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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Aljo on December 21, 2011, 08:44:21 pm
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You guys have given the option to people with multiple game keys to transfer their money and looms from their alts to main char and I was thinking if you would be willing to do that for other players too.
I don't know if it's possible to open the marketplace for all the alts to join too, but if you could do that for like a few days, like a weekend or something, that wouldn't be too annoying (I know it would probably load waaay slower than usually, which is already pain in the ass).
The thing is, quite a few people have looms on their alts and sums of money which they could use.
But if the "opening" the market for alts isn't possible, You could still offer people transfer service for a limited time and a one time thing only.
I am sure it wouldn't be that hard for you guys but it would make alot of people very happy, including me.
I would appreciate if you guys couldconsider this, it's Christmas after all. :wink:
I know this sort of things has been suggested before but in the light of recent events with multiple keys I can see this thing can actually be done so I decided to give it a try.
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I still like the idea of an Alt Marketplace where alts just trade with other alts.
I got an alt with a loomed horse that i dont even use because that particular horse was nerfed badly, I cant even get rid of it.
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I still like the idea of an Alt Marketplace where alts just trade with other alts.
I got an alt with a loomed horse that i dont even use because that particular horse was nerfed badly, I cant even get rid of it.
I would prefer it if could transfer shit between my own chars. that would be pimp.
no need for actual marketplace, just between chars. dunno whats harder to implement though...
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Real good question why people can transfer stuff from their other account ID to their main and single person accounts can't
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Okay, from what I've read in some other threads, devs dont want this transfering to be like everyday occurence.
That is why they should allow us to at least have a chance to like delete an alt or something and take all the money and equipment it has.
EDIT: so to sum it up, if its only a one time thing you could do, there could be no abuse of this thingy.
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Gosh, how many times the forums seen this suggestion before? Million, zillion, babrabillion?
I mean, come on...you enjoyed your time on alt, you do enjoy your time on main, so keep playing them. If you want something loomed, either grind money to buy or loom yourself, if you loomed stuff on alt, you had way too much time on your hands anyways tbh.
Not like the looms will make you better player or something...
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Gosh, how many times the forums seen this suggestion before? Million, zillion, babrabillion?
I mean, come on...you enjoyed your time on alt, you do enjoy your time on main, so keep playing them. If you want something loomed, either grind money to buy or loom yourself, if you loomed stuff on alt, you had way too much time on your hands anyways tbh.
Not like the looms will make you better player or something...
I do not like playing my alt, your statement is based on predictions instead of facts.
I chose my shielder alt as my main so I could play strat and left my archer char as my alt because we didnt have market when we were introduced with main and alts, you know.
I never play with my alt but could use some money and looms I could sell.
But yeah, like you said, looms don't matter.
They are there for the kicks.
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I do not like playing my alt, your statement is based on predictions instead of facts.
I chose my shielder alt as my main so I could play strat and left my archer char as my alt because we didnt have market when we were introduced with main and alts, you know.
I never play with my alt but could use some money and looms I could sell.
But yeah, like you said, looms don't matter.
They are there for the kicks.
Well, why did you made it on the first place, if you do not enjoy playing it? 8-)
The point is, many ppl respecced or retired in order to be viable and useful for strat for their clans and whatnot, i do not see any reasoning why there should be some difference for others. If you want to play swordboarder on strat, respec and do it. You can always make STF to mess around in battle/siege, if you dont like to play the Main there. Or just switch clans or go lonewolf if someone forces you to play something you dont like. Simple as that :)
And also, there are some other things that imho need focus of the devs than ability to trade items to alt or from alt (and yeah, nothing more depressing than having loads of gold on one char and wanting to try out HA or some high upkeep stuff with STF...10k gold is way too low for decent HA gear, and if i wanted to grind money for upkeep, i could just lvl up the char...)
So, yeah, my points :) No offense or anything.
PS: also, why to choose shielder over archer for strat? :shock:
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ok, let me be clear on what I meant beacuse you are clearly missing the point.
I liked being archer. I had few chars back then but they were all gen1 except the archer char that was (is still) gen 6.
My clan needed some more shielders and because I enjoyed playing 1h too, I took my 1h char as my main- I thought I won't have use for my loomed bow and arrows as 1h, obviously.
now I hate playing archer and my 6gens of looms are wasted.
i GOT LOOMS ON MY ALT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON MY MAIN. HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO UNDERSTAND THAT?
Now, is this clear enough for you or do I have to explain anything else?
EDIT: sry for being so blunt (maybe insulting/impolite) but I could really use those looms right now and delete that useless alt
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Well, yeah, little harsh over there, but whatever...did you read what means making your char main? Why didnt you made the archer main, sold looms, let the money be kept by friend and make new shield char, yeah, you would have to start from scratch, but you would have your items :))
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Well, yeah, little harsh over there, but whatever...did you read what means making your char main? Why didnt you made the archer main, sold looms, let the money be kept by friend and make new shield char, yeah, you would have to start from scratch, but you would have your items :))
DUUUUUDE.
I wrote it down before, let me say it again- when I chose my main there was NO MARKET (YET).
I am not dumb, I would do that obviously if I could, but I had no idea they would implement that. Ever.
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DUUUUUDE.
I wrote it down before, let me say it again- when I chose my main there was NO MARKET (YET).
I am not dumb, I would do that obviously if I could, but I had no idea they would implement that. Ever.
Oh yea, sorry, my bad, have missed that out totally :(
Gief this poor guy his alts loom so i can stop looking like retard! :mrgreen:
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The question is not even about playing or not playing alt, like it or not, and time wasted (or not) but it's about fairness.
Why ppl with multi-account would have a favor that ppl with multi char didn't have.
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The question is not even about playing or not playing alt, like it or not, and time wasted (or not) but it's about fairness.
Why ppl with multi-account would have a favor that ppl with multi char didn't have.
Cause they had to buy more CD keys?
Anw, this multiaccount argument could be invalid, if we take into account the devs are trying to prevent several CDkeys being played from one IP or whatnot.
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you dudes are so funny :D
anyways, I'd like an option where peepz can exchange looms or whatever even from their alts, but there's the risk of abuse like always. there were tons of discussions like this, as someone mentioned above. the best solution would be, yes, a temporary opening of the market plus some extra restrictions, or imo an option to exchange looms for a fixed (high like usual) price between own chars. so if your main can't afford it, he can't get the loomed bow-or-sth from your alt - as easy as it is. different chars are different chars.
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you dudes are so funny :D
anyways, I'd like an option where peepz can exchange looms or whatever even from their alts, but there's the risk of abuse like always. there were tons of discussions like this, as someone mentioned above. the best solution would be, yes, a temporary opening of the market plus some extra restrictions, or imo an option to exchange looms for a fixed (high like usual) price between own chars. so if your main can't afford it, he can't get the loomed bow-or-sth from your alt - as easy as it is. different chars are different chars.
Would not be bad to have some stash as we had in Titan Quest, which is shared by all characters you have :) Even tho no idea how hard this could be to implement.
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or maybe!
... make it possible for all chars to trade on the marketplace, but never allow trading with own chars, how does that sound? (ok, abuse might be still possible around some other guys, but hey)
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It's not really like they "had" to buy more cd-key, it's more like they have more money than other to buy more cd-key.
And it's still a choice not an obligation.
Thus it's not fair fot ppl that have multi char (we can even say that they "had" to have several char to test and enjoy the mod ;))
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It's not really like they "had" to buy more cd-key, it's more like they have more money than other to buy more cd-key.
And it's still a choice not an obligation.
Thus it's not fair fot ppl that have multi char (we can even say that they "had" to have several char to test and enjoy the mod ;))
If someone paid twice for the game, why not? Not like you cannot do the same, is it? Some guys got more accounts purely for trying out STFs, some for whatever other reasons there might be. Still, it was your choice to stick to one cdkey. I am thinking hard to come with some good comparision for this...but meh, failing at it.
Anw, i am speaking as a guy who played SINGLE char for 18generations, made some alts in the process, mostly stf to try out different builds, but deleted them again, so i keep boosting the one and only char i love so much :mrgreen:
The problem is, people want to have everything for free. They want to try out new builds, but without losing XP by respeccing or even retiring.
A little derail over here, sorry.
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What you don't get Cepeshi is that people used multiple cd-keys to by pass the fact that you can't transfer stuff to you main from you alt.
And now devs are saying that it's not allowed yet they can still transfer one more time.
it's like saying to a rapist yea we know you're a rappist that's illegal now however since you didn't know it b4 you can have one more go at it. It's just make no sense.
While at the same time those who has chosen to righteous path can just stay righteous and get screwed.
It's alway the same thing with this mod abuse all you can while you can cuz you will get away with it and get out stronger from it.
Ofc If Devs would have answered the question some month ago when it poped up (many time) in the stragegus multikey ban thread thigs would be different now.
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What you don't get Cepeshi is that people used multiple cd-keys to by pass the fact that you can't transfer stuff to you main from you alt.
And now devs are saying that it's not allowed yet they can still transfer one more time.
it's like saying to a rapist yea we know you're a rappist that's illegal now however since you didn't know it b4 you can have one more go at it. It's just make no sense.
While at the same time those who has chosen to righteous path can just stay righteous and get screwed.
It's alway the same thing with this mod abuse all you can while you can cuz you will get away with it and get out stronger from it.
Ofc If Devs would have answered the question some month ago when it poped up (many time) in the stragegus multikey ban thread thigs would be different now.
Yeah, i did not get the point. So they bought more games, made chars and transferred stuff to them? Imho that is fine :mrgreen: But i am not the one who sets the rules. I am not spending much time in strat forums, so i dont know much that happened there :) The devs said its not allowed, but allowed the multiCDkeyers to move all to one acc or? Did i get this right?
(also sorry, on early shift, my english comprehension skills are getting wasted :))
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Yeah, i did not get the point. So they bought more games, made chars and transferred stuff to them? Imho that is fine :mrgreen: But i am not the one who sets the rules. I am not spending much time in strat forums, so i dont know much that happened there :) The devs said its not allowed, but allowed the multiCDkeyers to move all to one acc or? Did i get this right?
(also sorry, on early shift, my english comprehension skills are getting wasted :))
Well, I am not really familiar with what was happening in strategus honestly, but I know what I would have done if I had multiple ck keys and a corrupt mind.
You have 2 main chars that you register for strat.
You put both on making gold in city or something and u play with just one in battles; the other is used for gold digging only, or troop recruitment only- he is getting double the profit in all versions.
real hc cheating there.
and I must disagree with statement "if they have money to buy 2 keys, let them". some others dont have money and if they did buy 2, those with more money would buy 3 keys and so on. The devs are trying to separate this game from real money because it would lose its charm if they didnt.
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so, maybe a dev could answer to what I wrote, they want suggestions and then they dont even take a minute to read what it took some time for me to write and shortly reply.
A messed up perception of give-take you people have.
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All money should be on your account. Not on the different alts you have, combine it all. The looms are yours, So make it so you can switch your looms around to "YoUR' different alts you have. I have like 220k on my alt that i want on my main. Many people have a lot more that they worked their asses off for. So my 220k is useless on the market since only my main can go there. Making it so i can't combine my money and buy another loom. Pretty stupid
Fix it
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All money should be on your account. Not on the different alts you have, combine it all. The looms are yours, So make it so you can switch your looms around to "YoUR' different alts you have. I have like 220k on my alt that i want on my main. Many people have a lot more that they worked their asses off for. So my 220k is useless on the market since only my main can go there. Making it so i can't combine my money and buy another loom. Pretty stupid
Fix it
+1
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I love the ideo on an Alt marketplace
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added a poll, maybe helps
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If this happens I will start dozens of alts and farm 250 gold from all of them and then feign ignorance like I didn't know what I was doing was wrong.
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If this happens I will start dozens of alts and farm 250 gold from all of them and then feign ignorance like I didn't know what I was doing was wrong.
Read the name of the topic again.
Since you missed it the first time, I will help you find the catch so you don't write stupid stuff like that on this topic, mkay?
ONCE.
ONE TIME TRANSFER.
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Or maybe we could've circumvented the non-issue altogether and used our reading comprehension skills realizing that spending hours on an alt was going to end up with no direct benefit to our main.
Edit: I also just scrolled up a bit and noticed you support this:
All money should be on your account. Not on the different alts you have, combine it all. The looms are yours, So make it so you can switch your looms around to "YoUR' different alts you have. I have like 220k on my alt that i want on my main. Many people have a lot more that they worked their asses off for. So my 220k is useless on the market since only my main can go there. Making it so i can't combine my money and buy another loom. Pretty stupid
So you can effectively shut the hell up also, mkay?
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Or maybe we could've circumvented the non-issue altogether and used our reading comprehension skills realizing that spending hours on an alt was going to end up with no direct benefit to our main.
Edit: I also just scrolled up a bit and noticed you support this:
So you can effectively shut the hell up also, mkay?
Now are you mentally impaired or just playing dumb?
I support ANYTHING that would allow transfer of my looms on alt to my main.
But I prefer one time transfer only so there would be no abuse.
Now gtfo of this thread, we don't need shitheads like you stirring shit up.
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You can have all your gold from one alt, or a mw item (or a regular one because I'm retarded). Semantics are fun and discussions are better ad hominem.
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You can have all your gold from one alt, or a mw item (or a regular one because I'm retarded). Semantics are fun and discussions are better ad hominem.
You are what you do and your previous posts were not based on what this thread is about.
Get your facts straight before you post next time.