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Title: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 10, 2011, 09:01:44 pm
I'm not sure if this is the right section but yeah,

I have seen alot of racism on the EU servers, and i dont believe that racism is currently ban-able, and it definetly should be, its VERY annoying to play the game and any time u join a big server (eu 1 for example) u see someone saying extreme things about turks mostly(most of the time its about turks im not sure if other ethnicities are offended in the same amount),

aaand i strongly recommend that there should be a ban on racism ingame.
Title: Re: RACISM.
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 10, 2011, 09:02:50 pm
Injustice!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Herkkutatti on November 10, 2011, 09:04:56 pm
maybe it doesn't break the rule but it breaks the law  :twisted:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 10, 2011, 09:06:12 pm
Yes indeed mister joosto.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: SixThumbs on November 10, 2011, 09:06:40 pm
I'm pretty sure being racist isn't against the law. It's morally reprehensible by the majority but I don't think it's a law.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 10, 2011, 09:08:15 pm
its actually very possible that it is somewhere. I just don't personally know which country.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Rikthor on November 10, 2011, 09:10:44 pm
I can't speak for the EU servers, but at least on the NA official servers the admins are pretty fast about kicking people who start spouting of racial things. If they keep at it, then they get banned.

Now homophobia on the other hand...
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kerrigan on November 10, 2011, 09:11:32 pm
Freedom of speech ofcourse. But I think you should be able to shield yourself against those things that people say. I really don't care if people call me a f**** Dutch bastard or something. It's the internet..I don't take it that seriously. The people don't even know me.

Maybe you should try not to feel offended so easily. You can expect this everywhere on the internet. Especially in games..
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 10, 2011, 09:20:57 pm
I can't speak for the EU servers, but at least on the NA official servers the admins are pretty fast about kicking people who start spouting of racial things. If they keep at it, then they get banned.

Now homophobia on the other hand...


In the EU servers no one cares a TAQWA about racism, every time u play on eu 1 for example you see 5+ negative racial comments and I have never seen anyone get banned for it.

About the homophobia, i dont really think its such a big problem, racism is more of an important issue (in the EU that is).
But it sure sounds like u keep it in good check over in the NA servers, thats great. :P

Freedom of speech ofcourse. But I think you should be able to shield yourself against those things that people say. I really don't care if people call me a f**** Dutch TAQWA or something. It's the internet..I don't take it that seriously. The people don't even know me.

Maybe you should try not to feel offended so easily. You can expect this everywhere on the internet. Especially in games..

TBH I'm not so concerned about myself being offended since im not even turk, and i made this post for a guy who was also chocked by the amount of racism in EU servers. I'm swedish and I've never been offended for that. But once it happened me and another man being called "useless turks" and was blamed for loosing the round.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: SixThumbs on November 10, 2011, 09:23:26 pm
I think the better question is why is it even necessary in the first place? For some modicum of humor in the shock value? Because it's the internet that's automatically a free pass to act as socially unbecoming as possible to see other people's reactions? Not sure what kind of reactions are expected but it's usually a bunch of people keeping their mouths shut and one other guy claiming, which I believe rightfully so, racism isn't a laughing matter and the antagonist telling that person it's all in fun, quit being a pussy, etc. There's generally a time and place for everything but unmitigated bigotry is generally always unnecessary.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 10, 2011, 09:29:41 pm
I couldn't have put it better SixThumbs.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Gnjus on November 10, 2011, 10:02:30 pm
bla, bla, bla

Obviously you haven't met Panos..........  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Penitent on November 10, 2011, 10:09:21 pm
I think maybe he has met Panos and that is what the thread is about.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 10, 2011, 10:13:37 pm
Kareem kamil
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2011, 10:15:39 pm
Racism is very sensitive subject. Real life racism I mean, not the internet mumbo jumbo.

I think that's perfectly okay for me to speak bad about Turks. I'm not a Turk, I don't live in Turkey but I look like one, have black hair, I was born in a city where majority of people pray to Allah (but no I'm not a muslim). Also country where I live currently have been under Turkey for 500 years (no wonder I look like a Turk, lolz :mrgreen:).

But if some nordic dude with blue eyes and hair is talking bad about Turks I find that unacceptable.

You know, it's the same with N word. It's okay if a homie call another homie like that but it's not okay if a white dude call a homie like that :wink:

Racism isn't something universal. Racism has it's roots in reality and many people were tortured and died because of it.

So no, I don't think there's real racism on the internet. Believing there is racism on the internet, in the form of words, is making fun of all those people who actually suffered because of racism. Only true forms of racism on the internet are sites of already existing RL racist organisations whose names I won't mention here (most people know them).

But there are those silly rules on every message board on the internet (those rules are there to cover asses of board owners), and admins are always harsh when it comes to "so called" racism. Somehow I doubt if those people (admins on forums) were put in some real life situation where majority would act against certain group of people (black people, jewish people, minorities, homosexuals), would they do the right thing and try to protect those people.

What I want to say is, you can't prove shit on the interwebz. Proving grounds are away from the keyboard :wink:

And Panos talking shit about Turks is so funny (and Cicero and his crew talking about Greece), because of that Turkey vs Greece thing which going on for so long. Most people who live in those countries or on Balkans know about it. Not my problem you scandinavian dudes don't know about that :P

While I'm at it why don't throw something fresh and very "racist":

Italy is the new Greece, take that cmpx :P :P
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kafein on November 10, 2011, 10:17:07 pm
That's exactly why I should create a char named einstein_The_Blonde_Black_Gay_Turk_Pope_Terrorist_Jew_Trader_Pokemon

I've never seen anything super offensive on EU1. Sure some comments are racist jokes (useless turk, filthy polak, jewing people etc etc), but given how 99% of those are extremely cliche, I don't think anyone is serious about it.

Actually, one can't "defeat" racism (real racism I mean), the best way to "be over that" is humor, not hunting racists. You can't force people into thinking something they don't, even if they are wrong in every possible way. Punishing racism is needed, but it won't really help the offended people.

Furthermore, just like in said, racism on the internet isn't serious when the website you're on isn't written in red on black or the opposite.



PS : I'm a Belgian and I'd like to know what the cliches are, besides eating fries, waffles and chocolate and drinking beer, speaking two languages in the same country, having no government during an insane time (the previous world record of 249 days was hold by Irak) or other things related to politics :lol:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: RandomDude on November 10, 2011, 10:34:15 pm
When someone calls me an "english x" where x is an insulting word, i find it funny.

I do realise that other people may not feel the same though and I try to watch the chat for when it's crossing the line.

All i can say is tell an admin that you find whatever it is someone said offensive and they should deal with it.

Ive been wondering whether turks were insulted by some comments on eu but I never saw any1 complain so I just figured everyone was happy.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Gnjus on November 10, 2011, 10:45:57 pm
I think maybe he has met Panos and that is what the thread is about.  :mrgreen:

No. Trust me - he HASN'T met Panos.

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Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kajia on November 10, 2011, 10:47:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLn_uIdOoBU
a film about how stereotypes are manipulating us - with the 'bad arab' example
thats why i don't like racism, especially against turks - oh, and i am german btw ...
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: RandomDude on November 10, 2011, 10:52:19 pm
Well sometimes I wonder if im over reacting when I act on stuff in chat, especially after last time
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Count_Curtis on November 10, 2011, 10:54:03 pm
Different cultures have completely different takes on racism, its hard to really put in any rules against it, cause being against racism is against some people who find racism the norm.

I mean being english, somebody makes an apparently racist remark at me, i generally find it a laugh, and think of something to say back about where there from. yet some place at the otherside of the world its illegal to be racist, so putting in rules against it pretty much takes the freedom from those who see racism is not a problem, and so long as it hurts nobody, it does just that. hurts nobody

So, my opinion. no rules on racism if it was my choice.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Gnjus on November 10, 2011, 11:06:24 pm
Different cultures have completely different takes on racism, its hard to really put in any rules against it, cause being against racism is against some people who find racism the norm.

I mean being english, somebody makes an apparently racist remark at me, i generally find it a laugh, and think of something to say back about where there from. yet some place at the otherside of the world its illegal to be racist, so putting in rules against it pretty much takes the freedom from those who see racism is not a problem, and so long as it hurts nobody, it does just that. hurts nobody

So, my opinion. no rules on racism if it was my choice.

Exactly, you English cunt.  :wink:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2011, 11:09:36 pm
No no no. Use the one Tenne likes the most.

britmy old friend :mrgreen:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Osiris on November 10, 2011, 11:23:33 pm
britmy old friend implies that we are scots or welsh :( TAKE IT BACK!


some occasionally country based banter is fine if the other side isnt offended :D some turks like it some give it back :D scots welsh and english give it all the time in a good way.

When you spout it over and over and over and over everytime you join a server then it becomes a problem
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 10, 2011, 11:36:03 pm
Thanks everyone for your comments, and as I think I've mentioned before I made this thread for people who are personally offended by racism, and people who are maybe more sensitive towards these things. Many people doesn't take racism comments as a joke, atleast when it's not intended as a joke, if you understand what i mean.



No. Trust me - he HASN'T met Panos.

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Actually Gnjus, i got Panos the greek on my steam contact list for quite a few months back and still do,
and i am aware of his... whatchamacallit... views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLn_uIdOoBU
a film about how stereotypes are manipulating us - with the 'bad arab' example
thats why i don't like racism, especially against turks - oh, and i am german btw ...

true that. when he started talkin about the fictional "Arabland" that was quite funny but true also :P
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Overdriven on November 10, 2011, 11:38:09 pm
britmy old friend implies that we are scots or welsh :( TAKE IT BACK!
Seriously chill out :D people can act all outraged about racism but in England the ammount of racist jokes and txt msgs is insane and funny :D

People dont rage about racial jokes because the sterotype is funny :D doesnt make it true :D we call french people cheese eating surrender monkeys. they call us whatever they call us :P doesnt mean we actually think we are superior (even if we are the awesome race) :D

Just ask the Welsh about racism...

I'm English to. I find it funny when anyone else says anything racist towards us.

Though some stuff does get a bit much on EU, people who I think are trying to be funny, don't realise that their remarks can actually be incredibly offensive. But that's just ignorance. No real point making a rule about it. Instead if it does offend you, just remember they are ignorant fucktards :D
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kafein on November 10, 2011, 11:41:31 pm
britmy old friend implies that we are scots or welsh :( TAKE IT BACK!
Seriously chill out :D people can act all outraged about racism but in England the ammount of racist jokes and txt msgs is insane and funny :D

People dont rage about racial jokes because the sterotype is funny :D doesnt make it true :D we call french people cheese eating surrender monkeys. they call us whatever they call us :P doesnt mean we actually think we are superior (even if we are the awesome race) :D

The french equivalent of frog for english people is beefsteacks. But this is somewhat out of style. Although the beef steack is already terrible, they prefer mocking other parts of the horror museum called english food. Like boiled lamb with mint.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Overdriven on November 10, 2011, 11:45:01 pm
The french equivalent of frog for english people is beefsteacks. But this is somewhat out of style. Although the beef steack is already terrible, they prefer mocking other parts of the horror museum called english food. Like boiled lamb with mint.

Psssht English food is great, French food is over rated. Could do with some roast lamb with mint sauce mmmm :)
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Lars on November 10, 2011, 11:58:47 pm
i was once  victim of a racist attack, only beacause i'm white... the worst experience of my life, i was unarmed and so scared... luckily a friend with a white tunic came to  rescue me.

Here it's what happened... my mate on the left  tried invane to talk with the angry attacker  :arrow:
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Terrifying moments, my friend was about to get stabbed to death... i remeber i cried loudly "run away, run!!!" the guy with the shield was laughing and  didn't lift a finger to help my buddy...i though it was the end...  :arrow:
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but my "brother" kept a cool head, he jumped back and hit the "angry villain"  with a tramendous strike to the head!  :arrow:
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i couldn't believe my eyes, it was all over!  here it's my buddy checking the body of the angry man...
 the guy with the crossbow stole some money from the pockets of the racist offender... before he left us he said something about being "jewish", but i have no clue  about the meaning of that word.
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Racism is a bad thing, that experience shocked me, i was a happy,peaceful guy before, now i keep having nightmares  and i'm afraid of everything, i lost trust in human kind...  i will never be the same again... 
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 11, 2011, 12:24:23 am
i was once  victim of a racist attack, only beacause i'm white... the worst experience of my life, i was unamred and so scared... luckily a friend with a white tunic came to  rescue me.

Here it's what happened... my mate on the left  tried invane to talk with the angry attacker
(click to show/hide)

Terrifying moments, my friend was about to get stabbed to death... i remeber i cried loudly "run away, run!!!" the guy with the shield was laughing and  didn't lift a finger to help my buddy...i though it was the end...
(click to show/hide)

but my "brother" kept a cool head, he jumped back and hit the "angry villain"  with a tramendous strike to the head...
(click to show/hide)

i couldn't believe my eyes, it was over!  here it's my buddy checking the body of the angry man... the guy with the crossbow stole some money from the pockets of the racist offender and run away...
(click to show/hide)

Racism is a bad thing, that experience shocked me, i was a happy,peaceful guy before, now i keep having nightmares  and i'm afraid of everything, i lost trust in human kind...  i will never be the same again...

Lars, you are now officially the troll of the day

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Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 11, 2011, 12:32:40 am
They should just buff ranged and the racism will stop
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: polkafranzi on November 11, 2011, 01:09:27 am
Fuck Australia and fuck Austrians.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Angantyr on November 11, 2011, 01:34:43 am
Be mindful not to confuse nationality and race, the difference is vast.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: RandomDude on November 11, 2011, 02:15:21 am
The french equivalent of frog for english people is beefsteacks. But this is somewhat out of style. Although the beef steack is already terrible, they prefer mocking other parts of the horror museum called english food. Like boiled lamb with mint.

I thought it was Roast Beef, or it was like 7 years ago

Some french girl was working in the same bar as me for a month or so and her bf was with her.

They spend all night saying "roast beef" and pissing their sides....

LOL!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Leesin on November 11, 2011, 02:24:14 am
I thought it was Roast Beef, or it was like 7 years ago

Some french girl was working in the same bar as me for a month or so and her bf was with her.

They spend all night saying "roast beef" and pissing their sides....

LOL!

LOL @ the french.

iamracist
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: HarunYahya on November 11, 2011, 02:45:50 am
Racism is very sensitive subject. Real life racism I mean, not the internet mumbo jumbo.

I think that's perfectly okay for me to speak bad about Turks. I'm not a Turk, I don't live in Turkey but I look like one, have black hair, I was born in a city where majority of people pray to Allah (but no I'm not a muslim). Also country where I live currently have been under Turkey for 500 years (no wonder I look like a Turk, lolz :mrgreen:).

But if some nordic dude with blue eyes and hair is talking bad about Turks I find that unacceptable.

You know, it's the same with N word. It's okay if a homie call another homie like that but it's not okay if a white dude call a homie like that :wink:

Racism isn't something universal. Racism has it's roots in reality and many people were tortured and died because of it.

So no, I don't think there's real racism on the internet. Believing there is racism on the internet, in the form of words, is making fun of all those people who actually suffered because of racism. Only true forms of racism on the internet are sites of already existing RL racist organisations whose names I won't mention here (most people know them).

But there are those silly rules on every message board on the internet (those rules are there to cover asses of board owners), and admins are always harsh when it comes to "so called" racism. Somehow I doubt if those people (admins on forums) were put in some real life situation where majority would act against certain group of people (black people, jewish people, minorities, homosexuals), would they do the right thing and try to protect those people.

What I want to say is, you can't prove shit on the interwebz. Proving grounds are away from the keyboard :wink:

And Panos talking shit about Turks is so funny (and Cicero and his crew talking about Greece), because of that Turkey vs Greece thing which going on for so long. Most people who live in those countries or on Balkans know about it. Not my problem you scandinavian dudes don't know about that :P

While I'm at it why don't throw something fresh and very "racist":

Italy is the new Greece, take that cmpx :P :P
I am a Turk, i born in Turkey , i am a muslim but anyway fuck Turks for the love of panos !
This is not racism and it is weird that a Swedish guy offended by Panos's trololol about Turks . Grow the fuck up.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: polkafranzi on November 11, 2011, 02:49:20 am
I am a Turk, i born in Turkey , i am a muslim but anyway fuck Turks for the love of panos !
This is not racism and it is weird that a Swedish guy offended by Panos's trololol about Turks . Grow the fuck up.

+1
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: RandomDude on November 11, 2011, 02:54:22 am
The question still arises about whether it's acceptable when someone is insulted by it, whether they're from turkey or not.

Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Aelfwine on November 11, 2011, 02:56:39 am
it's a political matter, even when someone is just joking and not meaning to really be racist (if it's true that everything in social life is political).
breaking "taboos" or doing/saying things that are generally disapproved makes them more familiar and acceptable in time, and look like not so grave things to people who haven't formed an idea about yet.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on November 11, 2011, 03:28:44 am
I see you'v meet panos and his alts
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Slamz on November 11, 2011, 09:58:58 am
The question still arises about whether it's acceptable when someone is insulted by it, whether they're from turkey or not.

The other question is whether they are actually insulted by it or whether they just want to see someone get banned, aka, "trolololol".

Of course, it's a easy problem to avoid: stop spouting racism.  But I suspect 90% of it is trolls trolling trolls: people who aren't really racist trying to offend people who aren't really offended.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Vibe on November 11, 2011, 10:06:54 am
I see you'v meet panos and his alts
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Paul on November 11, 2011, 11:02:20 am
Leave Turkey alone! Hard enough being named after an ugly yet delicious bird.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 11, 2011, 11:15:59 am


Get that fkin old avatar back!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Lech on November 11, 2011, 11:23:10 am
But once it happened me and another man being called "useless turks" and was blamed for loosing the round.
Maybe because you screwed up the round ? Most likely. Grow up and deal with it.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Vibe on November 11, 2011, 11:29:35 am
Get that fkin old avatar back!

I fkin lost it by meddling with profile settings D: it was saved on imgur.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 11, 2011, 11:32:17 am
I fkin lost it by meddling with profile settings D: it was saved on imgur.

Get some random sexy chick then instead. Or support the greatest country in the world.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Vibe on November 11, 2011, 11:42:23 am
EL PINK GATO AVATAR
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on November 11, 2011, 11:43:18 am
I saw rasism, too:

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Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 11, 2011, 11:46:35 am
EL PINK GATO AVATAR

I hate cats...especially  8-) Gay Cats!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Wookimonsta on November 11, 2011, 02:34:00 pm
yeh, fuck those crackas, tryin to keep the black man down


also, i am equal opportunity racist, i make racist remarks about whoever i meet.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Razor1 on November 11, 2011, 02:42:58 pm
Did not read all the posts,
but yeah, there seems to be a lot of racism for such a relatively small playerbase.
Or its the same people over and over again spouting racial slurs.

And those people saying stuff like "harden up", "we need more racism" and all that BS are probably closet racists.

I dont like it either.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Dezilagel on November 11, 2011, 04:05:10 pm
I love kebab
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Wookimonsta on November 12, 2011, 12:29:22 am
I love kebab

who doesn't? best german invention, definetly
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kafein on November 12, 2011, 01:17:58 am
I thought it was Roast Beef, or it was like 7 years ago

Some french girl was working in the same bar as me for a month or so and her bf was with her.

They spend all night saying "roast beef" and pissing their sides....

LOL!

Actually yes,"rosbif" is more widely used. Probably because the roast beef is even more dry and devoid of taste than the beef steack ?

Fuck the English. Just like Americans, they have great meat but somehow manage to turn them into tasteless dishes.

North Africa people and Turks have crap meat (old sheep...) and turn them into delicious merguez, pitta, durum, kebab and whatnot.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 12, 2011, 04:08:54 am
I'll have you know that Roast Beef can be tender and full of meaty flavour. All of a sudden I miss home...
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: polkafranzi on November 12, 2011, 04:16:24 am
I'll have you know that Roast Beef can be tender and full of meaty flavour. All of a sudden I miss home...

Da fok are u at blud?
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 12, 2011, 04:18:20 am
About a 30 min walk from home  :lol: student accomodation. I don't tend to go home when I have a shittonne of deadlines to work for. Also I hate leaving the house for the weekend without having sorted stuff like bills and the laundry.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: dreadnok on November 12, 2011, 05:42:21 am
my god the whole world is turning into a bunch of pussies
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: The_Angle on November 12, 2011, 05:48:12 am
For most countries in Europe, one can be arrested for 'hate speech'. Also Turkish folk not being a race in particular, I think the term Xenophobia would be more approperiate than Racism.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 12, 2011, 09:55:24 pm
I am a Turk, i born in Turkey , i am a muslim but anyway TAQWA Turks for the love of panos !
This is not racism and it is weird that a Swedish guy offended by Panos's trololol about Turks . Grow the TAQWA up.

Koyama I didn't get offended by panos, i think his just different thats all and stop making this thread about panos this is about RACISM not panos(even thou he is probably best example of it), + as i said to gnjus, i got him on my steam contacts list.

I just made this thread for people who DOES NOT LIKE too see racism (as it is a bad thing and is disliked in most cultures)
so for the 5th or 10th time i didnt count em, this is NOTHING personal, i did this for a guy who requested me to make this thread because of the racism in EU servers, so i did it, stop bashing me for it pls. There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to have racism banned...
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 12, 2011, 10:08:10 pm
Mean people suck.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 12, 2011, 10:22:57 pm
Yep
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: JihadistMexican on November 12, 2011, 11:07:51 pm
In a Southern Rednecks Accent Like Hobb dem africanus' suck too huh
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Leshma on November 13, 2011, 12:00:00 am
Sorry for late response but...

welsh

sheep shagger :D

scots

englishman :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on November 13, 2011, 12:06:11 am
Yeah its not cool. Should be admin enforced that being a racists douche bag is not okay, they should be, warned/kicked/banned.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Slamz on November 13, 2011, 01:33:38 am
my god the whole world is turning into a bunch of pussies

That's racist!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Atihan on November 13, 2011, 06:56:49 pm
It can effekt the game when someone gets offended by a teammate and goes tk on him and others join thats bad dont let me lose my x5 ;)
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kalitorian on November 15, 2011, 03:39:05 pm
I remember a Yeniceri writing on EU2
"I hate Germans. They should burn in their own KZs."
racism?
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 03:50:29 pm
If Turks are considered to be caucasians, how can this be racism?

I always thought racism involved racial groups, NOT nations. What you guys are talking about is some kind of bigotry towards another ethnic or cultural group with attributes of fascism, nationalism and xenophobia.

This thread is very misleading.

Quote of the year. Leftist Propaganda awrite
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Gnjus on November 15, 2011, 07:18:16 pm
Great example of the new millennium online generation, brainwashed into prejudicing anyone into political context.

Naah, it's just Berengar:

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Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 07:31:31 pm
Great example of the new millennium online generation, brainwashed into prejudicing anyone into political context.

Actually it was a compliment to your comment o.O Maybe i should've put 1 disclaimer after ''Quote of the year''. Lol.


Why do people always take my word out of context and/or read my stuff the wrong way  :( I always mean well!  :cry:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Gnjus on November 15, 2011, 07:35:32 pm
Why do people always take my word out of context and/or read my stuff the wrong way  :( I always mean well!  :cry:

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Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 07:36:59 pm
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YOUR FATHERS ASSHOLE! I TRAGEDY!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Nagasoup on November 15, 2011, 08:35:06 pm
What is inherently wrong with racism? People get offended, so what? Nothing is going to happen if you get offended, grow up. It's a game, just ignore the chatbox and kill people, it's what I do...
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Leshma on November 15, 2011, 08:52:24 pm
Naah, it's just Berengar:

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I remember the time when Berenger wasn't an annoying troll and major douchebag.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 08:57:53 pm
I remember the time when Berenger wasn't an annoying troll and major douchebag.

Lol when? Prior to that i had terrorized COD 4 community alot. Got banned on a couple of servers. Got boring  :o
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Gnjus on November 15, 2011, 08:58:05 pm
I remember the time when Berenger wasn't an annoying troll and major douchebag.

You mean those few seconds during which his father squirted him into his mother's belly ?
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 09:08:03 pm
You mean those few seconds during which his father squirted him into his mother's belly ?

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SHADDUP!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Gnjus on November 15, 2011, 09:13:56 pm
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SHADDUP!

Actually atm i look more like this:

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One of these days i might just prove it with some real life pic and then I might as well just come looking for you, Berenger.  :wink:
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2011, 09:42:36 pm
Actually atm i look more like this:

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One of these days i might just prove it with some real life pic and then I might as well just come looking for you, Berenger.  :wink:

And i'll get Mtemtko to use as a human shield. Come at me brah!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2011, 09:54:26 am
Croatian sea stealing swines
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 16, 2011, 04:39:00 pm
I remember a Yeniceri writing on EU2
"I hate Germans. They should burn in their own KZs."
racism?

I'm sorry for the inconvenience mister, but I cannot take full responsibility for everything that a member of my clan utters in a server.

If Turks are considered to be caucasians, how can this be racism?

I always thought racism involved racial groups, NOT nations. What you guys are talking about is some kind of bigotry towards another ethnic or cultural group with attributes of fascism, nationalism and xenophobia.

This thread is very misleading.

Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination. In the modern English language, the term "racism" is used predominantly as a pejorative epithet. It is applied especially to the practice or advocacy of racial discrimination of a pernicious nature (i.e. which harms particular groups of people), and which is often justified by recourse to racial stereotyping or pseudo-science.

Racism is popularly associated with various activities that are illegal or commonly considered harmful, such as extremism, hatred, xenophobia, (malignant or forced) exploitation, separatism, racial supremacy, mass murder (for the purpose of genocide), genocide denial, vigilantism (hate crimes, terrorism), etc.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Garond_PL on November 16, 2011, 04:43:55 pm
One time i got cicked  maybe for racism. Nationalities who are discriminated against not only the Turks but also Poles (especially the Germans - once for chasing a guy (Carl_das_lahma )who hit me and got a few greys, i got cick from the German admin.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Tyrell on November 16, 2011, 06:45:46 pm
For the love of all things holy, Turkish is not a race!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Kareem on November 16, 2011, 08:35:17 pm
For the love of all things holy, Turkish is not a race!

I have never stated that the Turkic peoples is a race...
Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination. In the modern English language, the term "racism" is used predominantly as a pejorative epithet. It is applied especially to the practice or advocacy of racial discrimination of a pernicious nature (i.e. which harms particular groups of people), and which is often justified by recourse to racial stereotyping or pseudo-science.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 16, 2011, 10:07:58 pm
Please keep this topic off these forums. There is no internet community that can discuss about this thing in this time and age. But if you really think that I am racist when I tell Curtis on ts that he is an English cunt, you should remember that I didn't think he is a cunt because he is English, but because he is a cunt that happens to be English. So same goes for that Turk thing. If some team had lots of Turkish clan players and they lost, someone decided to joke around with it. They are not useless because they are Turks, but because they were "useless" at the time and they still were/are Turks and therefore ---> useless Turks. It means nothing and happens to many other clans as well. It just happens to be that there is some clans with only one nationality in their member base. What about: "Useless Fallens", "Fucking old nab Fallens" etc... Is that racism against Fallen Brigade? No it is just common asshattery :D. And no racism because we are international clan. And it would not be even if we were only Indian Cherokees or what ever you might consider as some kind of a group of people that are pushed around.

I don't want to see "racism" based bans on EU servers. The reason for this statement is that real racists are not smart enough to find Mount & Blade Warband or neither to install cRPG mod to their computer, and that is a fact.

And to OP I would like to quote an old friend of mine:
"Go troll in a hole!"- Decimator


I remember a Yeniceri writing on EU2
"I hate Germans. They should burn in their own KZs."
racism?
You mister, have a nice avatar! Approved
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Tyrell on November 17, 2011, 12:13:36 am
I have never stated that the Turkic peoples is a race...
Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination. In the modern English language, the term "racism" is used predominantly as a pejorative epithet. It is applied especially to the practice or advocacy of racial discrimination of a pernicious nature (i.e. which harms particular groups of people), and which is often justified by recourse to racial stereotyping or pseudo-science.
I'm glad that you can quote the Great Debaters. Have you never played an online game/mod outside of cRPG? You need thicker skin if shit like this still bothers you. No matter the rules, no matter how they're enforced, shit will still happen. Welcome to the internet.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Jacko on November 17, 2011, 12:17:50 am
I never say anything bad about americans.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Vibe on November 17, 2011, 08:48:23 am
Please keep this topic off these forums. There is no internet community that can discuss about this thing in this time and age. But if you really think that I am racist when I tell Curtis on ts that he is an English cunt, you should remember that I didn't think he is a cunt because he is English, but because he is a cunt that happens to be English. So same goes for that Turk thing. If some team had lots of Turkish clan players and they lost, someone decided to joke around with it. They are not useless because they are Turks, but because they were "useless" at the time and they still were/are Turks and therefore ---> useless Turks. It means nothing and happens to many other clans as well. It just happens to be that there is some clans with only one nationality in their member base. What about: "Useless Fallens", "Fucking old nab Fallens" etc... Is that racism against Fallen Brigade? No it is just common asshattery :D. And no racism because we are international clan. And it would not be even if we were only Indian Cherokees or what ever you might consider as some kind of a group of people that are pushed around.

I don't want to see "racism" based bans on EU servers. The reason for this statement is that real racists are not smart enough to find Mount & Blade Warband or neither to install cRPG mod to their computer, and that is a fact.

And to OP I would like to quote an old friend of mine:
"Go troll in a hole!"- Decimator

You mister, have a nice avatar! Approved

well said, fallen nub
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Swahili_Zulu_Mon on November 20, 2011, 06:24:26 am
You should see what they say about friends.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Lanic0r on November 22, 2011, 01:28:39 pm
Oh please,
Turks are natural sensitive individuals (they need love).
I remember Reyiz when we negotiate about a heir loomed thing. And you know what? He was still annoyed because I called him INGAME Idiot 5 months ago :mrgreen:
Dont take them serious, even in Germany they are crying all the time but not for justice, they´re just insolent and try to tease you!
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: B3RS3RK on November 22, 2011, 01:29:42 pm
You should see what they say about friends.

dey Rollin´
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Warcat on November 22, 2011, 02:59:53 pm
You are all weak and inferior. The true master race are the steppe people of Calradia. From Zagush to Ada Kulun, the people of the steppe are smarter, faster, and stronger than the scum that lives elsewhere. (And Zagush has the greatest kitten breeders too!)
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on November 24, 2011, 08:21:18 pm
Maybe ur emotion center is fucked up cuz all of the steroids u guys eat and hallucinate about racism.

Maybe u should try to speak english instead of spamming turkish in main chat, u have teamspeak where u can use ur fine language. If i want to interact in turkish i just order kebab.

Besides how could racism be a crime here if it is not a crime on every country? And why arabs, turks, africans always speak about racism, what i've seen u guys are the biggest racists.

Allahu akbar.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: polkafranzi on November 24, 2011, 09:38:44 pm
And why arabs, turks, africans always speak about racism, what i've seen u guys are the biggest racists.

This.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Bobthehero on November 24, 2011, 10:09:02 pm
Turks are often annoying and highly nationalistic, and it doesn't help that a certain genocide in 1915 ''never'' happened, at least according to them.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 25, 2011, 01:30:15 am
Turks are often annoying and highly nationalistic, and it doesn't help that a certain genocide in 1915 ''never'' happened, at least according to them.

There was a genocide in 1915? Huh..would've never guessed.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Bobthehero on November 25, 2011, 01:31:16 am
Ah right cRPG, no notion of history.

Armenian genocide.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 25, 2011, 01:48:27 am
Ah right cRPG, no notion of history.

Armenian genocide.

What is this so called ''Armenian'' you're talking aboot?
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 25, 2011, 02:22:02 am
Don't feed the trolls...
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Joker86 on November 25, 2011, 02:23:03 am
Come on, don't tell me racist jokes were not funny. I know a shitload of nationality jokes, and to prove that those are only jokes I will start with making some about my own nationality: German!

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How many people fron Dresden can you fit in a mini? - About 25000 if you've got a shovel!

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Heard about the new German-Chinese restaurant? - The food is great, but an hour later, you're hungry for power.

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German: "Two Martinis, bitte."
Barkeeper: "Dry?"
German: "Nein, I said TWO!"

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*Knock Knock*
"Who's there?"
"Gestapo!"
"Gestapo who?"
"Ve vill ask ze questions!"

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A house, inhabited by a Greek on ground level, an Italian on first floor and a German on second, got on fire. Who survived?

The German. He was out practicing marching.

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Tommy, a young English guy, 18 years old, is going off on holiday abroad for the first time in his life. He reckons he's going to get lucky while on holiday. He wants to be prepared so he goes to the local chemist's shop.
 
Tommy: "I'd ...er... like some condoms, please."
 Chemist: "Yes, sir. What size pack would you like?"
 Tommy: "What pack sizes do you have?"
 Chemist: "Well, they come in packs of six, nine and twelve."
 Tommy: "Ah, right. So who uses packs of six?"
 Chemist: "Oh, well, they're really popular with the Italians. Once every day but never on Sundays."
 Tommy: "Ah, right. And who buys packs of 9?"
 Chemist: "Oh, they're very popular with the French. Once every day and twice on Saturdays and Sundays."
 Tommy: "And the packs with 12 in them?"
 Chemist: "Very popular with the Germans, they are. Once in January, once in February..."

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American and a German are out hunting rabbits.
 German aims, shoots and misses by 10mm to the left.
 The rabbit remains still.
 German reaims, fires again and this time misses by 10mm to the right.
 German slings his rifel on his back and walks off.
 American asks, why not shoot again, your sure to hit this time.
 
German replies "on average ze rabbit is dead"

Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Bobthehero on November 25, 2011, 02:32:45 am
Don't feed the trolls...

Tired, wasnt sure, saw the name after, applied the obligatory faceplam, sorryboss.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: LordBerenger on November 25, 2011, 02:48:50 am
Come on, don't tell me racist jokes were not funny. I know a shitload of nationality jokes, and to prove that those are only jokes I will start with making some about my own nationality: German!

We need ze SS jokes naow.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Joker86 on November 25, 2011, 03:13:57 am
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Why are there so many tree lined streets and leafy lanes in France?

Germans like to march in the shade.

That's the only one in this direction I know  :?
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Malaclypse on November 25, 2011, 05:44:03 am
Many colors in the homo rainbow, pick any shade from black to yellow. Many colors in the homo rainbow, a warm embrace and a kind hello.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: theero on November 25, 2011, 10:48:19 am
Maybe ur emotion center is fucked up cuz all of the steroids u guys eat and hallucinate about racism.  (1

Maybe u should try to speak english instead of spamming turkish in main chat, u have teamspeak where u can use ur fine language. If i want to interact in turkish i just order kebab.  (2

Besides how could racism be a crime here if it is not a crime on every country? And why arabs, turks, africans always speak about racism, what i've seen u guys are the biggest racists.  (3

Allahu akbar.  (4

Congratulations Hazaa, once again you prove the need of a slap in your face  :rolleyes: . You must be the worst diplomat ever chosen for a position like yours. Racism is a theme not to be tolerated in any case or place, including cRPG; not only will the mockery of ones origins make a subject feel bad, but it is also a demonstration of ignorance, lack of compassion and generally being an ass-hat. Racism and culture-demeaning talk add NOTHING to anything, thus working only as a populist tool for example in politics (see Hazaa, I'm comparing you to the Finns (PerSut) ). I admit I've also made some bad jokes about different cultures and countries, but never have my intentions were to make anyone rage or be saddened by my sayings. I know reasoning this with you is futile because of your "Who the f*ck cares" -attitude ( (1 ), but I still try to discuss about this because I feel this is an important issue and must be aknowledged. Also, accusations and flaming about things off the topic is just dumb ( (2 ), but also hypocritic in this case, hence we've all wrote stuff in our native languange in the chat, you and me included. Another point is that racism IS a crime in (propably) every western country, Finland included. Others being racist doesn't give you a free pass to lower your own moral standards ( (3 ). And about the fourth mark I made, well, that's just trying to be funny with other peoples expense ( (4 ). F'ck you.
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: karasu on November 25, 2011, 11:21:52 am
I miss panos.  :(
Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Leshma on November 25, 2011, 01:59:04 pm
Catch!

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Title: Re: RACISM
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 25, 2011, 07:21:18 pm
Theero you got trololol'd too badly... I would like to point out that racism is not a crime by itself, BUT all discrimination based on one's gender, origin, age, languague, religion, beliefs, health, opinion, disablement or other personal quality is considered as a crime. You can be racist all by yourself if you want, but you cannot do anything about it, because you are not allowed to act and discriminate anyone. It's still stupid to be a racist, but it is not illegal as long as you don't discriminate, bully, batter or threaten anyone based on those beliefs. We cannot make stupidness (or thoughts) illegal can't we?

Maybe that bullying part is the most relevant when it comes to this community. However I see it as non issue on this talk about Turks. As I described in my earlier post, it is not racist it just happens to be that some clans are mainly Turkish players and those comments on chat are going to be there no matter what the clan is. Some people just want to be "funny" when they say some clan is the blame when they lost the multiplier. Then again the discussion could go on and on to the words we cannot say or should not be allowed to say. The "N"-word for example. I have seen that it is ok to say if you are African American yourself, but no go if you are white. How can we know the skin colour of a player behind the screen and if it is ok? We can't, and therefore it is not a good word to use in the internet at all... But I would suggest just to deal with it. It is nothing personal and it only shows that the person using the "N"- word is immature as hell, so the comments he/she makes are irrelevant after that moment, m'kay? Also just ignore every asshole who tries to make you feel bad because of your qualities, whether it is nationality, skin colour, religion or whatever. They know nothing about you and they are idiots using stereotypes to mock you. Their arguments are invalid and every grown up person knows that.

Apparently there is bad words existing even if I think that a word can never be bad all by itself. I think it all depends on the context, but there is also people who think the other way, so I really don't use some words even if my context is not harmful at all. I just don't want to confuse people in some subjects because I am not a racist and I don't want people to think I am. I talk shit and can be rude sometimes but there is one thing I don't want to mess with and it is racism.

Also you should read more about populism and "true Finns"- party before you accuse them of racism. Political goals and plans are most of the time completely something else than the media wants you to believe. Their goal is not to "keep Finland white", but rather keep Finland helping the people who genuinely need a safer place to live and the ones who want to get a job here and not only live with our tax money for the rest of their days. I don't see any racist thoughts on those goals. They just don't like RL leeching ;)

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I know some of you don't share my opinion and I know that all I wrote here most likely doesn't solve anything. I respect your opinions, but this is mine and I think I said everything I want at this point. I hope this thread would just...
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