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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: ToniTcc on January 05, 2012, 09:44:37 am
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Since I couldn't find any PURE polearm guides, I decided to ask for one myself.
So I'm second gen and now I decided to go polearm. But since I'm still pretty new to this game and don't know every funny trick there is I tried to ask from you guys, who got some experience about this.
Pure polearm, no extra points to anything else than shield.
I wanted to try 15/24, but there seems to be lack of loomed long war axes, so maybe I go for higher dmg output(don't know yet, so give both opinions).
I'm not so sure about armor either, but higher ath would be nice(again not sure, so give your opinion)
And lastly, I don't want to be selfish, so lets make this overall a thread for new polearmers, who need guidance.
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18/21, medium to light armor, glaive, s-key, win
On a serious note, the standard Polearm is a great weapon (massive pierce), I'd suggest going for either 18/21, 21/18 or 24/15 builds. Rest is up to practice and talent.
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18/21, medium to light armor, glaive, s-key, win
On a serious note, the standard Polearm is a great weapon (massive pierce), I'd suggest going for either 18/21, 21/18 or 24/15 builds. Rest is up to practice and talent.
Forgot to say that I decided to become polearmer just because of shielders. I want high dmg output against shields. So only axes for me.
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Forgot to say that I decided to become polearmer just because of shielders. I want high dmg output against shields. So only axes for me.
Poleaxe has a bonus against shields :) It's pretty much the best pole out there.
If you really only care about high damage versus shields, take Great Long Axe.
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I never used a shieldbreaking weapon before, now I use the German Poleaxe and it is very useful, much more than I expected.
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Try 30/9 build with great long bardiche , taste the feeling of 1 hit KO 8-)
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Try 30/9 build with great long bardiche , taste the feeling of 1 hit KO 8-)
And then you get ganked and die with your 3 ath.
And back to thread. Can you say that how much I convert skills to attribute and vice versa?
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For build totaling 39 att (18/21, 24/15, 21/18) you need to convert 8skills to att
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I'm using 15/24 with Mighty Long War Axe at the moment and its very nice. 18/21 is good too. 21/18 is to slow in my opinion.
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Level 30
24/15
69hp
8 conv
8PS
5IF
5ATHL
5WM
Poleaxe
The wpf is high enough that the break chance on the expensive poleaxe is extremely low, and thus you can wear great armour.
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built of tears is the best for what you want
you can also go with a basic 18/18 built and have a side skill (riding) but you want pure and bla bla bla so go with ToD
(also... Love your new signature Tears)
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Heh, thank you kindly.
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Level 30
24/15
69hp
8 conv
8PS
5IF
5ATHL
5WM
Poleaxe
The wpf is high enough that the break chance on the expensive poleaxe is extremely low, and thus you can wear great armour.
I'm using this build right now, 8 PS is ridiculously fun. Stay back and poke, or charge in swinging, your call. Bring a 0 skill shield for arrows, a dagger for hallway fights.
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As you are also asking for tricks, I will talk about my experiences with polearms in the first ten hours I've played it since my respec.
Stun
A lot of polearms are quite heavy, the poleaxe and great long axe for example. By holding an overhead with a 3 weight weapon you can actually stun 2,5 weight 2h swords when they block, they can't attack back and have to block twice. If people don't see this coming they will try to attack and wont be able to. Stun doesn't always work on these semi heavy weapons, so don't assume he'll be stunned, 1h however will be stunned a lot.
Stab
The stab is fast, very fast. A couple of feints ending with a stab turned in catches a lot of people off guard. The poleaxes for example have a very high damage stab. Feinting stabs while turning around and then suddenly stabbing for real can be useful too, you have to be able to block quick though. At close range the stab can be near instant, while still doing damage if you turn it in right.
Might add some more if I can be arsed and learn new stuff myself, might also make a new post, might not do anything at all.
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Iv played Polearm since gen 2 (gen 8 now) and I use the poleaxe, iv never been anyother class since so heres a few of the things i do to get the advantage. Warnning small wall of text!
1) Find the build thats right for your style, im not sure what the most common polearm build is since i play as cav so I have a 18/21 build but i know that everyone has a build suited to how they fight for example I have 6 ath so i can move faster while on foot and can stab backwards and forwards faster where as someone else might have more PS then ath because they prefer to be up close to the enemy to do more damage, so best i can say is try different builds try all the suggested ones to see what suits you!!
2) use your weapons reach to your advantage and when i say this i dont mean buy a glave and just hold s since it you will probably run it to a wall at one point since you dont have eyes in the back of your head, what i mean is when you swing your weapon step forward then step back. so your weapon gets closer to the enemy when you sttep forward and you can safely move out of his swing range when you step back.
3) this is really important but most people dont say anything about it sadly, the key to having the perfect polearm experince is not only the build that makes you good with polearms but its your weapon!!! you have to find the weapon that you feel your the best with and sure you could just buy different ones and swing it about for a while and try and see but your weapon and build must work togeher! if you have the wrong build with the wrong weapon you wont get very far and you will find your self at the bottom of the bord very fast and very often. best thing i can suggest is that when you try different builds use the same weapon for a week or so to see how you do, although its only a game but personally and I dont know if anyone else is the same but for me when i was trying to find the right polearm by using different weapons most of them didnt "feel" right and its still the same when i retire thats why i hate retiring since every weapon i have got just doesnt feel right to me where as with my poleaxe its like i know everything about it and it just feel right holding it. yes it sounds weird but oh well, so make sure you find the right build and weapon and its all about what is best suited to you and what you feel is "right!"
4) finally although its awesome that so many people have replied to help you and im actually happy to see so many polearm players now since everyone seemed to be in a 2h LOL stabbing spree (but i guess since something happened to the stab people dont like it no more" but im sure that once you have got the right weapon and build you will find and make your own tactics, because although most of the people posting are vet polearm users at the end of the day this is what works for us! and it might not work for you but its always good to experiment and to try new things.
I hope you find whats right for you and what works and good luck!!!
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Iv played Polearm since gen 2 (gen 8 now) and I use the poleaxe, iv never been anyother class since so heres a few of the things i do to get the advantage. Warnning small wall of text!
1) Find the build thats right for your style, im not sure what the most common polearm build is since i play as cav so I have a 18/21 build but i know that everyone has a build suited to how they fight for example I have 6 ath so i can move faster while on foot and can stab backwards and forwards faster where as someone else might have more PS then ath because they prefer to be up close to the enemy to do more damage, so best i can say is try different builds try all the suggested ones to see what suits you!!
2) use your weapons reach to your advantage and when i say this i dont mean buy a glave and just hold s since it you will probably run it to a wall at one point since you dont have eyes in the back of your head, what i mean is when you swing your weapon step forward then step back. so your weapon gets closer to the enemy when you sttep forward and you can safely move out of his swing range when you step back.
3) this is really important but most people dont say anything about it sadly, the key to having the perfect polearm experince is not only the build that makes you good with polearms but its your weapon!!! you have to find the weapon that you feel your the best with and sure you could just buy different ones and swing it about for a while and try and see but your weapon and build must work togeher! if you have the wrong build with the wrong weapon you wont get very far and you will find your self at the bottom of the bord very fast and very often. best thing i can suggest is that when you try different builds use the same weapon for a week or so to see how you do, although its only a game but personally and I dont know if anyone else is the same but for me when i was trying to find the right polearm by using different weapons most of them didnt "feel" right and its still the same when i retire thats why i hate retiring since every weapon i have got just doesnt feel right to me where as with my poleaxe its like i know everything about it and it just feel right holding it. yes it sounds weird but oh well, so make sure you find the right build and weapon and its all about what is best suited to you and what you feel is "right!"
4) finally although its awesome that so many people have replied to help you and im actually happy to see so many polearm players now since everyone seemed to be in a 2h LOL stabbing spree (but i guess since something happened to the stab people dont like it no more" but im sure that once you have got the right weapon and build you will find and make your own tactics, because although most of the people posting are vet polearm users at the end of the day this is what works for us! and it might not work for you but its always good to experiment and to try new things.
I hope you find whats right for you and what works and good luck!!!
Too run-on, didn't read.
EDIT: I'm serious, I can't read run-on sentences.
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I need some advice...
Currently I'm going for a 15str/21agi build for my spear and shield with currently 7 ath and 5 shield and 5 wp.
I have two points left over, so should I go with 7 shield and be redunkulous with shield hardly breaking or should I go with 7 wp and try for a higher wpf.
Currently I have 143 wpf in pole arm so I don't know if putting more points into is going to raise it all that.
So what should I do?
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I need some advice...
Currently I'm going for a 15str/21agi build for my spear and shield with currently 7 ath and 5 shield and 5 wp.
I have two points left over, so should I go with 7 shield and be redunkulous with shield hardly breaking or should I go with 7 wp and try for a higher wpf.
Currently I have 143 wpf in pole arm so I don't know if putting more points into is going to raise it all that.
So what should I do?
first off if you dont have a 1h side arm then you will be easy to beat, second Id personally choose shield skill since your only stabbing you wont need to be super fast but you will need to have a reliable shield that wont break after a couple hits :)
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first off if you dont have a 1h side arm then you will be easy to beat, second Id personally choose shield skill since your only stabbing you wont need to be super fast but you will need to have a reliable shield that wont break after a couple hits :)
He doesn't need a side arm, though I agree with taking the shield skill. Honestly weaponmaster is kind of useless unless you're doing a hybrid build. If you get in a 1v1, just throw the shield on your back. The war spear would be best for this, but even with an ashwood pike you can do well 1v1.
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go for my build 16/24
5ps,8wm,8 athl. polearms 164points. Yes, axes are great for shields. Weapons you should use is glaive,great long axe,long war axe,german poleaxe...
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Level 30
24/15
69hp
8 conv
8PS
5IF
5ATHL
5WM
Poleaxe
The wpf is high enough that the break chance on the expensive poleaxe is extremely low, and thus you can wear great armour.
:shock: i am going to try this right now.
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Scratch everything that has been said earlier, use the Ashwood Pike. I'm doing better with the Ashwood Pike than I ever did with my MW German Greatsword or MW German poleaxe. And it's not even loomed and costs only 4.6k. I guess its not for everyone, but if you are good enough for it, its really a great weapon.
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its awesome with a shield too :D
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gayest weapon in the world. i hate that spam weapon.
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go for my build 16/24
5ps,8wm,8 athl. polearms 164points. Yes, axes are great for shields. Weapons you should use is glaive,great long axe,long war axe,german poleaxe...
15(16)/24 is the best build imo as well. Get 16str if you want a wider range of weapons to choose from.
You don't need more than 5PS when using high damage blunt/piercing polearms.
With 8 athletics you can choose your fights really well as you can outrun most people.
You can also fight versus several enemies at once and you have the best possible build for dueling.
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15(16)/24 is the best build imo as well. Get 16str if you want a wider range of weapons to choose from.
You don't need more than 5PS when using high damage blunt/piercing polearms.
With 8 athletics you can choose your fights really well as you can outrun most people.
You can also fight versus several enemies at once and you have the best possible build for dueling.
Hmm don't know. You dont have IF,and you are easy too kill 2-3 hits ad you are dead. 1 hit with with great maul and you are dead.
On the other hand 24/15 isn't that bad,but you can only be support,or attack group. Alone vs spamtana and agile shielders you have no chance.
They just come close to you,and you cant keep them at distance or outrun them and they spam you to death. Alone vs archers with no shield is also pain in the ass.
But on some maps others run from me,i was fucking tank,with glaive i was very,very fast. If you play as support char you will have great score with that build.