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Title: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 08, 2011, 07:03:09 am
Step One Choice of bow:
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Step Two Choice of Arrows:
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Step Three Armor:
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Strep Four (Spell correctly) Tactics:
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Step Five Build Choice:
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Please post your's below so I can add them to my list!

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Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 08, 2011, 08:08:32 am
Alright think of this thread to be in Beta. Please reply with suggestions, questions, additions,and Builds for me to add to the thread. This thread is my new passion and I wish when I first started I had something like this and now I will ensure every1 has access to this resource.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Lysander on December 08, 2011, 09:32:32 am
Step Five Build Choice:
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Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Blondin on December 08, 2011, 09:50:05 am
A good archer is a dead archer ;)

Nice guide!
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 09, 2011, 12:37:55 am
A good archer is a dead archer ;)

Nice guide!
Thanks! Spent a good amount of time on it. Contrary to popular belief the population of archers took  a mjor hit with the recent nerf. We need archers though without them are flanks are easily unguarded and cav with rain havoc. Aswell it would slow the game MASSIVELY

Step Five Build Choice:
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Added to the list thanks for the addition.

What do you think about me adding a pole on what bow you are currently using? Also Im thinking of being more indepth on armor and tactics. Please leave your tips and tricks below. Thinking also of making a similar thread on another play style. Any request?
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 09, 2011, 12:44:12 am
Adding a Step for Melee weapon/backup weapon selection.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Lysander on December 09, 2011, 10:46:34 am
I'm using:
 
Bow: Horn Bow

Arrows: Bodkin Arrows

Armour:Red Tunic
            Khergit Leather Boots
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: ShinySpoons on December 10, 2011, 10:06:55 pm
I have a hybrid archer.

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 63
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 6

One Handed: 86
Archery: 140

Using a tatar bow and tatar arrows. I'm usually quite close to the main ball of melee players. This build is not suggested if you want to shoot at stuff from a safe place. But very fun if you enjoy playing as close support and have the situational awareness to watch out for flankers.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 10, 2011, 10:12:24 pm
I have a hybrid archer.
Using a tatar bow and tatar arrows. I'm usually quite close to the main ball of melee players. This build is not suggested if you want to shoot at stuff from a safe place. But very fun if you enjoy playing as close support and have the situational awareness to watch out for flankers.

 Added
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: isatis on December 11, 2011, 01:05:36 am
the default built i recommend for pure archer

Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 3
Athletics: 7
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 52
Archery: 160


you run fast key tactic: hit and run, you also have some wpf in 1h don't forget to use your sword once in a while! (don't get crazy on that tougth: you have only 3ps)


and my own built

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 4
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 7
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 44
Archery: 152

you are a bit slower but you do damage, I usually go with hig bow with that. if you are a good melee you can use horn+2set of quiver+1h and get some kill on weaken foe

those are my suggestion
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Christo on December 11, 2011, 04:31:10 am
TL/DR Version of any Archery Guide:

-Stack WPF/PD/ATHL.
-Get the most powerful everything.
-Get into a server.
-Equip your bow.
-Rush to the first roof you can see, and camp there 24/7.
-Aim at the direction of the enemy, above target judged by distance.
-Shoot.
-If everything goes wrong, run.


 :)
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 11, 2011, 10:57:33 am
TL/DR Version of any Archery Guide:

-Stack WPF/PD/ATHL to unber pwnzer knees.
-Get the most powerful everything to shoot knees.
-Get into a server. With alota Knees
-Equip your bowknee Horn Bow
-Rush to the first roof you can see, and camp there 24/7 or you will lose a knee.
-Aim at the direction of the enemy's knee, above target judged by distance.
-Shoot for the knee.
-If everything goes wrong, you took an arrow to the knee.


 :)


Fixed
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Mars on December 11, 2011, 08:51:54 pm
30_Seconds_To_Mars build:

Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 58

    Unused skill points: 1
    Skills to attributes: 10

    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 165
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Plan for lvl 35
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As an archer i prefer being pure, i carry a rus bow + bodkins with a pickaxe, the key is using your team to protect u while providing ranged support, can't wait for 24 agil by lvl 34.
Quick tips for noob archers:
1) Try your best to not shoot into melee, but if u really must, study the enemy player's movement, if they start backpeddling your teammate, pick a spot and let them walk into your arrow.
2) If u have a teammate that is high ath that likes to dance around their enemy, DON'T even try helping.
3) If u feel like u can't hit squat, try to dedicate yourself to anti cav early in the round, cav are not only EZ targets, but killing them or.......their horse early can be the difference btwn a win or lose later on.
4) Most ppl seem to like hybrid archers, honestly i HIGHLY recommend going pure for really this one reason, hybrids in cRPG are ok.....at multiple things, but never amazing at any one thing. If u die in melee it's all good, after all u have nothing spend into melee ( this will actually save u from raging ). Make an alt for all your melee needs ( hybrids are gimp unless lvl 31+ and even then pure is just even that much better )
All and all I hope some1 got some good info from this and the important thing is just have fun
- Mars -
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 11, 2011, 11:03:25 pm
Thanks Guys! This is going along well!
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 11, 2011, 11:09:11 pm
the default built i recommend for pure archer

Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 3
Athletics: 7
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 52
Archery: 160


you run fast key tactic: hit and run, you also have some wpf in 1h don't forget to use your sword once in a while! (don't get crazy on that tougth: you have only 3ps)


and my own built

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 4
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 7
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 44
Archery: 152

you are a bit slower but you do damage, I usually go with hig bow with that. if you are a good melee you can use horn+2set of quiver+1h and get some kill on weaken foe
30_Seconds_To_Mars build:

Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 58

    Unused skill points: 1
    Skills to attributes: 10

    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 165
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Plan for lvl 35
(click to show/hide)

As an archer i prefer being pure, i carry a rus bow + bodkins with a pickaxe, the key is using your team to protect u while providing ranged support, can't wait for 24 agil by lvl 34.
Quick tips for noob archers:
1) Try your best to not shoot into melee, but if u really must, study the enemy player's movement, if they start backpeddling your teammate, pick a spot and let them walk into your arrow.
2) If u have a teammate that is high ath that likes to dance around their enemy, DON'T even try helping.
3) If u feel like u can't hit squat, try to dedicate yourself to anti cav early in the round, cav are not only EZ targets, but killing them or.......their horse early can be the difference btwn a win or lose later on.
4) Most ppl seem to like hybrid archers, honestly i HIGHLY recommend going pure for really this one reason, hybrids in cRPG are ok.....at multiple things, but never amazing at any one thing. If u die in melee it's all good, after all u have nothing spend into melee ( this will actually save u from raging ). Make an alt for all your melee needs ( hybrids are gimp unless lvl 31+ and even then pure is just even that much better )
All and all I hope some1 got some good info from this and the important thing is just have fun
- Mars -
those are my suggestion

Added Both and Thanks Mars for the Tips added it to Tactics portion!
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Lysander on December 11, 2011, 11:45:59 pm
30_Seconds_To_Mars build:

Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 58

    Unused skill points: 1
    Skills to attributes: 10

    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 165
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Plan for lvl 35
(click to show/hide)

As an archer i prefer being pure, i carry a rus bow + bodkins with a pickaxe, the key is using your team to protect u while providing ranged support, can't wait for 24 agil by lvl 34.
Quick tips for noob archers:
1) Try your best to not shoot into melee, but if u really must, study the enemy player's movement, if they start backpeddling your teammate, pick a spot and let them walk into your arrow.
2) If u have a teammate that is high ath that likes to dance around their enemy, DON'T even try helping.
3) If u feel like u can't hit squat, try to dedicate yourself to anti cav early in the round, cav are not only EZ targets, but killing them or.......their horse early can be the difference btwn a win or lose later on.
4) Most ppl seem to like hybrid archers, honestly i HIGHLY recommend going pure for really this one reason, hybrids in cRPG are ok.....at multiple things, but never amazing at any one thing. If u die in melee it's all good, after all u have nothing spend into melee ( this will actually save u from raging ). Make an alt for all your melee needs ( hybrids are gimp unless lvl 31+ and even then pure is just even that much better )
All and all I hope some1 got some good info from this and the important thing is just have fun
- Mars -

I see no point in the skills for Ironflash.
And if you ask me, 7 Power Draw arent necessery. Which kind of bow you are using? On every bow except Longbow 7 PD is to much.
Only my opinion!
Greetings
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 12, 2011, 12:12:05 am
I see no point in the skills for Ironflash.
And if you ask me, 7 Power Draw arent necessery. Which kind of bow you are using? On every bow except Longbow 7 PD is to much.
Only my opinion!
Greetings
I use 8PD and still have trouble getting 3 hit kills. I use Ironflesh and it is a Godsent. I cant tell you howmany Times I have a black HP bar. 8PD+oomd Rus = 2hit kills. 8PD+Horn= Hs= %100 kill on anyone and 3Hit Kills on most. From 6 to 8 PD it's a very Major difference. 6PD is not enough at all. 7Pd is alright but 8 Is were it's at. 8PD and 3+ IronFlesh I will live by them. Ony thing I hate about my build is not enough 1h WPF and not enough powerstike so I glance everthing.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: MrShine on December 12, 2011, 05:28:47 am
For an archer/melee hybrid build I strongly recommend:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 15
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 60

    * Skills to attributes: 2

    * Ironflesh: 5
    * Power Strike: 5
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 5
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 7

    * One Handed: 55
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 1
    * Archery: 158
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

With bodkins you still can be effective at range yet can hold your own in most melee situations as well with the 60 hp and 5 PS.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 12, 2011, 06:19:24 am
For an archer/melee hybrid build I strongly recommend:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 15
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 60

    * Skills to attributes: 2

    * Ironflesh: 5
    * Power Strike: 5
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 5
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 7

    * One Handed: 55
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 1
    * Archery: 158
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

With bodkins you still can be effective at range yet can hold your own in most melee situations as well with the 60 hp and 5 PS.
Personally I believe this is to weak and for a Hybrid doesn't have enough 1 hand WPF.... I will post but I personaly don't like this build. But hey it's all play style right!
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 12, 2011, 06:22:20 am
My account was knocked back a lil due to the name change. Please bare with me It snached a few of my edits and additions...
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Dach on December 12, 2011, 07:29:23 am
Here's my hybrid build

Lvl 32

STR: 21
AGI: 18

IF: 3
PS: 7
AT: 6
PD: 7
WM: 6

Archery: 140
Polearm: 92

Items: MW mail gauntlet, MW light leather, Thick rus cavalry boots, MW horn bow, MW tatar arrows, MW long bardiche

Plan for lvl 35 was getting AGI to 21, getting +1 AT, +1 WM, +1 IF, archery to 150 and polearm to 100.

Probably won't ever hit 35 as I'm thinking on respec or retiring.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: ShinySpoons on December 12, 2011, 11:08:27 am
Oh, some tips for noob archers, to practice shooting in melee I suggest seige. People aren't running in circles as much on top of walls and your team is more forgiving of tks/tws.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: MrShine on December 12, 2011, 12:59:28 pm
Personally I believe this is to weak and for a Hybrid doesn't have enough 1 hand WPF.... I will post but I personaly don't like this build. But hey it's all play style right!

It's your thread if you don't like the build don't feel obligated to post it!  :wink:

WPF is to taste, I originally thought about bringing my archery wpf to 150 and then the rest in 1H (bringing it to 87) but honestly I see very little difference in wpf as far as melee is concerned.   In fact this is one of the few times I've ever put wpf into my melee weapon as an archer, usually it's pure all the way for me.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 12, 2011, 03:47:22 pm
In general, putting 50 Points in a Melee profession of your choice is a good thing for archers.With WM6 and more its about 3-4 Wpf in archery which get lost, while you become really fast with Weaps like the shortened spear if you have 50 wpf at least.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Arrowblood on December 12, 2011, 07:40:56 pm
i say the diffrence between 150 and 170 wpf is huge for an archer, and hybrids with rus or longbow up to lvl 30/31 are useless .So i mean its useless to spend your important points to any melee shit.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Jambi on December 12, 2011, 08:20:20 pm
lol
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: hippy_with_a_scimi on December 13, 2011, 12:29:57 am

2) If u have a teammate that is high ath that likes to dance around their enemy, DON'T even try helping.


that guy is my new archer hero friend!  , is he the only one who actually think like this ?
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on December 13, 2011, 01:38:10 am
that guy is my new archer hero friend!  , is he the only one who actually think like this ?
Personally I shoot into Melee combat but it's because I got skillz :P
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Kenji on December 13, 2011, 02:43:01 am
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I disagree.

Yumi has certain disadvantage when it comes to long range archer/xbow duels and sniping, but at medium and short range it has both the accuracy and damage to be a very good support bow while taking only 1 slot, which means a much better 1H weapon (Or with one quiver of regular arrow and 2 extra slots for either a good 2H weapon or ladder/siege shield with 0 slot weapon)

Besides, it's a bigger bow than the rus bow or longbow, in which to some are important...? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Zanze on December 13, 2011, 02:52:50 am
Shooting into melee is not as hard as people think. Just some people try to shoot into melee from half a map a way...idiots. Just wait for the target to move forward or backwards against your teammate, make sure your teammate does not have his back toward you, and make sure there are less than or equal to the amount of allies vs enemies. Other than that, you shoot knowing you WILL hit your teammates eventually. Just learn not to do it as much.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Socrates on December 16, 2011, 03:42:16 pm
Level : 30

STR: 18
AGI: 24

Archery: 172

ATH:3
Power Draw:6
Weapon Master:8

Using in conjunction with Masterwork Bow and Masterwork Bodkin Arrows.
Title: Re: Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!
Post by: Gomer on January 09, 2012, 07:50:48 am
I am now an crossbower :P