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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: PieParadox on October 28, 2011, 07:01:30 am
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I'm curious as to what the community thinks is the best melee class based on their overall usage (against other melee, cav, range, etc.)
Personally, I think that polearms are the best melee class right now, due to their versatility. What do you think?
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polearms are the best melee class right now, due to their versatility
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polestun
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polearms are the best melee class right now, due to their versatility.
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you forgot 1-h no shield.
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I would have said "Polearms" before the update that changed throwing vs armor and allowed all bows to do piece damage.
Now I think it's a lot closer, but I'm going to go with "1H+shield".
Because it doesn't matter how awesome your polearm and polestun and lolstab and pikewiggle abilities are when someone shoots you in the eye with an arrow from across the map, or just backpedals and happily throws axes into your chest until you die.
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Do you mean best in sense of who gets more kills and is easiest to play etc?
Or do you mean what people like most and consider due to that as "best" ?
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Best in terms of getting kills: 2H
Best in terms of versatibility: Polearms
Best in terms of teamplay: Shielder
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Best in terms of getting kills: 2H
Best in terms of versatibility: Polearms
Best in terms of teamplay: Shielder
Quite true, but I would add the Long Spear too for "Best in terms of getting kills".
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1h
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My best? 1h/shield no question.
"best" best? Polearms probably b/c of their versatility blah blah.
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when mastered? 1h without shield no doubt, lighting fast, reasonable damage with high ps and reasonable reach with most of the higher tier swords.
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polestun, stopping incoming cav completely, being able to go support, being able to quickly be a deadly cav by just changing the build a little bit and ofc op weapons like glaive.
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All classes are good, and all have own positives. You can get tons of kills with everything all you need is some insane skill:
in terms k/d ratio:
polearms:
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to be fair, my 2h was from lvl 1 where as my polearmer was a respecc so 2h could be just as high. Id have to say polearms though because of the longspear, amazing support and offesnive weapon and you can also carry a close quarters weapon on your back.
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All classes are good, and all have own positives. You can get tons of kills with everything all you need is some insane skill:
in terms k/d ratio:
polearms:
2h:
1h/shield: Fallen_Cyber
Not to shit all over your example but your forgetting he only just recently gone polearm so your point is invalid sry champ...
Also i would say all classes are fine in melee each to each own..
1h to play it safe
2h to be duelist
Polearm all rounder
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2h cuz it's fucking classy
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when mastered? 1h without shield no doubt, lighting fast, reasonable damage with high ps and reasonable reach with most of the higher tier swords.
2h, when mastered and with the right equipment. More reach, more damage, more speed than 1h without shield. 2h is and will always be the easiest and strongest class in melee combat.
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1h>polearm>2h>1h....
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polearms are the best melee class right now, due to their versatility
Polestun, Pikes, Lances, Mauls, Top Tier have Bonus Against Shield with High damage values, Fast Non-retarded Lolstabs, etc.
1h (no shield) is the best duelist weapon of choice.
2h has the most fluid animations with good damage/range (surpassing sometimes the poles since the swings are with the "superman" arm stretch).
But I suppose you're speaking of hypothetical individual value OP, since to win battles you only need a strong shield-wall, lightning reflexes on pikers, shitloads of ranged, and Cavalry waves for flanking.
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All of them. Variety and versatility!
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1h (no shield) is the best duelist weapon of choice.
no, it really isn't
one of the reasons being that someone with good footwork will get in 3 hits to your 1
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Cav is the best.
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Best in terms of getting kills: 2H
Best in terms of versatibility: Polearms
Best in terms of teamplay: Shielder
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I prefer the feeling of 2h over poles for duelling, even though I have 160 pole wpf and 0 2h wpf.
The feints are simply better and polestun means nothing against a good opponent. The animations are more deceiving, the range is better yet the range stat isn't that high, making your char slightly faster than equivalent range polearms. It's also way easier to hit the head with 2h.
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I find 1h+shield+light/medium armour the most versatile build I've ever done. After that would probably be hoplite-ing with the intent to sheath my shield in duels.
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polestun means nothing against a good opponent.
what?
You need at least 3 strikes landed against very good player in medium armor, is often easier land first with pole and then other two in chainstun.
The feints are not that better, also for most duelist are 2h feints easier to read(except atze :D) than good pole feints. Some polearms are quite heavy and weaponstun is big factor two.
I also prefer dueling with 2h over pole, because is more fluid and fun. With polestun i probably bet my money on pro pole use over pro 2h (if they wear 40-50 body armor).
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I prefer the feeling of 2h over poles for duelling, even though I have 160 pole wpf and 0 2h wpf.
The feints are simply better and polestun means nothing against a good opponent. The animations are more deceiving, the range is better yet the range stat isn't that high, making your char slightly faster than equivalent range polearms. It's also way easier to hit the head with 2h.
just lol....
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best.. it depends on your playstyle.
Below is assuming u are using top weapons for the class.
* For short lived clusterfucks:
Polearms for range and damage output, shieldbreaking etc. 2h also good, but not as good.
* For long lived clusterfucks:
1h shield - more of a patience game. Someone that slowly hacks away at the possibilities that are presented.
* For "choosing your battles" flanking, avoiding clusterfucks and ranged:
Here 2h and polearms are more or less the same, requires a different build and armor than clusterfuck fighting. Perhaps 2h has more confusing animations, which could be used to your advantage.
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best for teamplay :shielder.
best for kills : 2hander
best for versitiality : polearm
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You just never quit do you GTX :lol:
Anyways, I'd say it's fairly well balanced, but for straight-up battles I'd go with either pole or 1h. Pole because they have really good all-round weapons + a lot of different weapon classes (lance, pike) use pole WPF. 1h because they are so fast they go through people's blocks really easily, headhits are important in today's +3 armor-filled servers, and the ability to carry a shield ofc. Also, having a short weapon is awesome for just flailing away in group fights, especially when combined with autoblock (click-blocking with lighter shields is awesome).
I did recently make a 2h char though, and I have to start by saying that the animations fucking rock. Sideswings rarely glance and so are great for both duels and stuff like jump-slashing. Stab reach is a great boon (and YES you can, in fact it's not very hard to make point blank fast stabs, you just can't make ultra-fast long stabs anymore), and the overhead just "feels" better (better reach, but also feels more smooth).
Now the downside to 2h seems to mainly be the fact that the weapons are generally more specialized (not as "all-round" as the poles) and that you have less to choose from.
So for duelling/flanking I'd go with a 2h, but as said they don't seem to be as good in mass melee. Edit: Yeah there is the Great Maul, but I really do regard CT as a seperate weapon class, even though 2h clearly got the advantage in that dept.)
As a final note though I'd just like to point out that there are great players playing every melee class, and on the whole I see no massive imbalance.
Yes, polestun is bullshit but they're getting rid of that anyway.
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BTW 2h can use pikes and long spears as well, you don't need WPF to use long ass weapons
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2h just got the best animations
also polestun supplys easy kills..
but best of the best is 1h+pole+horse :D
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Nerf 2h.