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cRPG => Announcements => Topic started by: chadz on October 16, 2011, 07:32:32 pm

Title: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: chadz on October 16, 2011, 07:32:32 pm
So we have a fancy new tool that tells us that a lot of people are using more accounts per IP. Therefore, we have banned a fine selection of those people until they tell us what's up with that. We will bring up a thread in the global ban section soon where you can explain why you have so many keys (and how many you have) and why you need more than one. We will then decide how to go on.

For those who are not yet affected - this was a warning shot, and you have the benefit of thelazyness doubt for now. Next wave, you might not be so lucky.

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Corwin on October 16, 2011, 07:36:08 pm
I know I am not one of those on list, but I would like to repeat once again that there is a possibility to see more than one (meaning 2) keys on my IP. Reason - my kid is also playing cRPG. Although he wont be online anytime soon, he is punished atm.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Sojetsu on October 16, 2011, 07:36:29 pm
so, it means if ur play from work\with bro\friend on 2nd pc\PC club - u'll be banned? nice
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Christo on October 16, 2011, 07:38:27 pm
Yeah erm.. what if both versions are bound to steam, and I switch accounts when I'm going to my friend to play? I'll end up being banned? :o
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Allers on October 16, 2011, 07:39:57 pm
and playing with siblings who also play the game on a dif cd key and do strat also
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: chadz on October 16, 2011, 07:42:20 pm
thead is here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,18515.0.html
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 16, 2011, 08:18:54 pm
Fking shit, my wife got banned nick Kittiya,
I wrote u several times chadz on Irc , telling you that my SON, Myself and my Wife plays on same IP, 3 different computers and we sometimes play alone or all together.

I see the post now, BUT WHY BANN FIRST then ask qyuestions after...


U have no idea how my NAGGING i get now by my upset WIFE, im watching a fav TV show and shes banned. lucky i recorded the program

But this u did on purpose even tho u know many ppl playing several keys LEGIT !!!!!
Im all for getting the unlegit ppl but not by banning all
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 16, 2011, 08:33:12 pm
If I got banned then I get to kill Espu...or myself
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Thovex on October 16, 2011, 08:34:03 pm
I playED with my brother... My nick - STR_Gameover_xbowman, his nick - Paul_von_Steeven.

What we should do now? spend money for this game again?

As chadz said, unban request at the thread link chadz posted.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 16, 2011, 08:39:33 pm
So what if we get a new computer...?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 16, 2011, 08:43:26 pm
So what if we get a new computer...?
Its the IP.  chadz are taking the legit and the dumb cheaters. everyone can set up a proxy if they want to cheat.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Chort on October 16, 2011, 08:48:09 pm
everyone can set up a proxy if they want to cheat.
Yeah... do you remember 1% from Africa ?

P.S. It looks so lame...
P.P.S. why not do something really useful. for example, forbid to go for opposed side for members of attacking faction
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: BlackCorsair_RS on October 16, 2011, 08:49:31 pm
Its the IP.  chadz are taking the legit and the dumb ones. everyone can set up a proxy if they want to cheat.

true - these bans will not give any positive result, only dissapointment for legit players.


The problem of multi chars on strategus should be  decided by ingame methods, not by IPs, keys and accounts.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Mtemtko on October 16, 2011, 08:50:20 pm
So what if we get a new computer...?

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Fucking photobucket
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 16, 2011, 09:01:14 pm
And thats WHY gold in strategus should be farmed in Crpg, to make many keys not usefull
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Allers on October 16, 2011, 09:57:26 pm
ETA for unban? Im sitting on my computer staring at screen
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Templar_Steevee on October 16, 2011, 10:40:38 pm
routcher changes ip????

because rebelyell and me have 1 and the same routher
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 16, 2011, 10:41:53 pm
routcher changes ip????

because rebelyell and me have 1 and the same routher
1 router is 1 IP
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Templar_Steevee on October 16, 2011, 10:44:47 pm
so i am like 1 the same man for them????
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Sharky on October 16, 2011, 10:57:59 pm
Its the IP.  chadz are taking the legit and the dumb cheaters. everyone can set up a proxy if they want to cheat.

Exactly. Do you have other ways to discover account sharing other then ip chadz? Because ip alone is not enough, everyone can easily change it
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Elio on October 16, 2011, 11:06:21 pm
1 router is 1 IP
or not, my ISP (orange in France) give dynamic IP (like DHCP for LAN), If I reset my router my ISP give me a new IP.

The only reliable way is to monitor transactions, If someone frequently receives money crpg or strat/troop without giving anything it's suspect. Except for Thomek (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11790.msg261774.html#msg261774) :D
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Elio on October 16, 2011, 11:14:25 pm
For posterity :

Just for the record- last round more than 100 greys logged in from one IP. Over one hundred warband keys from a single household. Your fucked up sense of fairness is what forces us to take steps like this in the first place. So would you kindly get rid of this attitude?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Mannhammer on October 16, 2011, 11:28:00 pm
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Thank you dev team for finally doing something about this exploit. It's good to see your no longer putting up with this crap.

To the innocent that were caught up in this, don't blame the Dev team. Blame the exploiters that forced them to do it.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: BlackCorsair_RS on October 16, 2011, 11:33:17 pm
Thank you dev team for finally doing something about this exploit. It's good to see your no longer putting up with this crap.

To the innocent that were caught up in this, don't blame the Dev team. Blame the exploiters that forced them to do it.

oh lol. "doing something"?

its like to explode the grenade to kill a single mosquito. So ok, lets ban 50% crpg players to  catch 1% of not perfectly fair players.

same efficiency and practicability
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Loki on October 16, 2011, 11:49:47 pm
This is awesome, thanks for enforcing this shit finally!  Super awesome!  It's like Christmas morning!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on October 16, 2011, 11:49:59 pm
LEAVE NONE ALIVE
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Achelous on October 16, 2011, 11:52:16 pm
Why is this even an issue, your punishing people that paid for 60$ or more to play with family members and to just to have a good time most of these people probably dont play native and bought this game just for CRPG. I dont see the suspicious part I dont see any people complaining about getting there accounts jacked. if anything you should fix the fucking market place so people can stop losing there hard earned looms to scammers.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 17, 2011, 12:14:50 am
I mean...



...





...






...





I can't fix my ignorance. HALP
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 17, 2011, 12:18:06 am
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Thank you dev team for finally doing something about this exploit. It's good to see your no longer putting up with this crap.

To the innocent that were caught up in this, don't blame the chocolate chip cookie's, blame the Jews for being there.

Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 17, 2011, 12:39:11 am
Gay Order...100 Keys on 1 IP? WHAT.....THE...HELL!?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: MaHuD on October 17, 2011, 12:39:18 am
Pretty sure they would not ban you automaticly if they see that both keys play at the same time...
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Christo on October 17, 2011, 12:47:51 am
Gay Order...100 Keys on 1 IP? WHAT.....THE...HELL!?

This is Madness!!!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 17, 2011, 12:49:16 am
Gay Order...100 Keys on 1 IP? WHAT.....THE...HELL!?

Their reputation for exploiting has really gotten out of hand, poor guys.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Falka on October 17, 2011, 12:49:30 am
Quote from: chadz
Just for the record- last round more than 100 greys logged in from one IP. Over one hundred warband keys from a single household. Your fucked up sense of fairness is what forces us to take steps like this in the first place. So would you kindly get rid of this attitude?
:lol:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Dezilagel on October 17, 2011, 01:02:41 am
Well, there are really only about 20 people playing c-rpg...
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 17, 2011, 01:03:03 am
This is Madness!!!

Madness? THIS IS........
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: POOPHAMMER on October 17, 2011, 01:23:52 am
Gay Order...100 Keys on 1 IP? WHAT.....THE...HELL!?

I read that one. That person has less of a life than a dead person
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: indigocylinder on October 17, 2011, 01:52:41 am
You really need to have separate systems for banning from strat and banning from crpg.

Alot of innocent people will have been banned today, and for the many of those who only play crpg (and not strat), being banned from crpg for this will appear entirely irrational.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Christo on October 17, 2011, 02:03:56 am
Madness? THIS IS........

SPAMTAA!

 :lol:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Phalanx300 on October 17, 2011, 02:45:52 am
This makes no sense. Then again I couldn't expect otherwise...
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Turkhammer on October 17, 2011, 04:51:59 am
Their reputation for exploiting has really gotten out of hand, poor guys.
Poor guys?  Peckerwoods is more like it.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 17, 2011, 05:13:13 am
Now where is Kesh's "See the EU's ALL Multi Account!".

I think Kesh called that one real good.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 17, 2011, 05:37:14 am
Now where is Kesh's "See the EU's ALL Multi Account!".

I think Kesh called that one real good.

Every active cRPG player in EU nowadays multi accs.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Segd on October 17, 2011, 06:12:34 am
https://www.torproject.org/
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Dezilagel on October 17, 2011, 06:17:04 am
https://www.torproject.org/

Eh yeah, newsflash?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Slamz on October 17, 2011, 09:04:48 am
https://www.torproject.org/
lols

a) That's for browsers, not games.
b) Even if it was for games, enjoy your 1920ms ping.  If you're lucky.  Seriously, if you've used Tor for 5 minutes you realize it's barely tolerable for basic browsing.  Games would be completely out of the question.



ANYway, things to watch out for with IP-based checks and bans:

* IP's which resolve to a .edu address, where lots of people will tend to have the same IP.
* IP's which resolve to something that looks like a business.  I'm pretty sure I got an entire 20,000 person corporation banned from a particular, popular website.  (They did not like my political views so they banned my IP, which I'm pretty sure the entire corporation used, or at least everyone on the east cost of the United States).


I imagine, though, that the IP match is only step 1.

Step 2 would be to put those accounts on some sort of watchlist.  If they are both logged in and active, fine.  If they tend to show up to empty servers at 4am on Tuesdays on opposite teams and reap 5x rewards with little or no action from one of the accounts then you can probably safely ban them both.

I don't really know what information is available to chadz though.  I'm just saying that IP, by itself, has flaws when it comes to knowing how many warm bodies are involved.  It's not a bad start, though, and multiple accounts could be a real problem if left unchecked.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Uumdi on October 17, 2011, 09:21:12 am
Hey, not sure if this post is necessary or not.  I haven't been banned, but my brother, Frobot, plays cRPG about 5 feet away from me, haha.  He recently quit, but still logs on every other week or so.  Is and will always be inactive in strat.  Don't ban me, thanks guys.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 17, 2011, 11:04:21 am
Gay Order...100 Keys on 1 IP? WHAT.....THE...HELL!?

First the spammitars, then the autoblocks, then the siege, then this, what's next ?

The Grey Order seems to have a very strict moral policy.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 17, 2011, 11:08:01 am
https://www.torproject.org/

 8-)
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Ujin on October 17, 2011, 11:17:05 am
First the spammitars, then the autoblocks, then the siege, then this, what's next ?

The Grey Order seems to have a very strict moral policy.
You forgot that incident when about 5 members of GO got caught stealing looms from the accounts they hac guessed the passwords for.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Vovka on October 17, 2011, 11:29:01 am
First the spammitars, then the autoblocks, then the siege, then this, what's next ?
The Grey Order seems to have a very strict moral policy.
they will kidnap you and torture you, forcing  you eat hundreds of croissants every minute  :?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Xant on October 17, 2011, 11:44:01 am
You forgot that incident when about 5 members of GO got caught stealing looms from the accounts they hac guessed the passwords for.

And then they just copied eachother's unban essays  :D
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: v/onMega on October 17, 2011, 12:16:11 pm
And then they just copied eachother's unban essays  :D

Grey Poorder....i ve been saying this for half a year...

Exploit every overpowered weapon...
Exploit every possible bug...

They got an amount of decent guys, sure, but the majority is simply over the top.

Also heard Abay had like ~ 20 keys going...all banned.

I dont even want to know what the rest is doing...

Pathetic, not funny but surely worth a laugh.

No reason to play strategus under these circumstances.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Segd on October 17, 2011, 12:17:34 pm
lols

a) That's for browsers, not games.
b) Even if it was for games, enjoy your 1920ms ping.  If you're lucky.  Seriously, if you've used Tor for 5 minutes you realize it's barely tolerable for basic browsing.  Games would be completely out of the question.
http://russianproxy.ru/ - dinamic IP, lowers your ping(for russia) & costs 2,5$\month. There are many of such vpn services in europe.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 17, 2011, 12:45:32 pm
Solution: Blanket Ban everyone from east of Germany in between West of US.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gnjus on October 17, 2011, 12:46:21 pm
Polish gaming community already has a notorious reputation but it's not enough for them, they need more.  :wink:

(click to show/hide)

Btw I'll use this opportunity and ask a question: Am I the only idiot around here (out of all clan leaders/officers/whatever) who refuses (always did and always will) to know his Clan Members User Names/Passwords and manage their Strategos affairs instead of 'em ? Just out of curiosity, that is. If yes, then there's really

No reason to play strategus under these circumstances.


....now or ever again.
I truly hope that something can be done about it, if we can't play a fair & square game then what's the point of it ?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kingtrisp on October 17, 2011, 01:07:50 pm
I have one router and i can change my ip address at will.

Some people have static ip address some people have dynamic i do not understand some peoples logic.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Erasmas on October 17, 2011, 02:02:21 pm
Okay, let me put it in this way:

GO is a big faction. Many guys involved. Anyone who run such big operation is aware that it very hard to control. Do we have cheaters? We do. Do we have retards? We do. Do we have trolls? We do. Do we have fucked up freaks? We do. Do we try to deal with them internally? Hell, yes we do. Is that easy? No, it is not. Does it work? Sometimes...  Is your clan any better than this? If yes – good for you, I do have my doubts about it though.

Multiaccounting, multiboxing, common theft and stupidity in general is... well, stupid. Not fair. However, there is a difference between intentional infringement of rules and infringement of their "spirit" - the latter is called "an exploit" and is dubious.  Multiaccounting is a hot topic now, so a word about it: it was a perfect tool to control the situation and was used by many, not only GO members. Does anyone wish to play on dozens of accounts? Hell no, we all (ok, most of us) have RL. This issue should be resolved by technical inability to use many accounts or organized way of doing so; otherwise you will never know if you are the only one that is not exploiting the system. Eventually the warning was issued and duly received; we ceased to do it some time ago. Better for us, in fact, it brings more organization within organization, and that works well. Mind you, however, that the issue itself still exists.

chadz got pissed off and spilled the news on who is to blame - fine, it is his prerogative to warn people off doing stuff that is or may be detrimental to the game as a whole, and we do take it as such. He did it on the totally innocent occasion? Shame, but fine again, for the same reason. He did that on whole GO’s expense, which is quite unjust for vast majority of GO guys?  Painful, but again - it is fine for the same reason.

Does everyone in your clan play totally fair? Is it only GO guys that play unfair sometimes? No? So, please fuck off an mind your own business. And report the abuse, cheats and exploits. Spitting on us will not make you more saint than you are already. Are you saint?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: naduril on October 17, 2011, 02:06:51 pm
...
Does everyone in your clan play totally fair? Is it only GO guys that play unfair sometimes? No? So, please fuck off an mind your own business. And report the abuse, cheats and exploits. Spitting on us will not make you more saint than you are already. Are you saint?

OMG! +1.

Nevertheless, whiners still exist and still whine MOAR!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Rebelyell on October 17, 2011, 02:18:05 pm
what??
Dude you tooks like that: "I killed your dog but i think the someone of your family killed some dog to so it fer"

Because of that silly move you dominated strat last time.
From the very beginning that was common knowledge then its forbidden.
Its a fucking part of the game, fucking part of he fucking strat to take all your members active there.
I am from Poland and i fell shame because of fucking trolls like Grey Order...
that long massive ban story on you clan... and you still trying to save some honor of GO??? Dude that clan lost  Honor long time ago.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Erasmas on October 17, 2011, 02:26:45 pm
what??
Dude you tooks like that: "I killed your dog but i think the someone of your family killed some dog to so it fer"

No. It is not fair, and that is exactly what I am saying. Just make sure you understand what you read.

Because of that silly move you dominated strat last time.
From the very beginning that was common knowledge then its forbidden.
Its a fucking part of the game, fucking part of he fucking strat to take all your members active there.
I am from Poland and i fell shame because of fucking trolls like Grey Order...
that long massive ban story on you clan... and you still trying to save some honor of GO??? Dude that clan lost  Honor long time ago.

But the poit is that we are successful because we have good players. And the only thing I am trying to say is  that finding the goat for sacrifice does not resolve the issue, and I resent this way of thinking.

Are you ashame of GO? Good. Be so. I do not know you and I do not know who you are, but you are welcome to our TS, to find out how the reality looks like.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Leshma on October 17, 2011, 02:42:45 pm
Druzhina supporting Grey Order. How appropriate :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Thovex on October 17, 2011, 02:48:23 pm
Druzhina supporting Grey Order. How appropriate :rolleyes:

Naduril now is entire Druzhina, he just said +1 because most of the forum crap is just bs.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Bulzur on October 17, 2011, 02:52:41 pm
So... if i understood Erasmas post, we shouldn't blame GO as a whole, since some of them are totally innocent. And while we're at it, we'll even say that 75% were innocent, while 25% were guilty.
Taking into account that the guilties were one hundred, it will be reasonable to say that GO has around 400 members. Wait, whuut ?
Ok, maybe 50% of them were guilty, this narrows their number to 200. Still seems a bit much. But it's obviously between this 50% (200 members, and the 100% : 100 members). We can also probably add some multi-accounts, so let's say 3 per "real" GO member, and we've managed to narrow the GO to 33 active cheaters, and Erasmas (who is obviously innocent, as white as a crow...don't remember the word in english. Not bad hey.


On another note... It's easy saying "we're surely not the only ones who did that", but you're probably the only one who did it at such a large scale. And i'm pretty sure there's some 100% decent and fair clans out there. It's not fair to point a finger to others when you're accused, saying "they did the same thing, in a smaller sense, but the same".

A little comparaison : some GO robs a supermarket, to get drinks, food, and whatever. They're arrested, and ask why they have 5years in jail, when there's little kids stealing a packet of sweets too. They should get 5 years too. It's the same thing !  :lol:



Naduril now is entire Druzhina, he just said +1 because most of the forum crap is just bs.

+1.
Guards are now supporting Risen, it's official.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Wookimonsta on October 17, 2011, 03:02:36 pm
Lulzy thread is lulzy.
Keep on bannin'
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Fraemi on October 17, 2011, 03:37:47 pm
ENGAGE THE +/- TRAIN, SUPPORT YOUR FACTION
+ YOUR SHIT
- DISAGREEING SHIT

Sorry for the offtopic, but the post that started this was pretty ridiculous.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Aljo on October 17, 2011, 03:55:12 pm
What hapens if my whole muslim family of 29 plays from same IP?
My grandparents love this game; if you ban em they might have a heart attack...
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 17, 2011, 04:17:28 pm
Okay, let me put it in this way:

GO is a big faction. Many guys involved. Anyone who run such big operation is aware that it very hard to control. Do we have cheaters? We do. Do we have retards? We do. Do we have trolls? We do. Do we have fucked up freaks? We do. Do we try to deal with them internally? Hell, yes we do. Is that easy? No, it is not. Does it work? Sometimes...  Is your clan any better than this? If yes – good for you, I do have my doubts about it though.

Multiaccounting, multiboxing, common theft and stupidity in general is... well, stupid. Not fair. However, there is a difference between intentional infringement of rules and infringement of their "spirit" - the latter is called "an exploit" and is dubious.  Multiaccounting is a hot topic now, so a word about it: it was a perfect tool to control the situation and was used by many, not only GO members. Does anyone wish to play on dozens of accounts? Hell no, we all (ok, most of us) have RL. This issue should be resolved by technical inability to use many accounts or organized way of doing so; otherwise you will never know if you are the only one that is not exploiting the system. Eventually the warning was issued and duly received; we ceased to do it some time ago. Better for us, in fact, it brings more organization within organization, and that works well. Mind you, however, that the issue itself still exists.

chadz got pissed off and spilled the news on who is to blame - fine, it is his prerogative to warn people off doing stuff that is or may be detrimental to the game as a whole, and we do take it as such. He did it on the totally innocent occasion? Shame, but fine again, for the same reason. He did that on whole GO’s expense, which is quite unjust for vast majority of GO guys?  Painful, but again - it is fine for the same reason.

Does everyone in your clan play totally fair? Is it only GO guys that play unfair sometimes? No? So, please fuck off an mind your own business. And report the abuse, cheats and exploits. Spitting on us will not make you more saint than you are already. Are you saint?

1. Manage your clan more efficiently.
2. Ban/warn and apologize for the actions of your exploiter(s).
3. ???
4. Profit

Come on, theres really no excuse guys!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gnjus on October 17, 2011, 04:26:18 pm
Does everyone in your clan play totally fair?   

Yes. Even that semi-retarded Greek cunt plays fair, he's not a very bright & pleasant chap to have around but at least he doesn't cheat.  :wink:


Is it only GO guys that play unfair sometimes?

No....and none claimed that.


Are you saint?

Well, lets see....i never smoked cigarettes, i never did any drugs in my life.....recently i quit drinking and tons of unhealthy food....it's been ages since the last time i had sex.....i don't have a criminal record as i never even stole anything let alone did some more terrible things (unless ofc stealing candies in a store when i was a kid but that doesn't count).....i generally don't tell lies (except by mistake) and i never, ever cheated in any of the computer games i played (and i played quite a lot back in my day..well, maybe i did cheat a bit with Football Managers and their editors but pretty much everyone does it so i recon its ok)......so yeah, if i could get rid of my heavy cursing & swearing (which is a bad thing to do and i sure do it too often & too hard) then i might even be considered a saint. Any more questions ?  :wink:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Harpag on October 17, 2011, 04:29:54 pm
Just to make it clear - If any of you thinks that someone in GO run 100 game keys, then stand corrected - it is simply not true. Logging on another guys accounts - well - over many months the number could grew large, actually I was surprised by the fact that is was so much; this is just because we have a great number of members. So do not expand your own imagination excessively, because the sick excitement can harm you. You can talk as much foolish things as you can - if this is what you need to show how strong you are. For a quite some time we do not use multiaccounting and somehow it did not hurt us.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 17, 2011, 05:01:36 pm
Okay, let me put it in this way:

GO is a big faction. Many guys involved. Anyone who run such big operation is aware that it very hard to control. Do we have cheaters? We do. Do we have retards? We do. Do we have trolls? We do. Do we have fucked up freaks? We do. Do we try to deal with them internally? Hell, yes we do. Is that easy? No, it is not. Does it work? Sometimes...  Is your clan any better than this? If yes – good for you, I do have my doubts about it.

The Fallen Brigade is an extremely large clan. I know all about running large operations... Yet we apparently do a hell of a better job then your clan. The Fallen get shit talk in game or on the forumsabout our scumbag tactics, the Grey Order get shit talk in game and on the forums about a crapload of cheating and scumbag members... See the difference?

Knowing your members personally and being picky on the type of person you let in goes a long way for us to make sure that our roster if full of "nice guys" and not cheating jackasses. I fail to see how this is apparently so difficult for the GO to manage the clan. It is one thing to have a bad apple in the clan, and large clans may have several that "slipped through the cracks" but the GO apparently has whole bushels of bad apples which makes me question the quality of the character of your leadership in that clan, as well as the type of people you welcome in.

The Grey Order makes the news on cRPG literally every month sometimes multiple times a month for exploitation, cheating and deliberately toeing the line. You earned every bit of the reputation you have now.

So in the famous words of one of your members...
Deal with it.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Erasmas on October 17, 2011, 05:08:23 pm
Yeah, we know - you are the awesome guys and we are the bad guys. Sorry.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 17, 2011, 05:10:03 pm
Yeah, we know - you are the awesome guys and we are the bad guys. Sorry.

Damn straight, now give me your looms and I shall pardon your sins.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Erasmas on October 17, 2011, 05:14:54 pm
Damn straight, now give me your looms and I shall pardon your sins.

I will disappoint you - I have no looms, traded them all. And, to tell you the truth, YOUR forgiveness of any sins anyone could commit does not count for shit.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 17, 2011, 05:22:12 pm
I will disappoint you - I have no looms, traded them all. And, to tell you the truth, YOUR forgiveness of any sins anyone could commit does not count for shit.

Um, pretty sure that this
you are the awesome guys and we are the bad guys.
means I'm a pretty fucking amazing person, and my words are worth more then some countries. When a crippled child is born in my village, my words mean so much that not only does the child become healthy, but even blind men in the next village over can see again.

Clearly you are such a sinner that you can not see my brilliance and humble importance in life, but I shall have my people pray for you and your wretched sins nontheless.

Go now, my lost child, and find your redemption before it is too late, for not even I can remove the sins of one who slips into the abyss.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: dynamike on October 17, 2011, 05:33:48 pm
CHAOS hacks, cheats and crutches.

Collectively.

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Keshian on October 17, 2011, 05:38:33 pm
CHAOS hacks, cheats and crutches.

Collectively.

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Farmer_Nate was the whistleblower on you guys.  Could have gone on forever without being caught.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Mannhammer on October 17, 2011, 05:41:15 pm
Did anyone who is enraged about the Devs finally enforcing the rules ever read this?
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,14919.0.html
You were given a month to clean up your act but didn't, and now your reaping the whirlwind.

Cry Moar  :rolleyes:

Also, thanks Segd for giving cheating tutorials in the rules enforcement tread. That takes some balls.
I guess the DRZ cheaters are just more adept at their craft then their GO comrades.
Lets see if the devs do anything about it.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: dynamike on October 17, 2011, 05:42:34 pm
Farmer_Nate was the whistleblower on you guys.  Could have gone on forever without being caught.

We all thank him for showing us our wrong doings and leading us back on the path to righteousness! Without him we would all still be the scumbags we were back then.

Need more proof? Here you go:
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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Ujin on October 17, 2011, 05:48:42 pm
Grey Order - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIeqRSPgMHw&feature=related .
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Overdriven on October 17, 2011, 05:57:35 pm
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Lol fighting a losing corner much.

There is simply no way you can put having 100 accounts on 1 ip down to a mistake because of being such a large faction. Having 100 keys from one pc is planned, probably from the leadership and there's no way you can deny that. GO has had a reputation for a long time. It was one of the first things I learned about when I first started crpg almost a year ago. Certainly heard lots about it when I joined the forums in Jan.

Would certainly help explain how GO always had such incredible equipment in their sieges.

I'll say now, GK used to multi account share at one point (with maybe 3 accounts mainly for scouting). But we stopped as soon as the forum post from Meow about it came out, warning people to stop. I assume many others also did.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Erasmas on October 17, 2011, 06:02:39 pm
Having 100 keys from one pc is planned, probably from the leadership and there's no way you can deny that.

Read previous posts. But thank you for your support in the crusade.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Thovex on October 17, 2011, 06:05:07 pm
The Fallen Brigade is an extremely large clan. I know all about running large operations... Yet we apparently do a hell of a better job then your clan. The Fallen get shit talk in game or on the forumsabout our scumbag tactics, the Grey Order get shit talk in game and on the forums about a crapload of cheating and scumbag members... See the difference?

Knowing your members personally and being picky on the type of person you let in goes a long way for us to make sure that our roster if full of "nice guys" and not cheating jackasses. I fail to see how this is apparently so difficult for the GO to manage the clan. It is one thing to have a bad apple in the clan, and large clans may have several that "slipped through the cracks" but the GO apparently has whole bushels of bad apples which makes me question the quality of the character of your leadership in that clan, as well as the type of people you welcome in.

The Grey Order makes the news on cRPG literally every month sometimes multiple times a month for exploitation, cheating and deliberately toeing the line. You earned every bit of the reputation you have now.

So in the famous words of one of your members...
Deal with it.

I think to be honest since your a NA player/admin that you hardly know any shit about Grey Order than you think besides rumors from other clans and your own clan.

When I was a templar I always thought Druzhina was the bad guys because everyone else thought so as well, but sadly I knew no better, once I did leave Fallens and said Hi to DRZ I met these guys as extremely reliable and cool/nice guys, while in past I always hated them for no reason, which is probably the exact same thing you have now ToD.

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 17, 2011, 06:08:30 pm
I play on EU often, and I don't hate Grey order. I am just saying that The Fallen get caught far less then Greys do, and that is pretty much fact when you read how often they get brought up on the forums.

As for the Admins, I want names or you are full of shit.

The only clan I disliked as a whole was ATS due to how they usually treated me. Nowadays though I don't really care.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Thovex on October 17, 2011, 06:09:35 pm
I play on EU often, and I don't hate Grey order. I am just saying that The Fallen get caught far less then Greys do, and that is pretty much fact when you read how often they get brought up on the forums.

As for the Admins, I want names or you are full of shit.

Poophammer USA lol, was couple more but I forgot names.

Also you saying Fallen is doing it but just didn't get caught yet?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: v/onMega on October 17, 2011, 06:10:43 pm
@ Grey Order:

Obviously knowing that ppl. in your faction cheat (Harpag admits it), is as good as cheating by yourself.....

Who profits?

Grey Order, so basiclly errbody now trying to explain things.

It might be (which I totally doubt) the minority is exploiting and cheating...okay...but now tell me....

Who had the profit? You didnt see the troops and gold....or the perfectly well timed movements etc. etc.?

The majority had the profit...in this special case GreyOrder (picking you now, but be sure I know there is other clans doing it)

I can freaggin recall Grey Order bragging about their strength etc. This makes it even more ridiciolus....


The path of the righteous man is something you life....

Not something you explain after you ve been fucking caught....

Fucking opportunists now act like saints and tell others that we re supposed to look into our stuff first...

NO REASON TO PLAY STRAT UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES.




@Gnjus:

Love that comment about 95% catholics etc.
Its true...and I know best since I partly have polish / east prusian ancestors.


And yes, there is clean clans, namly HRE for example.

You know why?

Because their leader fucking wants it to be clean.


Punishments cant be hard enuff....

Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 17, 2011, 06:12:53 pm
Poophammer USA lol.

Also you saying Fallen is doing it but just didn't get caught yet?  :rolleyes:

So... Next time take screen shots/video and get the badmin removed if there is one.

As for Fallen abusing, no one really knows but us and the Devs if we are cheating or not, but obviously I am going to claim that we don't... But again... How many times do GO members pop up on the forums in trouble? Theyhave a reputation for having more troublemakers then most because they show up more often on the forums.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Keshian on October 17, 2011, 06:15:38 pm
We all thank him for showing us our wrong doings and leading us back on the path to righteousness! Without him we would all still be the scumbags we were back then.

Need more proof? Here you go:
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True, Farmer_Nate is the Saint of the NA community (except for the ban for autoblocking, and temp bans for racism, tking, etc.).  Without him telling us how we should play we too would be as cheat-ridden as the EU community.  Thank you farmer_Nate.  :D
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 17, 2011, 06:17:05 pm
Farmer nate was banned for autoblocking?! Ahahahahahaha omgcantbreatheimdying
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Mannhammer on October 17, 2011, 06:23:38 pm
When I was a templar I always thought Druzhina was the bad guys because everyone else thought so as well, but sadly I knew no better, once I did leave Fallens and said Hi to DRZ I met these guys as extremely reliable and cool/nice guys, while in past I always hated them for no reason, which is probably the exact same thing you have now ToD.

I'm sure the DRZ guys are great in person. But when a DRZ member is giving tips on how to bypass the rules in this very thread it certainly does reinforce their negative reputation.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Aljo on October 17, 2011, 06:39:56 pm
just ban all this IP address violators
and when I say ban, I mean permaban
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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Segd on October 17, 2011, 06:42:18 pm
I'm sure the DRZ guys are great in person. But when a DRZ member is giving tips on how to bypass the rules in this very thread it certainly does reinforce their negative reputation.
education is the key to success  8-)
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 17, 2011, 06:51:28 pm
You have my respects Segd.

Pins a badge onto the breast of his tunic
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Mannhammer on October 17, 2011, 07:03:01 pm
education is the key to success  8-)

LOL

At least you own it
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O.k. now I'm sure the DRZ guys are cool IRL.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gnjus on October 17, 2011, 07:03:19 pm
@Gnjus:
Love that comment about 95% catholics etc.
Its true...and I know best since I partly have polish / east prusian ancestors.

Just to make it clear: that was 100% trolling & dark humor, it wasn't intended to get anyone offended or anything like that, i just....couldn't resist........  :wink:

I hope there isn't many people here with "zeka fakiri" and complete absence of any sense for humor whatsoever, especially the dark one.  :)

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Dehitay on October 17, 2011, 07:05:35 pm
Poophammer USA lol, was couple more but I forgot names.
To be honest, I'm not surprised. He's a fun guy and all, but he regularly does stuff I don't want to be seeing from an admin. I can't even remember how many time he's broken fully useful ladders or just kicked around players who are trying to focus on the enemy for no reason.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Keshian on October 17, 2011, 07:12:01 pm
To be honest, I'm not surprised. He's a fun guy and all, but he regularly does stuff I don't want to be seeing from an admin. I can't even remember how many time he's broken fully useful ladders or just kicked around players who are trying to focus on the enemy for no reason.

Poophammer is special in a special sort of way.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Thovex on October 17, 2011, 07:22:20 pm
education is the key to success  8-)

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 17, 2011, 08:10:36 pm
OMG! +1.

Nevertheless, whiners still exist and still whine MOAR!

I thought the Russians attacked the Polish and not defended em in WW2.

 :o
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: v/onMega on October 17, 2011, 09:34:03 pm
Just to make it clear: that was 100% trolling & dark humor, it wasn't intended to get anyone offended or anything like that, i just....couldn't resist........  :wink:

I hope there isn't many people here with "zeka fakiri" and complete absence of any sense for humor whatsoever, especially the dark one.  :)

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I was catholic before I left church ;-)
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Leesin on October 17, 2011, 09:57:18 pm
I lost count of how many times some random Grey Order member would begin insulting me over chat for no reason other than being a Fallen member  :lol:, never knew the guys that did it or spoke to them before, but the individuals chose to go out of their way to insult me for a reason I am unaware of and talk shit to me about the clan I am in. I pretty much ignored most of it and never randomly attacked their members over chat.

But it turns out alot of them are cheaters aswell as arseholes.  :lol: GG guys, no excuse for 100 accounts, alot of your members must have been in on this, I can't see one or two guys owning all of those accounts, looks like you got your just desserts, hope it tastes nice, karma bit you in the ass, enjoy.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kalp on October 17, 2011, 10:10:00 pm
Quote
I lost count of how many times some random Grey Order member would begin insulting me over chat for no reason other than being a Fallen member
Since I play cRPG I didn' see any member of GO insulting Fallen member on chat [at least I don't remember]. Bring up the proof.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Erasmas on October 17, 2011, 10:10:26 pm
I lost count of how many times some random Grey Order member would begin insulting me over chat for no reason other than being a Fallen member  :lol:, never knew the guys that did it or spoke to them before, but the individuals chose to go out of their way to insult me for a reason I am unaware of and talk shit to me about the clan I am in. I pretty much ignored most of it and never randomly attacked their members over chat.

My goodness... let me explain you how to deal with that: you make a screenshot, and send it to GO leaders. We'll deal with that.

EDIT: bit late, thanks Kalp.


But it turns out alot of them are cheaters aswell as arseholes.  :lol: GG guys, no excuse for 100 accounts, alot of your members must have been in on this, I can't see one or two guys owning all of those accounts, looks like you got your just desserts, hope it tastes nice, karma bit you in the ass, enjoy.

There is a perfect excuse for 100 accouts - there IS 100 real accounts, with real people behind.

I understand that this thread become a "kick GO" thread. Go ahead and have fun. I'm done here.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: dynamike on October 17, 2011, 10:21:32 pm
karma bit you in the ass, enjoy.

Karmy (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=profile;u=1235), godamnit stop biting people! We've been over this before!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: kukufarikki on October 17, 2011, 11:06:43 pm
Karmy (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=profile;u=1235), godamnit stop biting people! We've been over this before!

you are so funny !!!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Overdriven on October 18, 2011, 12:59:02 am
There is a perfect excuse for 100 accouts - there IS 100 real accounts, with real people behind.

From the same computer/house? You guys must get like 1min a day to play.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 18, 2011, 01:18:49 am
The problem with the Grey Order isn't really this or that particular event. It's the attitude.

Even though I always followed the news on this forum very assiduously, I can't remember any ban-related abuse/exploit or any extremely borderline behavior that the Grey Order didn't commited to on a large scale. The leaders/diplomats also constantly fail at communication on the subject. The clan really looks like it doesn't care at all about its image.

There are many 100% honest and suspicion-free clans out there, including the top clans. The constant attitude of the Grey Order to use obvious exploits, not reporting them and communicate about it like "I was doing nothing wrong, no rules say I can't do that"/"I wasn't doing it, or I offer a totally stupid reason" (recently, a GO member stated that GO members are going to spec to team back and forth because... they need to go smoke a cigaret)/"Stop whining you n00b stfu"(old classic). I don't know what's the internal problem, but there is one thing I can say for sure, they aren't known for fairness.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Jarlek on October 18, 2011, 01:26:03 am
The problem with the Grey Order isn't really this or that particular event. It's the attitude.

Even though I always followed the news on this forum very assiduously, I can't remember any ban-related abuse/exploit or any extremely borderline behavior that the Grey Order didn't commited to on a large scale. The leaders/diplomats also constantly fail at communication on the subject. The clan really looks like it doesn't care at all about its image.

There are many 100% honest and suspicion-free clans out there, including the top clans. The constant attitude of the Grey Order to use obvious exploits, not reporting them and communicate about it like "I was doing nothing wrong, no rules say I can't do that"/"I wasn't doing it, or I offer a totally stupid reason" (recently, a GO member stated that GO members are going to spec to team back and forth because... they need to go smoke a cigaret)/"Stop whining you n00b stfu"(old classic). I don't know what's the internal problem, but there is one thing I can say for sure, they aren't known for fairness.
Can't remember reading that. Care to post a link?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tot. on October 18, 2011, 06:55:03 am
Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of a sheep.  :wink:

Also, I'm not really sure why you keep spamming this thread. You submitted your inquiry, response was given.

Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Leesin on October 18, 2011, 07:59:03 am
Since I play cRPG I didn' see any member of GO insulting Fallen member on chat [at least I don't remember]. Bring up the proof.

Maybe you haven't, but it's happened a few times in the past, I don't care enough to be taking screenshots and crying about it, just stating why I found this funny.

My goodness... let me explain you how to deal with that: you make a screenshot, and send it to GO leaders. We'll deal with that.

EDIT: bit late, thanks Kalp.


There is a perfect excuse for 100 accouts - there IS 100 real accounts, with real people behind.

I understand that this thread become a "kick GO" thread. Go ahead and have fun. I'm done here.

I am not going to be taking screenies of someone insulting me over chat, I couldn't care less and as I already said to Kalp, I only stated it to explain why I smiled when I read you guys got caught with 100 real accounts being used from IP, which means your clan all probably payed for these accounts so one guy could go on and use them all on strat, which has been classed as cheating for a long time now. I won't be kicking you guys, you have kicked yourself enough.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Beauchamp on October 18, 2011, 10:03:43 am
Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of a sheep.  :wink:
so do retards. r u a lion? :wink:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 18, 2011, 10:17:02 am
Can't remember reading that. Care to post a link?

Just here :

So when I go to spectator for coffe and smoke or to eat something or go to toilet I break the rules ? hehe funny

Another cool one :

There is some things, that admins just aren't able to control. You can forbid us to use some items, you can forbid us to go somewhere, but you can't tell us when we can play and when we can't.


In that whole thread, GO posts are 90% hypocrisy.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: kinngrimm on October 18, 2011, 10:27:41 am
Pointing fingers doesn't help us as a community guys.
I see a lot of work here for devs and admins to clean up the mess of multi-accounting and i don't envy them for that work which needs to be done. I am glad that multi-accounting is now adressed and been dealt with more in this strategus setting.

@fellow faction leaders embrass the effort to get rid of multi-accounting and clean up your own ranks, if someone out of my faction would use that thing he wouldn't get any support of me. I know most of the clans leaders and diplomats and i couldn't tell that you my friends are in here with the purpose of cheating so please be respectfull against each other even if some factions have more bad apples. Over all we want to have fun in this game and make friends.

There are several unban requests which are reasonable as there are friends in reallife meeting in same places to play the game, parents and children are also sharing the experience of M&B crpg/strategus. This is all a good thing. Nevertehless some may use excatly these arguments to get through with multi-accounting. There is something called data-mining i believe, getting answers out of corallations how/when/who engaged in playing crpg/strategus and i know this will be used to seperate the bad apples. So even if you would use a proxy there is a fair chance because of the habits of people who use multiaccounting they will be found. The more energy it would take to cheat the less interesting it gets to use them so. Also there may be changes to the game mechanics which make multi-accounting and account sharing unsuitable/unnesseray. That in mind i'd like to have of our community a brainstorming to help our developers to find ways to discourage these unfair gaming methods.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Xant on October 18, 2011, 10:30:33 am
LEAVE GREY ORDER ALONE! STOP PICKING ON GREY ORDER!

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 18, 2011, 10:31:33 am
Also there may be changes to the game mechanics which make multi-accounting and account sharing unsuitable/unnesseray. That in mind i'd like to have of our community a brainstorming to help our developers to find ways to discourage these unfair gaming methods.


Especially this. Ginger already suggested that Strat money should only be obtainable through playing cRPG. The problem would solve itself without the drama, the administrative burden and the flaws of multiaccount hunting.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2011, 10:31:44 am
Kinngrimm wants to kill the drama....  :evil:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 18, 2011, 10:33:21 am
Kinngrimm wants to kill the drama....  :evil:

Can't we all get along ?  :cry:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Dalhi on October 18, 2011, 11:09:54 am
Maybe... -bollocks-... enough.

There is a difference between multiaccounting (no, no one in GO has or had over 100 warband keys for his own usage  :rolleyes:) and accountsharing which happened in last strategus  :oops:, it means that someone received logins and passwords to over 100 accounts. I was surprised when I saw chadz post, but... well as someone already said numbers grown within months, at some point we had about 130 players. Of course not all of them were active in cRPG, some just in strategus while the others dissaperead after day or two, nothing unusual. Just to make perfectly clear, behind whose warband keys there are real players, we didn't bought over 100 cd keys, I'm to lazy to check who started spreading this bullshit, but it's just your imagination.

About multiaccounting, there were few guys from GO (I'm not sure how many) banned for playing from the same IP adress, and it happened to many others. People have brothers, friends etc. some of them can't play at the same time, as they share same PC, or due to ping issue. You cann't judge with 100% certainitywho is lying about it and who is not. I'm not defending anyone, just sayin'.

This strategus round we are trying to keep as clean and fair as we can. Many things has changed, so we all need to adjust and learn how to actually play this game. Instead of bullshiting on the forum try to find a villige were you can sell your onions with good profit.

Best regards,
Dalhi.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Leesin on October 18, 2011, 06:03:36 pm
There is a difference between multiaccounting (no, no one in GO has or had over 100 warband keys for his own usage  :rolleyes:) and accountsharing which happened in last strategus  :oops:, it means that someone received logins and passwords to over 100 accounts. I was surprised when I saw chadz post, but... well as someone already said numbers grown within months, at some point we had about 130 players. Of course not all of them were active in cRPG, some just in strategus while the others dissaperead after day or two, nothing unusual. Just to make perfectly clear, behind whose warband keys there are real players, we didn't bought over 100 cd keys, I'm to lazy to check who started spreading this bullshit, but it's just your imagination.

About multiaccounting, there were few guys from GO (I'm not sure how many) banned for playing from the same IP adress, and it happened to many others. People have brothers, friends etc. some of them can't play at the same time, as they share same PC, or due to ping issue. You cann't judge with 100% certainitywho is lying about it and who is not. I'm not defending anyone, just sayin'.

This strategus round we are trying to keep as clean and fair as we can. Many things has changed, so we all need to adjust and learn how to actually play this game. Instead of bullshiting on the forum try to find a villige were you can sell your onions with good profit.

Best regards,
Dalhi.

You seem to have got slightly mad, I was merely pointing out REGARDLESS of how the 100 accounts on one IP thing worked out, i.e all real accounts or bought specifically for the idea by members of the clan, it's against the rules and it made me laugh.

 It isn't bullshit either, how am I bullshitting when chadz has clearly stated there were 100 accounts from one IP, that's all I stated, I've not stated you guys were growing marijuana and using autoblock, so I don't see how I am bullshitting anywhere in my post. You broke the rules and that's a fact.

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 18, 2011, 08:09:29 pm
So How many of the 100 Id's were used to vote in the NA vs EU split?!

CONSPIRACY!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 18, 2011, 11:14:39 pm
So How many of the 100 Id's were used to vote in the NA vs EU split?!

CONSPIRACY!

Our evil plan to dominate Calradia is revealed  :o
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 18, 2011, 11:40:57 pm
OKAY.

Official reason why there were 100 keys on 1 IP adress.

Polish people are poor and cannot afford proper PCs and thus all in GO share n play on 1 PC.

Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Christo on October 18, 2011, 11:45:12 pm
Actually where was this 100 keys thing mentioned?

Guess I'm looking at the wrong topics.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 19, 2011, 01:09:54 am
Greys PR just went from Cambodia to 'Nam. I feel bad.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on October 19, 2011, 12:45:53 pm
Actually where was this 100 keys thing mentioned?

Guess I'm looking at the wrong topics.

somewhere around page 1 or 2 I think it was
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Plaksteris on October 19, 2011, 01:01:44 pm
So it means if u go to friend to play u get banned, this is so LAME SWEEET! damn...  :lol:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Christo on October 19, 2011, 01:10:56 pm
somewhere around page 1 or 2 I think it was

Ah, cool. Found it.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,18528.msg264067.html#msg264067 (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,18528.msg264067.html#msg264067)

OMG Greys.. I've lost that minimal respect for the leaders of this order. Duh.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Wookimonsta on October 19, 2011, 02:51:41 pm
So I have a question:
Is only the person that accessed peoples accounts being banned, or does the punishment include the people who gave away their account data? Cause frankly it should be both (imho atleast).
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Arked on October 19, 2011, 03:46:23 pm
OKAY.

Official reason why there were 100 keys on 1 IP adress.

Polish people are poor and cannot afford proper PCs and thus all in GO share n play on 1 PC.

Says the guy that cant even afford a 5$ microphone.
I like you, i dont defend them (what they did is not fair for rest of strat players and imo should be punished accordingly), but youre just fucking retarded.

@Wooki - afaik Harpag is no longer banned?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: polkafranzi on October 19, 2011, 05:41:51 pm
Says the guy that cant even afford a 5$ microphone.

lol

Thing is, he can afford it, but he def has some rl issues that he´s too scared or shy to use a mic.  I think he sounds like that templar dude who sounds like a chick irl.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 19, 2011, 07:25:22 pm
Says the guy that cant even afford a 5$ microphone.
I like you, i dont defend them (what they did is not fair for rest of strat players and imo should be punished accordingly), but youre just fucking retarded.

@Wooki - afaik Harpag is no longer banned?

(click to show/hide)

lol

Thing is, he can afford it, but he def has some rl issues that he´s too scared or shy to use a mic.  I think he sounds like that templar dude who sounds like a chick irl.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 19, 2011, 10:22:47 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

It must be Casimir, you know... the feminity complex is balanced out when you use big poles.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 19, 2011, 10:44:33 pm
It must be Casimir, you know... the feminity complex is balanced out when you use big poles.

Casimir sounds like some famous brit gaming commentator on youtube. Forgot who though. But he really does sound like him  :P
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: The_Angle on October 19, 2011, 11:08:28 pm
Non-Brit Comedy: Dick and fart jokes.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Overdriven on October 20, 2011, 12:39:12 am
Non-Brit Comedy: Dick and fart jokes.

Brit comedy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18bH4XCmHw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NvgBDTCLPk

Yeah understand that Americans HA.

This might be a bit easier for them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ko2nCk_hE
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 20, 2011, 12:46:38 am
Okay let's compare this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79vdlEcWxvM

And this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTq2_3LfXM

Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Overdriven on October 20, 2011, 12:53:15 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTq2_3LfXM

Always hated Ricky Gervais. Michael Mcintyre is much better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75r7UflPoNw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-SQa02vNss&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OKY2jyBm4w&feature=related
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 20, 2011, 01:19:49 am
^

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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kafein on October 21, 2011, 06:40:42 pm
This thread is already on the way for derailing,


Now let's finish it with another funny video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EphcacBt-Mk&feature=related)
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Warpeasant on October 21, 2011, 11:26:10 pm
Ok i have a new pc and i can t find my char when i join multiplayer  :cry:... i dunno what to do :oops:... and i don t know if it gave me a new ip when i connected this pc to the i net first time + i dunno if steam gave me a new serial number but since i still have 3 unused gift mount and blade s in my account i don t think this is the case  :rolleyes:... plz don t ban me until i fired up my old pc to check if both serials are the same and or if i have to download my char profiles from the old mashine... TY +oh and btw. i would give 'em away since i don t need 'em anyone interested? ... all my friends are working to hard to play as it turned out... + + i made a new char. and it gave me some new passw. but i can still log on to start and obviously to crpg...
Oh and if anyone has an idea how to solve my issue it s much appriciated  :lol:... OK NVM. got my char back, didn t know it was that easy... still 3 acc. as free giveaway for ppl that want to get banned ;-) no just kidding
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Rogue_Eagle on October 23, 2011, 12:47:30 am
chadz what is this?

So a friend can't come over to mine with his laptop and play on my connection on his own steam account?

this is silly.
Title: replaced to us IP
Post by: vitaliy_mikh on November 01, 2011, 10:36:19 pm
Greetings, chadz.
Today was baned character Crusader_2011. It's my son Igor Mikhailov played.  He is 12 years old. He has asked me to write you ,that at our place the provider has replaced our IP  address - first time for many years. Remove ban, please.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: JihadistMexican on November 02, 2011, 02:02:48 am
DO IT FOR IGOR chadz  :cry:
Title: Re: replaced to us IP
Post by: polkafranzi on November 02, 2011, 07:51:59 am
Greetings, chadz.
Today was baned character Crusader_2011. It's my son Igor Mikhailov played.  He is 12 years old. He has asked me to write you ,that at our place the provider has replaced our IP  address - first time for many years. Remove ban, please.

DUDE

Tell your "son" to go easy on the tking.

Wrong thread here.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19700.0.html
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kazak on November 02, 2011, 03:55:42 pm
DO IT FOR IGOR chadz  :cry:
Dude Sir You are awesome...
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: LordBerenger on November 02, 2011, 04:26:47 pm
Russians are incapable of understanding sarcasm lol.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kazak on November 02, 2011, 05:32:41 pm
Russians are incapable of understanding sarcasm lol.
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Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: polkafranzi on November 02, 2011, 05:44:05 pm
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 8-)
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 02, 2011, 06:32:21 pm
Looks like a successful troll...
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: DrKronic on November 03, 2011, 12:23:21 am
DO IT FOR IGOR chadz  :cry:

Your knowledge of trolling has improved, you have attained a greater understanding of weak minds and useless banter
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: JihadistMexican on November 03, 2011, 02:21:00 am
Dude Sir You are awesome...

Thank you for your amazing comment.

Your knowledge of trolling has improved, you have attained a greater understanding of weak minds and useless banter

+1
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Kazak on November 03, 2011, 09:24:34 pm
Thank you for your amazing comment.

Your highness is always welcome *cough*...
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Nagasoup on November 04, 2011, 06:42:50 pm
Hi my brother just recently bought a copy of warband, so you're gonna be seeing 2 keys from the same IP soon.

Please don't ban  :(
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 04, 2011, 07:55:51 pm
Hi my brother just recently bought a copy of warband, so you're gonna be seeing 2 keys from the same IP soon.

Please don't ban  :(
A wise choice so he does not get you banned again.  :wink:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Lysander on November 04, 2011, 08:04:03 pm
Hey,
me and my flatemate playing cRPG. Different computers, different CD-keys, same IP.
Hope this information is enough to prevent a ban. If it is necessery to post any other stuff like name of chars, etc. let me know.
Greetings
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: polkafranzi on November 09, 2011, 08:03:53 pm
I'm visiting my family in England from today til the 19th, so myself and my brother will be on the same I.P.

ING_PhilTheRapist and ING_Dan

Not that you can suspect us seeing as i'm on an Austrian I.P. all year round and he's on a U.K. one :P
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Mushy on November 09, 2011, 10:52:14 pm
I'm visiting my family in England from today til the 19th, so myself and my brother will be on the same I.P.

ING_PhilTheRapist and ING_Dan

Not that you can suspect us seeing as i'm on an Austrian I.P. all year round and he's on a U.K. one :P

Dans your brother? Wtf
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 14, 2011, 05:53:57 am
Dans your brother? Wtf
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOL
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Enema_At_The_Gates on November 28, 2011, 02:29:55 am
I constantly have friends who come over and play crpg at my place.  That being said their are going to be like 5 accounts that will come from my ip.  I am just scared of getting banned.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 28, 2011, 01:06:36 pm
I constantly have friends who come over and play crpg at my place.  That being said their are going to be like 5 accounts that will come from my ip.  I am just scared of getting banned.
Do they make accounts on your key? Or log onto their steam accounts?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Original_Sin on November 28, 2011, 01:23:15 pm
Do they make accounts on your key? Or log onto their steam accounts?
obviously that doesn't matter.
the hole idea is that he has 4-5 accounts on 1 IP.
as was said, that is banable.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on November 28, 2011, 01:45:47 pm
obviously that doesn't matter.
the hole idea is that he has 4-5 accounts on 1 IP.
as was said, that is banable.
I was just trying to establish whether he meant alts or actual separate accounts.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Reinhardt on November 28, 2011, 09:16:33 pm
Roommate just bought Warband yesterday or the day before. Just making sure that if you see another key on my IP, it's his.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: FICO on December 07, 2011, 11:40:59 am
i haven't been here and i didn't play warband for some time, but i think that chadz is actually king of trolls.
every now and then, when tensions and whining of users lowers, he comes up with something to piss them off! :)
oh, i can clearly see chadz laughing by the computer, his evil trollish laughter echoing in his small cold student room
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Enema_At_The_Gates on December 22, 2011, 04:36:53 am
Do they make accounts on your key? Or log onto their steam accounts?

They all have separate accounts.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: _Tak_ on January 16, 2012, 11:43:13 am
I am just going to post this so that i won't get ban out of nothing. Sometime i play CRPG in my local library or at college and because of this i will have a different IP. I might also be moving in to another house soon so i will probably have a suspicious ip :D  I hope you guys will understand so that i won't get ban because of this . cheers
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: exelence on January 16, 2012, 01:01:59 pm
How does this effect people that will sometimes play from the same LAN?

Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Cris on January 16, 2012, 11:41:36 pm
My brother and myself play from the same house (difference PCs)


My main is Merc_Cris

His main is either Mr_Potato or Mr_Onion.


We have been on at the same time several times, so that shows we arent the same person :-P
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Murchad on January 17, 2012, 02:01:25 am
I have 4 brothers who play c-rpg each with our own steam account and cd key
I haven't gotten c-rpg to work with any of their accounts on the computers i use with my account
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Silveredge on January 18, 2012, 05:52:44 pm
I just noticed this post.

Before Kiara_ATS gets banned, I'm posting here that it's my girl.  We're always on at the same time.

I'm rather suprised that the idea of having more than one person on the same network was foreign to devs.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Oberyn on January 18, 2012, 09:47:37 pm
It isn't foreign at all. I think it's mostly due to Strategus tbh. I don't see what multiaccounting on just cRPG could bring as advantages.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Reinhardt on January 18, 2012, 09:50:03 pm
It isn't foreign at all. I think it's mostly due to Strategus tbh. I don't see what multiaccounting on just cRPG could bring as advantages.

100 free gold per CD key, that's what! Unacceptable!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on January 22, 2012, 09:38:51 pm
I'm at my girlfriend's at the moment, so please don't ban me for it!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: _Tak_ on January 23, 2012, 11:51:38 am
I just login into my CRPG in college , don't ban me please
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Snoozer on January 23, 2012, 10:24:52 pm
i swear allers and miley must be so pissed that they had to admit they lived in the same house.

only a handful of people know they try to keep pretty private unless there really chill with you
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 23, 2012, 10:29:45 pm
i swear allers and miley must be so pissed that they had to admit they lived in the same house.

only a handful of people know they try to keep pretty private unless there really chill with you

Odd, I've known that from pretty much day 1 that they did.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Allers on January 23, 2012, 11:11:27 pm
:0
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: dynamike on January 23, 2012, 11:13:55 pm
i swear allers and miley must be so pissed that they had to admit they lived in the same house.

only a handful of people know they try to keep pretty private unless there really chill with you

Did you know they are dating too?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Snoozer on January 24, 2012, 05:57:12 am
Odd, I've known that from pretty much day 1 that they did.
they always try to mislead and deny even though everyone asks them consistently
(atleast in my experience when playing with them/being in the same ts as them)

:0
???
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Earthdforce on January 24, 2012, 06:49:40 am
Did you know they are dating too?
Incest is wincest.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Silveredge on January 25, 2012, 08:00:26 pm
Incest is wincest.

Allers an Miley are dudes.  Sorry Bro.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: ManOfWar on January 25, 2012, 08:05:37 pm
Allers an Miley are dudes.  Sorry Bro.

Do you not know what homosexuals are?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Silveredge on January 25, 2012, 08:08:32 pm
No, what are they?  :shock:
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Ecko on January 27, 2012, 05:45:46 pm
Fair warning...I play crpg/strategus from 3 separate locations throughout the day all located within 25 miles of each other.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: dynamike on January 27, 2012, 06:13:56 pm
Fair warning...I play crpg/strategus from 3 separate locations throughout the day all located within 25 miles of each other.

ban.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Count_Curtis on February 08, 2012, 03:08:28 am
Me and my brother both play off one IP, under 2 computers.

I think im ment to post it here, just sayin, dont ban me!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Leshma on February 09, 2012, 02:12:20 pm
It isn't foreign at all. I think it's mostly due to Strategus tbh. I don't see what multiaccounting on just cRPG could bring as advantages.

I'm level 34 and I need some more loom points. Those are expensive and it's much easier to obtain them by playing. However I've decided not to retire anymore.

Only way to do it is by playing with another key and leveling that other char, then sending his looms to my main char on my main account. I guess that's why is forbidden, although I would like it wasn't. Yes, I have a spare key but I ain't using it because I don't want to get banned.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: _Tak_ on February 09, 2012, 02:15:41 pm
I don't understand why ALTS cannot have assess to the market. It takes time and effort to earn gold and such. So why forbidden it? It's not even cheating. (You earn it by playing da game with real time). In strategus yes, but if it was not for strategus then why not?
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Leshma on February 09, 2012, 02:21:36 pm
They don't want high level chars using loomed gear, that's why. You lose 50% of your XP when you respec for the same reason. chadz thinks that too many high level chars will impair the balance of his mod and that's why there are these limitations. Yet, he still has no balls to remove stupid grind from his mod because he fears that he'll lose players. That's why he balance between those two things.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Bozdag on February 10, 2012, 01:53:52 am
I'm playing crpg with my brother. We're playing on 1 IP but he has another mountblade warband cd and serial. So there is a possibility more than 2 keys on my IP. Pls don't ban.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Death_Dealer on February 16, 2012, 05:09:44 am
i wanna have another main also :P retiring with an alt is useless cant trade with it
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Glyph on February 16, 2012, 07:54:33 am
I'm playing crpg with my brother. We're playing on 1 IP but he has another mountblade warband cd and serial. So there is a possibility more than 2 keys on my IP. Pls don't ban.
same here, my brother and i play with 2 serial keys on the same pc(he wanted a main too). hope you'll make sure not to ban any of us either.

thx
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Ridicule on February 19, 2012, 01:19:39 am
I play on a laptop.  I have thought about taking it over to one of my friend's house who plays as well.  We have separate accounts, and so far neither one of us has played Stategus, though we are both interested in learning more about it.  Would there be any problems if we were both to play at the same location?  My account would end up showing multiple IP's if I were to do this. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Adalwulf on February 19, 2012, 01:39:48 am
They don't want high level chars using loomed gear, that's why. You lose 50% of your XP when you respec for the same reason. chadz thinks that too many high level chars will impair the balance of his mod and that's why there are these limitations. Yet, he still has no balls to remove stupid grind from his mod because he fears that he'll lose players. That's why he balance between those two things.

I agree. grinding takes too long. although I understand he wants to limit the ammount of heirlooms but I mean cmon....when running through on siege on the floor all I see is heirlooms...Most people have at elast 2-3 heirlooms by now and players like me who've been playing since the glory days of full plate archer with pin point accuracy and no upkeep have easilly 12 gens of looms.

But back on subject, I agree with gingerpussy on gold should be accumulated on crpg for strat. Would solve many problems with cheaters.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Gomer on February 29, 2012, 01:25:55 am
"Oh no I got banned for having Multiple CD Keys"..... "Time to buy another CD Key"
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Bozdag on March 10, 2012, 10:26:04 pm
I'm playing crpg with my brother. We're playing on 1 IP but he has another mountblade warband cd and serial. So there is a possibility more than 2 keys on my IP. Pls don't ban.

Also he is playing another computer ;) not mine.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2012, 11:26:55 am
from now on my flatmate(s) are playing from the same ip as me too.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on March 11, 2012, 11:33:57 am
i have same IP as my brother(i live in 2 houses so we have 2 same IP's sometimes ) 2 different accounts on one IP
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: masasa on March 11, 2012, 02:17:10 pm
I moved to a different city a bit over week ago, don't ban plz
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: DrKronic on March 11, 2012, 04:15:04 pm

May I axe you a question?

At the present time, in my household me and my friend both have computers(I actually have 3 computers/3 steam accounts in 3 rooms at my house/mine/wife/his)

this guy is a long time IRL friend of mine who has been staying with my family as he's recently been on hard times, if you'd looked into his past he would be playing from an different IP than me(of his own house up north or whatnot)

Now tho if we would be at the same router, different wired links to it, used to be he was across town
 
I have restarted playing(sort of just still very busy IRL) and he hadn't had the urge yet to play again

Have different computers, but shouldn't same router show same basic IP, also my wife's on a another router completely on a wireless(I have multiple routers) and on her steam she has a character(although she hadn't played cRPG in forever)

I haven't had anything happen(of course he hasn't played cRPG), but  I have often wondered if this meant you couldn't have multiple people playing from the same household? 

PS you can skip the middle
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: POOPHAMMER on March 12, 2012, 04:57:22 am
May I axe you a question?

At the present time, in my household me and my friend both have computers(I actually have 3 computers/3 steam accounts in 3 rooms at my house/mine/wife/his)

this guy is a long time IRL friend of mine who has been staying with my family as he's recently been on hard times, if you'd looked into his past he would be playing from an different IP than me(of his own house up north or whatnot)

Now tho if we would be at the same router, different wired links to it, used to be he was across town
 
I have restarted playing(sort of just still very busy IRL) and he hadn't had the urge yet to play again

Have different computers, but shouldn't same router show same basic IP, also my wife's on a another router completely on a wireless(I have multiple routers) and on her steam she has a character(although she hadn't played cRPG in forever)

I haven't had anything happen(of course he hasn't played cRPG), but  I have often wondered if this meant you couldn't have multiple people playing from the same household? 

PS you can skip the middle

You can have multiple people in the same house as long as you can prove it is someone else and not you
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: DrKronic on March 13, 2012, 03:55:35 am
You can have multiple people in the same house as long as you can prove it is someone else and not you

that makes sense
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Ragnar_Ulfson on March 13, 2012, 05:07:31 pm
Great new Patch and everything BUT MULTI'S RESET EVERY MATCH. 
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on March 28, 2012, 08:07:33 am
My housemate is playing cRPG now (yeh another convert :D), he goes by the name of Priest_Lupus. So don't ban him (or me) for suspicious IP stuffs please.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Fartface on March 29, 2012, 05:07:20 pm
I got an brother , that is playing an alt character via my crpg acount.
Named 22nd_Archer_Sexman , he rarely plays however.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on April 04, 2012, 07:48:46 pm
Yet another convert, my gf has come over to cRPG and she is playing at mine. Don't ban us!
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Eugen on April 10, 2012, 09:03:53 pm
same as Tomas_of _Miles above.

Bought my gf the game and she sporadically joins me from our second computer. We usually play together on same server and she is not active in strat. Please dont ban.

Bye the way. I dont see how I could profit from two accounts... And i dont want to know.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Dahobo on April 22, 2012, 11:24:42 pm
My brother just got M&B warband and is now playing Crpg with me just thought you should know.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Heroin on April 25, 2012, 05:30:37 pm
My roommate is going to start playing CRPG. Don't ban please. Thanks.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Aleksej on April 28, 2012, 12:03:10 pm
So, chadzie, do you mean using some accounts in strategus? Or smth like that?
P.S. I bought Steam M&B Warband and before I had non-steam version. So, I use the Steam version. The non-steam Warband I gave to my friend, but he hasn't strated to play cRPG yet (he has some problems with it). Soon he'll buy new computer and then he will start playing this.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: Dutchydave on April 29, 2012, 02:13:09 am
My son and myself have our own pc and version of warband running off the same router.I believe this will give us slightly different ip's anyway.I dont really see what the problem with someone having 2 versions anyway,unless they are banned on 1 account or  are using both accounts at once to leech from a dead server.But I suppose they are the only 2 reasons 1 person would have 2 accounts.

Personally I dont even use my alts as I consider any use of alts is xp my main charactor missed and longer it will be untill they go up a gen.Rarely I will use a skip the fun charactor just to test an idea,but that would only be for like 10mins and i havnt done that for months.
Title: Re: 'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.
Post by: ilikere19 on May 01, 2012, 04:31:58 am
ive played at a friends house is that a possibility of me getting banned 0.o?