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Title: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 12, 2012, 05:49:39 pm
Barely have any on, and some of those that ARE on (*cough* smoothrich) are close to useless.

Recruit more or replace the inactives/useless ones.

Thank you.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 12, 2012, 05:52:00 pm
Translation:

Plz make me an admin so I can feel special
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Shadowren on July 12, 2012, 05:53:21 pm
Only when they buff cudgel.  :D
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 12, 2012, 06:17:15 pm
nah, i dont even need admin if they recruit admins that's not biased :O
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Lord_Panos on July 12, 2012, 06:24:10 pm
I`m EU,rarely I play on NA but everytime I do I see smoothrich doing a fine job.

Smoothrich is a nice dude.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: genric on July 12, 2012, 06:26:36 pm
It's hard to be an admin on a site, especially when you do it for free. These people want to play the game they love, otherwise they wouldn't be here, they want to feel like everyone else and join clans, have friends, and have enemies. Thats why if people are acting like jerks you take a screen shot and post it on the ban area. They knew they were not going to be on all the time so they made an area to let people air their issues and they can fix it when they visit the site. They have polls but people are too trolly to use them properly and will kick everyone, themselves, and try to ban people who are good because they are good.

But I see where this is coming from I see very few admins ever on and fewer actually watching the game. Maybe they should have a requirement that they be on a certain number of hours, not many because they do have jobs, school, and lives. And if they can visit more then FANTASTIC but at least a minimum just to make them having their title worth it.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Kreczor on July 12, 2012, 06:27:39 pm
Barely have any on, and some of those that ARE on (*cough* smoothrich) are close to useless.

Recruit more or replace the inactives/useless ones.

Thank you.

Translation (Hospitaller) - > (English):

No admin ever takes my side because I'm a whiny little bitch. I think every hospitaller should have admin because then I can ban everyone and run around maps for the fun of it instead of having to kill people.

Demote every current admin except for shadowren and valdian.

Now.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 12, 2012, 06:35:22 pm
Translation (Hospitaller) - > (English):

No admin ever takes my side because I'm a whiny little bitch. I think every hospitaller should have admin because then I can ban everyone and run around maps for the fun of it instead of having to kill people.

Demote every current admin except for shadowren and valdian.

Now.

And Spanish.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 12, 2012, 06:42:06 pm
Translation (Hospitaller) - > (English):

No admin ever takes my side because I'm a whiny little bitch. I think every hospitaller should have admin because then I can ban everyone and run around maps for the fun of it instead of having to kill people.

Demote every current admin except for shadowren and valdian.

Now.

And your boner for hospitaller grows.  i think of it kind of like Pinocchio
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 12, 2012, 06:54:49 pm
So bascily your just angry that i kite you?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Miracle on July 12, 2012, 06:57:51 pm
Did you read the rule update, Aderyn?  If so, GF.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Blackzilla on July 12, 2012, 06:59:16 pm
Did you read the rule update, Aderyn?  If so, GF.
NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation when there is nobody to shoot in range or everyone is behind cover.
NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation to search for ammo


Is that all?


So bascily your just angry that i kite you?
No, he doesn't like hospitaller



Barely have any on, and some of those that ARE on (*cough* smoothrich) are close to useless.

Recruit more or replace the inactives/useless ones.

Thank you.

Smoothrich will never lose admin, he is bros with Shik, also he does a fine job, when an admin does his job, people bitch, therefore smooth does his job.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Devestater on July 12, 2012, 07:07:05 pm
So bascily your just angry that i kite you?

Just so everyone knows. We are not backing this post. Aderyn has done it on his own.

Aderyn stop posting!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 12, 2012, 07:10:03 pm
Agreed...I don't have any say on kiters or play style.

As far as admins go, it seems like during the evening/nights there has been enough on the last few nights.  That being said, polls should be disabled whenever admins are on. 
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: HardRice on July 12, 2012, 07:10:46 pm
Agreed...I don't have any say on kiters or play style.

As far as admins go, it seems like during the evening/nights there has been enough on the last few nights.  That being said, polls should be disabled whenever admins are on.

They are. As far as I see.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 12, 2012, 07:13:57 pm
It seems like polls are enabled most nights when admins are on.  Always see rage polls going up (for people who aren't breaking rules).  And if they were, let the admins handle it.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Rumblood on July 12, 2012, 07:14:30 pm
GrannPappy nods off in his chair. He's old and can't help it. Cut him some slack!  :o
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 12, 2012, 07:15:34 pm
GrannPappy nods off in his chair. He's old and can't help it. Cut him some slack!  :o

How was the gym ?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Blackzilla on July 12, 2012, 07:16:02 pm
Okay dexx. You win.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Darkkarma on July 12, 2012, 07:26:23 pm
There are plenty of admins still on from what i've seen..Eyebeat and Muki are in MM TS constantly late at night and and moderate in game and talk about what the appropriate action would be. Guys like Ganner and Canary actually would go through and lock/close resolved/off topics admin threads during their down time late at night with their graveyard shift hours.  I personally think Shadowwren and Spanish are fantastic admins. I think it's pretty important to note that with as many issues that arise daily from this incredibly shit community, a few are bound to slip through the cracks regardless of how many admins are staffed. This community by and large has some awesome admins..Better than this awful community deserves to be perfectly honest.(Seriously, this ought to be a paying job with how insufferable alot of people in this community are.)


Tl;DR: Plenty of admins are still on and do a great job. This community deserves much, much worse.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: SeQuel on July 12, 2012, 07:27:11 pm
Just so everyone knows. We are not backing this post. Aderyn has done it on his own.

Aderyn stop posting!

Listen to your superior Aderyn, it's for the better. Just lock the thread you silly bastard.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 12, 2012, 07:29:45 pm
Make diggles head admin.

That's my idea of a great way to have a solid admin core.

You should consider not talking, sometimes.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Hobb on July 12, 2012, 07:35:35 pm
I play this game way to much

 - i havent seen valdian in like 6months
- i rarely see shadowren (although hes active on forums)
- and spanish plays about as much as most the adims which is pretty minimal

So should we start with hospi admins?

We usually have at least 1 admin on in primetime. 4-5 months ago we had alot of smoothrich, granpappy and tydeus. Now we have alot of ganner and dextaa.

So in conlusion, maybe add a few more admins, but dont remove any admins because they seem to always come back
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Ganner on July 12, 2012, 08:39:52 pm
That's funny, whenever I'm on there's always at least 1-2 other admins on... yesterday when i was playing there was 6 on at once.  That and Ive been playing between 2-4 hours a day most days for the past month or so.  Don't forget we have alts to that we play on and don't advertise we are admins.  If you see some shit going down report it in I chat, chances are we are there even if you don't see us.

But the fo realzie reason this thread was made was because Ad is butthurt he didnt get people banned for poll kicking(not even poll bans) him.  Seriously ad, you need to grow up and realize your doing nothing but pissing off most of the server when you kite around for 2-3 minutes.  Ive seen you clutch MAYBE 1 in 30 times when your outnumbered more than 5 to 1 and thats with favorable conditions (no shields and such).  Just man up, take a few shots at a unshielded target then get in and get your hands dirty.  Maybe this way you wouldent be poll kicked so often.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 12, 2012, 08:42:59 pm
I play this game way to much

 - i havent seen valdian in like 6months
- i rarely see shadowren (although hes active on forums)
- and spanish plays about as much as most the adims which is pretty minimal

So should we start with hospi admins?

We usually have at least 1 admin on in primetime. 4-5 months ago we had alot of smoothrich, granpappy and tydeus. Now we have alot of ganner and dextaa.

So in conlusion, maybe add a few more admins, but dont remove any admins because they seem to always come back

Agree with u hobb, spanish and shadow granpappy tydeus etc are doing a good job, but when i'm on there's usually no admins on.

Might be why i feel there's no admins on.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Canary on July 12, 2012, 08:54:39 pm
I make it a point to go into siege(!) for a little bit every single day, and I'm playing in battle quite often. If someone brings something to my attention, I will look into it. I will put aside what I'm doing in most cases to log on and spectate a problem. On that note, if anybody wants my contact information, you can add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/cannery/

Saying that we're barely on or are useless is patently untrue. The servers are lucky to get the amount of dedication the NA admins provide to them, especially when we have to deal with this kind of baseless criticism and even worse accusations on a regular basis. Stop being picky, we're doing a lot for you.


Quote from: irc
[15:22] <Shik> canary i'm promoting you
[15:22] <Shik> to top NA admin that cares

Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Shadowren on July 12, 2012, 09:05:04 pm
- i rarely see shadowren (although hes active on forums)

Im on every day for a few hours. Maybe not the same times as you :P
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Havoco on July 12, 2012, 09:25:31 pm
Shadowren is usually on in the morning hours.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 12, 2012, 09:33:30 pm
I find it absolutely hysterical that Aderyn cried like a little girl to get me banned for putting a poll up on him for delaying when he couldn't shoot anyone and was just running away and now that's against the rules.

Good on the devs/head admin team for recognizing rule abuse when they see it.

Edit: Shadow is on a lot and does a good job admin'ing. He knows when someone crosses the line and when to take action.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 12, 2012, 09:43:07 pm
Saying that we're barely on or are useless is patently untrue. The servers are lucky to get the amount of dedication the NA admins provide to them, especially when we have to deal with this kind of baseless criticism and even worse accusations on a regular basis. Stop being picky, we're doing a lot for you.

Well this I can agree to, but I personally +1ed the post because it is a request for more NA Admins. While I may not agree with all the reasons behind requesting more, I certainly do think we could use a few more due to the majority (not all, just the majority) playing more or less at the same time and thus leaving a few glaring holes in normal daylight.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Redarrows on July 12, 2012, 09:49:36 pm
id like to be an admin :( i miss everytime they have post up or somethin. can someone tell me INGAME when they start selecting more for NA?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 12, 2012, 10:00:09 pm
id like to be an admin :( i miss everytime they have post up or somethin. can someone tell me INGAME when they start selecting more for NA?

I think they are always recruiting more admins. You should probably kiss some more ass though. Kissing ass and not pissing people off in game is best way to be an admin.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Spanish on July 12, 2012, 10:00:55 pm
id like to be an admin :( i miss everytime they have post up or somethin. can someone tell me INGAME when they start selecting more for NA?

I was like yeah i have admin all this powerr har har har and then that same day it was like this sucks.....unless you like banning people and having everybody hate on you cuz you type pretty pink letters all day then yes admin is for you
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 12, 2012, 10:02:27 pm
I was like yeah i have admin all this powerr har har har and then that same day it was like this sucks.....unless you like banning people and having everybody hate on you cuz you type pretty pink letters all day then yes admin is for you

Pretty sure pink letters is why Aderyn wants admin so bad. Pink is his favorite color cuz it matches his skirt he wears IRL.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Miracle on July 12, 2012, 10:12:20 pm
Pretty sure pink letters is why Aderyn wants admin so bad. Pink is his favorite color cuz it matches his skirt he wears IRL.

GG Aderyn fans
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Kreczor on July 12, 2012, 10:13:05 pm
Pretty sure pink letters is why Aderyn wants admin so bad. Pink is his favorite color cuz it matches his skirt he wears IRL.

gf aderyn
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 12, 2012, 10:14:27 pm
Pretty sure pink letters is why Aderyn wants admin so bad. Pink is his favorite color cuz it matches his skirt he wears IRL.

BUUURRRN. That was so awesome it was a third degree burn.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Mordred1622 on July 12, 2012, 10:34:43 pm
*Cough* DTV rarely has admins, which makes me sad.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Auphilia on July 12, 2012, 10:40:55 pm
Aderyn is my favorite player to kill. I'm not sure why anyone thinks it should be against the rule to collect ammo. He does it legitimately and often pulls it off for his team. So now throwers will be banned/kicked for trying to pick up their ammo and play their class? That is a load of crap.

Next I'll be getting banned for using stealth and playing my class. I use an arbalest, so I have to run from people and lose them in bushes and stuff to be able to reload, especially when a lot of the maps have absolutely no cover for arbalest users.

You know, as a sniper player, I can't kill everyone. If a shielder rushes me and doesn't let me reload, there is little I can do. If cavalry rushes me and doesn't let me reload, there is little I can do. If an archer rushes me and doesn't let me reload, there is little I can do. If high athletics players rush me and don't let me reload, then there is little I can do. If throwers rush me and don't let me reload, there is little I can do. I'm not going to bitch about all the classes my build is not designed to beat 1 vs 1.

You who I am designed to beat though? People like Aderyn. Archers who are too busy supporting their team, playing to win. Those are the ones that I pick off. That's my job. Just because you slow ass strength crutch sperglords can't catch him or kill him, doesn't mean he can't be caught and can't be killed. I'm so sick of everyone getting nerfed because these fucktards don't understand that there are strengths and weaknesses between classes. ARCHERS are suppose to be extremely hard to beat as a slow tin can. You aren't suppose to catch them. Just like they aren't suppose to beat you in melee. In fact, no one beats your class in melee. Holy shit, what more do you want.

If you don't want people picking up ammo, make it to where people can't pick up ammo at all.

Instead of worrying about Aderyn running to pick up more ammo, why don't you worry about the archers who have full fucking quivers of ammo at the end of the round. That means they weren't shooting shit the whole game. Aderyn at least tries to shoot the enemy team, which often results in lack of ammo. Derp.

I don't even know Aderyn personally, I just respect his play style and his skill with a bow. Yeah sometimes, my team loses because he kites. Yeah sometimes my team wins because he kites. Archers are suppose to kite.

Another thing is, instead of bitching about archers delaying rounds, how about when a melee player is left and surrounded by archers they have to run out in the open and take all the arrows? Hmm? Sounds about fair according to everyone else's logic. No one wants to watch that delayer try to preserve his life. That might waste a whole 40 seconds of our lives! If melee is caught staying in cover when they are out numbered by archers, then kick/ban them. They should be forced into chasing after the archers, just as the archers are now forced to engage in melee.

I don't think I've ever ranted this hard on these forums. GF community.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Blackzilla on July 12, 2012, 10:55:46 pm
Pretty sure pink letters is why Aderyn wants admin so bad. Pink is his favorite color cuz it matches his skirt he wears IRL.
You're going to get muted now for revealing someones rl info. :(
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Rhaelys on July 12, 2012, 11:02:08 pm
Need more Chaos admins.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Xscizorx on July 12, 2012, 11:03:26 pm
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Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: EyeBeat on July 12, 2012, 11:12:28 pm
Aderyn is my favorite player to kill.

You will notice it is mostly two handers and polearm classes that complain.  I usually never have a problem with Aderyn.

As far as admins are concerned...  I hope we get a few more.  I play at an odd hour since I work over nights.  Having multiple admins on during when it is heavily populated really helps so admins do not have to go into spectator to find out who the hell is team hitting in spawn on the opposite team which seems to happen way too often lately.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Miley on July 12, 2012, 11:16:19 pm
I think admins are fine as of now. I wouldn't say no to a few more admins, because sometimes there aren't any on, but the only admin I see taking action against racism is Ganner.

Why does it matter if Addy wears a skirt in real life? People can wear what they want, and I don't know how that was a "burn." And you don't choose to like the color pink...
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 12, 2012, 11:19:30 pm
I think admins are fine as of now. I wouldn't say no to a few more admins, because sometimes there aren't any on, but the only admin I see taking action against racism is Ganner.

Why does it matter if Addy wears a skirt in real life? People can wear what they want, and I don't know how that was a "burn." And you don't choose to like the color pink...

It wasn't a burn. I think he should be free to wear skirts and glitter if he wants to, none of our business.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: cmp on July 12, 2012, 11:23:35 pm
I'm not sure why anyone thinks it should be against the rule to collect ammo.
So now throwers will be banned/kicked for trying to pick up their ammo and play their class? That is a load of crap.
If you don't want people picking up ammo, make it to where people can't pick up ammo at all.

Is it just me or does this guy actually think the act of collecting ammo in general is not allowed anymore?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Ganner on July 12, 2012, 11:27:47 pm
Is it just me or does this guy actually think the act of collecting ammo in general is not allowed anymore?

Yea, methinks there was some reading komprehenshion phail there.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Muki on July 12, 2012, 11:39:33 pm
Yea, methinks there was some reading komprehenshion phail there.


enliish wha-t is it?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Auphilia on July 12, 2012, 11:47:36 pm
 :oops: still, most of that applies >.>
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Rumblood on July 12, 2012, 11:52:07 pm
Lotus, if someone is running and picking up ammo on the ground, it is a different thing than running around as the last person alive searching for ammo to pick up.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Auphilia on July 12, 2012, 11:56:30 pm
Not really. If you are allowed to do it at the start of the round, or the middle of the round, why not the end of the round?

He is playing his class, and no one can really argue that it isn't effective the majority of times. I've never seen Aderyn do that and not get at least one more kill. If Aderyn is surviving the entire round and always the last one with no more arrows, that is the fault of the enemy team, not his. No one complains when throwers run around looking for throwing axes and stuff. Probably because people know they will eventually die? Whereas Aderyn actually has a pretty decent chance at crutching the round.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Ganner on July 13, 2012, 12:00:09 am
Not really. If you are allowed to do it at the start of the round, or the middle of the round, why not the end of the round?

He is playing his class, and no one can really argue that it isn't effective the majority of times. I've never seen Aderyn do that and not get at least one more kill. If Aderyn is surviving the entire round and always the last one with no more arrows, that is the fault of the enemy team, not his. No one complains when throwers run around looking for throwing axes and stuff. Probably because people know they will eventually die? Whereas Aderyn actually has a pretty decent chance at crutching the round.

*clutching is the word your looking for, but crutching is appropriate as well :D

When its 11-1 or more hes got no chance yet still kites for 1-3 minutes more.

If he wants to run around and kite when its 2 or 3 left and they arent all rocking huscarls or steel shields, by all means he stands a good chance of winning that.  But barring a massive sudden TK spree he is not going to win any more than a 5v1 even if he is very lucky and none of them have shields.  Hes just delaying the inevitable and pissing everyone off.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Bjord on July 13, 2012, 12:05:00 am
Lotus not very brain? Dum dum not enderstend. :cry:
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Auphilia on July 13, 2012, 12:06:58 am
I've seen him crack down on shielders. He will even kill them at point blank. You act as if he doesn't get within melee range ever, he does. Especially vs shielders. All they have to do is swing and hope his arrow doesn't kill them. Yet instead, they keep their shield up for 30 seconds because they are afraid of getting shot. Why not kick/ban them for holding shields up instead of swinging? xD

The point is. He is just playing his class. It doesn't matter how many people are left. If I'm the last one, I fight to the end. I use stealth. Sometimes I pull it off, sometimes I don't. All players should do that. The players who should be kicked/banned are the ones who do not fight til the end. The ones that give up. Those players who drop their weapons and say "fuck my teams multiplier and all their effort" and just try fist fighting, which takes even longer than fighting would and always results in defeat.

If the community has such a problem with waiting an additional 30 to 60 seconds, then maybe we should make the flags spawn sooner. Looking for ammo and picking off as many as you can, should not be considered delaying.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: cmp on July 13, 2012, 12:08:08 am
Looking for ammo and picking off as many as you can, should not be considered delaying.

Looking for ammo is not considered delaying, delaying is considered delaying and looking for ammo is not a valid excuse.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Bjord on July 13, 2012, 12:09:19 am
Another reason for blanket ban NA: intentional ignorance.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Auphilia on July 13, 2012, 12:11:39 am
So if you see him picking up ammo and shooting the enemy team at the end of the round (like he always does) everyone should just sit tight and quit complaining, correct? Okay then.

In the event that he is not actively seeking, obtaining, and firing arrows, then sure he is delaying, kick/ban him. Until then, let the guy play his class.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Bjord on July 13, 2012, 12:14:03 am
Just shut up, please.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Leshma on July 13, 2012, 12:21:19 am
Flags prevent delaying, I'm not sure what's the problem here.

Only issue is higher than usual upkeep but I don't see how is that fault of those who are trying to win even if situation seems impossible.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Miracle on July 13, 2012, 12:27:43 am
The only real question here is:  Where the fuck is Christo?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 13, 2012, 12:29:40 am
The only real question here is:  Where the fuck is Christo?

Hopefully not here. There's countless better things to do than post in NA drama threads on an internet swords and horses forum.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: cmp on July 13, 2012, 12:30:17 am
The only real question here is:  Where the fuck is Christo?

My bad, I forgot.

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Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Christo on July 13, 2012, 12:31:07 am
The only real question here is:  Where the fuck is Christo?

lol, people start summoning me like Bloody Mary or something.  :mrgreen:


Daily NA drama thread.

Enjoy.

My bad, I forgot.

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LOL CMP, Just.. LOL. This made my day.  :lol:
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Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Bjord on July 13, 2012, 12:31:33 am
Omg who made that?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Leshma on July 13, 2012, 12:36:45 am
Also, this fellow Aderyn is a decent player. I've played with and against him for some time on EU servers. He's not any worse "delayer" than average EU archer. I know far worse examples.

On EU we have archers who don't even carry melee weapons (not even 0 slot hammer). They run away until admin tells them to stop. But admin is wrong because enemy should stop and wait for flags, not trying to catch an archer like headless chickens.

I've witnessed when cmp said something about this subject, how admins shouldn't kick ranged players because it seems that they are delaying. They can't delay if you play smart and wait for flags to spawn.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Christo on July 13, 2012, 12:38:18 am
Ah god damnit. I lost my avatar. Q_Q
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Momo on July 13, 2012, 12:43:07 am
The only real question here is:  Where the fuck is Christo?

Btw, what does Christo have to do with NA admins? xD
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Christo on July 13, 2012, 12:46:17 am
Btw, what does Christo have to do with NA admins? xD

Nothing.

With announcing drama threads?

Everything.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Momo on July 13, 2012, 12:47:20 am
Nothing.

With announcing drama threads?

Everything.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: betard_lulz on July 13, 2012, 12:52:59 am
*clutching is the word your looking for, but crutching is appropriate as well :D

When its 11-1 or more hes got no chance yet still kites for 1-3 minutes more.

If he wants to run around and kite when its 2 or 3 left and they arent all rocking huscarls or steel shields, by all means he stands a good chance of winning that.  But barring a massive sudden TK spree he is not going to win any more than a 5v1 even if he is very lucky and none of them have shields.  Hes just delaying the inevitable and pissing everyone off.
Wanna know why you're wrong?
Hobb in a 2 v 10 killed 8 people.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 12:53:04 am
My bad, I forgot.

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CMP what is news on buff to cudgel?!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 12:54:11 am
Wanna know why you're wrong?
Hobb in a 2 v 10 killed 8 people.

Hobb fighting 2 v 10 and killing 8 noobs who weren't even swinging at him properly is not the same. People like Hobb and were messing with him, at least some of them.

Most people hate Aderyn when he delays and they aren't going to dick around. They're either going to chase him and do their best to render him incapable of running or shooting, or hide until MotF comes up.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Allers on July 13, 2012, 12:56:39 am
This game detects auto aimers yet or still just autoblockers
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: San on July 13, 2012, 01:01:57 am
If I have to chase a kiting opponent for minutes on end, I'd rather just hide and wait for flags. I think there needs to be a line drawn when someone is just running away and making 0 progress, though (this includes melee, too).
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 01:03:22 am
If I have to chase a kiting opponent for minutes on end, I'd rather just hide and wait for flags. I think there needs to be a line drawn when someone is just running away and making 0 progress, though (this includes melee, too).

There was. Now if you are last alive and you aren't actively shooting at someone or they are in cover and you can't hit them, running away is considered delaying.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: cmp on July 13, 2012, 01:04:16 am
Hiding and waiting for flags is a smart thing to do, because if you do it properly he is forced to engage you in melee or he is effectively delaying according to the rules (not this one, the older one).
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Leshma on July 13, 2012, 01:13:53 am
I was forced to chase xbowmen (who had a mace) for 4 minutes and 30 seconds. Yes, I'm greatsword user so he has an excuse for fleeing but still, 4 and a half minutes! He wasn' the last one but his partner in crime was infamous Blackbow, who was chased for 4 minutes by 3 teamates  of mine. It was 6 vs 2, at the end they won. Very frustrating.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Allers on July 13, 2012, 01:15:16 am
Has anyone asked you what your name means cmp :?:
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: cmp on July 13, 2012, 01:21:01 am
Has anyone asked you what your name means cmp :?:

Many. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cmpxchg8b&l=1)
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 01:44:35 am
Thread derailed alittle. Why is it about me? This is a thread about needing more admins u goons.

For those of you who don't know my playstyle here it is so you can stop your whining.

I'm usually the first to engage the enemy. Usually the first to see cav come charging at me (usually many at once :((( )

And sometimes, i'm last alive aswell. I'm slippery as an eel. Those times i'm last alive and there's 5-12 alive i usually keep fighting. I mean, why not? I've been fighting the whole round, it's not like i'm gonna drop my weapons and just die. And no, i'm not gonna fight a plate guy with my pickaxe and 0 ps and 0 wpf.
That, if anything, should be considered delaying(if i can block well).

Thus, grabbing a few arrows that's INFRONT OF ME should be legitimate. I mean... i've been fighting the whole round, why should i not be able to pick up the ones infront of me?
That said, if i know i can't grab another arrow, or i know i face certain death (as in 0% survival) i will usually bring out the pickaxe and fight! I also fight with pickaxe if i see a new player and he's not surrounded by like 10 guys in plate with shield or 2h or polearm :/

When i'm kiting i usually keep JUST out of their weaponsrange. I sometimes feel brave and wanna "take the shot" and pretty much make it a HIT OR DIE LIVE.

I'm 100% sure that if people wouldn't chase me around like if they where A.I in singleplayer (headless chicken like leshma put it), shit would go down alot differently.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Rhaelys on July 13, 2012, 01:50:44 am
Thread derailed alittle. Why is it about me? This is a thread about needing more admins u goons.

For those of you who don't know my playstyle here it is so you can stop your whining.

I'm usually the first to engage the enemy. Usually the first to see cav come charging at me (usually many at once :((( )

And sometimes, i'm last alive aswell. I'm slippery as an eel. Those times i'm last alive and there's 5-12 alive i usually keep fighting. I mean, why not? I've been fighting the whole round, it's not like i'm gonna drop my weapons and just die. And no, i'm not gonna fight a plate guy with my pickaxe and 0 ps and 0 wpf.
That, if anything, should be considered delaying(if i can block well).

Thus, grabbing a few arrows that's INFRONT OF ME should be legitimate. I mean... i've been fighting the whole round, why should i not be able to pick up the ones infront of me?
That said, if i know i can't grab another arrow, or i know i face certain death (as in 0% survival) i will usually bring out the pickaxe and fight! I also fight with pickaxe if i see a new player and he's not surrounded by like 10 guys in plate with shield or 2h or polearm :/

When i'm kiting i usually keep JUST out of their weaponsrange. I sometimes feel brave and wanna "take the shot" and pretty much make it a HIT OR DIE LIVE.

I'm 100% sure that if people wouldn't chase me around like if they where A.I in singleplayer (headless chicken like leshma put it), shit would go down alot differently.

Aderyn, why did you downvote my post :[

In all seriousness though, I've been a veteran of this game for over 2 years and I'd make an excellent admin.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Tyrell on July 13, 2012, 02:41:46 am
Away from the shitmod for like 2 months and the Sperglers still bitch about everything.

Why am I not surprised?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 03:37:50 am
Thread derailed alittle. Why is it about me? This is a thread about needing more admins u goons.

For those of you who don't know my playstyle here it is so you can stop your whining.

I'm usually the first to engage the enemy. Usually the first to see cav come charging at me (usually many at once :((( )

And sometimes, i'm last alive aswell. I'm slippery as an eel. Those times i'm last alive and there's 5-12 alive i usually keep fighting. I mean, why not? I've been fighting the whole round, it's not like i'm gonna drop my weapons and just die. And no, i'm not gonna fight a plate guy with my pickaxe and 0 ps and 0 wpf.
That, if anything, should be considered delaying(if i can block well).

Thus, grabbing a few arrows that's INFRONT OF ME should be legitimate. I mean... i've been fighting the whole round, why should i not be able to pick up the ones infront of me?
That said, if i know i can't grab another arrow, or i know i face certain death (as in 0% survival) i will usually bring out the pickaxe and fight! I also fight with pickaxe if i see a new player and he's not surrounded by like 10 guys in plate with shield or 2h or polearm :/

When i'm kiting i usually keep JUST out of their weaponsrange. I sometimes feel brave and wanna "take the shot" and pretty much make it a HIT OR DIE LIVE.

I'm 100% sure that if people wouldn't chase me around like if they where A.I in singleplayer (headless chicken like leshma put it), shit would go down alot differently.

What is it about you? You're a jerk. Look at all the ban requests you put up. It's a game. People who play this game like to hang out and have fun. People like you ruin the fun for people.

You and I always got along and I always like you, you were blatantly delaying the round I put a vote on you. What you did then now is against the rules, but you put a vote on me anyways? Someone who had always been nice to you, and always been your friend, puts a vote on you when you waste everyone's time that got DECLINED by the way, and you still feel the need to go on forums and put up BAN request on someone who you were supposed to be friends with? That's why thread got derailed. Very few people want to listen to anything you have to say.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Allers on July 13, 2012, 03:41:45 am
Many. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cmpxchg8b&l=1)

OMAI WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

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Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 04:32:26 am
tugboat, what i do is not against the rules. face it :/

also. We could be friends, but why would you votekick me and talk shit about me 24/7 if you wanted that?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 04:37:48 am
tugboat, what i do is not against the rules. face it :/

also. We could be friends, but why would you votekick me and talk shit about me 24/7 if you wanted that?

The new rules it is against the rules
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 04:57:40 am
what part is it i'm doing that's not allowed tugboat? :)
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 05:05:33 am
what part is it i'm doing that's not allowed tugboat? :)

Running when you are last one alive when you are unable to do anything with your ranged weapon
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 05:24:13 am
Running when you are last one alive when you are unable to do anything with your ranged weapon

who are you to decide if i can do anything with my rangeweapon or not? ;)
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Visconti on July 13, 2012, 05:45:11 am
I think Rhaelys would make a good admin, as to current NA admins, i think we still have some good ones. Smoothrich does his job fine, Ganner and spaniard are good admins as well. Some more would be nice though
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 06:00:41 am
who are you to decide if i can do anything with my rangeweapon or not? ;)

I didn't decide, I watched you unable to aim any shots or hit anyone.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 13, 2012, 06:02:13 am
BANDERS FOR ADMIN 2012!

Looky at sig!

Concerning adyren:
U delay. Agile is better with a bow AND melee. Take a seat and learn from agile!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 06:02:35 am
I didn't decide, I watched you unable to aim any shots or hit anyone.

Whatever dude. I'm sure others wouldn't agree with you, i.e the ones that eat my arrows.

Get back on topic. this isn't a hate thread, this is a request for more admins thread. If you feel you wanna hate on me, do it on steam or something or in private messages.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: RUSSOxD2366 on July 13, 2012, 06:07:07 am
Thread derailed alittle. Why is it about me? This is a thread about needing more admins u goons.

For those of you who don't know my playstyle here it is so you can stop your whining.

I'm usually the first to engage the enemy. Usually the first to see cav come charging at me (usually many at once :((( )

And sometimes, i'm last alive aswell. I'm slippery as an eel. Those times i'm last alive and there's 5-12 alive i usually keep fighting. I mean, why not? I've been fighting the whole round, it's not like i'm gonna drop my weapons and just die. And no, i'm not gonna fight a plate guy with my pickaxe and 0 ps and 0 wpf.
That, if anything, should be considered delaying(if i can block well).

Thus, grabbing a few arrows that's INFRONT OF ME should be legitimate. I mean... i've been fighting the whole round, why should i not be able to pick up the ones infront of me?
That said, if i know i can't grab another arrow, or i know i face certain death (as in 0% survival) i will usually bring out the pickaxe and fight! I also fight with pickaxe if i see a new player and he's not surrounded by like 10 guys in plate with shield or 2h or polearm :/

When i'm kiting i usually keep JUST out of their weaponsrange. I sometimes feel brave and wanna "take the shot" and pretty much make it a HIT OR DIE LIVE.

I'm 100% sure that if people wouldn't chase me around like if they where A.I in singleplayer (headless chicken like leshma put it), shit would go down alot differently.

Aderyn you dishonor high ping players,
I mean cmon, chile has way better internet than brazil and still im the only fucking one(100+ping) that takes the fight to the meele.
useless reply i know, im here to tell ill be playing paintball in santiago 17/18 august, if youre interested to go just google the south american championship CSP, and see where its going down.
ahahaa i just couched you
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: RUSSOxD2366 on July 13, 2012, 06:09:24 am
If you start recruiting admins i definitly want a spot!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 06:24:02 am
Aderyn you dishonor high ping players,
I mean cmon, chile has way better internet than brazil and still im the only fucking one(100+ping) that takes the fight to the meele.
useless reply i know, im here to tell ill be playing paintball in santiago 17/18 august, if youre interested to go just google the south american championship CSP, and see where its going down.
ahahaa i just couched you

i'm 12 and what is this?

in related news: I like turtles.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Spanish on July 13, 2012, 06:39:26 am
For realz guys stop praising my adminness because im feeling to much love right now  :shock:
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Rhaelys on July 13, 2012, 07:08:52 am
For realz guys stop praising my adminness because im feeling to much love right now  :shock:

I think Kaoklai is in the mood to -1 every admin-related post in this thread.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 13, 2012, 07:15:50 am
I think Kaoklai is in the mood to -1 every admin-related post in this thread these forums.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Smoothrich on July 13, 2012, 12:06:59 pm
You said it's not a hate thread, yet I am called out by name for some reason, then you try to save face my steering the subject away from it being a petty slap at me cuz you are not getting ban requests rubber stamped.

I responded to your criticism in my feedback thread that has obviously started you on this shit posting spree here.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17457.msg544106.html#msg544106 (feel free to spam negative votes on my poll, 87 people have already beaten you to it!)

I think that is a good example of how I or most admins actually handle enforcing or understanding the rules.  Whenever there is a problem or a misunderstanding we discuss it on our private board, a lot of us hang out in IRC and can be contacted there, and I have plenty of admins and players on my Steam friends list who now and then contact me to handle a problem on the servers.  I don't know what most people expect, but admins are there to ban people doing stupid shit like teamkilling at spawn, respond to complaints in "i" chat, spectate suspicious troublemakers, and check in on the ban request forum when they can to handle problems.

Note again about you asking for a ban because someone submitted a kick poll when they felt you were breaking the rules.  Do you really think an admin who was on the server at the time would instantly ban the poll submitter with "12 hr ban" as you so eloquently demanded in your initial ban request?  I really doubt it, and ban requests on the forums shouldn't be any different from what admins usually do in game, which is warn, explain the rules, and in the case of repeat offenders or very obvious griefing/intentional teamkilling and the like, a reasonable ban.

To the discussion of the rules on delaying, I don't think any admin is going to go ahead and kick or ban someone the moment they are last alive if they are a ranged class and need an extra arrow or two that's just around the corner, but just the playerbase and admins expect people who are last alive to actually try to play the game, engage enemies, do their best to win but don't just run away and do nothing for minutes at a time.  Dragging out the round will actually increase upkeep costs for everyone playing (I believe) and if you have no way to win, you are both making everyone who's dead suffer through several more minutes of boredom and greatly hurting new players who might be low on gold by increasing the chances of all their gear breaking.

You're allowed to kite of course, but there is a line between kiting to clutch and delaying to grief, of course it might seem different to different people, but admins and poll submitters have at most to go by, their common sense. 

As for new admins, we have an application thread for that, located here:  http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,10994.0.html

If you feel suited for all the rage you can be expected to receive on a common basis from enforcing rules on self-entitled ban request forum superstars, griefers with a ban history 3 pages long, random revenge teamkillers on Siege that seem to be there 10 times over whenever I play it, keep an eye on hilarious forum drama and trolling over nonsensical things involving in game griefing/havoc, and VIP access to the dev/admin IRC and NA Official Admin Sub-Forum  (the Studio 54 of the internet), submit your application today!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 12:30:59 pm
i'd pull some threads about the same offence where people got banned for 12h for pollabusing just like this but seems they've been all been removed pre-july. Too bad, was gonna shower you in threads :/

and yes, i stand for everything i wrote about you in your feedback thread.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Smoothrich on July 13, 2012, 12:41:15 pm
i'd pull some threads about the same offence where people got banned for 12h for pollabusing just like this but seems they've been all been removed pre-july. Too bad, was gonna shower you in threads :/

and yes, i stand for everything i wrote about you in your feedback thread.

The difference here was in at least one instance before or when polls were enabled, I'm not sure, you literally ran out of ammo and could only shoot once every 30-60 seconds while running away against 6 or more people while last alive.  This appeared to be abusive, delaying behaviour to the players and the online admin, and upon internal discussion it was settled that it was.  Maybe polls weren't submitted during that exact scenario, but it seemed best to not punish anyone involved in the kiting or the polling, just explain the rules, close the threads, and move on with life.  Boy, how abusive!

Any examples you are looking for would probably be Rohypnol, who I've never seen ride around collecting bolts after running out while last alive.  He was kick or ban polled so often when he was on that he eventually had to turn to admins to help him out and get people to knock it off, because for a period of time he wasn't able to play the game because the moment he was last alive people would submit polls against him, or teamkill him the next round/map.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 04:30:34 pm
wich part of me shooting every 5-10 seconds and having a crapload of arrows don't you understand?
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Slev23 on July 13, 2012, 05:00:09 pm
I think the admins we have on are fine, considering they can't do anything, right or wrong without a hail of "ABOOSE!", I can see why they don't come on all the time.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Rumblood on July 13, 2012, 05:07:42 pm
This game detects auto aimers yet or still just autoblockers

Anyone who could make an effective auto-aimer that would actually work in this game shouldn't be wasting time making hacks for games. Archery isn't like FPS's where the bullet goes from gun to head instantaneously. You have an arc to the flight that varies based upon the bow and your wpf. Players move at varying speeds and arrows actually take time to travel to that point.

So it would have to be able to find an enemy, gauge its vector, adjust for the arrow flight arc, adjust for the arrow speed, and then let loose.

Maybe they could make one, but I bet the first update that tweaks those stats in the game will break it. (and I bet players will still be better)

NA Admins wurst Admins!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: dynamike on July 13, 2012, 05:10:10 pm
I challenge you all for adminship. Duel server, let's go!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 13, 2012, 05:26:42 pm
I challenge you all for adminship. Duel server, let's go!

I challenge YOU first.

BANDERS for Admin!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: dynamike on July 13, 2012, 05:36:07 pm
Quote from: Darkkarma
-1

Sorry, only actual admins are allowed to downvote (=reject) the duel request.

Would have been a cause worth fighting to take yours though  :wink:
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Darkkarma on July 13, 2012, 05:37:37 pm
You would make a post  about getting -1'd you self important crybaby.  :lol:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: dynamike on July 13, 2012, 05:47:25 pm
You would make a post  about getting -1'd you self important crybaby.  :lol:

(click to show/hide)

Mission: "ruffle feathers" = accomplished  :)

Have a successful day!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: TugBoat on July 13, 2012, 05:50:49 pm
What we have learned from this thread:

Aderyn thinks he's God.
People don't like Aderyn.
Most admins we got do a good job, but we might need more.
Some people think Aderyn use aimbot but have no proof.
Delaying is delaying regardless of objective or attempted usefulness.
Haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Darkkarma on July 13, 2012, 06:01:41 pm
Mission: "ruffle feathers" = accomplished  :)

Have a successful day!

Trying to say you're just trolling when you get told off is pretty silly. Especially considering how much you overreact to troll posts.

Back on topic though


I dont think a few more admins could hurt. I don't see many mid day admins these days.

Also, Aderyn is a bit egotistical and biased, but he's a great player and i've never seen him actively delay a round unless flags haven't popped up.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: genric on July 13, 2012, 06:48:26 pm
What we have learned from this thread:

Aderyn thinks he's God.
People don't like Aderyn.
Most admins we got do a good job, but we might need more.
Some people think Aderyn use aimbot but have no proof.
Delaying is delaying regardless of objective or attempted usefulness.
Haters gonna hate.

Don't forget no one likes Diggles
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Slev23 on July 13, 2012, 06:49:03 pm
Don't forget no one likes Diggles

Pretty much what we learn from every thread.
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Cyclopsided on July 13, 2012, 06:52:34 pm
What we have learned from this thread:

Aderyn thinks he's God.
People don't like Aderyn.
Most admins we got do a good job, but we might need more.
Some people think Aderyn use aimbot but have no proof.
Delaying is delaying regardless of objective or attempted usefulness.
Haters gonna hate.
woah woah
nobody thinks he is so good he uses an aimbot
Don't forget no one likes Diggles
Noo, I lvoe digglez!
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Spanish on July 13, 2012, 07:48:20 pm
I see other NH guys postin in here and I wait for diggelz to rear into here but yet again this isnt a ban request thread
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 07:53:26 pm
woah woah
nobody thinks he is so good he uses an aimbot

:/
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 13, 2012, 08:11:58 pm
Anyone who could make an effective auto-aimer that would actually work in this game shouldn't be wasting time making hacks for games. Archery isn't like FPS's where the bullet goes from gun to head instantaneously. You have an arc to the flight that varies based upon the bow and your wpf. Players move at varying speeds and arrows actually take time to travel to that point.

So it would have to be able to find an enemy, gauge its vector, adjust for the arrow flight arc, adjust for the arrow speed, and then let loose.

Maybe they could make one, but I bet the first update that tweaks those stats in the game will break it. (and I bet players will still be better)

NA Admins wurst Admins!

A pretty simple one would just show you the trajectory, you'd still have to lead people like you do now.  Not to mention that not every target is always moving. 
Title: Re: NA admins
Post by: Aderyn on July 13, 2012, 08:14:48 pm
NA Admins wurst Admins!