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Title: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 05:32:35 am
 Hi, this is MaTRiX. So recently I joined LL and all was going well.  And just so you know, yes, this is Ricky. About 1 month ago I got banned for being stupid.  So I bought a new account (with the consent of the devs), and my friend KIKIT decided to take a break from the game and gave me some looms.  I took those looms and played the market for a while.  I ended up with
+3 brigandine
+2 haubergeon
+2 elegant poleaxe
+1 english bill

Last night my friend Egad, another person who got banned with me, got unbanned.   He told me I might be getting unbanned soon.  KIKIT also said he was going to start playing cRPG again, so I thought OK, to be safe I will give the looms to a friend, because the way it was explained, if you are unbanned and have 2 accounts, you have to choose one, and I did not want to lose all my friend’s looms.  So I gave them to my clan leader Killer of Flowers, so that I could use my original account if it got unbanned and KIKIT could still get his looms when he came back.   
Last night Flowers “kicked” me out of LL, after I already told him I was going to leave the clan.  Still in possession of KIKIT’s looms, he banned me from teamspeak and blocked me on steam, cutting off all communication.  I decided to talk to ManOfWar, seeing as he is a respected and level-headed player who could act as mediator.  Through Mano, Flowers finally agreed to return the looms except for the +3 brigandine which he apparently traded for another lordly armor.  He further declined to attempt a retrade so that he could return the brigandine and refused to transfer the +3 armor that he had traded the stolen brigandine for. 
I would like the brigandine returned if possible, or the armor he traded it for if not.  I also consider this a PSA of sorts and warn others to avoid dealing with Flowers.   
Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Thanatos on February 29, 2012, 05:36:58 am
Ban Flowers... Justice for Ricky..!
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Aseldo on February 29, 2012, 05:41:45 am
Sticky situation.... :wink:
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Tanken on February 29, 2012, 05:42:20 am
Honestly just give him his gear back Flowers, you're a commander of a Clan, and a respectable one at that--this is nothing but bad publicity for you and Ricky gave you more than ample time and ManOWar and I both suggested you give all his gear back.


He's been patient thus far, just give him back all his stuff.


Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 29, 2012, 05:43:02 am
How retarded (and trusting) are you?  My own bro wouldn't even give me his looms when he was contemplating quitting (and didnt play for 2 months). 

Maybe you should have asked for them back before you said you were going to quit...

I'm not saying Killer isn't a cut throat douche, but seriously, you gave your looms to someone, they are no longer yours.  I feel empathy for you, but this is a learning moment :p
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 05:45:06 am
i know huseby its shamfur dishplay , fyi i lack common sense lol
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 05:46:41 am
i gave him back all but 1 +3 item for compensation for what he did to my clan
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 05:47:59 am
Quote from: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 05:46:41 am
i gave him back all but 1 +3 item for compensation for what he did to my clan

You mean what allers did, i simply said do you want me to leave, and you replied yes. Seriously leaving a clan gives you no right to steel lordly armor from me.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 05:48:19 am
in my honest opinion ive been nice thus far to give him back all but 1 item because he did give them to me even if it was only to hold onto untille his other account got unbanned
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Uumdi on February 29, 2012, 05:50:12 am
Yeah, that's bush league man.  If he says, "Too bad," that isn't really a fair or mature response to pocketing 8 gens worth of heirlooms (nice ones at that).  Ricky's already having a rough time, and though this doesn't exactly fit into the new marketplace rules, it's not right.

Sure he gave back some of them, but he's only making partial reparations.  Whether he intended on keeping all of those looms, kicking him to the curb, and giving him the perma-cold shoulder or not, he certainly didn't intend to let Flowers keep them.  It'd do the community justice if he gets his armor back, or whatever the admins see fit.

Flowers doesn't need a ban though.  +3 Brig is understandably tempting.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: PieParadox on February 29, 2012, 05:50:49 am
Hard to take sides but...

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,26691.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,26691.0.html)

Not sure if that completely applies... but Meow does not tolerate scamming!
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on February 29, 2012, 05:51:11 am
Are we talking about your whole life's fortune or a few weeks of playing a game for an item that gives +5 armor...

It's the internet, where you play a game.
You can be deceitful, whiny, and dishonest in the real world when some people grow up.

Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 05:53:55 am
"New Market Rule" thread
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,26691.0.html

Quote
-- If you instead decide to keep the stuff or try to get some extra money out of it, we will forcefully return those items/gold and make sure there is a proper punishment.
-- As always - common sense applies, cases that fall under this rule will be obvious to everyone.

This a direct breach of the recent market rules. I personally support the full extent of procedure in the event that the perpetrator was indeed knowingly screwing the victim over.

I do encourage that a proper investigation go about for this particular event, as it seems to be an extraordinary case.

edit; screw you PirParadox for beating me to the link

edit2; Killer, you're a cool guy. And I've played with you  a bunch of times. Yes, Ricky may not be well liked among the community, but I'm sure you can do better than screwing the guy over. I do appreciate that you gave him most of his heirlooms back, but this could definitely be sorted out in a far less aggressive manner.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Xol! on February 29, 2012, 05:58:11 am
Quote from: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 05:53:55 am
"New Market Rule"

Well... unfortunately this isn't really covered, at least not under the rule as stated. This wasn't some mistake on the market place, this was someone getting pissed off because someone else trolled them.

Moral of the story: Don't let people 'hold your looms'
Other moral of the story: Don't troll people holding your looms
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Smoothrich on February 29, 2012, 05:58:31 am
give them back you idiot douchebag

gg LL is shit clan and their leader is a shithead scammer
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Rikthor on February 29, 2012, 05:58:49 am
That sounds pretty shady regardless if you think he did something to your clan and pretty childish in my opinion. It's also pretty blatant scamming. Poor form.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 05:59:05 am
Quote from: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 05:53:55 am
"New Market Rule" thread
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,26691.0.html

Yes, Ricky may not be well liked among the community,

THANKS BRO I LOVE U TO .
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 05:59:54 am
Quote from: Xolvern on February 29, 2012, 05:58:11 am
Well... unfortunately this isn't really covered. This wasn't some mistake on the market place, this was someone getting pissed off because someone else trolled them.

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-- As always - common sense applies, cases that fall under this rule will be obvious to everyone.

While I realize that it is not covered in the market rules thread, the use of the market comes into play here, and one party is certainly screwing over a different party with full knowledge of the deceit.

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Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Xol! on February 29, 2012, 06:02:33 am
Quote from: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 05:59:54 am
While I realize that it is not covered in the market rules thread, the use of the market comes into play here, and one party is certainly screwing over a different party with full knowledge of the deceit.

True.  I'm just saying there's no precedent set for this type of situation yet.  We'll see what the devs do, if KillerofFlowers elects not to give it back.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Smoothrich on February 29, 2012, 06:02:58 am
also this is what happens when teenagers run videogame clans, all they do is scam and troll and make themselves and everyone associated with them look horrible, i understand because they are kids, but I'm just going to treat LL all like scumbags now becuase of you so good job
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Casimir on February 29, 2012, 06:03:19 am
Whether in the rules or not this is clearly a douchebag move.  Ricky always seemed like a decent enough guy to me, if a little annoying with the steam messaging. There's no reason for that kind of behaviour especially from a community leader.  Taking it as compensation is the most pathetic thing i've ever heard.  Compensation for what, someone trusting you?

Absolutely pathetic.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:03:33 am
Ricky calling the Leader of my clan a "theef". And the multiple times ricky has been accused of doing all this random shit and everything. Even that post I made a while back about him teamwounding (In our old LL server). We all know ricky doesnt have an upstanding reputation in the community. Now he expects everyone to feel sorry for him. He leaves LL takes shit tons of our members. Gets banned for exploiting. Buys new CD key and joins LL after all the shit he gave us, he should feel priviledged to join LL after that. We kick him for trolling and now hes going on a whole escapade about how he cant get that one extra item in a video game.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: ManOfWar on February 29, 2012, 06:03:38 am
The rule of " Do not royally screw people over"

Comes into play here.

Give him his damn looms back, sorry it came to this ricky

Quote from: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:03:33 am
Ricky calling the Leader of my clan a "theef". And the multiple times ricky has been accused of doing all this random shit and everything. Even that post I made a while back about him teamwounding (In our old LL server). We all know ricky doesnt have an upstanding reputation in the community. Now he expects everyone to feel sorry for him. He leaves LL takes shit tons of our members. Gets banned for exploiting. Buys new CD key and joins LL after all the shit he gave us, he should feel priviledged to join LL after that. We kick him for trolling and now hes going on a whole escapade about how he cant get that one extra item in a video game.

a +3 loom takes a long time to acquire..... A damn long time....
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Smoothrich on February 29, 2012, 06:04:57 am
Quote from: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:03:33 am
Ricky calling the Leader of my clan a "theef". And the multiple times ricky has been accused of doing all this random shit and everything. Even that post I made a while back about him teamwounding (In our old LL server). We all know ricky doesnt have an upstanding reputation in the community. Now he expects everyone to feel sorry for him. He leaves LL takes shit tons of our members. Gets banned for exploiting. Buys new CD key and joins LL after all the shit he gave us, he should feel priviledged to join LL after that. We kick him for trolling and now hes going on a whole escapade about how he cant get that one extra item in a video game.

here look another LL shit head, not surprised

hope you guys don't expect to play Strat, or break any rules on the servers ever again
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:06:32 am
Quote from: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:03:33 am
Ricky calling the Leader of my clan a "theef". And the multiple times ricky has been accused of doing all this random shit and everything. Even that post I made a while back about him teamwounding (In our old LL server). We all know ricky doesnt have an upstanding reputation in the community. Now he expects everyone to feel sorry for him. He leaves LL takes shit tons of our members. Gets banned for exploiting. Buys new CD key and joins LL after all the shit he gave us, he should feel priviledged to join LL after that. We kick him for trolling and now hes going on a whole escapade about how he cant get that one extra item in a video game.

But if this is your perception of the guy, why bring yourselves down to the level that you appear to despise?

This thread focuses more on the event, not as much the history leading up to it.

Be the bigger man, guys.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 06:08:04 am
Quote from: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:03:33 am
Ricky calling the Leader of my clan a "theef". And the multiple times ricky has been accused of doing all this random shit and everything. Even that post I made a while back about him teamwounding (In our old LL server). We all know ricky doesnt have an upstanding reputation in the community. Now he expects everyone to feel sorry for him. He leaves LL takes shit tons of our members. Gets banned for exploiting. Buys new CD key and joins LL after all the shit he gave us, he should feel priviledged to join LL after that. We kick him for trolling and now hes going on a whole escapade about how he cant get that one extra item in a video game.


U kicked allers for trolling,i left because u kicked allers, me and allers stay together :P
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:08:42 am
Uh oh Smooth is now threatening me so if I do anything wrong at all imma get the ban hammer.

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Quote from: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 06:08:04 am

U kicked allers for trolling,i left because u kicked allers, me and allers stay together :P

I dont understand why you think we kicked allers because of trolling when you troll harder than him than blame him for all the things you have also jumped in on. You gotta respect allers for being a great friend and sticking up for you still after you blame him for everything. I even still like allers.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:10:52 am
Quote from: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:08:42 am
Uh oh Smooth is now threatening me so if I do anything wrong at all imma get the ban hammer.

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You are not helping your clans' situation.

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Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:11:46 am
ricky had asked me to hold on to the looms untill he got unbanned a few days ago so i said ok as to be a good friend. then him and allers kept trolling my alliance so i decided to kick him from the clan last night. he then automatically jumped to the conclusion that i was going to steal his looms instead of giving them back when he got unbanned which is what he had asked me to do. so when he threatened me to give them back or he was going to report me i lost my cool and traded the armour, after i cooled off i decided i was going to give back most of the looms instead of giving them all back. if he didnt immediately jump to conclusions that i was going to scam and threaten to report me yea i definitely would have given all looms back but thats not how he decided to handle it.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: ManOfWar on February 29, 2012, 06:12:02 am
Nah your fine Phoenix, your leader not so much

Furthermore Smooth will not be doing the punishment, Oh no, someone much higher up will

@Killer- both of you are claiming different stories....
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 06:14:44 am
Quote from: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:11:46 am
ricky had asked me to hold on to the looms untill he got unbanned a few days ago so i said ok as to be a good friend. then him and allers kept trolling my alliance so i decided to kick him from the clan last night. he then automatically jumped to the conclusion that i was going to steal his looms instead of giving them back when he got unbanned which is what he had asked me to do. so when he threatened me to give them back or he was going to report me i lost my cool and traded the armour, after i cooled off i decided i was going to give back most of the looms instead of giving them all back. if he didnt immediately jump to conclusions that i was going to scam and threaten to report me yea i definitely would have given all looms back but thats not how he decided to handle it.

This is a direct lie, and i have proof. I used tanken and manofwar to message you first. The first thing they messages, was hey can ricky please have his looms back, thanks. You had no response, then the next messaged said please can i have my looms or i will have to take action. Again no reply. Only after the strat battle and ManOfWar and Tanken saying in chat in front of everyone to give me my stuff back you responded and came to chaos ts to speak in front of ManOfWar and uftahk. So please get your facts right


EDIT: Also u perma banned me from ts last night when i asked for them, you also deleted me from steam . This speaks for itself
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:14:48 am
Dexxt see if this works

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Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:15:02 am
no im not making stuff up what i said there is all true
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:16:47 am
Quote from: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 06:14:44 am
This is a direct lie, and i have proof. I used tanken and manofwar to message you first. The first thing they messages, was hey can ricky please have his looms back, thanks. You had no response, then the next messaged said please can i have my looms or i will have to take action. Again no reply. Only after the strat battle and ManOfWar and Tanken saying in chat in front of everyone to give me my stuff back you responded and came to chaos ts to speak in front of ManOfWar and uftahk. So please get your facts right


EDIT: Also u perma banned me from ts last night when i asked for them, you also deleted me from steam
i was in school untill 2:30 today then had work after and got home at 9:30 to hear what was going on so even if u were attempting to get in touch with me i was working so there was no way i could have seen those messages...
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on February 29, 2012, 06:17:32 am
I freak out and go rage-a-holic when someone I will never meet and never have to deal with if I turned off my computer, accuses me of something I didn't do, as well.

Man, it's late, and I'd like to see where this goes.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Christo on February 29, 2012, 06:17:39 am
All this childish behaviour, over a bunch of pixels..

Just grow the F up already, this is like Kindergarten.

I mean the guys becoming instant douchebags when it comes to heirlooms, offers or whatever.
Man up already.

Also I know that heirlooms have a personal value, and dedicated time value as well. But still..
This is just silly.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Adrian on February 29, 2012, 06:17:48 am
Quote from: Smoothrich on February 29, 2012, 06:02:58 am
also this is what happens when teenagers run videogame clans, all they do is scam and troll and make themselves and everyone associated with them look horrible, i understand because they are kids, but I'm just going to treat LL all like scumbags now becuase of you so good job

Lmao at this fat fucking piece of useless shit. Who the fuck are you? You're literally just some lard ass who thinks he's "somebody" in this mod for some reason. OMFG you can manage to maintain some 2-1 KD in battle as a lancer #easymode. And smoothfatfuck aren't you part of LLJK? Last time I checked that clan is literally home to 90% of the trolls in CRPG. Congrats you worthless, obese waste of space. Instead of sitting your fat ass trolling around on the forums, how about you go run some fucking laps down in your parents basement where we all know your stupid ass resides.

Anyway, now that I'm done expressing my compassion towards "people" like smooth lets get down to this issue. I have already spoke with him about what's happened while I been gone the past couple days. Personally, I would opt to return 100% of the looms that ricky placed into Flower's care. Although ricky is a troll and has zero credibility throughout the CRPG community, I don't believe it is morally right to take anyone's heirlooms. Even though there technically is no rule forbidding this exact situation, I still stand by returning the troll his equipment.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:18:16 am
i deleted u from steam cause i was in the moment.. i kicked u from the clan y would i want u on my friends list still?
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:19:25 am
Try to be civil, guys.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: MrShine on February 29, 2012, 06:19:35 am
just give him the +3 back, christ
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: ManOfWar on February 29, 2012, 06:21:33 am
Quote from: MrShine on February 29, 2012, 06:19:35 am
just give him the +3 back, christ

Whatever happened before,

The fact of the matter is that you now owe him a +3 brigandine

Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:26:35 am
well i dont have that item anymore... if it comes to it sure ill him the surcoat but technically i dont have to cause it is not in the rules
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:27:35 am
Just bear in mind that what transpires here will likely have some kind of effect on LL's future.

You guys need to look long term.

So far LL looks abusive, with a leader who has no problem with scamming, as long as it suits his needs. The details and history of the scam are irrelevant in the light that the scam itself did occur. Your members fire back with far more anger and foulness than is warranted, leading me to think that there is something we don't know yet.

Please handle this the right way, guys.

What more does a man have but his word?
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: PieParadox on February 29, 2012, 06:28:12 am
reminds me of haven

ahh.. good times  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Christo on February 29, 2012, 06:30:10 am
Also, this easily falls under the new scamming rule, if you think about it.

So, you'd better think up something fast, and I'm not threatening you, I have no reason to do that.
It's only an advice, if you insist on playing this mod.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:32:02 am
Quote from: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:27:35 am
Just bear in mind that what transpires here will likely have some kind of effect on LL's future.

You guys need to look long term.

So far LL looks abusive, with a leader who has no problem with scamming, as long as it suits his needs. The details and history of the scam are irrelevant in the light that the scam itself did occur. Your members fire back with far more anger and foulness than is warranted, leading me to think that there is something we don't know yet.

Please handle this the right way, guys.

What more does a man have but his word?
and like i said if it comes to it ill give it back even tho he doesnt derserve it.. and i told manofwar earlier that the main reason to this besides from ricky jumping to the concluion is that im sick of taking all the shit that comes my clans way when all ive done since i started this clan was to be the bigger person and the most mmature and ive been fucked over countless times for it no matter how hard ive been trying over the last 5 months now i cant get this clan back to what it was after ricky fucked me over and took half my members.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Tanken on February 29, 2012, 06:34:03 am
Flowers, you sold the +3 already?
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on February 29, 2012, 06:35:13 am
See, normally people harm themselves when life isn't what they expect...

Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:35:37 am
Quote from: Tank Burner on February 29, 2012, 06:34:03 am
Flowers, you sold the +3 already?
i traded it as i said in a previous post
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Tanken on February 29, 2012, 06:37:27 am
So what are you going to do for ricky to get that Armor back?

Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:38:15 am
Quote from: Tank Burner on February 29, 2012, 06:37:27 am
So what are you going to do for ricky to get that Armor back?

You should write an epic about this.

(okay I'm seriously going to bed, I'm dead tired and this thread is keeping me up)
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Christo on February 29, 2012, 06:39:05 am
Quote from: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:35:37 am
i traded it as i said in a previous post

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You Fail.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:42:14 am
Quote from: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:35:37 am
i traded it as i said in a previous post

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Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on February 29, 2012, 06:42:27 am
I think everything here was handled very badly. Ricky first off should not have bought a separate account to circumvent a ban. Regardless of whether or not it is against of the rules it's just not the way to go through life. When you make a mistake you (should) deal with the consequences.
However this does NOT under any circumstances give anyone the right to fuck Ricky over. Especially since the looms weren't his in the first place.
On another note we should all know by now that the best way to deal with heirlooms is to trust nobody.
Quote from: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:32:02 am
i cant get this clan back to what it was after ricky fucked me over and took half my members.
And this I disagree with the most. At one point Diggles left DL and took a few of our best members with him, and since then DL has been going further down the death chute than it was before hand, and it was already on it's second reconstruction at that point. I think we're on DL number 4 right now or something like that. But at no point did I personally ever hold a grudge towards Diggles. He's chill. Did I mention that DL is at the smallest point it's been at since I joined?
EDIT: I disagree with the grudge, not the fact that that might be true.

tl;dr Everybody just chill out and live life.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 06:42:58 am
Quote from: Dexxtaa on February 29, 2012, 06:42:14 am
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Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 06:47:28 am
Quote from: JayPet94 on February 29, 2012, 06:42:27 am
I think everything here was handled very badly. Ricky first off should not have bought a separate account to circumvent a ban. Regardless of whether or not it is against of the rules it's just not the way to go through life. When you make a mistake you (should) deal with the consequences.


I respect you alot Chris, just to say, meow was the one who said getting another account was fine because the investigation will only start in 1-2 months
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Phoenix on February 29, 2012, 06:57:48 am
I think its pretty FOOKED UP to keep looms but idk I cant really have a side in this arguement I just say flowers give Ricky his looms back before LL's MASSIVE EPEEN goes to shit.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: John on February 29, 2012, 07:10:55 am
Look bud, it's just common sense not to agree to hold on to something for someone you don't like.  Whether you're on good terms or not, it's still theft if you don't hold up your end of the bargain.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: KillerofFlowers on February 29, 2012, 07:20:41 am
well either way this thread is over ive cooled off and am working on a solution with manofwar and ricky to get it back to him
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: ManOfWar on February 29, 2012, 07:21:17 am
Killer traded the +3 Brigandine to a chinese player by the name of BLOOD_jinyu1228

I am pretty sure he does not speak english so I will not be able to explain the situation to him

Hopefully meow can help in the morning
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: tennisstar on February 29, 2012, 07:29:18 am
As of right now . I got evrything back excpet armor because flowers decided to trade +3 brigandine for +3 surcoat over mail  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
So we are trying to get that armor back

Thanks for all the support, i will lock this now.

Let the great all powerful MR . MEOW handle it in when he awakens from his castle.
Title: Re: Leader of LL, Killer Of Flowers
Post by: Meow on February 29, 2012, 10:09:59 am
Well...
I hate to say it but neither was he tricked into trading the items to Flowers (which would be scamming like during a heirloom point sale) nor did he screw up his marketplace offer which is the only thing covered by that new rule.

If you trust people with your gear, you are on your own.

We are not planing on removing the whole trust part from the game, the new rule is just there until the Market system is failproof :mrgreen:

I find it pretty hilarious though that ricky trades stuff off the account just in case he might get unbanned at some point, don't get your hopes up bro.