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Title: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 01:53:47 pm
Couple mins ago, Ninja_Thomek baned Agor who was last1 against 16 others, he was xbower and he was in reachable spot but thomek is just saying that he's delaying all though he was shooting(=fighting) ?!  AB00ZE

I bet that if Agor would have been in Thomeks team, Thomek wouldn't have done anything

I DEMAND JUSTICE, I DEMAND PUNISHMENT FOR THIS REDICILOUS BAN!  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


EDIT: changed kick to ban, aparantly it was a ban.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 01:57:29 pm
i just dont understand what happened, i was shooting in ruins, no roof or something, couple sec ago my last teammate die, and then Thomek start countdown, witout saying to me something like go spec or something, and than he banned me.

Thomek you was drunk?

Or what reason? if im last and not in the middle of the battle i shoud be banned immidiatly?
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 02:14:57 pm
Well that we all tought too..

Thomeks should be removed from his admin rights AT LEAST

But it was redicilous, he started saying after that "he was delaying, he was gonna die anyway" "wasting our time" "common-sense". It doesn't matter is the last1 gonna die or not if he fights let him fight! different thing is when last1 is just running away and really delaying
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: rufio on November 09, 2011, 02:17:06 pm
i demand thomek become president of crpg, and get god admin powers!!
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Tennenoth on November 09, 2011, 02:21:13 pm
This isn't really the place to say this, that's what the admin feedback threads are for.

On the note of the actual kick, it was only a kick, it may have been a rash decision but sometimes it's what happens. Thomek is known for being an admin who is very strict and it's no surprise that he has a low tolerance to people who seemingly are always the last ones left because they're hiding/on a roof/running or whatever.
Sadly Agor, you're known to be a "valour farmer" whether or not intentionally sometimes it's just one too many that sways the pointer from "accidental survivalist" to "intentional hiding".

I'm taking neither side here but if it was just a kick, just jump back on the server, and get on with the game, no real harm done, let's be honest.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wookimonsta on November 09, 2011, 02:32:25 pm
blanket ban na please, its the only way to stop these injustices
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:37:41 pm
Sir_Agor is a known round delayer / valour leecher.

Also:
Quote from: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 01:53:47 pm
Couple mins ago, Ninja_Thomek kicked Agor who was last1 against 16 others

This alone, by the rule of "common sense" says "jump off that fucking roof you monkey and die, you aint gonna kill 16 by yourself anyway".
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:38:35 pm
Tenne , Thomek banned me, i was not hiding or running, i was not on roof, i was just last and i was shooting, then he start 3 sec countdown and banned me, he dont tell me- go spec, or just kick me, he banned me with no rly reason, i dont break any rules here, it was more then 3 min until round end and it was just after 2 sec when my last teammate die, btw during countdown i headshooted dado. So i think Thomek shoud say sorry to me and unban me ofc, because i do all right.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:40:52 pm
Quote from: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:37:41 pm
Sir_Agor is a known round delayer / valour leecher.

Also:
This alone, by the rule of "common sense" says "jump off that fucking roof you monkey and die, you aint gonna kill 16 by yourself anyway".

Vibe i think it is logical that ranged die last , because im not in middle of the battle.

AND I WAS NOT ON THE ROOF , I WAS IN RUINS
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Bulzur on November 09, 2011, 02:42:04 pm
So, let's face the fact.

One valid reason for Thomek kicking Agor was if he was valour farming. Okay.
Scenario 1 : Agor was indeed valour farming, and deserved a kick. Solved.
Scenario 2 : Agor was not valour farming. No way he could have had valour. No way he could have killed 16 people by himself. So no way he could have kept his multy. Him getting kicked, just fastens ups the issue of the match, and doesn't do anyone wrongs. Since things remain the same, for one exception though :
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Conclusion :
What's all the fuss about ? :rolleyes:

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Edit :
Okay, need to get things straigth, thanks Wiltzy for stating nonsense in OP, or conflicting with Agor's theory. Was it a kick, or ban ? If it was a kick, it's perfectly normal.
If it was a ban, probably a small one, i'll still support it personnaly, but we need more information than the victim claiming he's innocent (as usual).

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Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Jacko on November 09, 2011, 02:43:56 pm
How is kicking Agor not a solution?

Christ.. I never seen him do anything but delaying.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:45:24 pm
Quote from: Bulzur on November 09, 2011, 02:42:04 pm
So, let's face the fact.

One valid reason for Thomek kicking Agor was if he was valour farming. Okay.
Scenario 1 : Agor was indeed valour farming, and deserved a kick. Solved.
Scenario 2 : Agor was not valour farming. No way he could have had valour. No way he could have killed 16 people by himself. So no way he could have kept his multy. Him getting kicked, just fastens ups the issue of the match, and doesn't do anyone wrongs. Since things remain the same, for one exception though :
(click to show/hide)



Conclusion :
What's all the fuss about ? :rolleyes:

(click to show/hide)


bulzur i was not delaing my teamamte just died in couple sec ago. and it will be no problem if he just wrong kicked me but he BANNED me.
And what not admin shoud just type 3 2 1 and ban? it is no time even go spec or understand what he is doing. Or admin shoud not say something like- go spectate?
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:46:27 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:40:52 pm
Vibe i think it is logical that ranged die last , because im not in middle of the battle.

AND I WAS NOT ON THE ROOF , I WAS IN RUINS

Nice excuse, except...

everyone knows you delay

EVERY

FUCKING

ROUND

Please, die in an avalanche.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:48:45 pm
oh fuck sry that im not 2h and you need time to run to me and kill me, or what i shoud come drop weapon and say kill me my lord?
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Tennenoth on November 09, 2011, 02:51:14 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:38:35 pm
Tenne , Thomek banned me, i was not hiding or running, i was not on roof, i was just last and i was shooting, then he start 3 sec countdown and banned me, he dont tell me- go spec, or just kick me, he banned me with no rly reason, i dont break any rules here, it was more then 3 min until round end and it was just after 2 sec when my last teammate die, btw during countdown i headshooted dado. So i think Thomek shoud say sorry to me and unban me ofc, because i do all right.

Post an unban then, as I said, i'm not taking sides, i don't know the whole story so anything I say would be stupid and uninformed.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:51:34 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:48:45 pm
oh fuck sry that im not 2h and you need time to run to me and kill me, or what i shoud come drop weapon and say kill me my lord?

Yes, when there's 16 other people and you're the last one then yes, you fucking surrender (go die in melee).
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Bulzur on November 09, 2011, 02:53:04 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:45:24 pm
bulzur i was not delaing my teamamte just died in couple sec ago.

Delaying doesn't only mean staying the last one alive for more than 20sec.
Delaying means not doing anything to quickening the absolute battle fate.

I assume that, as always, you were FAR FAR AWAY from the battle, and while all your teammates got slaughtered, the only thing you did was move away from the battlefield. It's then pretty obvious that, just because of you, the round gets longer. And rounds getting longer because of one person, means that person was delaying.

Seriously, you should just change your ingame attitude, if the only thing you can do is being a lone sniper, missing more than half his targets, never helping his teammates in any other way than killing the ennemies coming in your range, and, of course, milking the multy your teammates have earned, then something is wrong, and you should consider playing SP.


Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:45:24 pm
and it will be no problem if he just wrong kicked me but he BANNED me.

As i edited previously, blame Wiltzu for having posted inaccurate facts in the beginning, saying you were "kicked". Since he seems to be your defense lawyer, i'm pretty sure you're screwed.

On more serious matter, this becomes a bigger issue, and as said earlier, we need more information. And how long was the ban too.

Anyway, don't try to find in me someone understanding your cause. But i'll also let others decide by themselves if that judgement was acceptable, or an abuse. I'm maybe biaised in hating your playstyle, so i'll refrain posting more biaised comments in this topic.

Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 02:54:47 pm
Quote from: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:37:41 pm
Sir_Agor is a known round delayer / valour leecher.

Also:
This alone, by the rule of "common sense" says "jump off that fucking roof you monkey and die, you aint gonna kill 16 by yourself anyway".

He wasn't roof camping, there were no roofs...
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:57:56 pm
Quote from: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 02:54:47 pm
He wasn't roof camping, there were no roofs...

I don't know the details this time, but all rounds with Agor playing usually ended up with him staying on a (barely reachable) roof to leech valour.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 02:59:28 pm
Quote from: Tennenoth on November 09, 2011, 02:21:13 pm
This isn't really the place to say this, that's what the admin feedback threads are for.

On the note of the actual kick, it was only a kick, it may have been a rash decision but sometimes it's what happens. Thomek is known for being an admin who is very strict and it's no surprise that he has a low tolerance to people who seemingly are always the last ones left because they're hiding/on a roof/running or whatever.
Sadly Agor, you're known to be a "valour farmer" whether or not intentionally sometimes it's just one too many that sways the pointer from "accidental survivalist" to "intentional hiding".

I'm taking neither side here but if it was just a kick, just jump back on the server, and get on with the game, no real harm done, let's be honest.

If I have putted this to a wrong thread, I'm sorry. Then move this to the right1, but in my opinion this is also some what general.

This is like some fucking Soviet Union, if you're too good you get a pass to slave camp in here it's a ban..  :| It's poor reason to ban the one who's last one to be alive if he's for example archers, archers are not in front of the line they're behind=usually last ones to die.

And he wasn't delaying ffs, he was fighting.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 03:01:54 pm
im allreadu unbanned, i was right im sure, now thomek you became an enemy i will allways hunt you down
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 03:03:34 pm
Quote from: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 02:59:28 pm
If I have putted this to a wrong thread, I'm sorry. Then move this to the right1, but in my opinion this is also some what general.

This is like some fucking Soviet Union, if you're too good you get a pass to slave camp in here it's a kick..  :| It's poor reason to kick the one who's last one to be alive if he's for example archers, archers are not in front of the line they're behind=usually last ones to die.

+1

and ty Wiltzu for defending me, i think no1 cares, i just write to thomek when it happened , but he even dont answered to me
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 03:05:19 pm
Vibe

I was there man it was redicilous, well it seems it was ban so it was redicilous ban. I hate delayers, they should be kicked as soon as possible, but with warnings first ofc. But if you're reachable you have right to fight.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: karasu on November 09, 2011, 03:11:00 pm
Quote from: Jacko on November 09, 2011, 02:43:56 pm
How is kicking Agor not a solution?

Christ.. I never seen him do anything but delaying.

He's just being an X-bower when Thomek uses the Force, blame the Jackie Syndrome.

It's like having an epileptic in a trance party with the Strobe directly in his eyes, shit has to hit the fan.

Be thankful it's not a 365 day ban.

 :oops:
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 03:19:48 pm
Quote from: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 03:05:19 pm
Vibe

I was there man it was redicilous, well it seems it was ban so it was redicilous ban. I hate delayers, they should be kicked as soon as possible, but with warnings first ofc. But if you're reachable you have right to fight.

Did he fight or did he delay (aka run away, reload, shoot, run away...)?

Maybe if you explain in more detail what happened in the end it would help solve this.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 03:21:35 pm
Agor, you always delay, I've kicked you many times before for that.

I warned you, you didn't react. A kick doesn't do anything to help you change your behaviour, so I gave you a 1h ban. Next time I see you hanging out at map edge last one alive, I'll give you 2h. Next time after that 4h etc.

If you waste 30 secs of 100 peoples time that's like wasting 3000 secs of peoples time. When you do this several times a day, you do the calculations.

Notorious time wasters like you need a lesson.

If there was any chance you would have won, I wouldn't have kicked you, but I played cRPG since the beginning, and I can spot whether or not you have a chance. Also, I wouldn't have kicked you if you went melee after warning..
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 03:23:37 pm
Thomek for president!
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 03:29:56 pm
thomek im not melee, as melee weapon i have stick, im xbow, so i reload and shoot, i know that i cant win- yes, but what was it 3 2 1 - ban? cant say just go spectate? you even dont give me chance make something, i was not running away or hiding, i was fighting (shooting because im xbow)

and i was kicked only 1 time , and it was you, if you remember situation with reacheble roof, i remember it and i dont use it when im last, but here was like 2 sec after last teammate die, i was not even on some hard place. i didnt expect it from you thomek, i think you feel power, you hate me, that why you kick/ban me, and only you do it, no1 else
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 03:36:24 pm
What is this thread? Another one of those "Admin kicked/banned me cuz I am an idiot with no balls but I am not an idiot in my eyes so this admin should lose his powers!"-thread of some 16yo kids? Oo

Thomek is playing cRPG longer than you are. And when I look at your posts hes older than you are. So you little pinky schoolgirls should stop whining and bitching and obey and respect your elders. goddamnit. Thomek is playing long enough. He earned himself some goddamn fucking respect. And his admin-status was not given to him cuz he smiled nice. If you hunt him down I will hunt you down. And I am sure I am not the only one that does so.

And even IF Thomek made a mistake - maybe he miss-clicked and got the ban-button instead of the kick-button... hes human, too. Dont tell me you never made a mistake. (If you morons try to tell me: this thread is a mistake, so stfu.)

Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:38:35 pm
[...] and it was just after 2 sec when my last teammate die,[...]
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:45:24 pm
[...] bulzur i was not delaing my teamamte just died in couple sec ago. [...]
So its getting longer now... Three more posts and we are at 2 minutes, aight?

Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:48:45 pm
oh fuck sry that im not 2h
Yes, you should be sorry. Go do a respec. Noob.

Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 02:48:45 pm
or what i shoud come drop weapon and say kill me my lord?
Would be a beginning...


Vibe there is NO sense in letting those little kids describe how it was. They will change some small details to make it look like they are not guilty. We should wait for an adult informant or Thomek himself (He wrote his statement, while I wrote this post).

But who cares anyway?

THOMEK STAYS!
cuz little brainless noobs like you got not enough balls to bring him down.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: cmp on November 09, 2011, 03:45:02 pm
Quote from: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:51:34 pm
Yes, when there's 16 other people and you're the last one then yes, you fucking surrender (go die in melee).

This is some serious bullshit.
Just FYI, shooting at people from a reachable place as last man standing is not delaying. Even if you're on the other side of the map.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2011, 03:47:07 pm
Quote from: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 03:36:24 pm
So its getting longer now... Three more posts and we are at 2 minutes, aight?


Yo Niemand, couple = 2. First he said 2 secs, then he said couple secs. How is it getting longer?
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 03:48:25 pm
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on November 09, 2011, 03:45:02 pm
This is some serious bullshit.
Just FYI, shooting at people from a reachable place as last man standing is not delaying. Even if you're on the other side of the map.


this , ty. i hope thomek will never do it to me now
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Belmont on November 09, 2011, 03:52:38 pm
I have seen Thomek label some people as 'delayers' when they're clearly fighting in a reachable spot (even melee fighters have been a victim of this). I was not present when Agor was banned but I know that Agor rarely delays.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 03:55:46 pm
Quote from: Xant on November 09, 2011, 03:47:07 pm
Yo Niemand, couple = 2. First he said 2 secs, then he said couple secs. How is it getting longer?
"a couple" = "2 seconds"
"just died couple seconds ago" = "2+ seconds"

So go away, let me do my trolling.


Quote from: cmpxchg8b on November 09, 2011, 03:45:02 pm
This is some serious bullshit.
Just FYI, shooting at people from a reachable place as last man standing is not delaying. Even if you're on the other side of the map.
You better start being quiet now. Stop siding with morons without ballz. Or your own ballz will become smaller and smaller... and I guess you dont want that, aight? Just be cayrfull. I iz wutchin yoz!


Quote from: Belmont on November 09, 2011, 03:52:38 pm
I have seen Thomek label some people as 'delayers' when they're clearly fighting in a reachable spot (even melee fighters have been a victim of this). I was not present when Agor was banned but I know that Agor rarely delays.
This statement is bought and false. Stop lying.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Belmont on November 09, 2011, 04:01:32 pm
@ Niemand

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Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: cmp on November 09, 2011, 04:03:54 pm
Quote from: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 03:55:46 pm
You better start being quiet now. Stop siding with morons without ballz. Or your own ballz will become smaller and smaller... and I guess you dont want that, aight? Just be cayrfull.

I'm not siding with anyone (yet), I was replying to Vibe.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Gnjus on November 09, 2011, 04:09:40 pm
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Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 04:12:32 pm
I agree with cmp.

This game is to have some fun. If there's 1vs(example)15 the last1 can fight, it doesnt matter a shit does he have a chance or not. If you're dead and watching and being bored and then saying this is delaying (it's delaying if you're running/roof camping/being outreach) it's your own fault (if tk'd, then your teamm8s fault) that you're dead.

And seriously, if thomek would've been the last1 to stay alive he wouldn't have kicked himself.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 04:17:18 pm
Quote from: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 04:12:32 pm
I agree with cmp.

This game is to have some fun. If there's 1vs(example)15 the last1 can fight, it doesnt matter a shit does he have a chance or not. If you're dead and watching and being bored and then saying this is delaying (it's delaying if you're running/roof camping/being outreach) it's your own fault (if tk'd, then your teamm8s fault) that you're dead.

And seriously, if thomek would've been the last1 to stay alive he wouldn't have kicked himself.

+1, when thomek flanking , kill all there , and stay 1 alive he dont kick himself, and dont care how much time it take to run to enemys. i think he just dont like w8 new round if he die fast, and hate me personally because i shoot him, this is why he kick 1 time me and niw banned me for 1h.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 04:18:55 pm
Nothing wrong in being the last one alive, and of course everyone has the right to kill as many as they can before they die. But certain people abooze this fact to the max. Agor was far away from battle, and it's not the first time.. I would call it pure trolling of the timewasting kind. Sitting on some little rule and snoozing it to the max. Too bad the first rule, and the rule overruling all other rules is called common sense.

A kick does nothing to these trolls, u need to be hard on repeated offenders. We also don't need an influx of players who "bend the rules" and try to maximize time waste and annoyance of honest players.

Seems to me some people never played with other kids in the schoolyard. Yep u are being a lame ass, and we don't want to play with you. Just because it's the internets doesn't mean it's not the same thing.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 04:21:49 pm
thomek you know that my last teammate die 2 sec ago, and he was killed close to this ruins by dado. so i was not on other side of the map, i was where my team try to defend. or i lie? and what do you? type 3 2 1 , you even dont said- go spectate or go suicide with your stick, you just give me 3 sec and banned me, i think it is wrong
 and how cmp said
Quote from: cmpxchg8b on November 09, 2011, 03:45:02 pm
shooting at people from a reachable place as last man standing is not delaying. Even if you're on the other side of the map.
so i dont break any rule, you just want to respawn a bit faster.

and i never try to delay, i allways jump down from roofs, i never run away if i have no chance, i care about my statistic, i want kill ppl and die not much it is true, im ranged i stay behind and shoot, if i do it good, if i know where to retreat, then ofc i stay last.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 04:29:44 pm
No. You are a notorious Valour farmer. I've seen enough of you to know that. Anyone want to support me in that claim? Please do reply.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Blondin on November 09, 2011, 04:29:47 pm
Abooze!!

Or

Ban xbowmy old frienddelayer!!

Make your choice...
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Kerrigan on November 09, 2011, 04:30:38 pm
I do support that accusation Thomek. And as many people know I play quite a lot to see it happening.

Sir Agor is an annoying VALOUR farmer as everybody knows. He is always on the roof camping shooting his xbow waiting for everyone of his team to die. No contribution to the team whatsoever.

I'm sorry but these kind of people definately deserve a kick and if it repeatedly happens a temp ban.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 04:31:09 pm
Quote from: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 04:29:44 pm
No. You are a notorious Valour farmer. I've seen enough of you to know that. Anyone want to support me in that claim? Please do reply.

so you hate me that i have valour a lot? i dont think that i can have it only for dieing last, i think you shoud kill also enough

Quote from: Kerrigan on November 09, 2011, 04:30:38 pm
I do support that accusation Thomek. And as many people know I play quite a lot to see it happening.

Sir Agor is an annoying VALOUR farmer as everybody knows. He is always on the roof camping shooting his xbow waiting for everyone of his team to die. No contribution to the team whatsoever.

I'm sorry but these kind of people definately deserve a kick and if it repeatedly happens a temp ban.

if you dont like ranged, just go make noranged server and play there, and tell me what range shoud do? i think it is logical if i try find high spot and shoot every1  because range stay behind they die last also if you cant understand this....
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 04:43:00 pm
Quote from: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 04:18:55 pm
Nothing wrong in being the last one alive, and of course everyone has the right to kill as many as they can before they die. But certain people abooze this fact to the max. Agor was far away from battle, and it's not the first time.. I would call it pure trolling of the timewasting kind. Sitting on some little rule and snoozing it to the max. Too bad the first rule, and the rule overruling all other rules is called common sense.

A kick does nothing to these trolls, u need to be hard on repeated offenders. We also don't need an influx of players who "bend the rules" and try to maximize time waste and annoyance of honest players.

Seems to me some people never played with other kids in the schoolyard. Yep u are being a lame ass, and we don't want to play with you. Just because it's the internets doesn't mean it's not the same thing.

Dude, according the underlined txt you shouldn't have banned him, but you did. I didn't see any delay what so ever dude.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 04:46:54 pm
and thomek said i overuling 1 rule, it is rule i dont break any rules, but you thomek dont respect rules , all what you can say is common sense, and ofc only you have it, if you dont like w8 other players go eu2 and enjoy siege, in battle if you die fast you shoud w8 , thats how it work.

and how i know from rules you shoud said to me before with admin chat reason before you ban me, not this 3 2 1 countdown, and than you shoud kick me 3 times, only then if i dont understand and still break the rule you can ban me, this is how it shoud be.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: B3RS3RK on November 09, 2011, 04:47:58 pm
Tohmek very very bad!

Injustice!

I love thomek, but

a very difficult game, and ban hard.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 04:48:35 pm
Quote from: Kerrigan on November 09, 2011, 04:30:38 pm
I do support that accusation Thomek. And as many people know I play quite a lot to see it happening.

Sir Agor is an annoying VALOUR farmer as everybody knows. He is always on the roof camping shooting his xbow waiting for everyone of his team to die. No contribution to the team whatsoever.

I'm sorry but these kind of people definately deserve a kick and if it repeatedly happens a temp ban.

Agree with the underlined txt. But this wasn't the case here, again he wasn't delaying
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Camaris on November 09, 2011, 04:56:51 pm
Quote from: Wiltzu on November 09, 2011, 04:48:35 pm
Agree with the underlined txt. But this wasn't the case here, again he wasn't delaying
Yes because he was kicked. ;)
How can you delay if you are no more at the server.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 09, 2011, 05:14:03 pm
I agree he is always roofcamping, but as a dedicated crossbowman i really think he should have the rights to do so. But if the round is near end and you are still camping id say it is just trolling the rest who are dead.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Christo on November 09, 2011, 05:17:10 pm
Quote from: B3RS3RK on November 09, 2011, 04:47:58 pm
Tohmek very very bad!

Injustice!

I love thomek, but

a very difficult game, and ban hard.

 :lol:

Just wanted to post it, nice job.  8-)
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: B3RS3RK on November 09, 2011, 05:23:08 pm
Haha thanks :D

It´s important to keep the cRPG Meme culture alive :D
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Christo on November 09, 2011, 05:25:53 pm
Heck yes, I agree definitely.

Idlewild

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Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 05:28:04 pm
Quote from: Gravoth_iii on November 09, 2011, 05:14:03 pm
I agree he is always roofcamping, but as a dedicated crossbowman i really think he should have the rights to do so. But if the round is near end and you are still camping id say it is just trolling the rest who are dead.


Gravoth are you blind? this map was without roofs, and yes i think it is logical, if in game is possobility to make dedicated xbow/archer for sniping, so it is allowed to stay away and shoot so long how you can, all know that if im last and on some roof reacheble or not, i allways come down, and this is true, this situatian is just about- Thomek care about his time and fun only, and he dont care about mine, so he dont say reason , he dont warning me( this 3 2 1 countdown in 3 sec dont said much) and he dont kicked me, he banned me, but by the rules he shoud say reason , warned me, then kicked me, and if i come back and do that again- then he can ban me, so im sure he was wrong, and he shoud say sorry to me for that!!!
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:29:10 pm
Agor is a know dealyer/valour farmer and roof hugger, good one Thomek! That will teach that bundle of sticks to stop wasting all of our time with his delaying.

Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: bonekuukkeli on November 09, 2011, 05:29:21 pm
I was online at that moment.

What Thomek did, was justified. You have been delaying every day on every map. You were hiding in those ruins most of that round / map and didn't come as surprise that you were again, last one. Thomek gave 3 2 1 countdown before acting and you were still in those ruins.

Thomek is admin that I give full respect. He doesnt care if player is "known or famous" or anything. You do against rules, you get kicked / banned.

And... kicking someone who always delays doesnt help, he just join back and continues doing same. Ban for couple hours helps, like that you actually feel same what we other players feel while waiting for your delaying every single round, every single map.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 05:31:52 pm
Quote from: bonekuukkeli on November 09, 2011, 05:29:21 pm
I was online at that moment.

What Thomek did, was justified. You have been delaying every day on every map. You were hiding in those ruins most of that round / map and didn't come as surprise that you were again, last one. Thomek gave 3 2 1 countdown before acting and you were still in those ruins.

Thomek is admin that I give full respect. He doesnt care if player is "known or famous" or anything. You do against rules, you get kicked / banned.

And... kicking someone who always delays doesnt help, he just join back and continues doing same. Ban for couple hours helps, like that you actually feel same what we other players feel while waiting for your delaying every single round, every single map.

Quote from: cmpxchg8b on November 09, 2011, 03:45:02 pm
shooting at people from a reachable place as last man standing is not delaying. Even if you're on the other side of the map.

see that, i was ok, i was not breaking any rules
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:33:26 pm
Quote from: Belmont on November 09, 2011, 03:52:38 pm
I have seen Thomek label some people as 'delayers' when they're clearly fighting in a reachable spot (even melee fighters have been a victim of this). I was not present when Agor was banned but I know that Agor rarely delays.

Ahhahahah seriously?! Agor is the worse dealyer iv seen in ages, not only is he the last mad standing 90% of the time he also: Camps roofs and any other elevated place reachable or not, he destroys ladders and basicaly wastes time against impossible ods.

Justified ban, it will teach delayers a lesson, QQ more valour whores
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: bonekuukkeli on November 09, 2011, 05:35:53 pm
You were not "breaking rules" but if you do such every single time, you are exploiting them.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2011, 05:36:48 pm
This is my favorite Thomek on the Citadel.


God bless the 1st "asshat rule" amendment.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:39:39 pm
Quote from: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 03:21:35 pm
Agor, you always delay, I've kicked you many times before for that.

I warned you, you didn't react. A kick doesn't do anything to help you change your behaviour, so I gave you a 1h ban. Next time I see you hanging out at map edge last one alive, I'll give you 2h. Next time after that 4h etc.

If you waste 30 secs of 100 peoples time that's like wasting 3000 secs of peoples time. When you do this several times a day, you do the calculations.

Notorious time wasters like you need a lesson.

If there was any chance you would have won, I wouldn't have kicked you, but I played cRPG since the beginning, and I can spot whether or not you have a chance. Also, I wouldn't have kicked you if you went melee after warning..

Quoted for mucho truth. Agor is just QQing cause he cant leech valour and be an asshole anymore
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2011, 05:40:50 pm
Quote from: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:39:39 pm
Quoted for mucho truth. Agor is just QQing cause he cant leech valour and be an asshole anymore


Maybe he's part of those poor people that only get their kicks by being twats to others.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 05:47:49 pm
Quote from: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:39:39 pm
Quoted for mucho truth. Agor is just QQing cause he cant leech valour and be an asshole anymore

wow who said it? usual melee fighter umbra the noob? who never top scoreboard and cry a lot about ranged? think yes it is you
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Falka on November 09, 2011, 05:48:35 pm
Quote from: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:29:10 pm
Agor is a know dealyer/valour farmer and roof hugger, good one Thomek! That will teach that bundle of sticks to stop wasting all of our time with his delaying.
+1  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:57:50 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 05:47:49 pm
wow who said it? usual ranged roof hugger Agor the noob? who never top scoreboard and cry a lot about ban? think yes it is you

Goes both ways m8
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 05:58:38 pm
Quote from: bonekuukkeli on November 09, 2011, 05:35:53 pm
You were not "breaking rules" but if you do such every single time, you are exploiting them.
wait... there is no rule against exploiting the rules? Oo

CHANGE THAT!

Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 05:47:49 pm
wow who said it? usual melee fighter umbra the noob? who never top scoreboard and cry a lot about ranged? think yes it is you
Wow Wow Wow Hookah! you better stop bitchin against Umbra. Or to speak in your language: I is not like you insult Umbra. You nice be to have. Yoda english better is speaking. Wait. What?...

Agor it seems you got only 1 friend. you may reconsider opening up a whore. urrr i mean "starting a war".

Edit: You are no ranged-unit. You are just some ballless lowjohn with an xbow. Go Respec.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: B3RS3RK on November 09, 2011, 06:00:27 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 05:47:49 pm
wow who said it? usual melee fighter umbra the noob? who never top scoreboard and cry a lot about ranged? think yes it is you

Umbra already topped scoreboards when you didnt even know how to buy stuff in cRPG.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Herkkutatti on November 09, 2011, 06:11:58 pm
thomek is my old friend, bad admin.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 06:15:26 pm
I swear to god, people that complain here do it something like this:

Thomek very very bad !!

injustice ! !
 I love Thomek but

 a very difficult game, Thomek  and hit hard


for reference see http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,20116.0.html
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 06:17:41 pm
niemand you are just troll, i never have seen you in game, or you are just on bot of scoreboard, and probably you die fast , so i never can see you.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2011, 06:27:13 pm
Quote from: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:37:41 pm


 you aint gonna kill 16 by yourself anyway".

Phyrex would've done it.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: bonekuukkeli on November 09, 2011, 06:27:20 pm
General rules (some of which you might be interested in this case):

 •No exploiting of any kind

•No drawing/delaying the round on purpose (i.e. running away or camping unreachable places when you're one of the last people alive)

See? Yes it wasnt "unreachable place" if you jump around ruin walls for a while. But it's common sense, you were delaying as always on purpose.

•Glitching is allowed, being an asshat isn't
◦NOT OK: hiding when last man standing (i.e. delaying)

Breaking a rule may net you a warning, mute, kick or ban at admin discretion depending on severity of rule broken and player history (yes, repeated offenders are treated more harshly). In minor offences you usually get a written warning first, in more severe cases you might get kicked or even banned immediately.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 06:49:35 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 06:17:41 pm
niemand you are just troll, i never have seen you in game, or you are just on bot of scoreboard, and probably you die fast , so i never can see you.

You moron.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038345356/screenshot/630730047509196438
"Bauchnabelfluse" ("Bellybuttonwool") is me. So you maybe should just stfu and grow some balls. And maybe should go to school instead of trying to troll a troll.

I played cRPG when the Coco's were roaming about the land... when Archers wore Bride-Dresses and when xBows were not used by every shittard out there. I saw Armies of Tincans on Battleservers. I saw how the Siege-Mode got implemented. I got banned in TW-Forumz cuz there were no own cRPG-Forumz. I was able to watch Uthred and Wookiemonster fighting under the banner of the Guards. I was able to get EXP only when I was staying in the middle of the battle. I saw people with green and pink hair... You dont know me? Well... dude. You may want to open your crusty gloomy eyes, rub those fat glasses clean and start seeing.

Btw: Maybe you dont know it but... being on top of the scoreboard does count shit. The only thing that counts is the fun you have. And that your team wins. Idiots like you who delay games will never understand that. Did you do your respec already? If not: STFU XBooner. Get some skill.



EDIT:
Want some moar?
- http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541776979710427910/C9B91D5CD4EEEB328503BA202053EF22156CBEC1/
- http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/542901600341781682/EEE83E236AB6A8C49F9EFB12681B5E8BEB0BBA8A/
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Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on November 09, 2011, 06:50:59 pm
Quote from: Vibe on November 09, 2011, 02:46:27 pm
Nice excuse, except...

everyone knows you delay

EVERY

FUCKING

ROUND



pretty much this

and you love to make the server rage by telling us every f****** round you get valor

i dont beliee thomek needs a reason to ban you, it should have been done before following the rule of common sense

but im a bit intolerant...
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 06:56:38 pm
Yah. Just Permaban that Kid. Would solve at least one problem.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Overdriven on November 09, 2011, 07:05:09 pm
Agor does delay excessively and I've seen him camping some ridiculous corner of the map until he's the last, which does deserve a kick if he is the last one.

BUT I've also seen Thomek warn/kick people for delaying who were just fighting their class. As far as Thomek is usually concerned delaying is if you're not fighting in melee.

If you're still alive and fighting and not breaking the rules by being unreachable/whatever, then you are not delaying.

Personally I think they are both as bad as each other.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 09, 2011, 07:25:30 pm
Quote from: Sir_Agor on November 09, 2011, 05:28:04 pm


Gravoth are you blind? this map was without roofs, and yes i think it is logical, if in game is possobility to make dedicated xbow/archer for sniping, so it is allowed to stay away and shoot so long how you can, all know that if im last and on some roof reacheble or not, i allways come down, and this is true, this situatian is just about- Thomek care about his time and fun only, and he dont care about mine, so he dont say reason , he dont warning me( this 3 2 1 countdown in 3 sec dont said much) and he dont kicked me, he banned me, but by the rules he shoud say reason , warned me, then kicked me, and if i come back and do that again- then he can ban me, so im sure he was wrong, and he shoud say sorry to me for that!!!

I wasnt there when this happened, so i dont know what map it was, but still my point is that whenever there is a roof you camp it. Im fine with this but just saying you should jump down when there is like 5 people left on your team or something like that to prevent delaying.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Herkkutatti on November 09, 2011, 07:26:36 pm
Quote from: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 06:49:35 pm
You moron.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038345356/screenshot/630730047509196438
"Bauchnabelfluse" ("Bellybuttonwool") is me. So you maybe should just stfu and grow some balls. And maybe should go to school instead of trying to troll a troll.

I played cRPG when the Coco's were roaming about the land... when Archers wore Bride-Dresses and when xBows were not used by every shittard out there. I saw Armies of Tincans on Battleservers. I saw how the Siege-Mode got implemented. I got banned in TW-Forumz cuz there were no own cRPG-Forumz. I was able to watch Uthred and Wookiemonster fighting under the banner of the Guards. I was able to get EXP only when I was staying in the middle of the battle. I saw people with green and pink hair... You dont know me? Well... dude. You may want to open your crusty gloomy eyes, rub those fat glasses clean and start seeing.

Btw: Maybe you dont know it but... being on top of the scoreboard does count shit. The only thing that counts is the fun you have. And that your team wins. Idiots like you who delay games will never understand that. Did you do your respec already? If not: STFU XBooner. Get some skill.



EDIT:
Want some moar?
- http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541776979710427910/C9B91D5CD4EEEB328503BA202053EF22156CBEC1/
- http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/542901600341781682/EEE83E236AB6A8C49F9EFB12681B5E8BEB0BBA8A/
- http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541774443007411522/F90E2FAED625F38CFFB274B306771A5DB451EF29/
WOW EPIC SCORES :O
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Spleen on November 09, 2011, 08:08:15 pm
Quote from: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 04:29:44 pm
You are a notorious Valour farmer.

/signed

AND jackie did it better
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: justme on November 09, 2011, 08:15:55 pm
if anyone else was last guy, i would undestand, but agor, a well know delayer, every time runs from battle.. +1 for thomek
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: bonekuukkeli on November 09, 2011, 08:30:16 pm
Not sure about name of map but it's that "valley" with long walls and ruins on both sides. One team spawns inside ruins with gate and ladders to top of it, other next to wall, often all players top of eachother. Agor was hiding up in ruins other side of that map (ruins at hill), behind wall and archer-tower.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Bulzur on November 09, 2011, 08:37:53 pm
Quote from: Thomek on November 09, 2011, 04:29:44 pm
No. You are a notorious Valour farmer. I've seen enough of you to know that. Anyone want to support me in that claim? Please do reply.


Whole support.
Well, okay, not whole support. Why the hell did you only ban him for 1h, ban him for 1week already....

Agor is a known valour leecher, who doesn't care about his team at all. He's exploiting that since the beginning, and i'm glad he finally got his first ban.

I'm an archer myself (yes, a filthy ranged guy). How come i never got kicked for "playing" ? Probably because i'm not a valour leecher camping far far away from the main battle, who cary an honest melee weapon and uses it when melee manage to reach me. That's how it is.

Nothing lamer than range using clubs, just plainly blocking attacks, not even couterattacking, wich is.... DELAYING. You give Phyrex, and whatever other guys a chance, because they "fight" back. Agor can only shoot, reload, shoot, run away, reload, shoot, grab his club, block 5 times, without even trying to fight back, then finally dieing. When you're the last one, that's delaying. When you're in the middle of 3 lance cav, downblocking with your mace, jumping away from couched lance, in the first minute, while the rest of your teammates do their job, then you're me, and you're awesome.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: _Sebastian_ on November 09, 2011, 09:35:58 pm
What a childish discussion...

This is just another range-hate thread.

Agor is a nice and fair player...
and he was banned, because he played in his most effective way as xbower.
He isn't useless for the team, he often tops the board and has a nice score.

Why ranged should go im melee, when they are the last one?
When an archer or a xbower has a few arrows/bolts left, then it isn't wrong that he is still shoting.

Is it fair to ban someone who has another playstyle than the most players?
Agor is a xbow sniper and needs another tactic than a brainless "Rambo" (who runs in melee and die fast), to be effective.

So Agor broke no rules and there was no reason to ban him.
It's just the hatred against ranged players... And I know that many players would like to see,
that ranged weapons are deleted from crpg.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Niemand on November 09, 2011, 09:55:14 pm
Quote from: joosto on November 09, 2011, 07:26:36 pm
WOW EPIC SCORES :O
Not everyone can be a Spammer like you. And I am just starting to find some playstyle that brings kills AND feels right.




"X-Bow Sniper" Thats like you would say "He's a chocolate chip cookie-communist!"

As an Archer I say: Hes a skillless coward with less ballz then my 3-day-old-sister-that-i-dont-have. He should just do a respec.

This is not a ranged-hate-thread since that "ranged" guy is not a ranged guy. Hes using an xbow cuz he has not the balls to fight in closequartercombat. And I bet he hasnt got the skills for blocking or attacking right. Also he got no skills for aiming, because hes using a XBow and not a Bow.

So... no sir, this is not about ranged. For me this is about some idiots insulting the dear Thomek (who never behaved wrongly while I was there...) and about an XBower thats delaying every round (i dun even know him, but he talks like he is lying... and i know THAT.) and tries to have an admin banned that did take away one hour of leeching and delaying from him. So no sir. youre wrong. go away.
Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: polkafranzi on November 10, 2011, 12:58:02 am
bump

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Title: Re: I DEMAND JUSTICE!
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on November 10, 2011, 01:08:33 am
Agor you are even delaying the game when you play on horseback  :rolleyes:

Even then you try to fight the last remaining 10+ enemies alone on your horse.

Admit that you are a fucking valour farmer and accept the kick/ban instead of going "mimimi" on the forum :rolleyes:

Sadly it seems nothing else can be done against people like you who are constantly trying to fool the game mechanics :/