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Title: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 07, 2012, 10:57:46 pm
please please please please please please please please please please please please make the overly dark helms (topfhelm, rounded topfhelm, gotland) lighter so they match the colour of all the other helms[see screen]
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sorry for bad quality pic
c'mon guys it would take no longer than a few mins, you only have to change 1 texture! nobody really wears these because they just look silly right now but it would be so quick and easy to change and make them look great, can you change them pleeeeeeeeeeeease?  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

my lightened version
http://speedy.sh/3nxKQ/greathelms2.dds
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: polkafranzi on May 07, 2012, 11:06:04 pm
+1

The odd user usually is a very historically INACCURATE fucking Kuyak wearing Danish lolsworder/GLB eastern european, so please change these central european helmets to a lighter steel to match the armours they belong with.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 08, 2012, 09:09:43 am
I like the dirty helmets.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: polkafranzi on May 08, 2012, 12:25:55 pm
I like the dirty helmets.

Pretty sure nobody on earth cares what you like.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 08, 2012, 12:28:10 pm
:O

So rude!
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: dodnet on May 08, 2012, 12:29:10 pm
They look great, but sadly they don't really match any of the armors. They are too dark really.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 08, 2012, 12:56:52 pm
Pretty sure nobody on earth cares what you like.
I care...
...pretty sure nobody in ze universe cares what color helmets you like. :!:
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: polkafranzi on May 08, 2012, 01:14:05 pm
I care...
...pretty sure nobody in ze universe cares what color helmets you like. :!:

Oh look!  A wild troll appeared.  The townspeople promptly continued to not give one single fuck what he had to say.

...to be continued
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 08, 2012, 01:17:54 pm
Oh look!  A wild troll appeared.  The townspeople promptly continued to not give one single fuck what he had to say.

...to be continued
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Oh look!  A wild troll appeared.  The townspeople promptly continued to not give one single fuck what he had to say.

...to be continued
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: polkafranzi on May 08, 2012, 01:25:52 pm


My point proven, yours not taken  :wink: 
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 08, 2012, 01:28:16 pm
My point proven, yours not taken  :wink:
Look, I'm just trying to post as much as possible so more people see my sig, so mind your own business.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: polkafranzi on May 08, 2012, 01:32:11 pm
Look, I'm just trying to post as much as possible so more people see my sig, so mind your own business.

You never were a good engineer, but oh well, I also want to see siege equipment saved.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 08, 2012, 01:37:03 pm
You never were a good engineer, but oh well, I also want to see siege equipment saved.
The fuck you know about that? I don't think you've ever seen me 'cept maybe once when I was making weapon racks 'n' throwing lances with some guy.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: polkafranzi on May 08, 2012, 01:41:37 pm
The fuck you know about that? I don't think you've ever seen me 'cept maybe once when I was making weapon racks 'n' throwing lances with some guy.

Yes, exactly that time lol.
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 08, 2012, 01:43:57 pm
Yes, exactly that time lol.
That time was not representive of my mad engineer skillz.
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 08, 2012, 06:23:46 pm
added poll
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zagibu on May 08, 2012, 08:57:13 pm
Or you could open the textures in paint.net and make them lighter yourself. I know, crazy idea, right?
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 08, 2012, 09:04:02 pm
Or you could open the textures in paint.net and make them lighter yourself. I know, crazy idea, right?

been there, done that, but it will still remain the same for everyone else and everybody else still won't be wearing these in game because they just look wrong with every armor that a historical knight would wear with these helmets! I am not the only person who finds this annoying, in fact you have also commented on their darkness  :wink:
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Surely if enough people see this as a problem it is better to just change them rather then having lots of people editing the textures themselves, I'm just trying to help and to see if others feel the same so we can get this finally changed for the better!  :wink:
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Narestel on May 08, 2012, 11:28:48 pm
Here you are, a +1!  :wink:
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 08, 2012, 11:36:46 pm
Here you are, a +1!  :wink:

thanks mate, and thanks to everyone else who has voted too
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zagibu on May 09, 2012, 09:50:54 pm
If you have already done that, why don't you upload these improved textures to mbrepository and let others use them, as well?
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: polkafranzi on May 09, 2012, 10:00:35 pm
If you have already done that, why don't you upload these improved textures to mbrepository and let others use them, as well?

I think the poll is speaking for itself and should be something the devs implement in the next patch.

Saying that, nearly 100 +1 votes on Lederhose and still no add...so i may be mistaken.

I think someone said it in a dif thread: priority number one for devs - rain and dark 75% of time.
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 09, 2012, 10:18:56 pm
If you have already done that, why don't you upload these improved textures to mbrepository and let others use them, as well?

I did upload them back in february, http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25862.msg375136.html#msg375136, although the file has now been removed. whilst a few people probably used them, in my opinion its not really a viable solution, if the high majority (91%+ so far) of people would prefer these lighter wouldn't you agree it would be easier for everybody if they would just be made lighter?
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: polkafranzi on May 09, 2012, 10:28:16 pm
Would be nice to get an official reply on this but that rarely happens, and i'm not talking about some fail cmp troll reply.

So devs, how low are your balls?
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Miwiw on May 09, 2012, 10:33:34 pm
+1

I like the helmets, but would have never used them due to dark colour.
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zagibu on May 09, 2012, 11:24:24 pm
I did upload them back in february, http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25862.msg375136.html#msg375136, although the file has now been removed. whilst a few people probably used them, in my opinion its not really a viable solution, if the high majority (91%+ so far) of people would prefer these lighter wouldn't you agree it would be easier for everybody if they would just be made lighter?

But how will they include your textures in the mod if they can't get them anywhere?
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: polkafranzi on May 09, 2012, 11:38:32 pm
But how will they include your textures in the mod if they can't get them anywhere?

They arrange it with him by PM or something.

pretty simple logic tbh brah.
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on May 09, 2012, 11:42:35 pm
M&B nexus is a good place to host m&b related stuff
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 10, 2012, 01:07:17 am
M&B nexus is a good place to host m&b related stuff

thanks dude, but that shits well long, you have to fill in like a million fields before uploading a file

But how will they include your textures in the mod if they can't get them anywhere?

ok heres my version

http://speedy.sh/3nxKQ/greathelms2.dds

I'm no photoshop god so if anyone has a better version please upload it for us  :D

c'mon devs put this in, pretty please!!
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zagibu on May 10, 2012, 08:48:39 am
Now you have my full support (whatever that's worth).
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 10, 2012, 09:30:58 am
I oppose this fully. The dark helmets are the only helmets that look totally badass coupled with plate armor. In fact, they are my favourite helmets, because they are big and dark and make me look badass when I wear them waving my morningstar with 36 strength. They also work with the darker mail armours.

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Don't be racist, support dark plate users 2012! I am the 10,7%! (at the time of this posting)

Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 10, 2012, 09:54:51 am
I oppose this fully. The dark helmets are the only helmets that look totally badass coupled with plate armor.

In fact, they are my favourite helmets, because they are big and dark and make me look badass when I wear them waving my morningstar with 36 strength.

Add lighter ones, but don't remove these. Also, those who you korgoth's mail retextures also like these.

Hey thats not a very ninja look!  :wink:

Yea I know not everyone will agree and some people will prefer them dark, after all we don't all share the same taste. however strictly  from a historical point of view these helms would be mainy used with chainmail armours like surcoat over mail or the heraldic armours so in my opinion I think they should be made to match those armours colourwise and I think if it is a majority vote to lighten them then you have to go with what the people say!

Although saying that, the devs never implement anything I ever suggest  :cry: *cough lederhosen cough* so I wouldn't worry about it too much yet Khorin  :lol:
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 10, 2012, 09:59:37 am
There are a lot of dark armours. Don't take away the dark helmets is all I'm saying. At least keep one of them(whichever is the biggest) as dark. My bucket helmet shan't ever be polished.

My strength character already lost his black armour. How much more must he suffer?

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Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 10, 2012, 10:20:36 am
There are a lot of dark armours. Don't take away the dark helmets is all I'm saying. At least keep one of them(whichever is the biggest) as dark. My bucket helmet shan't ever be polished.
My strength character already lost his black armour. How much more must he suffer?

Don't be fooled by this heartfelt sob story people, vote yes to lighten these great Helmets NOW!!!!  :twisted:
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 10, 2012, 10:45:39 am
Poll question is biased and misrepresents the facts.
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: polkafranzi on May 10, 2012, 12:15:58 pm
How about this:

Keep them dark but under one condition, if they stay dark then it's at the expense of ALL weaboo related things, which have totally no place in this mod, especially the Katana.

Then you can enjoy your strength build 24/7 and I never have to hate on weaboos again.

Sounds like a double win to me  :lol:
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 10, 2012, 12:46:56 pm
Hah. Never. Even without personal stake in this question I'd still defend it with my teeth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4)

Removing stuff without cause is always a stupid idea. If you want to add brighter helmets, then do so, but don't remove the darker ones. The appeal in this mod is not strict historical accuracy. It's the character customization. You can create whatever it is you want to play be it turkish peasant, samurai, german comedian, french chef or mongol spearman.
 
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Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Muki on May 10, 2012, 12:56:08 pm

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:) always good to see the ninja clan will stay in C-rpg
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: polkafranzi on May 10, 2012, 01:07:30 pm
Hah. Never. Even without personal stake in this question I'd still defend it with my teeth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4)

Removing stuff without cause is always a stupid idea. If you want to add brighter helmets, then do so, but don't remove the darker ones. The appeal in this mod is not strict historical accuracy. It's the character customization. You can create whatever it is you want to play be it turkish peasant, samurai, german comedian, french chef or mongol spearman.
 
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I agree totally that they should add more versions of the same thing with just different colourings etc, i mean hell been waiting on a yellow surcoat over mail a long time now.  So yes, rusty effect helmets and brand new from the blacksmith would be a nice touch.

Dan you could add that to your poll  :wink:
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: Rainbow on May 10, 2012, 10:00:36 pm
We need white armors!
Title: Re: a very simple request!
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 13, 2012, 01:03:22 am
bump
Title: Re: a very simple request
Post by: Dalfador on May 13, 2012, 03:51:57 am
I like the dirty helmets.

And the dirty helmets like you big boi
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: Momo on May 14, 2012, 08:39:02 pm
Yes to this. You rarely see these because they are too dark and they are not matching most of the armors.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 03:56:45 am
Some of the darker heavy armors look good with these helms. Rus lamellar, black coat of plates, pronoia armor, clibanarius armor match them color-wise. Not a historically accurate set of armor, but whatever.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: Kafein on May 15, 2012, 04:31:03 am
KEEP THEM AS THEY ARE !


They are the only good looking black/dark helmets :(

We got bazillions of generic gray metallic helmets already.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: polkafranzi on May 15, 2012, 12:02:56 pm
Some of the darker heavy armors look good with these helms. Rus lamellar, black coat of plates, pronoia armor, clibanarius armor match them color-wise. Not a historically accurate set of armor, but whatever.

No.

KEEP THEM AS THEY ARE !


They are the only good looking black/dark helmets :(

We got bazillions of generic gray metallic helmets already.

No.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 15, 2012, 07:40:00 pm
Some of the darker heavy armors look good with these helms. Rus lamellar, black coat of plates, pronoia armor, clibanarius armor match them color-wise. Not a historically accurate set of armor, but whatever.

Yes.

KEEP THEM AS THEY ARE !


They are the only good looking black/dark helmets :(

We got bazillions of generic gray metallic helmets already.

Yes.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: Momo on May 15, 2012, 10:53:39 pm
You know what? Make a bright version and add it plus leave the dark ones in. Everyone's happy.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 11:13:33 pm
Add a dark set of plate armor that doesn't come with stripes and clown pants. I wanna see a dude in gilded shining armor fight a black knight decked out in pitch-dark steel!
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: Kafein on May 16, 2012, 01:28:52 am
You know what? Make a bright version and add it plus leave the dark ones in. Everyone's happy.

This obviously.

Add a dark set of plate armor that doesn't come with stripes and clown pants. I wanna see a dude in gilded shining armor fight a black knight decked out in pitch-dark steel!

This too. Actually the black armor and striped black armor textures aren't exactly the same but both have stripes.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: v/onMega on May 16, 2012, 07:24:14 am
Regardless of the color, pretty much all of these new helmets are out of proportion (not the byzantinum)

So, do wot yoz like. Will not use em in 1000 years...



Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 16, 2012, 08:24:38 am
Regardless of the color, pretty much all of these new helmets are out of proportion (not the byzantinum)
So, do wot yoz like. Will not use em in 1000 years...

This is true, I don't know why they haven't added the 2 other great helms by dejawolf as I suggested before, sizewise they fit perfectly and look much better!

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,29118.msg426515.html#msg426515

Screens Showing differences between the first Two Helms and the two that are already In game, as you can see sizewise they fit a lot better.
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These Nice Dejawolf Helms have been sitting in the Resource Folder for months, why do they never get added?
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: dodnet on May 16, 2012, 12:49:30 pm
You know what? Make a bright version and add it plus leave the dark ones in. Everyone's happy.
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 18, 2012, 05:45:31 pm
bump

because I still see nobody wearing these!
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: zottlmarsch on June 03, 2012, 10:33:55 pm
bump
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: engurrand on June 04, 2012, 12:02:31 am
pretty sure frank is handy with the ladies IRL
Title: Re: (a very simple request) Please lighten the dark Great Helms?
Post by: Auphilia on June 04, 2012, 12:13:42 am
I'd rather have some of the plate armors darkened to match the helms. We can't all be knights in shining armor.