Gomer's Guide to being a sum what good archer!

[Gomer]

Step One Choice of bow:

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Short Bow, Bow and Nomad Bow:
The three cheapest lowest tier bows and are an obvious choice to use intill you have the required skill to use the upper tier bows. Recommended not to use if your skill permits else-wise.

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Tatar Bow:
The Machine Gun. Doesn't do a whole lot of damage (only two less then Horn though) but horribly fast. Very good for Archer Duels and medium range combat vs. Light armored targets. Tough to use at the start of your career but when the right hands of an archer who can aim for the head this can be deadly. Tough to use but tough to beat. Recommendation is to not use in your first generation but later on. (BTW This is Strategus GOLD Cheap to make and masterworked mows down people in strategus)

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Horn Bow:
Fast. This does an OK amount of damage (4 less then the Rus Bow) but makes up for the lack of damage with speed. The three speed difference sacrificed for the four damage bonus of the Rus must not be discounted. The 3 speed makes a HUGE difference. This bow is great for archer duels. It is fast so if your going for the head it gives you a lot more chances. Good bow one of the two most common. Recommendation good bow, easy to use, great for trying archery for the first time.

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Yumi:
Hard. This bow lacks Damage and especially Missile speed. It is a very large bow and very hard to stay in a good position without being noticed. Hard to use. Slow draw. Some people are good with it. Not recommended to use but recommended to try. Some people are very good with it.

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Rus Bow:
Simply wonderful. One of the two most common bows. It has a very good damage and not a horrible speed (but can't compete to a Horn or Tatar bow in a archer Duel). This bow is the best bow for killing infantry and can still be used in archer duels with a little practice and luck. Hard to get used to the speed but well worth the damage at times. This bow and the Horn bow are the two MUST OWN bows. Only problem is this bow and the Long bow require 2 slots. Therefore only a 0slot weapon can be carried if you use 2 quivers of arrows. Recommendation try this and the horn bow and see what you like better and use that for your first generation.

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Long Bow:
The Rocket Launcher. Slow, heavy, but powerful. High missile speed and damage. Sounds great right? NO, Very slow and hard to get used to. Useless in archer duels (unless the other archer is a new player or doesn't see you). It is great for killing infantry. But the lack of speed alone makes this recommended only for experienced archer who understand what they are doing. Recommendation is to use this if you are smart. You must plan out your targets and make sure there are no other archers. Distance is a key advantage for this bow due to it's high accuracy and missile speed. Recommended for experienced archers.

Step Two Choice of Arrows:

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Arrows:
You get tons of cheap to upkeep arrows. They don't add much damage but are cheap. Recommended for people that go for head shots, people conserving money, or people wanting something good to craft for strategus.

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Barbed Arrows:
Underestimated. Cheap high quantity arrows. One less damage then Tatar but +2 arrows per quiver and much cheaper to maintain. Underestimated. Again Strategus gold.

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Tatar Arrows:
Basic. Not as expensive as Bodkins and the highest damage bonus. A large amount of arrows per quiver. Basic default for the average archer own a set.

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Bodkin Arrows:
Expensive little buggers. Only get 15 arrows per quiver. BUT it transfers your damage to pierce. Do not underestimate that. It will tear through armored enemys. Good for the archer that want's to help his team. Good for killing armored horses. Own a set of these.

Step Three Armor:

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This time I won't list every option and explain everything. As an archer excluding weapons you want to be 8.5 pounds or lighter. Use Leather gloves and Boots leather or lighter. Use armor from Tribal warrior and lighter. Use a helmet from Flat Topped and lighter. Listen to me browse those options try to be as light as possible. Look cool and you will be fine. Any further questions reply and I will elaborate as soon as I can.

Strep Four (Spell correctly) Tactics:

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I suggest as a beginning archer follow other archers around. Notice where they hang and take note where there is good cover from where cav and other archers can't get you. Roofs are you'r friend and Hills and Trees are always nice. Tactics will come with experiance. Always remember to look behind you. When you hear hoofs LOOK BEHIND YOU. At the start you will be snuck up on and murdered from behind ALOT. Learn from your mistakes and develop your own methods. I have mine and you will have yours.

When NOT TO SHOOT! Team Kills are a major problem for any archer. When there is two people fighting generally keep away. If you know your teammate will die let loose and help. Later on it's a different story especially as you get into 135+ WPF. But just remember watch your shot and try only to shoot  when you know you wont hit your team. Be smart. But if you ever do get a team kill always remeber to type this 'Equip screen Sorry".

Step Five Build Choice:

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A build is custom make one for yourself. I suggest you use this http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm . I will post some example builds with there creators below.
My Build
Attributes:

24 Strength
15 Agility

Weapon Proficiency:

One Hand:15
Archery: 145

Skills:

Iron Flesh: 3
Power Strike: 2
Athletics: 5
Power Draw: 8
Weapon Master: 5

Lysander's Build:

lvl 31

Attributes
Strength    18   
Agility    24   

Weapon proficiency
Archery    156

Skills
Athletics    8   
Power Draw    6   
Weapon Master    6   

Shiny Spoons Build:
Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 63
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 6

One Handed: 86
Archery: 140

MrShine's Build:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 15
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 60

    * Skills to attributes: 2

    * Ironflesh: 5
    * Power Strike: 5
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 5
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 7

    * One Handed: 55
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 1
    * Archery: 158
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

Please post your's below so I can add them to my list!

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[Gomer]

Alright think of this thread to be in Beta. Please reply with suggestions, questions, additions,and Builds for me to add to the thread. This thread is my new passion and I wish when I first started I had something like this and now I will ensure every1 has access to this resource.

[Lysander]

Step Five Build Choice:

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My Build

lvl 31

Attributes
Strength    18    
Agility    24   

Weapon proficiency
Archery    156

Skills
Athletics    8    
Power Draw    6    
Weapon Master    6    

[Blondin]

A good archer is a dead archer ;)

Nice guide!

[Gomer]

A good archer is a dead archer ;)

Nice guide!

Thanks! Spent a good amount of time on it. Contrary to popular belief the population of archers took  a mjor hit with the recent nerf. We need archers though without them are flanks are easily unguarded and cav with rain havoc. Aswell it would slow the game MASSIVELY

Step Five Build Choice:

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My Build

lvl 31

Attributes
Strength    18    
Agility    24   

Weapon proficiency
Archery    156

Skills
Athletics    8    
Power Draw    6    
Weapon Master    6    

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Added to the list thanks for the addition.

What do you think about me adding a pole on what bow you are currently using? Also Im thinking of being more indepth on armor and tactics. Please leave your tips and tricks below. Thinking also of making a similar thread on another play style. Any request?

[Gomer]

Adding a Step for Melee weapon/backup weapon selection.

[Lysander]

I'm using:
 
Bow: Horn Bow

Arrows: Bodkin Arrows

Armour:Red Tunic
            Khergit Leather Boots

[ShinySpoons]

I have a hybrid archer.

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 63
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 6

One Handed: 86
Archery: 140

Using a tatar bow and tatar arrows. I'm usually quite close to the main ball of melee players. This build is not suggested if you want to shoot at stuff from a safe place. But very fun if you enjoy playing as close support and have the situational awareness to watch out for flankers.

[Gomer]

I have a hybrid archer.
Using a tatar bow and tatar arrows. I'm usually quite close to the main ball of melee players. This build is not suggested if you want to shoot at stuff from a safe place. But very fun if you enjoy playing as close support and have the situational awareness to watch out for flankers.

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[isatis]

the default built i recommend for pure archer

Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 3
Athletics: 7
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 52
Archery: 160


you run fast key tactic: hit and run, you also have some wpf in 1h don't forget to use your sword once in a while! (don't get crazy on that tougth: you have only 3ps)


and my own built

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 4
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 7
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 44
Archery: 152

you are a bit slower but you do damage, I usually go with hig bow with that. if you are a good melee you can use horn+2set of quiver+1h and get some kill on weaken foe

those are my suggestion

[Christo]

TL/DR Version of any Archery Guide:

-Stack WPF/PD/ATHL.
-Get the most powerful everything.
-Get into a server.
-Equip your bow.
-Rush to the first roof you can see, and camp there 24/7.
-Aim at the direction of the enemy, above target judged by distance.
-Shoot.
-If everything goes wrong, run.


 

[Gomer]

TL/DR Version of any Archery Guide:

-Stack WPF/PD/ATHL to unber pwnzer knees.
-Get the most powerful everything to shoot knees.
-Get into a server. With alota Knees
-Equip your bowknee Horn Bow
-Rush to the first roof you can see, and camp there 24/7 or you will lose a knee.
-Aim at the direction of the enemy's knee, above target judged by distance.
-Shoot for the knee.
-If everything goes wrong, you took an arrow to the knee.


 

Fixed

[Mars]

30_Seconds_To_Mars build:

Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 58

    Unused skill points: 1
    Skills to attributes: 10

    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 165
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Plan for lvl 35

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Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 62

    Attributes to skills: 1
    Skills to attributes: 12

    Ironflesh: 3
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 8
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 8

    One Handed: 6
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 176
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

As an archer i prefer being pure, i carry a rus bow + bodkins with a pickaxe, the key is using your team to protect u while providing ranged support, can't wait for 24 agil by lvl 34.
Quick tips for noob archers:
1) Try your best to not shoot into melee, but if u really must, study the enemy player's movement, if they start backpeddling your teammate, pick a spot and let them walk into your arrow.
2) If u have a teammate that is high ath that likes to dance around their enemy, DON'T even try helping.
3) If u feel like u can't hit squat, try to dedicate yourself to anti cav early in the round, cav are not only EZ targets, but killing them or.......their horse early can be the difference btwn a win or lose later on.
4) Most ppl seem to like hybrid archers, honestly i HIGHLY recommend going pure for really this one reason, hybrids in cRPG are ok.....at multiple things, but never amazing at any one thing. If u die in melee it's all good, after all u have nothing spend into melee ( this will actually save u from raging ). Make an alt for all your melee needs ( hybrids are gimp unless lvl 31+ and even then pure is just even that much better )
All and all I hope some1 got some good info from this and the important thing is just have fun

- Mars -

[Gomer]

Thanks Guys! This is going along well!

[Gomer]

the default built i recommend for pure archer

Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 3
Athletics: 7
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 52
Archery: 160


you run fast key tactic: hit and run, you also have some wpf in 1h don't forget to use your sword once in a while! (don't get crazy on that tougth: you have only 3ps)


and my own built

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 4
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 7
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 44
Archery: 152

you are a bit slower but you do damage, I usually go with hig bow with that. if you are a good melee you can use horn+2set of quiver+1h and get some kill on weaken foe

30_Seconds_To_Mars build:

Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 58

    Unused skill points: 1
    Skills to attributes: 10

    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 165
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Plan for lvl 35

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Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 62

    Attributes to skills: 1
    Skills to attributes: 12

    Ironflesh: 3
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 8
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 8

    One Handed: 6
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 176
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

As an archer i prefer being pure, i carry a rus bow + bodkins with a pickaxe, the key is using your team to protect u while providing ranged support, can't wait for 24 agil by lvl 34.
Quick tips for noob archers:
1) Try your best to not shoot into melee, but if u really must, study the enemy player's movement, if they start backpeddling your teammate, pick a spot and let them walk into your arrow.
2) If u have a teammate that is high ath that likes to dance around their enemy, DON'T even try helping.
3) If u feel like u can't hit squat, try to dedicate yourself to anti cav early in the round, cav are not only EZ targets, but killing them or.......their horse early can be the difference btwn a win or lose later on.
4) Most ppl seem to like hybrid archers, honestly i HIGHLY recommend going pure for really this one reason, hybrids in cRPG are ok.....at multiple things, but never amazing at any one thing. If u die in melee it's all good, after all u have nothing spend into melee ( this will actually save u from raging ). Make an alt for all your melee needs ( hybrids are gimp unless lvl 31+ and even then pure is just even that much better )
All and all I hope some1 got some good info from this and the important thing is just have fun

- Mars -

those are my suggestion

Added Both and Thanks Mars for the Tips added it to Tactics portion!