eat some mangoes in the Philippines... only then does life become worth living.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on August 02, 2012, 03:58:12 am
Serious problem being confronted and asked to change?
Better derail the thread talking and chatting about bakery goods and smoothies.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 04:13:29 am
Serious problem being confronted and asked to change?
Better derail the thread talking and chatting about bakery goods and smoothies.

What next then? Take out all the sharp edges from polearms because hell the big 2h sword was the only thing that could harm anyone in the middle ages!! They should do less damage! Also polearms should be heavier and slower. The grip has nothing to do with speed. Axes, poleaxes and hammers were not in any ways meant to work against plate armor!!!!!! It was the magical great sword that pierced through the armour gaps and sliced plate and men in pieces with hiltslashes.

Archery should be nerved too!!! Archers were not able to kill anyone in RL history. In middle ages everyone was wearing plate and thats why archery was totally USELESS! THIS IS NOT REALISTIC! Crossbows are just the same. Throwing didn't do anything either.

Cavalry IS NOT REALISTIC IN THIS GAME!!! Horses making those incredible manouvers and WTH lance kills from one hit and it doesn't break! DON'T YOU SEE THAT COUCHING LANCES WERE DESIGNED TO BREAK IN BATTLEFIELD ONCE THEY HIT SOMETHING??!!! WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO ME!?!?!??! HORSES SHOULD DIE ONCE THEY HIT A SOLID OBJECT! HORSES ARE STUPID ANIMALS AND THEY RUN INTO WALLS IF THE RIDER TELLS THEM TO!

2H SWORD WAS THE ONLY WEAPON THAT COULD DO REAL DAMAGE IN MEDIEVAL BATTLEFIELD!!! THOSE DAMN POLEAXES BEC DE CORBINS AND HAMMERS WERE NOT DESIGNED TO BE USED AGAINST PLATE!!!!! 2H SHOULD HAVE THE HILTSLASH NOT POLEARMS!!!

Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 04:15:05 am
This man has an eye for quality.

You ever go to the Philippines, Tears? Once you eat some mangoes in the Philippines... only then does life become worth living.

I dare say I've never been, but now I really want to! I absolutely love Mangos, eat them by themselves or put them with things, either way wonderful!
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 04:20:34 am
hi dread

hi you little sad faced cutie pie
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 04:21:39 am
What next then? Take out all the sharp edges from polearms because hell the big 2h sword was the only thing that could harm anyone in the middle ages!! They should do less damage! Also polearms should be heavier and slower. The grip has nothing to do with speed. Axes, poleaxes and hammers were not in any ways meant to work against plate armor!!!!!! It was the magical great sword that pierced through the armour gaps and sliced plate and men in pieces with hiltslashes.

Archery should be nerved too!!! Archers were not able to kill anyone in RL history. In middle ages everyone was wearing plate and thats why archery was totally USELESS! THIS IS NOT REALISTIC! Crossbows are just the same. Throwing didn't do anything either.

Cavalry IS NOT REALISTIC IN THIS GAME!!! Horses making those incredible manouvers and WTH lance kills from one hit and it doesn't break! DON'T YOU SEE THAT COUCHING LANCES WERE DESIGNED TO BREAK IN BATTLEFIELD ONCE THEY HIT SOMETHING??!!! WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO ME!?!?!??! HORSES SHOULD DIE ONCE THEY HIT A SOLID OBJECT! HORSES ARE STUPID ANIMALS AND THEY RUN INTO WALLS IF THE RIDER TELLS THEM TO!

2H SWORD WAS THE ONLY WEAPON THAT COULD DO REAL DAMAGE IN MEDIEVAL BATTLEFIELD!!! THOSE DAMN POLEAXES BEC DE CORBINS AND HAMMERS WERE NOT DESIGNED TO BE USED AGAINST PLATE!!!!! 2H SHOULD HAVE THE HILTSLASH NOT POLEARMS!!!

no you dumb fucking asshole. either make the shit glance or bounce. or lighter damage for fucksake. my 1h bounces off of everything. but thats ok right cause you dont use them right? fuck you pal.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 04:31:36 am
no you dumb fucking asshole. either make the shit glance or bounce. or lighter damage for fucksake. my 1h bounces off of everything. but thats ok right cause you dont use them right? fuck you pal.

Oh you are 1h and think hilt slashing is actually that easy? Then again why not to make 2h hilt slashes different? Your original post gives little information about the subject anyhow.

Actually I use or atleast have used every gods forsaken weapon in this game. Played 1h for 3 or 4 gens so shut your pie hole.
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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: robert_namo on August 02, 2012, 04:32:21 am
If samurais used the nodachi as a cav weapon as well as throwing weapon, I don't think my weapon needs a hilt modifier.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Digglez on August 02, 2012, 04:45:31 am
If samurais used the nodachi as a cav weapon as well as throwing weapon, I don't think my weapon needs a hilt modifier.

except the fact the first 1/3 of the blade wasnt sharpened and physics would dictate your lack of leverage means you'd do gimp for damage?
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: robert_namo on August 02, 2012, 04:50:16 am
except the fact the first 1/3 of the blade wasnt sharpened and physics would dictate your lack of leverage means you'd do gimp for damage?
So buff the other 2/3 and nerf the 1/3.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Jarlek on August 02, 2012, 05:03:19 am
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Oh God, man. Don't do that. I almost laughed myself to death :D So fucking funny xD
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Vodner on August 02, 2012, 05:04:15 am
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my 1h bounces off of everything. but thats ok right cause you dont use them right? fuck you pal.
Really? My 1h (when I play it) only bounces when I do something horribly wrong with my footwork.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 05:08:24 am
You all do realize that implementing that hilt damage goodie will require massive re-balancing to every melee weapon, right? I don't have an opinion about the thing showed in that video yet. I do think it's a really cool show off about cmpx's skills in programming, but it needs a lot of testing, balancing and consideration. It also would make more sense when looking from realism point. And last but not least, it doesn't remove the hiltslash. If it weakens polearm hilt slash it should be done to 2h as well.

One of my concerns is that facehugging shielders could become a serious problem. Shielders would just facehug to avoid the shield breaking bonus from the axe head. Then all the axemen would only become "s" key heroes whenever a shielder approaches.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Gurnisson on August 02, 2012, 05:39:48 am
no you dumb fucking asshole. either make the shit glance or bounce. or lighter damage for fucksake. my 1h bounces off of everything. but thats ok right cause you dont use them right? fuck you pal.

You can insta-hit with the one-handed left swing (with the hilt), just like the polearm/2h hiltslash. Why should only polearms lose the option to hiltslash while the other two melee classes could still be able to do it? It's not like dueling polearms are superior to 2H or 1H.

Also, if you glance a lot with your 1H it's either you being bad or your build being bad. I don't know which, you tell us?
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 06:03:20 am
This topic was a lot more interesting, engaging and civil when we were still discussing cheesecake, pie and mangoes.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 06:04:55 am
Oh you are 1h and think hilt slashing is actually that easy? Then again why not to make 2h hilt slashes different? Your original post gives little information about the subject anyhow.

Actually I use or atleast have used every gods forsaken weapon in this game. Played 1h for 3 or 4 gens so shut your pie hole.
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cool dude you must be a pro then right? i got 23 gens in it. fuckoff. you have worse grammar then me. i have no clue what your frist sentence means at all. and im awul at grammar
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 06:07:36 am
You can insta-hit with the one-handed left swing (with the hilt), just like the polearm/2h hiltslash. Why should only polearms lose the option to hiltslash while the other two melee classes could still be able to do it? It's not like dueling polearms are superior to 2H or 1H.

Also, if you glance a lot with your 1H it's either you being bad or your build being bad. I don't know which, you tell us?

no you cant.  your hit by the persons arm. the hilt on a fucking sword is short. the hilt on the long war axe is again 5 feet long. why would a wood part do 47 slash? gay anyway you look at it. i mean fuck, the only swing 1h have are the left swing rights usually bounce, overheads are fucking worthless cause there so slow and keep you in one spot why the dildo pole arm guy just spams side swings going in circles and hits you with the shaft for monster damage.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 06:08:27 am
cool dude you must be a pro then right? i got 23 gens in it. fuckoff. you have worse grammar then me. i have no clue what your frist sentence means at all. and im awul at grammar> <

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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 06:10:47 am
sorry guys your right nm. ill just laugh my balls off when it gets fixed. then hear the massive amount of crying. godbless
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 06:11:19 am
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i stated im awful with grammar. i got a real job not some computer cunt job.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 02, 2012, 06:12:06 am
Why only polearms? Why not all hilt slashing?

Why not ask for cheesecake? I'd rather have free cheesecake given to me at, say, level 35, say a nice certificate for it. Would be nice...

Cheesecake, man...

Cheesecake.

You've become cynical in your old age, our lord and saviour. Why I remember when you use to be cool, you've changed, you've changed... Oh wait, no you haven't.

Yay Tod hasn't changed therefore the word of Tod is immutable, long live the teachings of Tod!

And on the second day Tod did sayith to the flock!

I would be interested.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 06:12:48 am
i stated im awful with grammar. i got a real job not some computer cunt job.

Pray tell, what is your real job, and what is a "computer cunt job?"
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 06:13:15 am
cool dude you must be a pro then right? i got 23 gens in it. fuckoff. you have worse grammar then me. i have no clue what your frist sentence means at all. and im awul at grammar

Maybe you have no clue what my sentence means because I doubt you don't even know what a hilt slash is. I don't know. I think my post was quite understandable unlike your posts.

23 generations of shielder class? Somehow I don't quite buy that, sorry. If it's true, you sure have played a lot 1 handed generations not to know this thing which has been pointed out by these two gentlemen here (even I know this).

Really? My 1h (when I play it) only bounces when I do something horribly wrong with my footwork.

You can insta-hit with the one-handed left swing (with the hilt), just like the polearm/2h hiltslash. Why should only polearms lose the option to hiltslash while the other two melee classes could still be able to do it? It's not like dueling polearms are superior to 2H or 1H.

Also, if you glance a lot with your 1H it's either you being bad or your build being bad. I don't know which, you tell us?

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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 06:27:40 am
you have worse grammar then me. i have no clue what your frist sentence means at all. and im awul at grammar

Do I have to summon Bjord to compare us two in that? :mrgreen: Is it my awful grammar or your awful reading comprehension? That's the big question here.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Turkhammer on August 02, 2012, 06:38:21 am
except the fact the first 1/3 of the blade wasnt sharpened and physics would dictate your lack of leverage means you'd do gimp for damage?

+1 for the leverage argument.  Didn't know the first 1/3 was unsharpened.  Seems strange they'd do that.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: genric on August 02, 2012, 07:38:53 am
+1 for the leverage argument.  Didn't know the first 1/3 was unsharpened.  Seems strange they'd do that.

I think for the longer weapons it was so you could grab the blade safely and stab with it. Swords were AMAZING weapons in that almost every part of it that stuck out could be used to hurt the other person. (blade, Hand guard, and the pommel itself)

I think the point dread was making, hi dread <3, was that you rarely miss with the side swing of long weapons and it does full damage almost always while also having it's ridiculous range. Why the long spears you can't swing them side to side because it would be too long and do too much damage to be fair (not realism sake cause that games lost that fact on it's creation)

you also mentioned that it would make spears s key heros and frankly yes. Spearmen are not usually Chinese kung fu masters that spin their weapon around and beat their enemies to a pulp. They poke, and poke, and drop the weapon to pull out a sword at close range. And they could still do massive damage to the shield if you set it so the stab does that, unless it's a massively long axe fuck that ridiculous thing.

I feel those are the main points of all these arguments going on. You can't balance this game it's impossible for the way people play it. They all want to be heroes and use their weapon to it's fullest killing hundreds. If a weapon doesn't do that then they don't use it, unless they being cute about using a un-used weapon. Rarely do people want to be support classes and thats why there is so much archer whine that they nerfed bows or didn't nerf them enough. I like bows and think they are at a good place. If you are lightly armored and I shoot you in the eye, you die. If you have armor I am gonna make you a pin cushion then run away cause you are really really pissed off at me for pumping a dozen arrows in you, I'm adding like 6 arrows but it's for effect.

But further more...I... Don't know where I was going with this. Can anyone see a point in what I typed? Shucks I can't remember where I was headed and this is too much work to delete. For the sake of getting +1 cause I'm a whore like that
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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: HardRice on August 02, 2012, 07:48:01 am
New Jersey.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on August 02, 2012, 07:59:51 am
Hiltslash is problem.
We fix problem.
No one has to make fun of spelling or grammar again.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 08:00:29 am
Is that... ...pie!? Aww omnomnom :).

I know what he meant but making the hilt slash of polearms do nothing would probably just break the whole balance. Weapons like great long axe, long war axe, poleaxe and all similiar kind would be completely useless because they are not meant to be support weapons in the first place. They don't have enough range to be a support weapon. Actually the fact is that 2h great swords have way longer range in almost every attack direction than most of the 4 direction polearms. It's the good old animation bonus, just watch the grip and the moves.

The thing is that you can't make "dueling" polearms realistic in this game. You have to cut them some slack on things. That's because polearms were used completely differently in RL. Techniques included wrestling, hooking, stabbing with the grip end and many other tricks that are not possible to implement in this game.

The point is that everybody is having a good time playing this game regardless of their class, right? That means you have to be able to kill some folks effectively! ^^

Hiltslash is problem.
We fix problem.
No one has to make fun of spelling or grammar again.

Hilt slash is a problem only if you let it be. It's a gameplay feature in my book. Hate it or learn to fight against it, just like any other thing.

Check out who brought up the whole grammar thing again. I think it was your friend who did it in the first place.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Kelugarn on August 02, 2012, 08:54:19 am
Hilt slash is a problem only if you let it be. It's a gameplay feature in my book. Hate it or learn to fight against it, just like any other thing.

This. Hilt slashing is just a gimmick that works against people who are too slow to block it, too new to expect it, or too mad to stop it. It's just another little trick that players have developed over time, like pike wiggling and jump shots/slashes/thrusts kick-slash etc., and it doesn't need to be removed or nerfed.

Yes it is cheap, yes it is annoying as fuck, and yes with current mechanics it is very lethal. But a solution is being developed that will balance the game better than "nerf x because y". Until said solution is implemented you just have to learn to play with it, like everyone else has.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 02, 2012, 09:29:18 am
Just put more hours into the ye olde chamber basket. Nothing pisses people off more than being chamber blocked by a dude with a shield, it's even more annoying when you bail on the follow through and just keep doing it until they try to faint and just wack 'em in the face.

Oh the myriad of ways to be a cunt with a 1h, truly bottomless.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Vicious666 on August 02, 2012, 10:24:10 am
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 10:51:24 am
This. Hilt slashing is just a gimmick that works against people who are too slow to block it, too new to expect it, or too mad to stop it. It's just another little trick that players have developed over time, like pike wiggling and jump shots/slashes/thrusts kick-slash etc., and it doesn't need to be removed or nerfed.

Yes it is cheap, yes it is annoying as fuck, and yes with current mechanics it is very lethal. But a solution is being developed that will balance the game better than "nerf x because y". Until said solution is implemented you just have to learn to play with it, like everyone else has.


thats another problem in it self. when they get to close it usually goes thru the block bud
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 02, 2012, 10:52:01 am
Pray tell, what is your real job, and what is a "computer cunt job?"

?

Since you brought it up...
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 10:55:29 am

thats another problem in it self. when they get to close it usually goes thru the block bud
No it doesn't. You are either too slow blocker or you don't hold your block long enough. Jeez... What was it again 23 gens?
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Zerran on August 02, 2012, 11:04:18 am
Just going to point out that this will lead to even MOAR backpeddle spam. Polearms can't hit at close range? They'll just backpeddle even more.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 11:05:34 am
Well, I was around Gen 20 when I first heard about "chambering" and near Gen 30 before I heard the term "hitslash" for the first time, really.

I can block both tho, cuz I´m pro  :mrgreen:
Well this guy has it like totally opposite way. He knows the terms and rages about them, but cba to learn how to counter them :mrgreen:

I had played a fair amount of hours before I learned what "hilt slash" actually means. Chambering has been familiar word almost from the start tho..

Just going to point out that this will lead to even MOAR backpeddle spam. Polearms can't hit at close range? They'll just backpeddle even more.
Yeah especially against shield + 1h because obviously the shield breaking bonus is going to be tied to cut damage(?).

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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Vibe on August 02, 2012, 11:07:32 am
chamberblocking =/= chambering
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Vibe on August 02, 2012, 11:11:51 am
Chambering is basically holding the sword in the ready position (press left mouse and hold - weapon is in "chamber")

Chamberblocking is blocking an enemy attack while you're trying to get your sword in the chamber position - often refered to as only "chambering" by cRPG players, but this would be the correct term
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on August 02, 2012, 11:29:33 am
Chambering is basically holding the sword in the ready position (press left mouse and hold - weapon is in "chamber")

Chamberblocking is blocking an enemy attack while you're trying to get your sword in the chamber position - often refered to as only "chambering" by cRPG players, but this would be the correct term

naah, you got it wrong there. To "chamber" means what everyone understands by it. However if you want to explain where this term etymological originate from you are right, it derives from "chamber" which originally meant to ready an attack. Leaves the question where this did come from, probably from bullet chambers in guns ? :P
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Vodner on August 02, 2012, 11:43:51 am
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thats another problem in it self. when they get to close it usually goes thru the block bud
The majority of the time when I hear somebody talking about a weapon going through a block at close range, it turns out that they are facing the tip of the weapon instead of the player. You have to face the player, despite the fact that facing the tip of the weapon feels intuitive (so much so that many people don't even realise they are doing it, especially versus very long weapons at facehug range).

The rest of the time the issue is that they are lagging, which isn't really their fault.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on August 03, 2012, 10:41:02 pm
Hiltslashing is gay
But most of this game is, too
So let's just have fun


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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Leshma on August 03, 2012, 10:49:00 pm
How about instead of this bullshit idea, you remove turnspeed nerf for shorter weapons.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 03, 2012, 10:51:51 pm
How about instead of this bullshit idea, you remove turnspeed nerf for shorter weapons.

How about instead of this bullshit idea, you remove turnspeed nerf for every weapon.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 03, 2012, 10:52:39 pm
haha, was about to write that  :D
I was faster :D
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Leshma on August 03, 2012, 11:05:12 pm
How about instead of this bullshit idea, you remove turnspeed nerf for every weapon.

Agreed. But one handers were hit hardest by turnspeed nerf. I never felt it as 2H, actually.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 03, 2012, 11:09:10 pm
Agreed. But one handers were hit hardest by turnspeed nerf. I never felt it as 2H, actually.
It made overhead chamber blocking dumb for me because I used to overhead chamber block => switch target and hit some completely other dude.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: _GTX_ on August 03, 2012, 11:12:23 pm
Agreed. But one handers were hit hardest by turnspeed nerf. I never felt it as 2H, actually.

Never felt it!?!?!? :O :O :O. How the hell do u play? It changed how i play by sooooo much. I had to adapt my playstyle, because my old playstyle didnt work properly.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: dreadnok on August 03, 2012, 11:26:37 pm
Never felt it!?!?!? :O :O :O. How the hell do u play? It changed how i play by sooooo much. I had to adapt my playstyle, because my old playstyle didnt work properly.

what the fuck is so hard about non stop swinging
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: _GTX_ on August 03, 2012, 11:34:29 pm
what the fuck is so hard about non stop swinging

U are saying i spam randomly? Well if that is true, that means u have to block once and then swing, and im death. I guess i must have been really lucky then, since my ''spam'' always seems to work. :lol:
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2012, 11:37:43 pm
what the fuck is so hard about non stop swinging
Pray tell, what is your real job, and what is a "computer cunt job?"
?

Since you brought it up...
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 03, 2012, 11:43:58 pm
Tears being ignored again:

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Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 04, 2012, 01:21:04 am
New Jersey.

I took a massive New Jersey couple hours ago! My whole apartment smelled like New Jersey afterwards :F.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: genric on August 04, 2012, 08:06:54 am
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My favorite thing about Tears is the fact that his avatar is Cass and that gif just made me happy.
Title: Re: fix polearm hilt slash please
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 04, 2012, 08:09:43 am
My favorite thing about Tears is the fact that his avatar is Cass and that gif just made me happy.
I also like Tears using Cass' pic as an avatar :)