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Title: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 12:39:58 am
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The qualifying rounds will be held on 17.12.2011 and the finals on 18.12.2011.

Invited to come is everybody. But only clan members that will be able to form specified teams are allowed to participate in the event.

There will be multiple fights on one map among multiple clans. No need to negotiate with other clans where or when or on what map to meet. Everything will happen in three sessions (qualifiers group A, qualifiers group B, finals) - if you don't qualify to finals, you will fight on 1 session only, if you go to finals, you will fight 2 times. The finals will be on Sunday 18.12.20111 19:00 GMT[/i]

To avoid confusions, the current GMT time that the tournament uses as reference can be checked here (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/).

BASIC RULES
1 - Absolutely no fighting outside the ranked tournament fights, no jumping down the tribune, no suiciding or killing teammates to regain health (if you want to regain health, rejoin via spectator). No punching or kicking of other players!!!!
2 - Clan team size is 8 people, 1 clan can form only 1 clan team
3 - Maximum ammount of members of 1 clan logged at one time on the server is 15.
4 - The highest body armor you can take for the tournament is Coat of Plates (Any color)
5 - Maximum 2 ranged weapons / team (1 ranged weapon = 1 bow OR 1 xbow OR 1 stack of throwing weapons)
6 - No spawning on horse, only Tournament master can spawn on one. Always listen to the tournament master, never hit him back.
7 - Use the chat as little as possible, preferably only when the tournament masters ask you something. Spamming the chat will get you muted/kicked/banned and your team penalized.
8 - Server will be in CTF mode - if your team is called into the tournament fight you have to join the same faction as your clanmates. The first team called into the battle joins upper faction, the 2nd team called into the battle joins lower faction!
9 - Server will be passworded, the password will appear here: shield
10 - No siege equipment (siege shields, ladders, construction sites) allowed.
11 - No looting of any weapons from the ground during the fights (like retaking throwing weapons from the ground, shields etc...)
12 - Common sense
13 - Rules can be discussed and can change further on

PENALTIES
1 - For minor offenses there will be a warning first. This warning can be a written warning or a slash from the tournament master. If the tournament master slashes you it doesnt mean he wants to fight you, it means you are doing something wrong and you have to stop doing it. Keep doing it and you will get kicked. Come back and do it again and you will be banned and your team will be penalized.
2 - For major offenses like entering the arena when a battle is going on or killing the tournament master there will be no warning. Straight ban and your team will get penalized.
3 - If a team uses more ranged weapons than allowed, the fight outcome won't matter, their opponent will receive a 8:0 win.

TOURNAMENT SYSTEM
1 - This tournament will be based on the classic qualifying system of 8v8 fights.
2 - There will be 2 groups for the qualifiers A and B with 9 teams each. There will be 18 matches within each group, everyone will get to fight 4 times. After the qualifiers are over, the first 3 teams from each group go to the Finals.

- 2a The qualifiers will be split in two phases: In the first phase, the 9 teams will be split in groups of 3. These 3 groups all fight in between each other. In the second phase the highest scoring teams from each group will create a new group called A. The second highest scoring team from each group will create a new group called B. The remaining teams will create group C. Each of these groups (A,B and C) will then fight in between each other, and the three highest scoring teams from throughout the whole qualifying rounds will proceed to the finals. Furthermore, advancing to group A awards a team with 4 points. Advancing to group B awards 2 points. Advancing to group C does not give any points. This is to discourage intentional loosing to get in a weaker group. 

3-  For every killed enemy your clan gets 1 point. So the winner will always get 8 points, the loser can get max 7 points.
4 - If during the qualifiers there are 2 teams with equal number of points, their places will be set by best of three 1vs1 DUELS between 2 of their members.
5 - There will be another 6 team group for the Finals. The system used here will be the same as qualifiers, 8vs8 fights but every match will be fought twice. There will be a 15 match session where everybody fights 5 times, a short break while I will do the math and announce the partial results, than the first 15 match session is repeated. Everybody will get to fight 10 times.
6 - If under any circumstances your clan fights with lower amount of people, your missing teammates are considered as killed (other team will get points just like for killing them).

INSTRUCTIONS
1 - When your names are called you will join the appropiate faction - first team joins upper faction, second team joins lower faction and enter the arena. You will not start fighting untill the tournament master gives you the start.
2 - After calling the current fight I will announce the next fight as well. People who fight next must join the appropiate faction and gather at the arena gate so they are ready to enter the arena when called. This way everything will go a lot quicker and everybody will wait less between fights.
4 - The survivors will need to line up to be counted before leaving the arena. Leaving the arena or switching to spectator before I annouce the result means you are considered killed and your enemies get more points.

REGISTRATIONS
1 - There are 18 slots + substitutes available.
2 - Register your clan by applying in this thread - do not PM me, if you have a question, ask here so others can see the answer and don't have to ask the same thing again. Registrations are opened until Thursday, than the Groups will be decided.
3 - For registering: include clan name and visual style (visual style goes only to body armors while Coat of Plates is the highest you can take, other armor is free of choice. You can't register with the same visual style as the other clans, except for heraldic armors)
4 - When you register, include also the time you want to fight the qualifiers or include that you can fight on both times. There are 2 qualifiers both of them at the same day: Saturday 17th . The 1st qualify round is at 17:00 GMT the 2nd qualify round is at 19:00 GMT.
5 - It is still possible to apply to the tournament and still not be allowed to participate. This can happen if you apply late when many clans will be already registered before you and/or if you apply for the same time like majority of the other clans - thus it won't be possible to find a spot for you in the qualifying group. To prevent this: either apply quickly or make sure you can fight on both times. If you will be able to fight on both times it is highly probable that you will make it into the tournament (same goes for early applications as these have priority over those that apply late).

Thanks alot to Beau for help with organizing this so far.

DISCLAIMER!: Since Strategus is live these days there could be issues with major strat battles, and as such the tournament can be cancelled one of the last days :(. Lets just hope its gonna be a quiet weekend in strat :).

More updates might come in later posts from me.

Clans signed up:
Fallen Brigade (Visual style: Black Coat of Plates)19 GMT+0
Bandits (Visual style: Brigandine) 17 GMT+0
Merciless (Visual style: Rus Scale Armor) 19 GMT+0
Guards (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 19 GMT+0
Templars (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 17 GMT+0
Antarians (Visual style: Haubergons) 17 GMT+0
Bashibazouks (Visual style: Mamluke Mail) 19 GMT+0
Great Khans (Visual style: Sarranid Guard Armor) 19:00 GMT+0
Byzantium (Visual style: Cuir Bouili over Mail) 19:00 GMT+0
Nordmen (Visual style: Brown Rus Lamellar Cuirass) 17 GMT+0
Grey Order (Visual style: Light Kuyak) 17 GMT+0
Inglorious Bastards (Visual style: Banded Armor) 17 GMT+0
22nd Battalion (Visual style: Heavy Kuyak) 19 GMT+0
Gardrika (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 17 GMT+0
SoA (Visual style: Heraldic Mail with Tabard) 19 GMT+0
Wolves Pack Mercenaries (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 19 GMT+0
Mercenaries (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 17 GMT+0
Ruconquista (Visual style: Lamellar Armor) 17 GMT+0

SUBSTITUTES:

Brothers in Arms (Visual style: Studded Leather over Mail) 17 GMT+0
Kapikulu (Visual style: Coat of Plates(Red)) 19 GMT+0
Holy Roman Empire (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 19 GMT+0
Strangers (Visual style: Green Rus Lamellar Cuirass) 17 GMT+0


Important update!
Since the DRZ is attacking Mercs in the middle of the tournament I have been forced to move the times of the qualifiers. First qualifier is at 16:00 GMT+0, and the second is at 21:00 GMT+0 All clans are requested to confirm they're gonna make it for the tourney.

Clans who have confirmed they're gonna fight at 16:00 GMT+0
Gardrika
Bashibazouks
Nordmen
Inglourious
Antarians
Bandits
Templars


Clans that have confirmed they're gonna fight at 21:00 GMT+0
Byzantium
Grey Order
SoA
22nd Battalion
Great Khans
Wolves
Fallen Brigade


Substitutes:
Kapikulu (21:00 GMT)
Brothers in Arms (16:00 GMT+0)
Strangers (16:00 GMT+0)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 12, 2011, 01:10:33 am
Fuck yeah! Cant wait, the most fun i had in crpg.  8-)

Big props to the organizers, LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dom.Miguel on December 12, 2011, 01:14:41 am
Winner gets Strat gold? Get a strat gold entrance fee winner takes all
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 12, 2011, 08:20:59 am
Bandits (Brigandine, 17.00).

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 12, 2011, 01:47:29 pm
Merciless (Rus Scale Armor, 19.00 GMT+0)

We will assemble a team for this, thanks a lot for organization.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tristan on December 12, 2011, 01:53:24 pm
Guards (Heraldic mails)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on December 12, 2011, 02:08:49 pm
HMM INTERRRESTING...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 02:37:31 pm
Bandits (Brigandine, 17.00).

(click to show/hide)

Added.

Merciless (Rus Scale Armor, 19.00 GMT+0)

We will assemble a team for this, thanks a lot for organization.


Added

Guards (Heraldic mails)

Added, but you need to specify time.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BadLoR on December 12, 2011, 02:41:34 pm
Grey Order (heavy kuyak) 17:00

Btw ranged players have to wear the same armor like the rest?Or maybe can they wear something lighter?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on December 12, 2011, 03:05:44 pm
Bandits (Brigandine, 17.00).

(click to show/hide)

wow two good news in one thread, gl with tournament fallens and with bandits gnjus
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Casimir on December 12, 2011, 03:54:14 pm
Templar (Heraldic Mail)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 12, 2011, 03:55:20 pm
Fuck yeah! Cant wait, the most fun i had in crpg.  8-)

Big props to the organizers, LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 12, 2011, 03:56:44 pm
wow two good news in one thread, gl with tournament fallens and with bandits gnjus

Thx Chaggy.  :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 12, 2011, 04:02:32 pm
Bandits (Brigandine, 17.00).

(click to show/hide)

jesu banditi opet aktivni, dali bi se isplatilo mozhda opet prec u bandite, hmm?
tell me o mighty Gnjus...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RandomDude on December 12, 2011, 04:09:04 pm
Ahh Antarians (Haubergeon) are applying!!! We need to practice hard though. 17:00 GMT is best for now i think.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 12, 2011, 04:12:29 pm
Yes! been waiting for the return of these tournaments for so long. It was the best competitive tournament in my opinion. And it was a great deal of fun. :)

Ty for putting this together Ramses and beau
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Cicero on December 12, 2011, 04:17:24 pm
Nice to see , BashiBazouk is waiting to not loose their UNDEFEATED CLAIM

Mamluke Mail 19:00 GMT
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on December 12, 2011, 04:24:26 pm
Great Khans (Sarranid guard armor) hour not sure yet
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Lars on December 12, 2011, 04:24:59 pm
Props to you for organizing the tournament, my only complaint is this rule:

"For every killed enemy your clan gets 1 point. So the winner will always get 8 points, the loser can get max 7 points"

Could you please adopt the scoring system used by former Shogunate in their tournament?  Imo kills shouldn't count, a team should be rewarded only winning a round.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Hideyoshi on December 12, 2011, 04:38:07 pm
Byzantium (Cuir Bouilli over Mail) 19:00 GMT
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 12, 2011, 04:50:19 pm
Props to you for organizing the tournament, my only complaint is this rule:

"For every killed enemy your clan gets 1 point. So the winner will always get 8 points, the loser can get max 7 points"

Could you please adopt the scoring system used by former Shogunate in their tournament?  Imo kills shouldn't count, a team should be rewarded only winning a round.

So you don't have ties in a tournament.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tristan on December 12, 2011, 04:59:14 pm
19.00 for the Guards. (Still heraldic mails).

Do we have specify helmets?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 12, 2011, 05:03:30 pm
Nordmen, 1700/1900, Brown Rus Lamellar Cuirass
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Cicero on December 12, 2011, 05:39:59 pm
We are searching for a clan for training.If you are insterested p.m
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 06:32:07 pm
Templar (Heraldic Mail)

Added, but you need to specify time.

Ahh Antarians (Haubergeon) are applying!!! We need to practice hard though. 17:00 GMT is best for now i think.

Added.

Nice to see , BashiBazouk is waiting to not loose their UNDEFEATED CLAIM

Mamluke Mail 19:00 GMT

Added

Great Khans (Sarranid guard armor) hour not sure yet

Added

Byzantium (Cuir Bouilli over Mail) 19:00 GMT

Adding (Shit theres alot)

19.00 for the Guards. (Still heraldic mails).

Do we have specify helmets?

19.00 for guards then.

No, you can use any helmet you'd like.

Nordmen, 1700/1900, Brown Rus Lamellar Cuirass

Adding

On a side note: Beauchamp made the title banner!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Leshma on December 12, 2011, 06:49:44 pm
Quote
4 - The highest body armor you can take for the tournament is Coat of Plates (Any color)

Is loomed armor allowed?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: HarunYahya on December 12, 2011, 06:58:35 pm
Is loomed armor allowed?
If its not allowed how do you think that they'll enforce this rule ?
If you can't enforce a rule , there is no rule that's the motto therefore it's allowed !  :twisted:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dezilagel on December 12, 2011, 07:11:15 pm
Just fuck looms altogether, seriously.

Think nonloomed vs fully loomed ranged "shrugs".

I thought not using looms was obvious  :|
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 07:17:31 pm
Yes, loomed armor is allowed. (Although I do not endorse it)

Props to you for organizing the tournament, my only complaint is this rule:

"For every killed enemy your clan gets 1 point. So the winner will always get 8 points, the loser can get max 7 points"

Could you please adopt the scoring system used by former Shogunate in their tournament?  Imo kills shouldn't count, a team should be rewarded only winning a round.

Imo kills should count. This is to make clans fight to the bitter end, and to make a close defeat matter more than total annihilation. This does also prevent ties a lot.

Just fuck looms altogether, seriously.

Think nonloomed vs fully loomed ranged "shrugs".

I thought not using looms was obvious  :|

Unfortunately I can't police the use of loomed items, and therefore its allowed. I just encourage clans to not try and pick an armor they have all loomed, but more try to use something that fits with their visual style.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dezilagel on December 12, 2011, 07:19:15 pm
Unfortunately I can't police the use of loomed items, and therefore its allowed. I just encourage clans to not try and pick an armor they have all loomed, but more try to use something that fits with their visual style.

Well armor I guess not, but weapons is a quick, easy check. (Mostly thinking about the +6 ranged here again)

Also, why not add as a policy that people should use nonloomed items?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 07:25:31 pm
I can't check peoples weapons during the tourney - we need to keep things going and not stall. Furthermore, I don't think the use of masterworked weapons is just as great as the use of mass loomed armors (Loomed body, head, hand and leg armor). You can argue xbows and archers can get bigger bonuses, but I still find those factors small since there can be a max of 2 ranged in a team.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 07:31:42 pm
Grey Order (light kuyak & heavy kuyak) 17:00

Btw ranged players have to wear the same armor like the rest?Or maybe can they wear something lighter?

Sorry for missing this post. You're added. However you need to specify armor.

And no, it is not necessary for ranged to wear the same armor, but getting something that fits with the general style (For you I would guess Pilgrim outfit) is good.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 12, 2011, 08:00:05 pm
Inglorious Basterds 19:00 Cuir Bouilli Over Mail
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 08:03:28 pm
Inglorious Basterds 19:00 Cuir Bouilli Over Mail

Added, but you need to take a different armor. Byzantium reserved the one you applied with before you.

EDIT: Only two more spots for the fights at 19:00 GMT+0, while still plenty of slots for the fights earlier. If possible, sign up for the early qualifying round. (This was a message to everyone)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: josh on December 12, 2011, 08:11:30 pm
Sign SoA up ;)
"We are back and kicking ;D"
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Phyrex on December 12, 2011, 08:18:47 pm
22nd Battalion - Heavy Kuyak - 19 GMT preferably.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 12, 2011, 08:19:25 pm
Added, but you need to take a different armor. Byzantium reserved the one you applied with before you.

Banded it is then
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BadLoR on December 12, 2011, 08:23:11 pm
So heavy kuyak then if we cant select both
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 08:27:19 pm
Sign SoA up ;)
"We are back and kicking ;D"

Time and visual style? Won't add you before you get that.

22nd Battalion - Heavy Kuyak - 19 GMT preferably.

Adding


So heavy kuyak then if we cant select both

22nd Battalion just beat you to it, you want light instead?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 12, 2011, 08:38:54 pm
22nd Battalion
we have a winner!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 12, 2011, 08:41:54 pm
we have a winner!  :rolleyes:

That's not how tournaments work.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BadLoR on December 12, 2011, 08:47:49 pm
 
Quote
22nd Battalion just beat you to it, you want light instead?

yep
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 12, 2011, 08:50:49 pm
That's not how tournaments work.
This guys wins every Fallen tournament in which they participated. :) And they all damn native C.Norrises who plays since beta.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Phyrex on December 12, 2011, 08:53:36 pm
We've only participated in one, lol.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 12, 2011, 09:06:42 pm
Gardarika - 17GMT Armor will be choosen later
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 12, 2011, 09:16:18 pm
This guys wins every Fallen tournament in which they participated. :) And they all damn native C.Norrises who plays since beta.

They were in one, but other clans have been in more... and won most of em. ;)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dezilagel on December 12, 2011, 09:21:05 pm
Well, armor looms are nerfed and melee weapon looms I don't care that much about (even though I do think that in the sense of fair play, you shouldn't bring looms but whatever).

What I do have a problem with though is +3 bows and arrows, since PD scaling + double the amount of looms make them so hugely advantageous compared to stock ones.

EDIT: Bah, I shouldn't post when I'm tired...

Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on December 12, 2011, 09:27:17 pm
Time and visual style? Won't add you before you get that.


19 GMT+0 and heraldic mail with tabbard if you please =)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 12, 2011, 09:31:34 pm
Gardarika - 17GMT Armor will be choosen later
since we would use mostly STF-chars we don't care much about armor  :wink:

P.S. If it necessary - Heraldic mail.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 10:10:02 pm
Gardarika - 17GMT Armor will be choosen later

Added with Heraldic Mail.

However there are no more slots left for registration, so the SoA will be substitute for now. I strongly recommend you to prepare for the tourney anyway, since it has been proven in previous tournaments that substitutes gets to play. Furthermore, with strategus on the chances of a clan signing out late is even bigger

There is now only one slot left for substitutes!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: LordSnow on December 12, 2011, 10:25:28 pm
Wolves Pack Mercenaries with Heavy/light kuyak. As subtitute..
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 12, 2011, 10:46:05 pm
OUTDATED: Look on the OP or the 9th page.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 13, 2011, 12:00:08 am
Nordmen would like to change their timeslot to 1700 instead of both, if possible.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 13, 2011, 12:07:18 am
It will be great to fight in this tourney, promises a lot.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Casimir on December 13, 2011, 12:07:37 am
Templars would also request to change their time to 17:00, although we have no real concern over time slot.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 12:12:26 am
Having Templars and Nordmen fight at 17 GMT+0 fits perfectly - I'll edit that.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Noctivagant on December 13, 2011, 02:04:30 am
Sign us up, I'll update the time and the gear
Cheers, I've been asking for this for a long time.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: HarunYahya on December 13, 2011, 02:08:34 am
Sign us up, I'll update the time and the gear
Cheers, I've been asking for this for a long time.
Added as substitute - however both Heavy and Light Kuyaks are not available, choose another.

No more slots!, the registrations are as follows:

Fallen Brigade (Visual style: Black Coat of Plates) 17 or 19 GMT+0
Bandits (Visual style: Brigandine) 17 GMT+0
Merciless (Visual style: Rus Scale Armor) 19 GMT+0
Guards (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 19 GMT+0
Templars (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) Unknown time
Antarians (Visual style: Haubergons) 17 GMT+0
Bashibazouks (Visual style: Mamluke Mail) 19 GMT+0
Great Khans (Visual style: Sarranid Guard Armor) Unknown time
Byzantium (Visual style: Cuir Bouili over Mail) 19:00 GMT+0
Nordmen (Visual style: Brown Rus Lamellar Cuirass) 17 or 19 GMT+0
Grey Order (Visual style: Light Kuyak) 17 GMT+0
Inglorious Bastards (Visual style: Banded Armor) 19 GMT+0
22nd Battalion (Visual style: Heavy Kuyak) 19 GMT+0
Gardrika (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 17 GMT+0

Substitutes

SoA (Visual style: Heraldic Mail with Tabard) 19 GMT+0
Wolves Pack Mercenaries (Visual style: Unknown)
Timing fail !
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Xant on December 13, 2011, 03:39:56 am
Would it be possible to make room for 3 more clans so that SoA, Wolves and Mercs can play? Would make the tournament more interesting.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 13, 2011, 03:42:59 am
Would it be possible to make room for 3 more clans so that SoA, Wolves and Mercs can play? Would make the tournament more interesting.

This would be grand.
Also if I remember correctly, the arena we fight in is pretty small isnt it? Should make it bigger, maybe 1.5 in size, to allow for some actual movement and not just head on clashes.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 13, 2011, 08:49:56 am
This would be grand.
Also if I remember correctly, the arena we fight in is pretty small isnt it? Should make it bigger, maybe 1.5 in size, to allow for some actual movement and not just head on clashes.

I prefer the map that fallen made themselves the arena that was also used in the 3x5 vs 3x5.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Cicero on December 13, 2011, 09:04:44 am
This would be grand.
Also if I remember correctly, the arena we fight in is pretty small isnt it? Should make it bigger, maybe 1.5 in size, to allow for some actual movement and not just head on clashes.
actually making a bigger map will change the tournament to archer fest which i dont want exactly.The map that fallen used is really good for both infantry and archer manuevering
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 13, 2011, 12:54:13 pm
I'm gonna go ahead and ask for a clarification on something, because one thing in the rules strikes me as very silly:

5 - Maximum 2 ranged weapons / team (1 ranged weapon = 1 bow OR 1 xbow OR 1 stack of throwing weapons)

Surely you can't actually mean one stack of throwing weapons, but rather one person using throwing weapons.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Harpag on December 13, 2011, 01:22:19 pm
Would it be possible to make room for 3 more clans so that SoA, Wolves and Mercs can play? Would make the tournament more interesting.

+1 ...if possible from an organizational point of view...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 13, 2011, 01:42:32 pm

Surely you can't actually mean one stack of throwing weapons, but rather one person using throwing weapons.

They mean what is written down, in the previous tournaments the rule was 1 ranged counts as 2 stacks of throwing weps or something like that. So if you have 4 stacks of throwing you cant have any more ranged weapons. Now its even more strict i see: 2 stacks count as all of your range. It should be 2 stacks per ranged not 1 stack
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 01:51:46 pm
Would it be possible to make room for 3 more clans so that SoA, Wolves and Mercs can play? Would make the tournament more interesting.

Ehmm... Not right now, but I'll see if i can figure out something. It sure would be great to have all of them in.

As to Okins question: Yes, one stack of throwing weapons count as one ranged. So it is possible to have both your ranged slots used on one guy with two stacks of throwing weapons.

Let me also remind you that:

3 - If a team uses more ranged weapons than allowed, the fight outcome won't matter, their opponent will receive a 8:0 win.

This is because of throwings much stronger nature in close melee. A crossbowman or archer can not get many shots of in a close melee,  and both are sacrificing a lot to be able to shoot anything at all. Throwers, on the other hand, can get a lot of very damaging hits in a much shorter timespace, and as such need to be further limited. Otherwise you might see a team with 4+ throwing lances, which is gamebreaking IMO.

However, if a clear majority thinks it is better to change the rules so that we change it to either 2 stacks of ranged weapons counts as one ranged weapon slot or one person using throwing counts as one ranged weapon slot, I'll change the rule on this.

Making a poll :)


As to map: I'm still unsure on what map to use, and I've not even been able to contact the server administrator O.O
However Chagan offered me to use their map, which seems like a likely candidate for now. The fighting would ofc be in the melee arena of the map. here's a picture: (Don't know how to resize, you'll have to live with this)

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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 13, 2011, 01:58:49 pm
I dunno, I just think it's nuts. Chances are it won't be an issue because a squad can get more mileage out of an archer anyway, but I really don't agree with your assessment. Imposing this kind of limit on their ammo is about the same as banning them altogether, especially when you've already forbidden scavenging. Nobody in their right mind is going to use throwing under these circumstances.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Vibe on December 13, 2011, 02:03:24 pm
Probably best to ban throwing completely  8-)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 02:04:12 pm
Not In my opinion. Calling my rules nuts won't help you Okin, we just disagree and that's it.

Some teams have not used any ranged at all in some tournaments, still with great success. One possible way of using throwing is with a hybrid I'd say. But if you disagree on the effectiveness of throwers, just don't bring any. 
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 13, 2011, 02:06:44 pm
Up to you I guess, but I'm entitled to think it's nuts. Deal with it. :lol:

Also, on the GK map, it's kind of hard to make out the scale, but it looks to me like the melee arena is just a tiny square surrounded by a pit? It doesn't look like there's any room to maneuver at all, only thing to do is charge into a straight-up slugfest. Seems a bit boring, honestly the spawn area looks like a more attractive place to fight; a rectangle is definitely better than a square when you're supposed to have a team at both ends.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 13, 2011, 02:11:53 pm
If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts, not fair for the ranged guy to have only one pack of throwing when an archer has like three pack of arrows or an xbow man has two packs of bolts...

...imo.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 13, 2011, 02:13:03 pm
If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts...
..imo.

You're too stoned to be writing on forums, just sit back, roll another one and enjoy the silence.....  :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 02:14:19 pm
I agree the melee arena looks small, but there one side of it you can't see and I need to test out the actual size of the map myself. We also need to make sure people won't lag on it (By it being too large).

It's just the only submission we're having so far. I'll try to contact Beau and see if has any of his old maps lying around. Otherwise I might need a mapmaker :P

If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts...
..imo.

Do you honestly expect any xbowman to use 12 bolts or any archer using 15 arrows?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 13, 2011, 02:15:48 pm
Do you honestly expect any xbowman to use 12 bolts or any archer using 15 arrows?

...dont expect nothing from that ranged scum just saying, o and fuck u mr. Gnjus rolling a fatty as we speak... :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 13, 2011, 02:17:31 pm
Do you honestly expect any xbowman to use 12 bolts or any archer using 15 arrows?

Forgive him, oh lord, because he knows not what he's saying - he didn't really take part in any Fallen Tournaments so far and even if he did he was too stoned to remember how it was.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 13, 2011, 02:19:55 pm
If one ranged slot is one stack of throwing then an archer should have only one pack of arrows and a xbow man should have only one pack of bolts, not fair for the ranged guy to have only one pack of throwing when an archer has like three pack of arrows or an xbow man has two packs of bolts...

...imo.

The thing is, even if you do that, hybrid archers/xbows will be able to use 2slot ranged weapons with one ammo and a melee backup, or 1slot ranged weapons with one ammo and a 2slot backup. As Ramses pointed out, they're likely to do this anyway because they probably won't even shoot out a full stack. However, unless a thrower uses a 3slot weapon (extremely unlikely) or a 2slot shield with a one-hander (also unlikely), he'll be forced to waste a slot that would normally be used for more throwing weapons. It's a huge handicap, and the no-scavenge rule turns it into a much bigger one.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 13, 2011, 02:20:02 pm
Forgive him, oh lord, because he knows not what he's saying - he didn't really take part in any Fallen Tournaments so far and even if he did he was too stoned to remember how it was.

ajde popusi ga malo, sudjeloval sam vec u 2 ili 3 turnira i ovo kaj sam napisal ima smisla, zakaj me ismijavas, trebal bi bit podrska pederu Gnjusavi...  :twisted:

 :wink:

...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Bushido on December 13, 2011, 02:22:16 pm
I'm honored to introduce you RuConquista team. We will participate in Lamellar Armor. Hope that will be a good fight.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 13, 2011, 02:23:15 pm
ajde popusi ga malo, sudjeloval sam vec u 2 ili 3 turnira i ovo kaj sam napisal ima smisla, zakaj me ismijavas, trebal bi bit podrska pederu Gnjusavi...  :wink:

...

Jeboga pas pa kakve veze imaju njihovi stackovi municije kad ionak ne ispucaju ni pola, ne bu tu puno pucanja bilo, archeri i crossbowmeni su poprilično beskorisni u toj maloj areni, to smo iz prve ruke isprobali zadnji put.  Bolje da uzme 3 stacka strijela nego neko bolje oruzje, strijele ne bu ispuco a oruzje ce bome stic izvadit i odpilit ti glavu s njim. :wink:

Što se ismijavanja tiče - nije da sam puno lagao.  :twisted:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Teeth on December 13, 2011, 02:23:57 pm
Dislike that map, there have been others used in the past that were much better. I'm not sure if I see that right but the melee area in the GK map is ridiculously small. Didn't expect anything else from GK  :P.

Although I voted one throwing person counts as 1, Ramses arguments made me doubt my vote. What I remember from these tournaments is that ranged doesn't have all that much time to skirmish. So a thrower, throwing 2 stacks of throwing weapons will probably deal as much damage as a crossbowman or an archer, while probably doing a lot better in melee.

I'm honored to introduce you RuConquista team. We will participate in Lamellar Armor. Hope that will be a good fight.
Tourney is full man. You are the 18th singup in a tournament with 14 spots.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 13, 2011, 02:27:36 pm
Still waiting for the final word for Ramses on whether or not he can work in the extra clans.

As for the throwing, don't forget that skill investments in that also hugely decrease your melee effectiveness. A hybrid archer might be just as good in melee as a thrower.

For the record, I'm not lobbying on behalf of my clan or anything, I don't think we're likely to have any throwers on our squad either way. I just don't like the rule.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 13, 2011, 02:29:51 pm
Što se ismijavanja tiče - nije da sam puno lagao.  :twisted:

Bad Gnjus, bad...  :twisted:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 02:34:40 pm
I'm honored to introduce you RuConquista team. We will participate in Lamellar Armor. Hope that will be a good fight.

I'll try my best to make the tourney 18 teams now  :?

Forgive him, oh lord, because he knows not what he's saying - he didn't really take part in any Fallen Tournaments so far and even if he did he was too stoned to remember how it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk)

This was one of the most archer and xbow heavy matches in that tourney (Number 5), and none of the archers or xbowmen used up all their bolts.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Teeth on December 13, 2011, 02:37:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk)
Any chances on retrieving this map? That one was good.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 13, 2011, 02:45:32 pm
Just dont allow ranged in the tournament then and thats it...

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dezilagel on December 13, 2011, 02:50:53 pm
imb4 100 + pierce dmg archers.

Seriously, just disallow ranged looms at least.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Vibe on December 13, 2011, 02:54:12 pm
Seriously, just disallow ranged looms at least.

Would be quite hard to control that.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 02:54:39 pm
Any chances on retrieving this map? That one was good.

Beau made it, so I hope to get it back.

I'll not disallow ranged and I'll not disallow ranged looms for this tourney - that's final.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 13, 2011, 03:00:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk)

This was one of the most archer and xbow heavy matches in that tourney (Number 5), and none of the archers or xbowmen used up all their bolts.

Also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgX0E4yA2PI&feature=related   :twisted:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 03:03:53 pm
Also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgX0E4yA2PI&feature=related   :twisted:

Alright, you get the one-time bragging right for this one ;) (Bloody bad tk there)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Teeth on December 13, 2011, 03:17:28 pm
Also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgX0E4yA2PI&feature=related   :twisted:
This!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ntQtZ2Cb0&feature=related#t=01m04s

I rofled my ass off when we did that. Especially the huge carnage that followed.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 13, 2011, 03:37:12 pm
Also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgX0E4yA2PI&feature=related   :twisted:

Aaaaawwww my old Red tournament helmet and wooden mallet and my baby danish. Good times  :D
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 13, 2011, 04:19:05 pm
By the way, bit off-topic but...

Don't worry, our clan thread will be up later today.

We're still waiting!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 13, 2011, 04:22:08 pm
By the way, bit off-topic but...

We're still waiting!

Technical problems, blame our main technician John Mocker.  :wink:

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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Bushido on December 13, 2011, 04:38:36 pm
also comfortable gmt time for us is 17.00
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on December 13, 2011, 05:05:06 pm
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and here is a quick video of the arena http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7bgDgp2jg

and if it would be true that the fighting platform is too small for 8vs8 (i thought of 1vs1 up to 4vs4 for it) i could make it a little bit bigger, but the idea for it was that good inf players should know how to hold their ground and not fall of it to their deaths ;p and pushing the enemy team from the platform i think could create some memorable moments (300 comes to mind ^^)

anyway your choice
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 13, 2011, 05:10:21 pm
Yeah, I figured it looked about right for a duel arena. For matches like this you need a proper space where you can maneuver and jockey for a better position, this definitely looks too small.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 13, 2011, 05:17:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXHk2RUrk)

I have a bad memory, forget about the arena size increase suggestion  8-) - this looks pretty nice for the size.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Teeth on December 13, 2011, 05:21:12 pm
not fall of it to their deaths ;p
Oh please noooo! My biggest weakness. I'm horrible at heights. I always forget them midfight and drop to my dead.

I say get that map from Beauchamp, its good with room for spectators.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 13, 2011, 05:28:20 pm
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and here is a quick video of the arena http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7bgDgp2jg

and if it would be true that the fighting platform is too small for 8vs8 (i thought of 1vs1 up to 4vs4 for it) i could make it a little bit bigger, but the idea for it was that good inf players should know how to hold their ground and not fall of it to their deaths ;p and pushing the enemy team from the platform i think could create some memorable moments (300 comes to mind ^^)

anyway your choice

Oh man there is soooooo much stuff on that map, i just hope it wont lag
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Cicero on December 13, 2011, 05:32:56 pm
1)impossible to fight in that map
2)1 stacks=1 ranged slots good balance and +1 to ramses
If you are archer you need to stay behind the shieldwall or need to flank with some people and if enemy gonna charge probably you will hit 1 or 2 times.
If you are xbowman u cant reload if you dont have cover otherwise enemy archer will hit you although you can reload behind the shieldwall when enemy charges directly xbowman means=2shoots in all match which is maximum.
Throwing totaly different ,you can join charge and throw your shit to enemy's best player and at least you can give damageor stun.
3)where is bandit thread?
4)i demand kicking them !
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 13, 2011, 05:34:33 pm
Waiting for Gazda to put it all together, it wont dissapoint you when its done i promise  :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 06:23:22 pm
First off, map: That map definately looks too small, and if you've planned it for 1v1 or 4v4s we need another. I've contacted Beau and he seems to still have at least one of his old maps. Once i find a server I'll test it and see if its big enough. There's probably no need for you to work on your current map or a new map Chagan. Thanks for the offer anyway.

Second, tournament system: After brainwashing with Beau we've come up with a system to properly adjust for the number of teams. It'll take some time for me to make edit the OP properly, but the teams that were too late( SoA, Wolves, Mercs and Ruconquista) can now count themselves as attending to the tournament.

This also means there's room for more substitutes, and I cannot stress enough how important it is we get a few of these. With this high number of attending clans the chances of a clan to sign out late is even bigger.

Finally, get that thread done Bandits ;)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Cicero on December 13, 2011, 06:28:10 pm
For map , i think field by river is also good enough like you used before the fence never the spawn ( not bigger one )
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Teeth on December 13, 2011, 07:39:12 pm
Yeah it shouldn't be that hard to do it on field by the river for instance, two fenced farm areas in there. Just demand from clan leaders that they keep their sheep under control, otherwise punish the whole clan score wise.

Or let someone quickly put a map together. It doesn't have to be pretty. Just a walled arena, with preferably room for spectators on the wall.

Substitutes might be a problem. if clans haven't signed up by now, they might not sign up at all. Maybe the last two sign ups should be kept as substitutes, if ending up with 16 or 17 clans with an 18 clan structure is a problem.

Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: serr on December 13, 2011, 08:00:19 pm
Brothers in Arms (Studded Leather over Mail, 17.00)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 13, 2011, 08:11:55 pm
This!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ntQtZ2Cb0&feature=related#t=01m04s

I rofled my ass off when we did that. Especially the huge carnage that followed.

Those were the only kills they got on the whole tournament.  :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Teeth on December 13, 2011, 09:49:57 pm
Those were the only kills they got on the whole tournament.  :wink:
Lies and slander. I killed one of you in that very match. But yeah Ninja clan isnt suited for these tournaments, or competing anyway. Anyway we had a lot of fun, which is count.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnVOaxslbyA#t=00m35s PROOOOF. Lol my 12/27 96 speed long hafted blade build was so spammable.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 13, 2011, 10:12:01 pm
I HAVE REORGANIZED THE SYSTEM FOR THE QUALIFYING ROUNDS

This means a total of 18 clans can join in.

These are the registered clans:

Fallen Brigade (Visual style: Black Coat of Plates) 17 or 19 GMT+0
Bandits (Visual style: Brigandine) 17 GMT+0
Merciless (Visual style: Rus Scale Armor) 19 GMT+0
Guards (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 19 GMT+0
Templars (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 17 GMT+0
Antarians (Visual style: Haubergons) 17 GMT+0
Bashibazouks (Visual style: Mamluke Mail) 19 GMT+0
Great Khans (Visual style: Sarranid Guard Armor) Unknown time
Byzantium (Visual style: Cuir Bouili over Mail) 19:00 GMT+0
Nordmen (Visual style: Brown Rus Lamellar Cuirass) 17 GMT+0
Grey Order (Visual style: Light Kuyak) 17 GMT+0
Inglorious Bastards (Visual style: Banded Armor) 19 GMT+0
22nd Battalion (Visual style: Heavy Kuyak) 19 GMT+0
Gardrika (Visual style: Heraldic Mail) 17 GMT+0
SoA (Visual style: Heraldic Mail with Tabard) 19 GMT+0
Wolves Pack Mercenaries (Visual style: Unknown) Unknown time
Mercenaries (Visual style: Unknown) Time unknown
Ruconquista (Visual style: Lamellar Armor) 17 GMT+0

SUBSTITUTES:

Brothers in Arms (Studded Leather over Mail) 17 GMT+0

Ignore any previous statements saying otherwise.

Clans, if there's any information that's wrong inform me immediately.

I still need this information from the various clans:

Great Khans: Time?
Wolves: Time and visual style?
Mercenaries: Time and visual style?

I've updated the OP about the new qualifying system and the new participants. Here is the updated system for qualifying rounds:
- 2a The qualifiers will be split in two phases: In the first phase, the 9 teams will be split in groups of 3. These 3 groups all fight in between each other. In the second phase the highest scoring teams from each group will create a new group called A. The second highest scoring team from each group will create a new group called B. The remaining teams will create group C. Each of these groups (A,B and C) will then fight in between each other, and the three highest scoring teams from throughout the whole qualifying rounds will proceed to the finals. Furthermore, advancing to group a awards a team with 4 points. Advancing to group b awards 2 points. Advancing to group c does not give any points. This is to discourage intentional loosing to get in a weaker group.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 13, 2011, 10:28:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnVOaxslbyA#t=00m35s PROOOOF. Lol my 12/27 96 speed long hafted blade build was so spammable.

hehe got the first kill here, and another one later, good old times killing ninjas  :twisted: 

 :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BlackMilk on December 13, 2011, 10:48:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ntQtZ2Cb0&feature=player_detailpage#t=65s

good times, indeed.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on December 14, 2011, 01:47:50 am
ok 19:00 gmt+0 for GK
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 14, 2011, 10:20:35 am
ok 19:00 gmt+0 for GK

Updated.

Still need info from Mercs and Wolves!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Ozan on December 14, 2011, 07:40:20 pm
Kapikulu  ( Red Coat  of Plates ) 19:00 gmt +0
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Ego_HRE on December 14, 2011, 07:51:05 pm
Holy Roman Empire
Heraldic Mail
19.00 gmt+0
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 15, 2011, 02:36:53 pm
Kapikulu  ( Red Coat  of Plates ) 19:00 gmt +0

Added as substitute

Holy Roman Empire
Heraldic Mail
19.00 gmt+0

Added as substitute

sry for slow update :o

On another note, Nocti send me a pm about the tourney:
ramses I got a question

As a visual theme, do we have to wear same thing or can we wear anything up to coat of plates?

I'll answer here so everybody can see the answer. In the future ask here in the thread.

Having a visual theme means everybody must use the same armor (So you look cool and consistent :D), but ranged players are allowed to wear lighter armors that fit the general theme.

Now give me visual theme and time so i can make the fight schedule! (Goes to both Wolves and Mercs (You were supposed to do it before today!))

Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 16, 2011, 02:22:32 am
After request the Inglorious Bastards have had their time moved from 19 GMT to 17 GMT.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: STR_KpuBopyk on December 16, 2011, 12:49:56 pm
STRANGERS(STR) 17 GMT (Green Rus Lamellar Cuirass)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 16, 2011, 04:45:23 pm
Wolves will use Heraldic Mail as visual style and fight at 19 GMT

STRANGERS(STR) 17 GMT (Green Rus Lamellar Cuirass)

Added as substitutes.

MERCS? GONNA ATTEND OR WHAT?!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dezilagel on December 16, 2011, 04:48:00 pm
MERCS? GONNA ATTEND OR WHAT?!

They'll probably Gingerpussy out.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 16, 2011, 05:21:49 pm
Will Mercenaries even have 8?

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 16, 2011, 06:02:47 pm
Quote
As a visual theme, do we have to wear same thing or can we wear anything up to coat of plates?
Do U wanna use full MW set?  :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 16, 2011, 06:06:40 pm
Talked with the Mercs, they're gonna sign up with Heraldic Mail as visual theme and at 17 GMT. This means The Fallen Brigade will fight at 19 GMT. Making the timetable now...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: bagge on December 16, 2011, 09:10:12 pm
http://www.c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming&battleid=828

ohlolol?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dezilagel on December 16, 2011, 09:13:19 pm
http://www.c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming&battleid=828

ohlolol?

Oh god.

Phail
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: //saxon on December 16, 2011, 09:23:04 pm
i want to play i can be there its no porblem  :D :P
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 16, 2011, 10:13:03 pm
i want to play i can be there its no porblem  :D :P

:/
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: HarunYahya on December 17, 2011, 05:12:26 am
Ramses we need to change our time to 17 gmt instead of 19 .
I know it is a bit late to change it but i wouldn't ask you to do this if it wasn't so important.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Everkistus on December 17, 2011, 06:18:29 am
Grats Vovka for bombing this :D
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on December 17, 2011, 06:49:50 am
Everytime I see this in the most recently posted it says "ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRIS" and I think it has something to do with me but it doesn't :(
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Daergar on December 17, 2011, 11:07:41 am
Vovka, you are my new hero. If by hero we mean someone in need of several punches to the ol' nutsack.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 11:19:21 am
SHIT HIT THE FAN

But its alright, lets see if we can reorganize. Here's what we're gonna do:

The first qualifying round has been moved back 1 hour, mean it starts at 16:00 GMT+0

I need confirmation from all the clans (including substitutes) attending at 17:00 GMT+0 that they can make it at 16:00 GMT+0.

The second qualifying round has been moved from 19:00 GMT+0 to 21:00 GMT+0

I need confirmation from the following clans that they can attend at 21:00 GMT+0 instead

Fallen Brigade (Visual style: Black Coat of Plates)
Merciless (Visual style: Rus Scale Armor)
Guards (Visual style: Heraldic Mail)
Bashibazouks (Visual style: Mamluke Mail)
Great Khans (Visual style: Sarranid Guard Armor)
Byzantium (Visual style: Cuir Bouili over Mail)
22nd Battalion (Visual style: Heavy Kuyak)
SoA (Visual style: Heraldic Mail with Tabard)
Wolves Pack Mercenaries (Visual style: Heraldic Mail)
Kapikulu (Visual style: Coat of Plates(Red))
Holy Roman Empire (Visual style: Heraldic Mail)

If you cannot make it at this time, we're gonna have to figure out something. Just contact me as soon as possible. koyama, can the Bashis not attend at 21:00 GMT?

I know this situation might not be ideal, but strategus forces us to be flexible. If it is not possible to rearrange the clans to new times i might be forced to cancel the tournament, as i am myself very busy atm with study for a final assignment.

I'll hop around TS's to see if i can get some clans to respond quickly.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 17, 2011, 11:30:34 am
Gardarika - 16 GMT. 21 GMT means 01:00 in Russia :)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 17, 2011, 11:38:50 am
So now we know why DRZ never applied for the tournament. :lol:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Paul on December 17, 2011, 11:43:46 am
U mad u got DRZownd?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 17, 2011, 11:49:49 am
SHIT HIT THE FAN

But its alright, lets see if we can reorganize. Here's what we're gonna do:

The first qualifying round has been moved back 1 hour, mean it starts at 16:00 GMT+0

I need confirmation from all the clans (including substitutes) attending at 17:00 GMT+0 that they can make it at 16:00 GMT+0.

Provisional YES from most of us, but not ALL of the guys are on yet.  I'll PM you if it all goes to shit.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: josh on December 17, 2011, 12:19:29 pm
SoA will be able to make it, Not everyone has been noted yet but I shall tell you if we can't make it! :) 21:00GMT
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Ozan on December 17, 2011, 12:20:13 pm
21:00 gmt +0    is ok for Kapikulu ;) 
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 17, 2011, 12:44:02 pm
21:00 (22:00-23:00 for most of us) is not exactly ok here, everyone has plans for tonight's going out, I asked a lot of people.

The previous time was just fine. So we probably won't be there, sadly.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 01:27:50 pm
Bashibazouks wants to fight at 16:00 GMT+0 if possible, so if there's any clans fighting there willing to swap times with the Bashis it would be great.

21:00 (22:00-23:00 for most of us) is not exactly ok here, everyone has plans for tonight's going out, I asked a lot of people.

The previous time was just fine. So we probably won't be there, sadly.

This is really too bad. Blame Vovka  :P

Anyway, this is also why we got substitutes.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Kunio on December 17, 2011, 01:37:44 pm
21 gmt impossible for bashibazouk we need to attend at 16:00 gmt , it will be really good for us.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BadLoR on December 17, 2011, 01:45:18 pm
Switch us with BashiBazouks
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 17, 2011, 01:46:02 pm
ty vovka....... rly that was just a great move. Ruining most of a tourney people used alot of time setting up.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chasey on December 17, 2011, 01:47:56 pm
ty vovka....... rly that was just a great move. Ruining most of a tourney people used alot of time setting up.
+1
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Ujin on December 17, 2011, 01:48:30 pm
Dick move indeed, DRZ.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 01:48:59 pm
Switch us with BashiBazouks

DEAL

Bashibazouks fight at 16:00 GMT+0

Grey Order fights at 21:00 GMT+0
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RandomDude on December 17, 2011, 01:53:54 pm
We try to make it for 1600
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 17, 2011, 02:00:18 pm
Nordmen will fight.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: serr on December 17, 2011, 02:00:38 pm
Brothers in Arms will try to make it, but i can't promise that we'll have full team.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: FeddyDK on December 17, 2011, 02:07:34 pm
DEAL

Bashibazouks fight at 16:00 GMT+0

  :twisted:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chasey on December 17, 2011, 02:11:15 pm
Byzantium will be there
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tristan on December 17, 2011, 02:15:56 pm
I am contacting and writing in the Guards forum as I write this. I believe it is going to be a yes.

I honestly don't know. When is the latest you'll have to know ramses?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: STR_KpuBopyk on December 17, 2011, 02:48:04 pm
16 gmt norm for STR
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 17, 2011, 03:05:34 pm
Bandits will show up at 16.00 GMT.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 03:34:45 pm
Forgot about the poll:

Since there is not a majority agreeing to change the rules, they stay the same. IE:

One stack of throwing weapons counts as one ranged slot
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Phyrex on December 17, 2011, 03:50:22 pm
21:00 GMT should be fine for the 22nd Battalion.

I have not spoken to everyone yet and a lot of people are offline, we'll see.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 03:53:14 pm
Hopefully final update!

The server is up and ready, its called Fallen_Tournament

The password will be in the OP shortly.

I recommend all clans to join 15 minutes early. I'll do a roll call just before we start. Failing to respond to the roll call means the substitutes takes your place immediatly.

Map: Field by the river, since I couldn't get a hold of Beau. The arena will be the fenced area on the side of the river without ruins.

TL:DR:

Server: Fallen_Tournament
Password: Check OP
Map: Field by the river
Arena: Fenced area on the side of the river without ruins


Thanks a lot to Conqueror_worm for providing the server!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 04:08:49 pm
I am contacting and writing in the Guards forum as I write this. I believe it is going to be a yes.

I honestly don't know. When is the latest you'll have to know ramses?

Just as soon as possible. If you can't make it, we got subs anyway.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: STR_KpuBopyk on December 17, 2011, 04:44:30 pm
Password incorrect  :cry:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: serr on December 17, 2011, 04:45:47 pm
Unfortunately, BIA can't make it.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 04:50:27 pm
Password incorrect  :cry:

Check the op to see the pass. It should be correct (lots of people on the server)

Unfortunately, BIA can't make it.

Too bad  :(
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: STR_KpuBopyk on December 17, 2011, 04:54:32 pm
 :D my engl is bad
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on December 17, 2011, 05:05:03 pm
21gmt+0
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Noctivagant on December 17, 2011, 05:47:56 pm
Sorry for not participating but we have priorities now. Thanks to Drz spoiling the game once again
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Nebun on December 17, 2011, 06:03:08 pm
we in the same stupid situation, all our mercs in this tournament

none of us even knew when this damn tournament would happen :(
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BlackMilk on December 17, 2011, 06:12:00 pm
Segd was participating in the tournament btw :)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 06:38:09 pm
1st qualifiers are over

Thanks to so many people for showing up on time and dedicating yourselves to follow the rules. T'was a good tourney start imo.

Anyway, here's the standings:

Ruconquista 34 points
Nords 32 points
Inglourious bastards 29 points

Bashibazouks 23 points
Strangers 22 points
Bandits 20 points
Antarians 18 points
Templars 13 points
Gardrika 11 points

Templars was penalized 5 points for picking up shields and weapon in combat. (Otherwise they would have had 18 points)

Ruconquista, Nords and Inglourious bastards proceeds to the finals tomorrow.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 17, 2011, 06:40:45 pm
gf
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: //saxon on December 17, 2011, 06:42:28 pm
awsome!!  :P
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 17, 2011, 06:45:20 pm
Segd was participating in the tournament btw :)
xD  Do you like how we kicked Bashi's asses?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: HarunYahya on December 17, 2011, 06:52:07 pm
xD  Do you like how we kicked Bashi's asses?  :rolleyes:
I like how you vanish from the tournement and gave ING free 8 points more.
Also Ruconqista's having a team of non-RuConqista mercs was awesome lol.
Anyway thanks for the tourney and good luck with the teams who made it to finals.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 17, 2011, 06:52:11 pm
xD  Do you like how we kicked Bashi's asses?  :rolleyes:

yes
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Nessaj on December 17, 2011, 07:24:24 pm
Grabbed a few screenshots, made into action shots, not that many.
(Full unedited screenshots click here (http://imageshack.us/g/824/2011121700001.jpg/))


Crowd/spectators

(click to show/hide)


Wildcard

(click to show/hide)


Battles

(click to show/hide)


..in the end, hugs

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 17, 2011, 07:39:04 pm
1st qualifiers are over
Ruconquista+ a big bunch of randomers 34 points
Nords 32 points
Inglourious bastards 29 points[/b]
Bashibazouks 23 points
Strangers 22 points
Bandits 20 points
Antarians 18 points
Templars 13 points
Gardrika 11 points

Fixed it for ya!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Old Autobus on December 17, 2011, 08:27:21 pm
Also Ruconqista's having a team of non-RuConqista mercs was awesome lol.

7 of us are friends both ingame and IRL, it doesnt matter if we are without RuConquista tag, the only merc there was Muffin.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: MadeForFighting on December 17, 2011, 08:30:07 pm
I really do not like the idea of mercs in clan tournaments.  :? Where's the ''clan'' part then?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 17, 2011, 08:34:33 pm
7 of us are friends both ingame and IRL, it doesnt matter if we are without RuConquista tag, the only merc there was Muffin.

Seeing they are all rl friends I think it's alright, even tho a tag would make it prettier  :wink:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chasey on December 17, 2011, 08:36:16 pm

Wildcard

(click to show/hide)


Im sexy and you know it  8-)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 09:01:10 pm
Next qualifier in 1 hour.

Everybody who's supposed to have been at 19 GMT+0 just show up at 21:00 GMT+0. I only asked for confirmation to make sure we would still have some clans join :)

nice pic btw cooties.

For 2nd qualifier clans:

Server: Fallen_Tournament
Password: Check OP
Map: Field by the River
Arena: Fenced area on the opposite side of the river with the ruins
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 17, 2011, 09:06:06 pm
What's this I hear about teams fielding players outside their clans? That sounds like total BS to me. :?

Congratulations to the qualifying teams, though!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Noctivagant on December 17, 2011, 09:12:50 pm
1st qualifiers are over

Thanks to so many people for showing up on time and dedicating yourselves to follow the rules. T'was a good tourney start imo.

Anyway, here's the standings:

Ruconquista 34 points
Nords 32 points
Inglourious bastards 29 points

Bashibazouks 23 points
Strangers 22 points
Bandits 20 points
Antarians 18 points
Templars 13 points
Gardrika 11 points

Templars was penalized 5 points for picking up shields and weapon in combat. (Otherwise they would have had 18 points)

Ruconquista, Nords and Inglourious bastards proceeds to the finals tomorrow.

Congrats to Ruconquista, our battle brothers didn't disappoint us as always, also congrats to Nords good job guys. Rest of you thanks for participating in an event like that and Fallen thanks for the opportunity hope to be there next time (or you can hire us as level bosses =P) Ramses thanks for the hard work, trying to keep us there.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 17, 2011, 09:18:07 pm
And another thing:

Since there is not a majority agreeing to change the rules, they stay the same. IE:

That's a bit manipulative. The (admittedly narrow) majority did want a change, just different versions. :P
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 17, 2011, 09:24:40 pm
From what i saw...correct me if wrong, but I (using my ING_Fun) alt was the only thrower in the whole of todays 1st round battles.

The 6 axes deplete pretty quickly, and made only 1 kill, made much more kills with my sidearm than with the throwing...

Allow 1 thrower to fully load up for tomorrow would be cool   :idea:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 09:33:35 pm
And another thing:

That's a bit manipulative. The (admittedly narrow) majority did want a change, just different versions. :P

You forgot about the undecided ones. They count as not wanting to change the rules by my book.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on December 17, 2011, 09:35:08 pm
I was fighting with Ru Conquista because they were one player short. Also Im 1/32 russian so its only fair that I can participate with my comrades. :)

Also Cooties I was very upset that I was in none of the pics, then I saw the last one. You sure know how to make a gal feel special.  :oops:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 17, 2011, 09:36:22 pm
I was fighting with Ru Conquista because they were one player short. Also Im 1/32 russian so its only fair that I can participate with my comrades. :)

Also Cooties I was very upset that I was in none of the pics, then I saw the last one. You sure know how to make a gal feel special.  :oops:

It was my request  8-)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 17, 2011, 09:39:55 pm
You forgot about the undecided ones. They count as not wanting to change the rules by my book.

Okay, now that really is manipulative. If that were the case, then it shouldn't exist as a poll option. Sorry, but distortion of data is a pet peeve of mine, and what you just said is a blatant case. :wink:

Still, not a problem for our team, so I don't really care that much. However, I'm really serious that there shouldn't be any of this "merc" business in the finals, I think allowing it even in the first round was a mistake. Gardarika may have come in last, but at least they were man enough to face the music when they couldn't assemble a full squad.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Xant on December 17, 2011, 09:40:48 pm
distortion of data is a pet peeve of mine

Whoddathunkit...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 17, 2011, 09:41:28 pm
Gardarika may have come in last, but at least they were man enough to face the music when they couldn't assemble a full squad.

And they still beat Bashi as the surprise result.  Good on them.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 09:45:47 pm
Counting the neutral votes is standing business where I live, I don't know and don't care about how you do.

It exists as a poll option for people who aren't sure on what to vote. Its the same as other votes - You can vote yes or no or blank. Voting blank in this case is called "undecided"

And in the end: My tourney, my rules. Whether you find that manipulative or not is nothing I care about.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 17, 2011, 09:49:35 pm
Okay, what about the real issue? I'm noticing a distinct lack of comment on the "extra players" question.

Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the effort involved in organizing this thing, but it's no good talking about it when the tourney's already over.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on December 17, 2011, 09:59:37 pm
SoA must withdraw from the tournament due to lack of people online and due to the fact that it makes no difference if we play or not since we will probably come last so we withdraw
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Xant on December 17, 2011, 10:09:07 pm
That's the spirit.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 17, 2011, 10:22:03 pm
I dont quite understand the system, judging from the teams we got after the initial group it seems that it was: 3 groups of 3 teams. Winners of each group fight eachother, 2nd place of each group fight eachother etc.

So why would one want to win the group they are in? Better come in second place at the cost of some points and then fight easier second place opponents in the next round for more points.

Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Nessaj on December 17, 2011, 11:12:40 pm
I'd taken more screenshots for you Ramses as last time but some Fallen gimp kicked me so I was cba to rejoin :twisted:


Second Round Saturday

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No gallery without hugs:

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This one is for you Ramses:

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Fallen_Deritay: (or whats his name)

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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Vibe on December 17, 2011, 11:31:42 pm
Great fights, congrats Byzantium for kicking our ass hard :)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Ujin on December 17, 2011, 11:34:25 pm
Good fights, see ya guys tomorrow (i hope) =).

P.S. out of curiosity , how many of those kuyaks in Grey Order's team are lordly ? :>
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BadLoR on December 17, 2011, 11:35:47 pm
we had only 3 lordly kuyaks :(
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 17, 2011, 11:37:20 pm
Scores for second qualifier!

Grey Order 34
Byzantium 30
22nd 30

Fallen 27
Kapikulu 21
Great Khans 16
Holy Roman Empire 16
Wolves 10
Guards 9

Bolded clans have made it to the finals! (Damn we were so close XD)

Which means the teams tomorrow will be:
Grey Order
Byzantium
22nd Battalion
Ruconquista
Nords
Inglourious bastards
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Rantrex on December 17, 2011, 11:37:41 pm
2? 3?

Probably second tour will be harder. I dunno what are the rest of clans doing, but we keep going foward.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Captain_Georges on December 17, 2011, 11:40:15 pm
gg
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on December 17, 2011, 11:40:22 pm
I want the Basterds to win!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tristan on December 18, 2011, 12:09:17 am
Well nothing new. Guards still ain't the best at tourneys and thanks to Daveuk to bump our score a bit :D

Nice playing all of ya.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on December 18, 2011, 12:32:12 am
for next tournament we will work on the entrances a little bit better, those were a little bit sloppy

gf all!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 12:34:39 am
thx for organization anyway, wouldve loved to play though :(
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Bjarky on December 18, 2011, 01:00:02 am
thx for organizing this again Fallen, we had fun  :D

and here some little sexy touching on the behind  8-)
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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Dehitay on December 18, 2011, 01:37:39 am
I'd taken more screenshots for you Ramses as last time but some Fallen gimp kicked me so I was cba to rejoin :twisted:

Fallen_Deritay: (or whats his name)
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You and Xant were swinging at each other and we had too many people in the server, so the two of you made yourselves perfect candidates for freeing up space so fighters could join in. Btw, I'm surprised you got that close to my name considering you were going from memory. Considering it makes sense in absolutely no language, I didn't think that much of it would stick with you.

Also, I'm a sexy bish
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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 18, 2011, 01:39:56 am
meh.... anyway ty for putting this together Ramses. Would have loved to participate.... but sadly couldent. :/
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tristan on December 18, 2011, 02:01:20 am
@Okin. Actually the burden of proof is on your side as it is you who wants to change the rules. What ever way you turn it, more people actually voted for the original suggestion, and even more did not care. Hence in order to achieve a greater number with your proposal (which should be expected at least) you would need more votes that the rules already applied.
Some may even argue that in order to change an established rule you might need 2/3 of the votes, but you did not get 50% even when disregarding other votes.

Edit: But you could however argue for a second voting round where only the two most voted for result were available and then try to garner more votes from either undecided or 2 stacks. Odds are that 2 stacks might move to your position and that more undecideds might move as well, seeing that few throwing weapons were used in the actual tournament.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Nessaj on December 18, 2011, 02:02:55 am
You and Xant were swinging at each other and we had too many people in the server, so the two of you made yourselves perfect candidates for freeing up space so fighters could join in. Btw, I'm surprised you got that close to my name considering you were going from memory. Considering it makes sense in absolutely no language, I didn't think that much of it would stick with you.

Also, I'm a sexy bish
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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 18, 2011, 02:13:46 am
@Okin. Actually the burden of proof is on your side as it is you who wants to change the rules. What ever way you turn it, more people actually voted for the original suggestion, and even more did not care. Hence in order to achieve a greater number with your proposal (which should be expected at least) you would need more votes that the rules already applied.
Some may even argue that in order to change an established rule you might need 2/3 of the votes, but you did not get 50% even when disregarding other votes.

Edit: But you could however argue for a second voting round where only the two most voted for result were available and then try to garner more votes from either undecided or 2 stacks. Odds are that 2 stacks might move to your position and that more undecideds might move as well, seeing that few throwing weapons were used in the actual tournament.

There's no point in dragging it out further, Ramses has obviously made up his mind and it won't have any impact on the tournament at this stage. I'm much more interested in hearing him say something about the "mercs".

However, since you brought it up again, I think you're looking at this wrong. The "Undecided" option basically means "I don't care either way, I just want to see the poll result." It's not fair to count them as votes in favor of the status quo, that's completely misleading to the voters. If there's no genuine way to vote without voting, then there shouldn't be a "neutral" option in the first place. This isn't like a parliamentary session where there's a preset number of voters, so the bit about "abstaining" votes counting into the total you have to beat is silly. So I disagree with Ramses there.

You, however, seem to be saying that a single "change" option should actually outnumber the "no change" option? That's even more unreasonable, just imagine a case of 50 for no change and 45 for each of the potential changes. Are you seriously saying that should count as a majority in favor of keeping the current rule? If so, then the whole vote is rigged to fail by virtue of having two separate options for changes in the first place.

If you want to set some arbitrary ratio target, then whatever, but by my count the vote is 63 in favor of changing, 60 in favor of keeping it like it is. And with that I'm done discussing the matter. :lol:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Old Autobus on December 18, 2011, 02:32:33 am
There's no point in dragging it out further, Ramses has obviously made up his mind and it won't have any impact on the tournament at this stage. I'm much more interested in hearing him say something about the "mercs".

However, since you brought it up again, I think you're looking at this wrong. The "Undecided" option basically means "I don't care either way, I just want to see the poll result." It's not fair to count them as votes in favor of the status quo, that's completely misleading to the voters. If there's no genuine way to vote without voting, then there shouldn't be a "neutral" option in the first place. This isn't like a parliamentary session where there's a preset number of voters, so the bit about "abstaining" votes counting into the total you have to beat is silly. So I disagree with Ramses there.

You, however, seem to be saying that a single "change" option should actually outnumber the "no change" option? That's even more unreasonable, just imagine a case of 50 for no change and 45 for each of the potential changes. Are you seriously saying that should count as a majority in favor of keeping the current rule? If so, then the whole vote is rigged to fail by virtue of having two separate options for changes in the first place.

If you want to set some arbitrary ratio target, then whatever, but by my count the vote is 63 in favor of changing, 60 in favor of keeping it like it is. And with that I'm done discussing the matter. :lol:

no.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 18, 2011, 02:44:08 am
no.

no u.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Franke on December 18, 2011, 04:15:40 am
no u.

What is this??? Where'S your avatar gone? You know, the one inspiring imagination... :evil:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 18, 2011, 09:16:54 am
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a hahahaha, hahaha, a hahaha, omfg i pissed my self, srsly...
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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Teeth on December 18, 2011, 12:43:25 pm
Any videos shot?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: MrExxc on December 18, 2011, 01:19:01 pm
Any videos shot?

Dace frapsed some I believe.

Nice screens Cooties, love them! Get a banner pack bro.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Nessaj on December 18, 2011, 01:58:34 pm
Dace frapsed some I believe.

Nice screens Cooties, love them! Get a banner pack bro.

I'll install Arked's old one later today but I'm never using the regular one with all the shit banners in it.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: bagge on December 18, 2011, 02:00:52 pm
No gallery without hugs:
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LeoKing pimpin' like a boss
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 18, 2011, 03:31:15 pm
Announcement!

I am truly sorry, but rl circumstances prevent me from showing up and be leading the tournament finals myself.

However, Thovex has graciously stepped up and accepted to be the tournament master for this final. He will be doing all the stuff I did yesterday (calling fights, counting points etc.) and he will also be the final judge to give penalty points if necessary.

I hope that despite all the confusion there's been (Strategus, server troubles and now this) you guys have had a fun and encouraging experience. I hope the next tournament I organize will be with less confusion.

So, be good to Thovex, and may the best team win!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Torben on December 18, 2011, 03:35:49 pm
Ramses,  I am very greatefull for you organizing this shit,  i had a blast.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 18, 2011, 03:40:44 pm
Still no word on the issue of out-of-clan players.

Seriously, should we be looking into outsourcing a couple of slots from our team to visiting stars if some of our top players can't make it? :|

Anyway, thanks a lot for the organization Ramses!

Edit: I'd just like to point out there was no mention of crap like that in the rules, only this:

6 - If under any circumstances your clan fights with lower amount of people, your missing teammates are considered as killed (other team will get points just like for killing them).

To my mind, this rule was totally broken yesterday. Only Gardarika followed it, even though they weren't the only clan not fielding a full squad.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Osiris on December 18, 2011, 04:13:00 pm
I was fighting with Ru Conquista because they were one player short <---- thats bs. They had 1 Drz tagged guy and a couple of pillagers. They had 50% of their side as mercs. who cares if they are all RL friends? if they want to fight together so much they should make a side clan and add tags to their chars
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: zottlmarsch on December 18, 2011, 04:23:49 pm
What if Merc's were allowed, but their team would get penalised 1 point per merc, per battle that they fought in?

for example if you used 2 mercs in 1 battle you would be deducted 2 points from that battle?

Sounds Fair?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Old Autobus on December 18, 2011, 04:50:31 pm
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We would play together anyways, it doesn't matter if we have a tag or not.
Stop whining fellas, that wont bring you to the finals.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 18, 2011, 05:12:49 pm
The rules state that when a clan applies for the tournament, that clan fights. If the clan cannot field with enough members, its too bad for them.

I allowed a few mercs on different teams yesterday because i couldn't see the big issue. The wolves had a couple of Cotgs, and the templars a few VR guys.

I told these two clans i would for once allow it them, but under the condition that it would never exceed more than 1 or absolute 2 players, and if i saw anyone from their original clan staying out to get a merc from another clan in, they would get instantly banned from the tournament. I do not endorse the idea of mercs.

However, with the Ruconquista the situation was different. Due to the low number of clans showing up (8 out of 11) for the early qualifier, i needed the Rucon. I went to their channel and asked if they were gonna attend or not. I saw 7 guys ready in their channel, and they asked if they could 1 extra guy who wanted to play but couldn't because Mercs were not gonna be attending. Since i had allowed 1 with templars and Wolves, i allowed it here as well. Those 7 guys and Muffin were the ones fighting in the tourney.

This is by far not the first time teams have been made of different clans, but previously this has been announced in good time ahead. This was not the case.

The rules will be slightly modified in comparison to yesterday: Substituting players from other clans or randomers should only be in the most dire of cases. As such, if you have 6 or more clan players online, you're not allowed to field any substitutes from other clans. Only people from your own clan. If you have less than 6 players on your team it is allowed to field substitutes from other clans, but at a maximum of 2 and under the condition your team size does not exceed 6

As such, Ruconquista is only allowed to use players using the Ruconquista_ tag if they have 6 or more players. If they have any less, they may field up to 6 players using subs from other clans, at the maximum of two.

And Ariec and Blueberry Muffin are not members of Ruconquista.

I hope this clears it up.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Old Autobus on December 18, 2011, 05:20:59 pm
Should i apply on our russian community forum to join RuCon or the tag only would be fine?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 18, 2011, 05:22:15 pm
Getting their tag should be enough Samodur
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Old Autobus on December 18, 2011, 05:22:27 pm
Thank you.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Old Autobus on December 18, 2011, 05:40:22 pm
Also i've seen enemy archers using different armor, will it be okay fo our xbowman/thrower to use different armor?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 05:46:31 pm
Also i've seen enemy archers using different armor, will it be okay fo our xbowman/thrower to use different armor?

That's alright.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 18, 2011, 06:42:48 pm
This new rule sounds fair, looking forward to the finals!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 06:46:33 pm
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During the tournament try not to kill the people in Merchants Robe. :)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 18, 2011, 06:58:14 pm
Not sexy  :? Tits or GTFO   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 07:03:04 pm
It's a shemale.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 07:44:45 pm
Starting in 16 minutes or so.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Phyrex on December 18, 2011, 07:51:11 pm
Looks like 22nd Battalion has a life for once. Our best players can't attend due to real-life business or something equally time-wasting. Not even sure if we can field a full team, will try my best to get a rag-tag group going though. :/
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 18, 2011, 09:09:52 pm
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Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 09:36:59 pm
Finals results will be on here in a little while.

22nd is disqualified officially by 22nd_Phyrex.
ING is disqualified for receiving 5 warnings, including running on the battlefield during a match and so on.
Byzantium had a -5 points for attacking/killing one referee.

So thanks Nords, RuConquista and Grey Order for behaving.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 18, 2011, 09:40:51 pm
Some great fights there, congrats to the winners!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Zotte on December 18, 2011, 09:41:35 pm
I apologize for the killing of the referee near the end, georges can get a bit fanatic when hes bored :p
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 18, 2011, 09:41:39 pm
Finals results will be on here in a little while.

22nd is disqualified officially by 22nd_Phyrex.
ING is disqualified for receiving 5 warnings, including running on the battlefield during a match and so on.
Byzantium had a -5 points for attacking/killing one referee.

So thanks Nords, RuConquista and Grey Order for behaving.

We behaved up until my fail ban tbh.  We completely behaved (on time first, full team, etc etc) and then later on CoWorm thought it neccessary to permaban me for making a tk on other side of map at spawn of some random afk dude when i shot his feet with arbalest. CoWorm knew nothing about this ofc cos he was at the arena bit and didnt bother asking...just bam, permaban.  Then we just trolled cos if the admin trolls then hey, why not.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Xant on December 18, 2011, 09:42:52 pm
You did that in the middle of a match.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Captain_Georges on December 18, 2011, 09:44:09 pm
I regret nothing!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 18, 2011, 09:45:10 pm
You did that in the middle of a match.

No i respawned, at the far end respawn.  The guy was there on the flag, doing nothing.  I'd just changed team for the next fight.  You guys may have just started a fight i'm not sure, but anyway, admin coulda asked what was that...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 09:47:11 pm
We behaved up until my fail ban tbh.  We completely behaved (on time first, full team, etc etc) and then later on CoWorm thought it neccessary to permaban me for making a tk on other side of map at spawn of some random afk dude when i shot his feet with arbalest. CoWorm knew nothing about this ofc cos he was at the arena bit and didnt bother asking...just bam, permaban.  Then we just trolled cos if the admin trolls then hey, why not.

He is with us on Teamspeak and fully understands what was happening.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Xant on December 18, 2011, 09:47:42 pm
Yes, you did it when the fighting started. It's just really confusing if someone else makes kills during a match - and the rule is no fighting. You can only blame yourself, why the hell would you shoot an AFKer anyway when you know you're not allowed to kill anyone?
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Old Autobus on December 18, 2011, 09:52:03 pm
awesome.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 18, 2011, 09:52:20 pm
Yes, you did it when the fighting started. It's just really confusing if someone else makes kills during a match - and the rule is no fighting. You can only blame yourself, why the hell would you shoot an AFKer anyway when you know you're not allowed to kill anyone?

This pretty much explains everything u could ask.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 09:54:24 pm

1st. Grey Order = 69 points
2nd. Nords = 66 points
3rd. RuConquista = 64 points
4th. Byzantium = 44 points
5th & 6th = 22nd & Inglorious = 0 points
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Xant on December 18, 2011, 09:56:22 pm
Good show from Greys.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Thovex on December 18, 2011, 09:59:06 pm
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Thanks to the admin refereeing team, could not have done it without you.

And a flying CoWorm/OkiN up in the air spectating, and thanks for the server CoWorm!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: polkafranzi on December 18, 2011, 09:59:58 pm
Yes, you did it when the fighting started. It's just really confusing if someone else makes kills during a match - and the rule is no fighting. You can only blame yourself, why the hell would you shoot an AFKer anyway when you know you're not allowed to kill anyone?

The battle is counted by the lineup at the end, no-one cares about the bottom left text i thought.  I mean, tourney master can see nothing was going on witht the arena for a 1 mile radius.  But anyway, i'm just saying kick woulda been warning enough.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 18, 2011, 10:00:40 pm
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Thanks to the admin refereeing team, could not have done it without you.

And a flying CoWorm up in the air spectating, and thanks for the server CoWorm!

Damn we are sexy rich men ;)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tor! on December 18, 2011, 10:00:57 pm
Grats on victory Greys, and good fighting to all!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BadLoR on December 18, 2011, 10:05:51 pm
Thanks for awesome battles and i hope there will be more tournaments in the future. ;)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Nessaj on December 18, 2011, 10:11:57 pm
Yeah good game. More tournaments! :D
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BlackMilk on December 18, 2011, 10:18:07 pm
Would've been nicer if Mercs, 22nd and especially Merciless participated!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: DimaUrban on December 18, 2011, 10:22:09 pm
Good game Greys, you are hard.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: bagge on December 18, 2011, 10:24:03 pm
Well done Greys
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: _GTX_ on December 18, 2011, 10:25:04 pm
Would've been more nice if Mercs, 22nd and especially Merciless participated!
Agreed
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Siiem on December 18, 2011, 10:41:40 pm
Good job polaks, some excellent teamplay. Congratulations with your win.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Xant on December 18, 2011, 10:46:45 pm
Good job polaks, some excellent teamplay. Congratulations with your win.

"With your win"? Surely you mean "on your win", Siiem??????????????????????0
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: rufio on December 18, 2011, 11:02:49 pm
Thanks for awesome battles and i hope there will be more tournaments in the future. ;)

thank you to, and congratulations on victory! kurwa!! haha next time we will come back and take our revenge!!:D
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Harpag on December 18, 2011, 11:08:41 pm
Once again, warm thanks to the organizers and all participants. Nice tournament and a great sports atmosphere. Thank you for your congratulations for my boys. They had a very difficult task, because each team was a strong opponent, especially Nords, RuConquista and Byzantium. In the future we will try to organize a grey tournament , though I doubt that we'll do it as well as experienced Fallens - masters of events with a long tradition. The whole community is counting on you gentlemen!

PS. We look forward to revenge from your side and the next awesome Fallens Tournament!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: witchkunold on December 18, 2011, 11:53:12 pm
Anyone have a video from a tournament? :S I want to see!! Who is a Leeroy Jenkins!!  :mad:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Butan on December 19, 2011, 12:01:31 am
It was fun until I took an arrow to the knee.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Lezard on December 19, 2011, 12:43:47 am
Grats on the win Greys. Too bad I had serious connection problems, definitely wanted to fight you and the rest of the top teams (I did fight two rounds, but died horribly each time :lol:).

Big thanks for the tournament Ramses and Fallen. Was fun, although a non-loom tournament mode would be great for tournaments such as these.

cmp, now's your time to shine
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Ujin on December 19, 2011, 01:09:37 am
Good game guys and grats GO .

 We surely haven't been practicing much during the last month or two and it goes to show, but now that hopefully people are starting to realise how much better are clan battles and tournaments alike compared to strat, we will start training harder again. =)

P.S. i so want to see a cRPG league with 2 divisions some day  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tristan on December 19, 2011, 04:11:13 am
A league would be WIN!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: BlackMilk on December 19, 2011, 07:00:47 am
Nations Cup would be WIN!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Segd on December 19, 2011, 07:40:39 am
Nations Cup would be WIN!
team RUM is ready :)
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Prpavi on December 19, 2011, 09:15:23 am
First of all congrats to the winners nad all the participants. Yet another great tourney, this is just what we need to bring the community together.

Looking forward to future tourneys, the Bandits are at your dispossal.

cheers
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Gnjus on December 19, 2011, 09:37:44 am
(click to show/hide)

Kicks Prpavi out of the clan for speaking like a priest/templar/samaritan instead of Bandit.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: gazda on December 19, 2011, 10:34:03 am
LIES IN THIS THREAD !!!!!!!!!
BANDITS WON !!!!!!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: djavo on December 19, 2011, 02:28:23 pm
Why did you kill the poor streaker. I just wanted to show my pretty ass to all contestants.

Remember me.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on December 19, 2011, 06:03:44 pm
Thanks to everybody for a great tourney.

This has been a very learning experience for me, and I think I've gotten a better hand on this and will add some extra rules for the next time so nobody feels cheated.

Congratz to the Grey Order for a worthy victory. And thank you to all the guys who gave support (Beau, Worm, Thovex.. The list goes on :D), would've been screwed without you.

Grats on the win Greys. Too bad I had serious connection problems, definitely wanted to fight you and the rest of the top teams (I did fight two rounds, but died horribly each time :lol:).

Big thanks for the tournament Ramses and Fallen. Was fun, although a non-loom tournament mode would be great for tournaments such as these.

cmp, now's your time to shine

Do you have any suggestions on how this would be done?

Why did you kill the poor streaker. I just wanted to show my pretty ass to all contestants.

Remember me.

Your naked butt is not worthy of my arena, so I strike you to the ground!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Shpritza on December 19, 2011, 06:08:21 pm
Your naked butt is not worthy of my arena, so I strike you to the ground!

hahahahaha
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 19, 2011, 07:05:12 pm
Do you have any suggestions on how this would be done?

He was referring to an IRC conversation where cmp actually brought up the idea of adding one to the mod. Here's hoping!
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Tristan on December 19, 2011, 07:58:34 pm
There is one way, which honestly though is rather cumbersome.

stf is already an option. So to honor the fairness of a grand larger tournament, the devs will implement the skip the fun for tournament option, or in short stfft.

Instead of limiting armor or weapons, each char that uses the stfft option cannot gain gold or levels but has a preset amount to buy equipment for.
The name of the stfft will always end of stfft as this is what the char will be created in on the database.

To Guard_Tristan_stfft would be playable....

This way we could limit heirlooms and even out equipment.

However.... somewhat cumbersome...
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Jarlek on December 21, 2011, 01:48:30 am
There is one way, which honestly though is rather cumbersome.

stf is already an option. So to honor the fairness of a grand larger tournament, the devs will implement the skip the fun for tournament option, or in short stfft.

Instead of limiting armor or weapons, each char that uses the stfft option cannot gain gold or levels but has a preset amount to buy equipment for.
The name of the stfft will always end of stfft as this is what the char will be created in on the database.

To Guard_Tristan_stfft would be playable....

This way we could limit heirlooms and even out equipment.

However.... somewhat cumbersome...
That was actually gonna be my suggestion too! An STF for tournaments! +1
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Krakatit on December 22, 2011, 06:12:23 am
That was actually gonna be my suggestion too! An STF for tournaments! +1

The point of current tournament is to compare each others skills and hard work. To show how good teamplay your clan have. Its a place where you can fight as a player with some other goal than getting multiplier. Its about prestige of the clans and their members. If you want to make a sport of it then native tournament is the option i guess.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: okiN on December 22, 2011, 12:14:06 pm
I think the main issue is that the current rules favor clans where several players have the same armour heirloomed. Really, you're going much too far; a cRPG tournament without heirlooms isn't a native tournament, it's a cRPG tournament without heirlooms. The playing field is a bit more even, but all the options for customization are still there.
Title: Re: ALL CRPG FALLEN CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT - 17 and 18 DECEMBER
Post by: Cepeshi on December 22, 2011, 12:42:10 pm
RAWR Bandits back and we even killed some, harr harr  :mrgreen: