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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Templar_Steevee on January 10, 2012, 06:35:39 pm
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One afternoon i came back home with a preety cheap game in my hand. At last i have my own warband, but what class should i choose? I've played as x-bow guy earlier at my cousins alt account. It was nice char with mw x-bow and bolts. But i always wants to be an archer. I think 'archer is good, he can change his positions and i'll be usefull in strat'. Yea i'll be preety annoying archer :D.
Playing as newbie was hard, no equipment, many mw things around and everyone wants o have a "free frag" named Steevee. At least i learned basic blocking.
After maaany hours of playing i started making kills and get long bow. I liked it from the begining. Most archers around were using horn bows because they "fast", but i loved my longbow for ability to onehitting poor armoured and low lvl players.
But longbow gots one more disadvantage: 777 gold upkeep... +354 gold for bag of boodkins x2... i wondered "how bag of sticks with a piece of metal on one end and pieces of feathers on second one can cost so much?" but after that i think "other players have bigger upkeep so it doesn't matter"
Today i played a bit and wondered who is my biggest enemy.
Cav? Yea, they are annoing. Almost always attack from behind, their horses are almost as quiet as ninjas and if any of them catch me on open field i just pray for help, in most of situation i minimize my game and watch wideos on youtube :P. If i stay in group or at good position i can fight with them preety easy and kill their horses.
2h and ninjas? As long i can see them i can fight them. If they come too close i can just run or block with my hand axe. It's funny to block with my small hand axe weapons like Flamberges and all big and scary poles :) But running and searching teammates is the best archers weapon against 2h and shielders.
Aaaahhhh... Shielders. Some of ppl probably think that's archers nightmare. Especially if some of them have throwing shit. But that's no 2 on my list.
On first place are other rangers. Dedicated crossbowman and archers are biggest archers problem. Arrows and bolts are sometimes flying from nowhere. I know that good feeling of onehitting archer with one bolt from crossbow. Looking at my enemies rag doll falling from roof makes smile on my face :D. Arrows are also deadly especially if there are more than one archer against you.
Most ppl rages about roofcampers. But who are they? Many times they are rangers who killed rangers from other team, or just ones who find a way to run from enemies infantry and cav. Roofs are for archers and x-bowers preety safety place like an open field for a good cav against 1h+shielders.
Death is everywhere... Even on rooftop rangers are not safety. On roofs they are almost only moving targets to kill by others team good working rangers. And if ninjas or shielders thinks a bit and cooperate with their teams rangers, they are able to force enemies to get down from roof or die there. :)
There is one more important thing. Shooting into melee. As an archer i can say that i always shoot into melee to help my mates not enemies. I'm sure that many of you rages about arrows or bolts in you ass and head. Shit happens, but wonder a while how many times archer or crossbowman saved ur life?
At the end of my short story i have one request for all infantry and cav: take care a bit of your teams archers and x-bowers because they can help you to win and get multi :)
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Well, I do, as I always place a ladder for them on rooftops. And I hate it. But I must, if I want to win the round.
Just one thing: only because something is pretty advantageous to someone, it doesn't mean it is okay. Sitting on a rooftop renders 2/3 of the enemy team (okay, 1/2, due to the amount of ranged) useless against you.
Infantry has to worry about infantry, cavalry and archers, while they can attack only what's near them.
Cavalry has to worry about cavalry and archers, while they can only attack what's near them.
Roofcampers have to worry only about archers, while they can attack everything they see.
And I don't think it's okay that some classes need to play in a team to defend other classes, while it is not the other way round, too.
Just my two or three cents.
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But you will prabably agree with me that if you catch archer he is almost always easy frag. And good working cav can kill many enemies rangers before they come to roofand that rangers are no. 1 to kill by cav coming from behind.
In villages there ate places where u are save from arrows and bows. And one more thing: zig-zagers. It's fu****g hard to shot a good moving guy who can see you
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if you catch archer
AHAHAH HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
They run, they run like bitches. Even if they don't run the slow combat makes most of them able to block me almost indefinitely when they don't attack back with the lil hammer.
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They run even more now, since crossbows don't kill them anymore :lol:
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They run even more now, since crossbows don't kill them anymore :lol:
One shots in general are bad in multiplayer anything.
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Archer Steve? As is Adam and Steve, I presume? :mrgreen:
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Steve i love archers especially when they kill my horse and me with two shots and when i try to kill them , i took arrow to my knee))) But i love archers with no reason, maybe because every time i kill archer i say to myself ""Fuck yea Alv u showed them who's their daddy" and i feel like a real man. BUT in 9 of 10 cases they shot down my Audrey(horse) and fuck me with their little hammers.((((((
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lol he want to schow you how he feel that...
everything what you do here is full of hate to them
i am 2hander in 16 gen and i have to say then i have no problems against them.
if archer kill me it is like 10% of my deaths coz i am not idiot who harge on them with naked chest,
they camp some roof???
avoid that roof, its that hard to do???
and any archer is taking leders for them.... that takes 2/3 slots evry fucking archer needs that slots!
so who is taking that??? pesants low lewels 2h boys wo seems to rage about that mostly, polearms ect.
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u stole my story steve. +1 i love it.
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Thunder BoB but is it normal to be killed with two or three arrows with 33/6build with 8IF and over 60body armor?
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Thunder BoB but is it normal to be killed with two or three arrows with 33/6build with 8IF and over 60body armor?
With bodkins and a high PD and you downhill or not super far away and against a high PD archer? Yes. Very much so. Just assume any bodkin two slot user is shooting Becs at you.
I used to use heirloomed standards, but the heavy cav spam has forced me to use heirloomed bodkins.
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But i feel myself naked village idiot on the battlefield. Thanks to speed bonus (over 9000% bonus) on horse in 99,9% im oneshotted so there no difference im naked or in armor.......fucking life
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Speed bonus, yes, the same thing that lets you one shot other people too on horseback. Sounds balanced.
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Balanced? It will be balanced if lances have 60meters long!
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Balanced? It will be balanced if lances have 60meters long!
So you want super increased speed, and the ability to do massive amounts of damage, but you see something wrong with the balancing factor that the speed bonus increases damage dealt to you as well?
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A nice, informative little story thing. I enjoyed reading it :)
As hard as I rage against the archers of the enemy team, I am immensely grateful for their presence in the game. As teammates, they're rather helpful in most any situation, and as enemies they're basically free kills if I can sneak up on them. My courser, you see, tip toes around the battlefield--she's sneaky.
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btw is it true that there are some Xp penalties for archers?
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btw is it true that there are some Xp penalties for archers?
No but lack of a soul maybe.
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Damnit, they found out about the archer nerf.
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I have soul, but it's waiting for cleaning from very long time :)
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No but lack of a soul maybe.
I can confirm this.
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There is one more important thing. Shooting into melee. As an archer i can say that i always shoot into melee to help my mates not enemies. I'm sure that many of you rages about arrows or bolts in you ass and head. Shit happens, but wonder a while how many times archer or crossbowman saved ur life?
I have to disagree; I've been hit in the back by friendly fire a lot more often than I've been saved. Particularly if you play siege a lot, this will happen. You are running along a wall when an enemy blocks your way and you have to fight. Any archer on your side will be behind you and so more likely to hit you in the back than the enemy who's on the other side of you. It's much easier for crossbow users: just keep the crosshair still and only shoot when the enemy moves into them, but archers I'd still advise not to try it.
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I sometimes play on siege and i know about shooting on walls. As i write at begining "Shit happens" but there are some retarded archers who don't care about how many team dmg they do. Especially on siege servers when they know that they will respawn in short period of time. I think on battles archers are more carefull with shooting than on siege.
I always say sorry if i make a friendly fire anyway :)
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I think on battles archers are more carefull with shooting than on siege.
I think the majority of people are more careful on Battle then Siege.