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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mustang_Sweets on February 01, 2011, 04:23:37 pm
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Okay, I just found out that masterworking my Espada Eslavona doesn't seem worth it. This comes majorly from the fact that at masterwork it only ends up with +3 cut +4 pierce +2 speed. What happened to my +4 +4 +2? Shoulda I complete this heirloom or just sit on it till a hopeful fix and heirloom something else?
So it's total stats in the end are
Balanced Espada Eslavona
weight - 1
requirement - 10
spd rtng - 101
weapon length - 90
swing damage - 29, cut
thrust damage - 32 pierce
Masterwork Espada Eslavona
weight - 1
requirement - 10
spd rtng - 102
weapon length - 90
swing damage - 29, cut
thrust damage - 33 pierce
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Well what else would you loom?
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My broom or well the knightly arming sword
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As far as I am aware all masterworks were nerfed significantly in the last patch. Mine definitely took a heavy blow.
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It's absolutely not worth heirlooming for 1 extra damage.
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It's absolutely not worth heirlooming for 1 extra damage.
Extra +1 speed ? It's worth it, as long as he use it.
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If it's ALL he uses (a la Walt's awlpike), I can see that. Personally, I don't think +1 dam/speed is worth the ugly grind to 31 all over again.
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Looks strange, if I look at the other Masterwork Swords .... oO
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I think all swords have this problem, not worth getting them past Balanced atm.
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Tell me about it I was about to heirloom my daodao for the 3rd time and it would be +5 damage/+2 speed total, but the masterwork is +1/+1 of that. So i heirloomed my great long axe for +.5 weight, +3 cut damage, +1 blunt damage. I think chadz just hasnt gotten around to rebalancing the heirlooms, because the swords are the worst for it, should only heirlooom twice as masterwork not worth it and the benefits are lesss then other weapons. My axe with 1 heirloom gets over half the damage bonus that the sword gets in 3 and gets more wight so less likely to get block stunned by heavier weapon and to block stun lighter weapons.
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War Spear heirlooming is also messed up.
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Stuff like that happens because modifiers change by a percentive(+10% balanced, +14% masterwork for 1hand sword) at the moment. In the future we will have more modifier groups to balance a bit better or we will hopefully get the possibility to do mixed modifiers (percentive+fixed increase). The latter is not possible at the moment because of lazy chadz - the first because of lazy me+Fasader.
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Stuff like that happens because modifiers change by a percentive(+10% balanced, +14% masterwork for 1hand sword) at the moment. In the future we will have more modifier groups to balance a bit better or we will hopefully get the possibility to do mixed modifiers (percentive+fixed increase). The latter is not possible at the moment because of lazy chadz - the first because of lazy me+Fasader.
+1 :)
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I retired yesterday, made my Espada a masterwork.
Masterwork Long Espada Eslavona
weight: 1.25
req: 10
speed: 100
length: 103
swing: 33 cut
thrust: 32 pierce
This weapon worth it to you?
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. . . and it cost about 400 gold to repair.
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I'm looking forward to masterworking my cleaver (still 2 gens away), and not even for the damage. Just give me that lightning fast 99 speed! Oh yeah!
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I heirloomd my sword to masterwork for 1+ dmg 1+ speed. And I'd say it's worth it.
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. . . and it cost about 400 gold to repair.
I pay more for worse item. It's worth it.
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I'm looking forward to masterworking my cleaver (still 2 gens away), and not even for the damage. Just give me that lightning fast 99 speed! Oh yeah!
You sir, are a certified badass.
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Masterwork cleaver is only 98 speed, but that's better than 96 eh? About the espada eslavona, that's a lot of pierce damage, more than some 2h swords. Its just too bad the 1h thrust animation sucks.
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Masterwork cleaver is only 98 speed, but that's better than 96 eh? About the espada eslavona, that's a lot of pierce damage, more than some 2h swords. Its just too bad the 1h thrust animation sucks.
Some? The only one with more is a MW German greatsword.
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103 length, 100 speed, 33 cut, 32 pierce 1h weapon worth it? Hard one, hard one...
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Are you really bitching?
I masterworked my War Spear and lost stats...
32-33p on thrust
22-21b on swing
98-97 speed.
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Stuff like that happens because modifiers change by a percentive(+10% balanced, +14% masterwork for 1hand sword) at the moment. In the future we will have more modifier groups to balance a bit better or we will hopefully get the possibility to do mixed modifiers (percentive+fixed increase). The latter is not possible at the moment because of lazy chadz - the first because of lazy me+Fasader.
nah, it's because espada thingy was sword_high which has worse percentages.
(this particular problem, at least. We're still lazy scum.)
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Masterwork cleaver is only 98 speed, but that's better than 96 eh? About the espada eslavona, that's a lot of pierce damage, more than some 2h swords. Its just too bad the 1h thrust animation sucks.
Hmm, I see I read the heirloom thread wrong. I consider 98 to be just above the "too slow" cutoff line. Good enough for me.
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Are you really bitching?
I masterworked my War Spear and lost stats...
32-33p on thrust
22-21b on swing
98-97 speed.
what? In-game screenshots of stats please.
weight 1.5
requirement 6
spd rtng 95
weapon length 150
swing damage 18, blunt
thrust damage 28 pierce
Gen1= 96spd 19blunt 30pierce
Gen2= 96spd 20blunt 31pierce
Gen3= 97spd 21blunt 33pierce
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heirlooms need buffing since it takes so much more work post patch to heirloom. Lvl 31 is like 8 million xp, but pre patch you you only needed lvl 15 and the heirloom were better.
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heirlooms need buffing since it takes so much more work post patch to heirloom. Lvl 31 is like 8 million xp, but pre patch you you only needed lvl 15 and the heirloom were better.
At higher gens the trip from 30-31 isn't too bad. Hell, I am gen 2 and I just hit 31 and retired to gen 3 after spending maybe 6 hours as level 30. 6 hours isn't too much of an investment in my opinion, thats like 2-3 solid play sessions for me.
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shocking, I know.
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At higher gens the trip from 30-31 isn't too bad. Hell, I am gen 2 and I just hit 31 and retired to gen 3 after spending maybe 6 hours as level 30. 6 hours isn't too much of an investment in my opinion, thats like 2-3 solid play sessions for me.
lvl 30 - 31 takes 4471826 Exp. 6 hours = 360 Minutes, which means you had 4471826 / 360 Exp per Minute, which is 12422. I call bullshit. Even at Gen 5 with an average Multiplier of x3 you'd need three times as long. At Gen 1 it takes 25 - 35 hours.