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Title: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on March 25, 2012, 12:13:01 am
~ Arked-Draggon Alternate Medieval Clan Banner Pack ~

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Current Version: 2.8
Download Links:

Link 1: M&B Nexus Mods (http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3654)
Link 2: Google Drive (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2Q7x8TrfvBuQVFJdVU2bXhzTFU)

Reason for the new thread...
Kalam, Arked, Overdriven, & Niemand have done excellent work with these Banner Packs:
Kalam/Overdriven's Official Clan Banner Pack (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24614.msg355384.html#msg355384)
Arked's Alternate Clan Banner Pack (http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3654)

Overdriven has recently taken over Kalam's work and has also made changes to the "script.txt" which allows the backgrounds to match the primary banner colors.  This translates onto the backs of your Heraldic armors and makes them match your banner in-game.

I've done the same with Arked's Pack.  126 banners fully converted to matching Heraldic backs.
To see and use these changes, simply download the newest version of the scripts.txt, and replace the one that's already in your Mount&Blade Warband\Modules\cRPG folder.  The .zip also includes the latest banners.  Just drop them into your Textures folder and replace the ones already there.  The 'Read Me.txt' in the .zip provides step by step instructions if you're not familiar with it.  Very simple and easy to do for anyone.

Used Banner Slots
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Reserved Banner Slots
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(The above lists are still being updated)

Heraldic Back Examples
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Any other clans would like to add their banner to this pack, feel free to place your requests in this thread.
One key factor of this pack is that the banner slots in this pack also coincide with the Kalam/Overdriven Banner Pack so that no matter which pack people have installed, they will see your clan/faction's banner correctly.

Rules:  Pretty much the same as Arked laid out in his original post here (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3634.msg65755.html#msg65755).  Although I would like to add a couple rules of thumb to go by for getting banners accepted...
*Think Medieval*
Probably 2-3 basic colors max.  Very simple graphics.  Nothing 3D or shadowed, no bright colors (reduce saturation by 10-25% and/or maybe even layer transparency), no super sharp edges, outlines, etc.  Just picture what little they had to work with back then for embroidery on cloth and paint on shields.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Overdriven on March 25, 2012, 02:51:06 pm
O prior warning. Every time a new patch comes out that edits the scripts.txt. You have to copy and paste the colour codes from the old into the new. You can't copy the entire line for some reason as the backgrounds just end up black. It takes about 15mins so not to long  :)

Good luck  :D
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 25, 2012, 03:23:32 pm
What did you use for the copyage?
Maybe Notepad++ would help?
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Overdriven on March 25, 2012, 03:49:19 pm
That's what I used  :P
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 25, 2012, 05:30:19 pm
Okay. Strange. Sad. Hoped I could help. :D
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Digglez on March 25, 2012, 07:10:46 pm
Glad you are taking up this cause, hope you will keep it focused and high standards.

Might want to add...
No super bright colors.  Reducing saturation by 10-25% makes'em look like they would have actually been used, accomplished with natural world pigments.

Doubt you want to be this accurate but fairly sure orange was not able to be made until Europeans came to Americas
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 25, 2012, 07:45:14 pm
O prior warning. Every time a new patch comes out that edits the scripts.txt. You have to copy and paste the colour codes from the old into the new. You can't copy the entire line for some reason as the backgrounds just end up black. It takes about 15mins so not to long  :)

Good luck  :D

Oh wow, thanks for the head's up.  So if I go in old one and highlight/copy just the sections I edited for the backgrounds and paste that into the newly patched script, that should do the trick?

Glad you are taking up this cause, hope you will keep it focused and high standards.

Might want to add...
No super bright colors.  Reducing saturation by 10-25% makes'em look like they would have actually been used, accomplished with natural world pigments.

Doubt you want to be this accurate but fairly sure orange was not able to be made until Europeans came to Americas

Good points Digglez.  I'll add the bright colors & saturation tips.
Pretty sure you're right about the orange, but yeah I probably won't go that extreme.  I'll end up opening a huge can of worms having to research what colors were available when and all that jazz.  Could get crazy and way more time consuming - heh.

Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Teeth on March 25, 2012, 07:58:46 pm
I rather use the latest 9 month old version from Arked than the other bannerpack, so needless to say I am really glad someone is continuing something along those lines!
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Overdriven on March 25, 2012, 09:09:25 pm
Oh wow, thanks for the head's up.  So if I go in old one and highlight/copy just the sections I edited for the backgrounds and paste that into the newly patched script, that should do the trick?

Yeah that's right :)
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 25, 2012, 09:13:22 pm
I rather use the latest 9 month old version from Arked than the other bannerpack, so needless to say I am really glad someone is continuing something along those lines!
Well Overdriven's doing a great service to all the clans by allowing their banners, no matter how far out some of them may be, into the Official Clan Banner Pack.  It's just that some of the banners are of course, not very well done, or are just way too modern looking.
Even some of the banners in this pack are pretty borderline.  Once I get done with the script work I might go in and start de-saturating some of the brighter, harsher lined banners.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 25, 2012, 09:17:12 pm
Yeah that's right :)

Awesome!  That shouldn't be any problem then.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 26, 2012, 12:22:59 am
Okay, newest version here (http://snowhawkclan.org/misc/Arked-Draggon_Matching_Heraldics.zip).

Banners for std_banners_a.dds, std_banners_b, std_banners_g.dds complete.  Any clans with banners from A-1-1 to A-3-7, B-1-1 to B-3-7, G-1-1 to G-3-7 now have matching Heraldic backs. 63 matching banners total so far.

Here are just a few sample screens for banners that I know are used by some clans (click thumbnail for larger view):

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Clans with matching Heraldic backs so far:
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Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 26, 2012, 01:31:04 pm
Yäy! We're one of the examples! :D

Now I feel special. :D


What I wish would be a banner that you can put there to be the back of the heraldic mail. I could do some pretty sick stuff with it. But I know that is not possible. :(
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 27, 2012, 02:26:19 am
What I wish would be a banner that you can put there to be the back of the heraldic mail. I could do some pretty sick stuff with it. But I know that is not possible. :(

Lol yeah, could make your own 'bitch tats.' =P


Okay, 63 banners now done. _a.dds, _b.dds, and _g.dds.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Digglez on March 27, 2012, 07:10:47 pm
mods sticky plz~
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Casimir on March 27, 2012, 10:05:37 pm
If there's a new 'balanced' banner pack coming out please update Templar to use this:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Overdriven on March 27, 2012, 10:23:08 pm
What I wish would be a banner that you can put there to be the back of the heraldic mail. I could do some pretty sick stuff with it. But I know that is not possible. :(

That would be cool! But alas not possible  :(

Nice to see this coming along Draggon  :D
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 28, 2012, 01:42:17 am
Lol yeah, could make your own 'bitch tats.' =P
"Arschgeweih"
"Schlampenstempel"
... yupp, such stuff.

But I prefer Stuff on the Shoulders. I could put the Dragons that are on the latest official CotgS-Banner there. And yes, we already have a new, inofficial version. But I'll take some time with it and test it and stuff. The one right now is fine. - Also we got enough other stuff going on... like our server and our german clanthread and lots of other stuff. :D
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 28, 2012, 01:50:25 am
If there's a new 'balanced' banner pack coming out please update Templar to use this:

(click to show/hide)

Kewl deal, will do.  What slot do you currently have in Kalam/Overdriven's pack?  I'll match that slot here in Arked's pack.

Nice to see this coming along Draggon  :D

Hell yeah dude, wouldn't have been possible without you - thx for the help and the inspiration.  Wish I'd known how to do this a long time ago, heh.

And yes, we already have a new, inofficial version. But I'll take some time with it and test it and stuff. The one right now is fine.

I like the banner you have in Arked's, you can see the stitching where someone sewed the black and green together.  Excellent touch man.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Casimir on March 28, 2012, 02:24:11 am
E-2-7
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 28, 2012, 02:11:08 pm
E-2-7

Roger, will be doing the c.dds next, but I'll include your "E" slot in the next update as well.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 28, 2012, 05:09:40 pm
I like the banner you have in Arked's, you can see the stitching where someone sewed the black and green together.  Excellent touch man.
Yah, thats not the recent anymore but i found it really cool, too. Should be version 3-3 of our banner. We reached version 4-4 already. :D

The one were using in Overdrivens Pack is this:
(click to show/hide)
(No need to use it here, except you want to. Maybe I will try a new ragged version again...)

Will reupload the ragged version after the reboot. One of my HDD seems to break die. -.-
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 29, 2012, 02:48:04 am
Sorry for the double-post but its an application for another clan:

In the name of the Order of the Griffin, I apply with a banner for the Slot C-2-4.
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Clanthread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24064.0.html

(Nope, I personally am not a member of that clan, I just made the banner. ;) )
Thanks!
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: bredeus on March 29, 2012, 01:32:19 pm
Finally. Can't w8 for the next update :)
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 29, 2012, 02:21:16 pm
i always liked arked's banner pack above all the others
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 29, 2012, 07:52:06 pm
Sorry for the double-post but its an application for another clan:
Thanks!

Nah np Niemand.  TBH too, the banner you submitted for them in Overdriven's pack would work here as well I think, if they prefer that banner.  But unless I hear different I'll include this one in slot C-2-4 for the next update.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Kansuke on March 29, 2012, 09:07:50 pm
Awesome thanks for the update !
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 29, 2012, 09:43:51 pm
Draggon I made different versions. Their leader wants the white banner and some members want the other banner. And since there are two packs now its easy for them. :D
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 29, 2012, 09:47:33 pm
Kewl, I kinda wondered if that may have been the case.  No problem then.
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 29, 2012, 10:07:01 pm
Its the same with the templars banner. ;)
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 31, 2012, 05:07:00 am
Newest update... Version 2.04 (http://snowhawkclan.org/misc/Arked-Draggon_Matching_Heraldics.zip)
This one includes a.dds, b.dds, c.dds, & g.dds all with matching Heraldic backs.  84 banners total.
Order of the Griffin's banner added to C-2-4 with matching back.
The Knights Templar banner was actually already in slot E-2-7, but I matched the back just in case.
Also edited a few of the banners that weren't quite filling the entire slot, a little of the old banner was showing thru at the top.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Ujin on March 31, 2012, 11:54:59 am
Wait you're actually supporting this pack ? Awesome ! Needs to be stickied :D.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Arked on March 31, 2012, 04:10:35 pm
What is this i dont even.. :D

Well, nice to see someone cares :) I have unlocked my old bannerpack topic for you, but i dont think there is any way u can edit 1st post.
Also, u dont have to use my name, its u who puts effort in this, so make it Draggon bannerpack? ;p

Good Luck!
Title: Re: [Ver.2.0] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Teeth on March 31, 2012, 04:22:30 pm
If there's a new 'balanced' banner pack coming out please update Templar to use this:

(click to show/hide)
Yay! I installed Kalam's bannerpack ,saw the abomination of a templar cross that was in there. Immediately went with the 9 month old Arked version again. Seriously Casimir, how did the Kalam version ever make it?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on March 31, 2012, 05:44:01 pm
I have unlocked my old bannerpack topic for you, but i dont think there is any way u can edit 1st post.
Also, u dont have to use my name, its u who puts effort in this, so make it Draggon bannerpack? ;p

Damn, you're right, I didn't think about the first post thing. Well shit.  Thought about necroing the old thread to create a link to this one, but with 2 active Alternative Clan Bannerpack threads it could be slightly confusing.  Guess best thing is to just continue here then.  Thx for the head's up on that though, Arked.

But also you started this project so I'm keeping your name in it. =P  Plus everyone's way more familiar with the "Arked" Bannerpack.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Casimir on March 31, 2012, 05:56:12 pm
Yay! I installed Kalam's bannerpack ,saw the abomination of a templar cross that was in there. Immediately went with the 9 month old Arked version again. Seriously Casimir, how did the Kalam version ever make it?

Democracy is a terrible things sometimes.

The Knights Templar banner was actually already in slot E-2-7, but I matched the back just in case.

The version in Arked old one and the current banner pack is different to the one I posted here.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on March 31, 2012, 11:05:35 pm
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 I have a feeling that there is something wrong with the shadows of the cross. I will check that and, if needed, rework it. Maybe I am wrong.
Will do that tomorrow, need to sleep a bit now.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Entaro on April 01, 2012, 01:42:53 am
/bump, somebody sticky this!

Draggon, you ought to remove the MB repository link for the old Arked pack in the OP, kind of confusing.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Digglez on April 01, 2012, 02:08:25 am
At some point are you going to show slots taken, clan name & thumbnail of banner like the other posts did?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on April 01, 2012, 05:09:33 am
The version in Arked old one and the current banner pack is different to the one I posted here.

Damn, okay.  My mistake then.  Sure looked alot like the one here in slot E-2-7.  But if there are some minor differences I'll be happy to re-do it.
(click to show/hide)

Draggon, you ought to remove the MB repository link for the old Arked pack in the OP, kind of confusing.

Good point dude, consider it done.

At some point are you going to show slots taken, clan name & thumbnail of banner like the other posts did?

Yep, that's next on the agenda once the matching Heraldics are all done.  Still have two .dds files to complete.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on April 01, 2012, 09:31:05 am
At some point are you going to show slots taken, clan name & thumbnail of banner like the other posts did?
About that I have an Idea. But I need somebody who is able to code php/database-stuff.

It would be a website where all 3andahalf bannerpacks are shown. (Native, Kalams/Overdrivens, Arkeds, Mine)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Overdriven on April 05, 2012, 11:00:53 pm
About that I have an Idea. But I need somebody who is able to code php/database-stuff.

It would be a website where all 3andahalf bannerpacks are shown. (Native, Kalams/Overdrivens, Arkeds, Mine)

Sounds interesting  :)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on April 06, 2012, 04:55:50 am
It is. ;)

But no one is willing to code a bit of php for that. :(

I even have some webspace and database for it. I just have no idea how to do such things. I will try to get a book about php+MySQL but I cant guarantee that I am able to even start learning it in the next 6 month.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on April 06, 2012, 07:16:48 am
But I like your avatar, and that's all that matters.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.04] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Niemand on April 06, 2012, 09:51:33 pm
Mine? Its there to troll a bit. Somebody was raging a bit because we built a big siegetower in a town-siege... :D
Title: Re: [Ver 2.5] Arked's Alternative Clan Banner Pack (w/ matching Heraldic backs)
Post by: Draggon on April 08, 2012, 09:43:06 pm
Ver 2.5 Download (http://snowhawkclan.org/misc/Arked-Draggon_Matching_Heraldics.zip)

Update includes:
- Fully updated 'scripts.txt' (all 126 banners with matching Heraldic backs).
- Fixed some issues with a few banners not being sized correctly causing weird graphics on the shoulders of heraldics.
- All .dds files a thru g. (f is not included since it's not used)
- Also includes the latest new banner additions to the pack.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.5] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Digglez on April 09, 2012, 12:58:55 am
under the 'used' slots, Norse Horde is in there in the E file (we're the blue background with yellow horns inside white hexagon), but not sure how you are # the slots.  Please add us to list when you get some free time.  Appreciate the work
Title: Re: [Ver 2.5] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 09, 2012, 06:13:10 am
Kewl deal man.  Yeah the step I'm actually working on now is going thru the slots and comparing them with Kalam/Arked's pack and making sure they match, and then updating the 'Used' and 'Reserved' lists as I go.  But definitely thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 10, 2012, 02:31:00 am
Version 2.6 Download (http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3619)

- Added Knights of Santiago (KoS), slot A-2-3
- Added Kill Cult (KC), slot A-2-4
- Moved Hounds of Chulainn (HoC) to the proper slot, from B-1-6 to A-3-3
- Removed Crusaders of Acre (of_Acre), replaced with Art of War (AoW), slot A-3-4
- Added Red Lotus (RL), slot B-2-4
- Moved Ordre des Chevaliers Francs (OCF) to the proper slot, from B-2-7 to A-3-7
- Added the Baltimores (Balde), slot B-3-3
- Removed a few of the 'less attractive' vanilla banners in Open & Reserved slots and replaced with better ones.

- Rematched Heraldic backs to all newly added and moved banners.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on April 10, 2012, 02:34:19 am
If I didn't have to use my banner pack I would use this  :P

Nice idea on the showing of the slots on the first page btw. I might have to steal that  :D
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 10, 2012, 02:36:15 am
 :D  Look what you started.  Heh.
But hell yeah, I've stolen enough of your ideas, payback time!
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on April 10, 2012, 02:38:02 am
Must have taken a while! Maybe when I've finished my dissertation  :)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 10, 2012, 02:42:46 am
The time consuming thing is researching all the clans, jeez.  And making sure they have an updated slot going in your pack, seems though there are a couple that have banners in Arked's but not yours.  Only like two so far I think though.

But if you want the .psd with all the lairs for the "A-1-7" to "A-3-7", etc. lemme know.  It's definitely alot faster just to duplicate all the lairs instead of redoing them for each .dds, lol.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on April 10, 2012, 06:09:41 am
Dude. I respect you and anything. But. Seriously. Go into that file and make the g of CotgS a lowercase one. I know you did it out of respect for the Green colour, but in our clantag it has to be a small g.

Yah, I am serious here. :O
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on April 10, 2012, 06:51:28 pm
New banner which should be ok in your pack:

Joannites

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Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 11, 2012, 01:03:24 am
Ah, another Maltese Cross.  I'll put that baby in since the other one is white on black.
As far as I know, the Joannites were Hospitallers, is this for another branch of our cRPG Hospitallers?  Or another clan altogether.

Oh and Niemand, I will fix your small "g" for  ya. =P
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on April 11, 2012, 01:37:27 am
I believe it is a new clan altogether. I don't know the details as they got hold of me on steam  :)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on April 11, 2012, 08:22:46 am
Oh and Niemand, I will fix your small "g" for  ya. =P
Domo arigato, Draggon-Sensei.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 12, 2012, 01:07:35 am
New banner which should be ok in your pack:

Joannites

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Btw Overdriven, what slot did you use for this one?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on April 12, 2012, 01:17:12 am
A free one!


badumm-tss!
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 12, 2012, 06:21:33 am
Wololol.  8-)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on April 12, 2012, 06:38:43 am
Btw Overdriven, what slot did you use for this one?

I haven't yet placed it. I'll probably use D-1-4 as that's the first free slot I could glance at after seeing this  :P
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 14, 2012, 07:18:06 am
^Sweet, that'll work perfect; still have a bit of work to do on the d.dds file so that'll fit right in.


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Version 2.7 (http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3619)
- Added Men at Arms (Armsmen), slot C-1-4
- Removed Army of Seven (AO7) & added The Company (Company), slot C-1-6
- Added Kingdom of Wessex (Wessex), slot C-2-7
- Moved Knight's Uniate of The Templars (KUTT) to the correct slot, from C-2-6 to C-1-3
- Added The Eurabian Sultanate (Eurabia), slot C-3-2
- Removed Kingdom of Jerusalem (KOJ)
- Weeded out a few more crappy, unused vanilla banners

- Rematched all Heraldic backs for moved & added banners
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Largg on April 14, 2012, 07:47:04 am
I approve this banner pack, been using it for a while. Battlefield looks much nicer.

btw. why did you put the new version to mbnexus? That page requires a registration to download which is just idiotic if you ask me. Even bugmenot.com didn't have registrations to that site so it requires some effort to get it downloaded.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: dodnet on April 14, 2012, 12:07:59 pm
Thanks for continuing the work on this banner pack. I still use a very old version of it and will try this one now.  :D

Quote
btw. why did you put the new version to mbnexus? That page requires a registration to download which is just idiotic if you ask me. Even bugmenot.com didn't have registrations to that site so it requires some effort to get it downloaded.

OK - my login for TES nexus works too. But it would be a great idea if you could have an additional hoster where one can download without registering.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: dodnet on April 14, 2012, 12:39:40 pm
Ok, looks nice, esp the matching back colors are great. Thanks!

Can this thread be pinned?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Molly on April 14, 2012, 12:40:25 pm
After seeing this cartoon-semen in the Overdriven-Pack I've switched to this one too...  :?

Aunt Edit says...

unfortunately the Bandit-Banner isnt in or in a wrong slot. Still that yellow native-sun. Guess I have to keep using the Overdriven one for now.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: dodnet on April 14, 2012, 02:51:49 pm
unfortunately the Bandit-Banner isnt in or in a wrong slot. Still that yellow native-sun. Guess I have to keep using the Overdriven one for now.

Seems to be in wrong spot:
G-3-3: The Bandits (normal one)
vs
G-1-5: The Bandits (this one)

I compared the spots with the other pack, here are all differences (without banners NOT in this pack):
A-3-5: Armata Branceleone (AB) (not in other pack)
B-2-6: Cavalieres (Cavalieres) (different spot, E-3-6 in other pack)
B-3-4: Varangians (VRN) (not in other pack)
C-2-5: The Order of the Rose (Rose) (not in other pack)
D-1-3: The Risen (Risen) (not in other pack)
D-2-7: Camel Screamers (not in other pack)
D-3-2: Túatha na nGael (not in other pack)
E-3-1: The Kingdom of England (not in other pack)
E-3-7: The Kingsguard (not in other pack)
G-1-5: The Bandits (different spot, G-3-3 in other pack)
G-2-1: Phoenix Company (not in other pack)
G-2-4: The Bridgeburners (not in other pack)
G-3-6: The Order of the Lance (not in other pack)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on April 14, 2012, 03:32:01 pm
Risen is gone.
CamelScreamers are gone.
Tuatha na nGael are inactive/gone.
ENG? dunno... || asked their Leader, theyre gone.
PhoenixCompany... best banner evar. Gone.
BridgeBurners - afaik gone.
OotL are gone. They still owe me a CPU-Fan since I won their fucking signature-contest. -.-
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Molly on April 14, 2012, 03:59:10 pm
How about you switch the Bandit Banner to the same slot as Overdrive?
Would make me happy at least  :wink:
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 14, 2012, 07:01:09 pm
Awesome.  Appreciate all the info guys.  That's actually what I'm in the process of doing, it's just taking awhile since I'm horribly busy with the jobby-job right now.  But yes, as I get free time I'm going through and re-arranging/removing/adding banners to coincide exactly with the Kalam/Overdriven pack.

Unfortunately though, or fortunately, (the perspective will vary for everyone I'm sure) not all banners for all clans/factions in Overdriven's pack will make it to this one unless a grittier, more medieval version is submitted.

For instance, The Bandits.  Love your banner.  It's well-done, not overly modern.  However there are just a couple things that will need to change to put it in here.  It has some kind of a glowing yellow outline - will need to get rid of that.  And the skull and sword need to be simplified much more.  They're good, just a little too detailed and sharp-lined.  Needs to be more 'silhouette-like'.  I can do the changes if you want, and if you don't like it, we don't have to implement them.  Or your resident artist can render his version, either way.

One thing I'm also in the process of doing is going thru and QC-ing some banners that were already in the pack.  Probably won't remove them, but try to get clans/factions to help submit a better one.  Wolper comes to mind.  Needs to be meaner, less cartoonish.  It's a good silhouette, just needs... something.  Need to FEAR the Wolper, not laugh when I see it. =P

Also, DoDnet, great idea on the additional download link.  I'll see if Mendrak will mind and maybe she can start hosting the file on snowhawk.org again too.  I like the idea of having it on M&B Nexus though as well for several reasons.  There are great tools there for anyone uploading mod files.  You can post images with it, descriptions, etc, etc.  Also, it's sortof a free advertisement for cRPG.  Anyone that plays M&B can see the file and might just be attracted to cRPG by seeing that clans can have their very own custom banners, as opposed to Native where you're just stuck with the vanilla versions.

Definitely appreciate ya'lls time and feedback.  Good shit.  Good times.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on April 15, 2012, 12:17:36 am
If wanted I maybe can host the pack on my webspace, too. ;)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Molly on April 15, 2012, 12:24:11 am
Well... I cant really decide it. That would be Gnjus job I guess.
...but if you like you could give it a try. I certainly would appreciate it. I gonna ask around tho if we have something like an "artist".
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Dooz on April 22, 2012, 12:11:18 am
Really been enjoying this pack, thanks!
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 22, 2012, 02:35:47 am
If wanted I maybe can host the pack on my webspace, too. ;)

Hot damn, thanks for the offer there Niemand. =)  Ended up being able to get Mendrak to provide the secondary host, and she's gonna write me in to where I won't have to ask her every time - will be able to upload myself.  Mighty kind of her.

Well... I cant really decide it. That would be Gnjus job I guess.
...but if you like you could give it a try. I certainly would appreciate it. I gonna ask around tho if we have something like an "artist".

No problem man.  Will see what I can come up with, if you guys don't like it we don't have to use it.

Really been enjoying this pack, thanks!

Hey you bet dude.  Next release will be even better.  Sorry it's taking so long though, been ridicurousry busy with work.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Casimir on April 24, 2012, 04:17:32 pm
Thread should be stickied.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on April 27, 2012, 12:03:36 pm
Congrats  :)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Elindor on April 27, 2012, 08:48:19 pm
Draggon, if you think it'll do, you wanna add ours to this pack? (if there's room)

Knights of the Honor Guard  (D-1-5 in Overdriven's)
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Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 28, 2012, 12:50:02 am
Thread should be stickied.
Congrats  :)

Thanks dudes, and kujos to the admin that stickified it.  8-)

Draggon, if you think it'll do, you wanna add ours to this pack? (if there's room)

Knights of the Honor Guard  (D-1-5 in Overdriven's)

I'm actually working on D right now, so that'll work perfect.  You mind if I fade, scrape it up a bit?  Medievalize it?  Looks a tad 'factory produced' atm.  Other than that it's a good banner.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Elindor on April 28, 2012, 03:08:49 am
No problem Draggon, yeah it could use a bit of desaturation for it to be medieval.

Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: okiN on April 29, 2012, 04:08:31 pm
Please upload the pack on a site that doesn't require registration for downloads?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Casimir on April 29, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
Try the second link :)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: okiN on April 29, 2012, 04:19:34 pm
Ah, I see. I was looking at the one lower down.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Casimir on April 29, 2012, 04:31:15 pm
:D
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Spanish on April 30, 2012, 07:04:23 pm
What's the difference between this one and overdriven's? Honestly a serous question haha Ive been wondering this for awhile now
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on April 30, 2012, 07:55:05 pm
Mine includes all clans as long as they pass a basic quality check.

This is strictly for the more 'medieval' realistic looking banners and so is more stringent on rules.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on April 30, 2012, 09:17:52 pm
What's the difference between this one and overdriven's? Honestly a serous question haha Ive been wondering this for awhile now
Mine includes all clans as long as they pass a basic quality check.

This is strictly for the more 'medieval' realistic looking banners and so is more stringent on rules.

Yeah you can pretty much call Overdriven/Kalam's Pack the "Official" Clan Banner Pack.  Mine/Arked's is the "Alternative" or "Medieval" Clan Banner Pack.  The clan banner slots are the same for each pack (or at least will be when I'm done matching them all up), but like Overdriven already mentioned, not all of the official banners will be in the Alternative pack.  However, one thing I'm working on is inputting "placeholder" banners that follow the theme of the clans whose official banner may not have made it into the alternative (medieval) pack.  That way, even if they never submit a banner for the alternative pack, at least there will be something there that will associate with their clan.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Spanish on April 30, 2012, 11:54:55 pm
Thanks I was curious because my friend said we had a black banner and I was like I shOuld sick it with my bright red heraldic tunic with the white cross making me a bullseye for all the archers
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Digglez on May 01, 2012, 07:14:09 am
Please upload the pack on a site that doesn't require registration for downloads?

Why arent you using dropbox, skydrive or googledrive?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 01, 2012, 04:54:50 pm
Why arent you using dropbox, skydrive or googledrive?

The 2nd link in the OP doesn't require any kind of registration for those who don't have or don't want a Nexus account.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Matching Heraldic Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Digglez on May 01, 2012, 07:44:30 pm
The 2nd link in the OP doesn't require any kind of registration for those who don't have or don't want a Nexus account.

Why even include it? THe % of cRPG players with an account there is prob 1%.  At least put non-register link ON TOP
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Casimir on May 01, 2012, 10:34:55 pm
His banner pack, his choice...
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Largg on May 05, 2012, 03:33:01 pm
New patch broke the scripts file. Using old breaks the game and current results ugly heraldic armors. Could you fix it?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Dooz on May 05, 2012, 04:35:46 pm
Yeah without the script, no matching backs. I've still been using this pack over the... more colorful one though, waiting patiently for the update.  :P
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 05, 2012, 04:38:22 pm
You bet. Will have it up today.
Should also have the next release soon to follow, but at least for now will get the repaired script up.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 05, 2012, 05:53:49 pm
Updated scripts.txt (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2Q7x8TrfvBuTkZJSnk0NzBqcVk/edit?pli=1) for 0.274 patch.

- Go to File > Download
- Drop into your main cRPG folder and replace the old one.
- Done!

(this fixes the Heraldic backs to match the banners again, since the patch overwrites your scripts.txt)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Alternate Clan Banner Pack (updated for 0.274)
Post by: Dooz on May 06, 2012, 02:27:06 am
Uh oh. Another update, another not working script file. The timing!  :lol:
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Alternate Clan Banner Pack (updated for 0.274)
Post by: Overdriven on May 06, 2012, 02:48:58 am
If its the same as mine the scripts file should still work.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.6] Alternate Clan Banner Pack (updated for 0.274)
Post by: Dooz on May 06, 2012, 11:06:15 am
I had actually tried that, but the problem was the color on the backs, I'm guessing because different banners in different slots with the two packs. But I repaired and reinstalled submods in different orders and stuff and it seems to be working fine now. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack (updated for 0.274)
Post by: Draggon on May 07, 2012, 08:52:00 pm
Version 2.8 Download:
M&B Nexus Mods (http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3654)
Google Drive (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2Q7x8TrfvBuQVFJdVU2bXhzTFU)
- Opened slot A-3-5, former Armata Branceleone (AB)
- Added Warpigs (Warpig), slot B-3-1 (desaturated, added noise)
- Opened slot B-3-4, former Varangians (VRN)
- Opened slot C-2-5, former Order of the Rose (Rose)
- Moved Cavalieres (Cavalieres) from B-2-6 to correct slot E-3-6, opened slot B-2-6
- Removed The Risen (Risen), slot D-1-3
- Reserved N4B, slot D-1-3 (placeholder banner, N4B in Greek)
- Added Joannites (Joannite), slot D-1-4
- Added Knights of the Honor Guard (HG), slot D-1-5 (desaturated, added noise)
- Reserved FIDLGB, D-1-6 (placeholder banner, big black medieval bowling ball)
- Reserved PROfessionalz (PRO), slot D-2-2 (placeholder, same colors as official banner)
- Added Deutsche Krieger Gottes (Wolves), slot D-2-5 (desaturated, added noise)
- Reserved Black Watch (BW), slot D-2-6 (placeholder, yellow eye on black background)
- Opened slot D-2-7, former Camel Screamers (Camels)
- Opened slot D-3-2, former Túatha na nGael (Tuatha)
- Added Orde van Oranje-Nassau (NL), slot D-3-5 (removed 3d effect, added noise)
- Moved Knights of Jerusalem (K-O-J) to the correct slot, from C-3-6 to D-3-6
- Reserved Order of the Staffmen, slot D-3-7 (placeholder, staffs in a circle pointing outward)
- Moved my old friend (former Bandits) reserved slot from G-1-5 to the correct G-3-3 with placeholder
- Reassigned matching colors to the Heraldic backs of all moved and added banners

(Compatible with cRPG Version 0.274)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Casimir on May 07, 2012, 10:49:41 pm
Google link is gi'ving an error mate

'Sorry, the page (or document) you have requested does not exist.'
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 07, 2012, 10:59:23 pm
Damn that's strange.
Okay try this one (https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=bf83e703f194b0cc&resid=BF83E703F194B0CC!179&parid=BF83E703F194B0CC!162&authkey=!AOoctIPIwpjnvlk).
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Casimir on May 07, 2012, 11:00:45 pm
Works fine, i can suggest dropbox as well as a good alternative :)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Banzai!!! on May 08, 2012, 12:05:20 am
Hi im new to your banner pack so forgive me if I have got this all wrong but is the hospitaller banner meant to look like this?

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)

As you can see the back is all white and also you will notice when you look at it at the front its all fuzzy its not full black with white cross but instead there's shades of white thats leaked all over the black.

Personally I had hoped it was going to look more like this:

(click to show/hide)

As you can see here it is simply just black and white and there is no weird white shading so I ask you now is the banner in this game meant to look like the two screenshots  I just posted where you are given a white back and have strange white fuzzyness at the front because if this is the case I am very sad :(
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Casimir on May 08, 2012, 12:32:55 am
You need to follow the read-me instructions.

replace the scripts.txt in your cRPG module folder with the one in the banner pack.

Also you may want to look at getting Correct Emblem Positioning on Heraldic Armors by Ulrich.  Found here http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,26475.0.html
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 08, 2012, 02:05:36 am
Banzai, both you and Casimir are correct in a couple of regards.  I've actually been kinda waiting on a response from Hospitallers on this so I'm glad you chimed in.

The scripts.txt actually does color the back of the black&white Hospitaller heraldics as the same white to match the cross.  I can very easily go back and try to make the backs black again, however there are several problems with this.
When I did it before, the almost 'velvet' appearance of the front threw the colors off and there's no way to actually match that on the back.  I tried several shades of black, off-black, grey - all sampled from from the front mesh of shades.  None of them worked and tbh, looked rather shitty.

There's really only one way to fix this, and that's for you to allow me to re-shade the front to where it reduces or totally gets rid of the 'shine' effect that can't be reproduced on the back.
Or, the other option is that I can match it as close as I can and we can just roll with it.

Now as far as the fuzziness... unfortunately there's nothing that can be done for that.  It's a Warband issue with the Heraldic with Surcoat.  What happens is that the graphic gets spread over a larger area, depixelating the image.  With the other Heraldics though it's not an issue since the 'canvas' is almost half the size.  The images come out a lot sharper.

Lastly, like Casimir mentioned, to change the emblem positioning on the Heraldics, you have to download and install the file he listed in his post.  That will put the emblems on the chest of heraldics.
Otherwise, in order for Clan's emblem to show up correctly in the circle above their head, it has to be in a certain position in the banner.dds.  Unfortunately that defaults the emblem to be right along the belt line of heraldics, unless a mod like the one above is installed to correct it.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Banzai!!! on May 08, 2012, 02:55:01 am
(click to show/hide)
Hmm so looking at the Hospitaller Banner is all this white shading at the top there thats mixed with black this shine effect?

I ask because this is what I hate about it the most personally I would get rid of this and simply just have it as black and white cross just like what's been done with the Templars banner where there is no horrible shine its simply just a white and red cross.

I simply ask you make it something like this where its just a black/grey coat and a white cross, Something that looks epic but simple too and doesn't have the horrible white shiny effect mixed witht he black:

(click to show/hide)

Also reason Im being persistent about this particular banner is cause I like to roleplay in CRPG and thought it be really cool if I could ride round looking like one of these hospitallers  :D

But also thanks Casimir for directing me to the sub mod. I installed it and its great I really don't think I would have known about it unless you had mentioned it lolz  :D
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on May 08, 2012, 04:39:56 am
Goddamn. Cant there be a file that makes the AHB (AboveHeadBanners) and the Shielddrawings be taken from the chest of the Char? That Way I could make banners that do not look like bellybuttonpiercings.

And before somebody says something: No, I will not download that strange russian file that make something weird with my heraldic-armour! :O
(no offense against russians intended. I just dont trust them when it comes to my files/my pc. Some bad things happened in my past regarding a russian and my first PC. Dont wanna talk about it. -.-)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 08, 2012, 07:25:05 am
(click to show/hide)
Hmm so looking at the Hospitaller Banner is all this white shading at the top there thats mixed with black this shine effect?

I ask because this is what I hate about it the most personally I would get rid of this and simply just have it as black and white cross just like what's been done with the Templars banner where there is no horrible shine its simply just a white and red cross.

I simply ask you make it something like this where its just a black/grey coat and a white cross, Something that looks epic but simple too and doesn't have the horrible white shiny effect mixed witht he black:

(click to show/hide)

Also reason Im being persistent about this particular banner is cause I like to roleplay in CRPG and thought it be really cool if I could ride round looking like one of these hospitallers  :D

But also thanks Casimir for directing me to the sub mod. I installed it and its great I really don't think I would have known about it unless you had mentioned it lolz  :D

Banzai I wouldn't mind doing this at all.  Would be no problem to remove the shine.  Just so you understand it's not going to be a flat black, i.e. #000000.  It looks cartoonish in-game and doesn't look real at all.  Have to have some greyish in there to resemble folds in cloth, etc.  Then of course I'll match it on the back.
I can even throw some blood spatter on it if you like, from that 2nd pic you provided.


Niemand I have a solution for the AHB/shield/chest banners that doesn't involve downloading anything extra, but it's getting late so I'll fill you in tomorrow.
Time to hit the rack.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 08, 2012, 11:03:33 pm
M&B Nexus Mods (http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/mods/3654) link is back up as well.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Truvor on May 14, 2012, 01:25:29 pm
why no deserter banner in bannerpack?  :(
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Made in China on May 17, 2012, 01:14:21 am
I don't know if our banner can be accepted. But if we are:

  • Armée Imperiale (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,31771.0.html)
  • G-2-2 (If possible)
  • 73150b (Background)
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Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 19, 2012, 04:26:12 pm
why no deserter banner in bannerpack?  :(

I must've missed that one when I was working on the c.dds file. =/  But looking at your banner I think we can make it work, if I have your permission to desaturate the red a little (it's very bright), and reduce the thick outlining some.  Overall it has a very copy/pasted factory look to it atm.  If you let me "cloth" it up a bit, I'll add it to the next release.

I don't know if our banner can be accepted. But if we are:

Nice banner.  There is 'something' that kinda bugs me about it (from a medieval cloth standpoint), but can't put my finger on it yet.  Maybe it's the black edging around the letters, I dunno.  Colors are good though, nothing too shiny or outrageous.  Good medieval art form.  I'll keep at it, see what I can come up with and see if we can get in the next update.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on May 21, 2012, 11:14:09 pm
I didn't know about your banner pack, that's awesome! I'm tired of those shitty banner in Overdriven's pack. Now I will use yours. Can you add the new Occitan banner ? Ask Overdriven for it. Thx :)

PS: He changed the back color for heraldic so make sure he gives you the codes and stuff.

Poor Overdriven, he catches so much flack for the crappy banners people make.  Not his fault, he's just giving clans what they want.
But yes, I'll add your new banner to the next update.  Gonna kinda miss your old one. =/  I liked it.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Nessaj on May 21, 2012, 11:28:02 pm
He could just have the strength to say no and retain some authenticity in his efforts. I'm sure all appreciate his willingness to do it, but if you serve shit your own stuff becomes shit as well.

The 'lame' banners should have their own pack, but interestingly enough no one is willing to handle that. Gee, wonder why? Because those who use these banners aren't doing it to "have fun" or to be "identified" they're doing it to get a reaction from other players, to be provocative or troll, hence if they had their own pack no one would care, not even themselves, how long did that one attempt at creating a alternative pack for lame banners go? Yeah it died out fast.

If who ever at any time is doing the Standard Pack would just deny the idiocy, everyone would be much better off.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on May 22, 2012, 06:25:11 am
Yah Q-Tips... thats why I always say something about banners that look shitty or unreal. Will not stop that. Evar. :O
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Truvor on June 03, 2012, 12:39:17 pm
I must've missed that one when I was working on the c.dds file. =/  But looking at your banner I think we can make it work, if I have your permission to desaturate the red a little (it's very bright), and reduce the thick outlining some.  Overall it has a very copy/pasted factory look to it atm.  If you let me "cloth" it up a bit, I'll add it to the next release.

It will be cool if u modify our banner and add it to the next release!
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Digglez on June 04, 2012, 11:48:29 pm
Google drive link doesnt work.
Norse Horde still not listed in 'used banners slots'
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on June 05, 2012, 09:00:29 am
Stay Calm. He hasnt done anything for some days now. Maybe hes busy or lazy or just annoyed by the new patches at the moment. :D
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on June 06, 2012, 08:38:14 am
Yeah Niemand pretty much hit it on the head.  Waiting to see how this is all gonna play out once they get done patching every day.  Right now the exclusive banners from c-rpg.net override the custom banner packs.  Think I have a way around that, but until the patches stop you'd have to re-copy/paste your banner pack & script.txt every day.

I did add Norse Horde to the 'Used Banner Slot' list though.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Overdriven on June 06, 2012, 11:57:00 am
The custom banners are completely different files. They don't change the banner pack files. I've not had to recopy mine in since the first update. The only problem is the updates of the scripts.txt.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on June 06, 2012, 04:12:06 pm
Right, I said that wrong I guess.  What I meant was that, you may have one of the banner packs installed, but in-game the std_banners_custom (exclusives) are somehow 'prioritized' over the std_banners (banner packs).  Not that the files themselves are overwritten - sorry about the confusion there.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Corpus on June 17, 2012, 11:55:27 am
After installing the banner pack I get script errors at the start and m&b crashes after I try to join a server.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on June 19, 2012, 03:48:57 am
I'll redo the scripts for you bud. 
I really haven't messed with this since they came out with exclusive banners due to the constant patching overwriting scripts, and alot of the banners you can't even see due to exclusives taking precedence in-game over the banner packs. =/

If I knew where the scripts were for the new exclusives, I could just copy/paste the banner pack over those instead and the scripts would match, but I don't have this nifty little piece of info... yet.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on June 19, 2012, 06:21:48 am
Here's the updated scripts.txt:
M&B Nexus (http://mountandblade.nexusmods.com/download/2944)
Google Drive (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2Q7x8TrfvBuZHlqaWJieTBBRmc)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on June 19, 2012, 06:32:23 am
I guess I will mirror it on my server, too. ;)

as soon as i can dl it. -.-

Edit/Update:
Mirror, Server in Germany (http://cotgs.de/bannerpacks/Scripts_txt_for_cRPG_ver_0286-3654-2-8.zip)

As soon as you upload a complete bannerpack.zip I will mirror that, too. Got enough space on my server, would not need it at all. :D


Edit2:
Since the NativeBannerpack and the cRPG-Bannerpacks got different bannersizes inside... is there a possibility (for me) to alter the Native-files so the cRPG-Bannerpacks are usable there?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on June 19, 2012, 02:56:06 pm
Kewl deal Niemand, thx for the optional mirror.  8-)


As for the Native pack sizes, I'm thinking the following steps might fix that...
- Use the square 'Select' tool or 'Crop' tool in Photoshop or Gimp to outline just the banners in one of the .dds files for cRPG (doesn't matter which one - they're all the same size).  Be sure to draw the box around all 21 banners, but only the banners and not the wood-looking crap on the side.
- Choose to 'Copy' the selection you've made.
- Open one of the .dds files for Native Warband and 'Paste' the cRPG copy on top.
- Resize the new layer with the corner and side adjustment bars till it fits exactly into the proper size of the Native .dds. (banner part only of course)
- Merge layer down, save .dds.

That should do it!  Gonna try one myself just to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on June 20, 2012, 12:29:13 am
The banners would be fucked up by then. we would have an eliptic sun, not a round one anymore.

What I meant was that some line of code somewhere could maybe resize the native-banners so that I simply can put in the crpg-bannerfiles.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Spleen on July 10, 2012, 11:13:04 pm
btw, any way to get a working link for the bannerfiles? dont care about the scripts.txt.
google drive seems to be down, and I'll be damned if I have to join nexus for a friggin 2.9 mb file...
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on July 17, 2012, 03:43:57 am
Yeah Spleen, I'll upload it to Skydrive or something tomorrow for you.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: cheif666 on July 23, 2012, 03:38:19 pm
     Just saying again, Thank for the amazing new banners. They make the game feel fresh rather than the same old things. That's why CRPG overall is a very good idea to keep the game pumped up.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on July 28, 2012, 08:58:59 pm
Thanks Chief. =P

Spleen, sorry for the late update man.  Went out of town and forgot to put this badboy up on a different host.
Anyway, here's a Skydrive link (banners only, no script):
Medieval Clan Banner Pack (http://sdrv.ms/OmMEtz)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Spleen on July 30, 2012, 06:42:17 pm
np man, we all have a rl too  :rolleyes:
thx for the upload
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Garond_PL on August 31, 2012, 07:21:15 am
Clan : Kingdom of Redania ( http://forum.meleegaming.com/faction-halls/(of_teneris)-kingdom-of-teneris/ )
Slot: C-3-5
Banner: http://i.imgur.com/vIDCW.png
Background : red (maybe a62121  :)
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Conquisitore on September 04, 2012, 09:06:58 pm
Hey,

1. http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24976.msg361059.html#msg361059
                 http://conquisitore.co.ohost.de/
2. B 3-3
3. Background colour: Black

 visitors can't see pics , please register or login


can you please add this banner instead of the old one???
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on October 04, 2012, 04:35:42 pm
Is anyone still using these banner packs after the addition of being able to upload banners on the crpg website?
If so just holler and I'll keep updating the banners only.  However, I'm not going to mess with the scripts anymore since they get overwritten almost daily.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Conquisitore on October 04, 2012, 08:39:46 pm
yeah, of course i use it. its pretty nice to see how all those clans pop up and disappear after some time again, in former times it was hareder to create a clan so please keep the banner pack open.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on October 04, 2012, 10:10:26 pm
Wolves use it, too.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on October 05, 2012, 08:48:45 am
Okay, well this is good to know.  Time constraints have gotten even tighter than before, but I'll try and continue to work on the pack as I get free here n' there.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Conquisitore on October 05, 2012, 07:15:19 pm
can you maybe add an alternate download link, maybe a direct one???  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on October 07, 2012, 06:42:57 pm
Sure, if you have any suggestions I can try something else.  So far the link is up on Nexus, Googledrive, and Skydrive.  But if none of those work for you I'm happy to give anything a shot.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Conquisitore on October 07, 2012, 09:15:06 pm
why you dont use one of these free-webspace-hosters like hostingsociety,... ?
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on October 08, 2012, 12:39:40 am
if you send the pack to me, I can upload it on the cotgs-server and link it to you. maybe give you a ftp-acc later on.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Draggon on October 09, 2012, 04:37:56 pm
Okay, here's a link for the download at filehosting.org
Version 2.8 (http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/382911/Arked_Draggon_Matching_Heraldics.zip) (without scripts)

And Niemand if you want man you can upload that to cotgs and I'll be glad to include the link here as an alternate download location.  'Preciate that.
Title: Re: [Ver 2.8] Arked-Draggon Alternate Clan Banner Pack
Post by: Niemand on October 09, 2012, 11:23:17 pm
Alright. Will do that after we finally got our root. Its already paid and stuff... can only take years from now on. ^^