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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lt_Anders on January 23, 2011, 11:39:16 pm

Title: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 23, 2011, 11:39:16 pm
NA ATS: 80
Reason: One man was kicked for the Bro rule(Justified) but the other man who was legitimately fighting was kicked as well(losing his bonus).
Admin: Mortymur, (Nindur?)

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It's not the fact that they kicked the wrong man, it's that after they did and everyone was telling them: "Hey, you screwed up!" they decided to hide behind made up rules. This DL_Gunther Guy was trying to call them on it, and say, hey, what the hell, and as you can see, their response was "....your point?".

Please, if you make a mistake, don't be a douche and hide, admit your wrong doing, please. If you can't admit to being at fault, you should not be an admin.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: krauth on January 23, 2011, 11:50:20 pm
I was there when this happened, it would not have been hard to swallow your pride for a second and simply apologize to Legion for making a mistake.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Artyem on January 23, 2011, 11:51:54 pm
I screened it too, I thought I got the picture of the kicks but I didn't. All of my screenshots are the same as yours. But atleast you have a witness.

Oh yeah, wait I did catch it:

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And you can see  the response to "Legion didn't deserve the kick", buuulllshit.

Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Nindur on January 24, 2011, 12:21:44 am
So your problem is that someone was kicked for ignoring a teammate, causing a whole team to lose their modifier? Or do you have a problem with the fact that I told you if you don't like the rules, go play elsewhere? Please clarify.


Also, if this is not a topic about admin abuse or something, why have you created it? I don't understand what your objective is here.......
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Gorath on January 24, 2011, 12:23:30 am
I was there when this happened, it would not have been hard to swallow your pride for a second and simply apologize to Legion for making a mistake.

This is pretty much the only point everyone was trying to make.  I was there as well.

So your problem is that someone was kicked for ignoring a teammate, causing a whole team to lose their modifier? Or do you have a problem with the fact that I told you if you don't like the rules, go play elsewhere? Please clarify.

Nindur, the problem everyone has is that you kicked the guy that got ignored but was fighting as well.  His kick was unjustified, he wasn't ignoring shit and was doing his best to defend himself while outnumbered 2v1 at the end.  Centurion ignored Legion, Legion was fighting.  Afterwards when it was pointed out by the players it was met with "Fuck off.  Don't like it, leave." style responses.  That's the point. 
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 24, 2011, 12:26:26 am
Nindur is Ganguro I herd? Is this true? Then what's come to light in this thread is not suprising, as I've witnessed Ganguro's insults and perminent ban for arguing his hypocracy.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 24, 2011, 12:27:18 am
So your problem is that someone was kicked for ignoring a teammate, causing a whole team to lose their modifier? Or do you have a problem with the fact that I told you if you don't like the rules, go play elsewhere? Please clarify.

No no no, the problem was you kicked 2 people, 1 justified, the other unjustified. One was doing the "Bro Rule" while his buddy was engaged in combat vs 2 others(451 ats and someone else). I have the problem that the guy who legitimately was fighting was kicked, and then, when he tried to ask why, he got told all sorts of rules that he never broke. Then you guys BOTH don't admit to being wrong and kicking 1 man wrongly. That's what i have a problem with. Not the reason, but the fact that you didn't own up to being wrong. You complain about kids in game, well if admins act like kids when the made a legitimate mistake and then don't say, "Sorry, man, we only ment to kick the guy who was following the bro rule, and we didn't know who it was."
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 24, 2011, 12:28:23 am
No no no, the problem was you kicked 2 people, 1 justified, the other unjustified. One was doing the "Bro Rule" while his buddy was engaged in combat vs 2 others(451 ats and someone else). I have the problem that the guy who legitimately was fighting was kicked, and then, when he tried to ask why, he got told all sorts of rules that he never broke. Then you guys BOTH don't admit to being wrong and kicking 1 man wrongly. That's what i have a problem with. Not the reason, but the fact that you didn't own up to being wrong. You complain about kids in game, well if admins act like kids when the made a legitimate mistake and then don't say, "Sorry, man, we only ment to kick the guy who was following the bro rule, and we didn't know who it was."

I proved him wrong and that removed my chances of ever being unbanned from all ATS servers, and he's probably briefed the other admins of my 'racism'. He's living in his own world where he can act like a douche then call other players up for apparant douchebaggery, and if you argue back oh, have a permban kxthxgoodbye
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Gorath on January 24, 2011, 12:28:54 am
Well not that it does any good, nor was I responsible, but I will apologize as an admin for what happened and the responses afterwards to the playerbase.  It was a regrettable situation.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on January 24, 2011, 12:33:26 am
Gorat, stop being so manly.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Miley on January 24, 2011, 12:36:38 am
I'm really disappointed I didn't take screenshots of when Mortymor banned me in November/December.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Nindur on January 24, 2011, 12:48:03 am
Well to answer your question I am not Garguro, also I am not an Administrator, I cannot answer for the the administrator at question, and neither can Gorath. I never said no wrong doing happened, I simply asked for clarification as to what you wanted in this thread. Perhaps one of the players in question should not have been removed, and I would assume that a great deal of hardship was encountered by the player because he was kicked. Also while we are here, you guys should donate to [email protected] through paypal so that the NA servers can continue to operate as well as strategus. You all seem like people who want to add positive things to the community so chip in and help the 100, 80, siege, and strat server stay in operation!


Also, Prime if you wish to be unbanned please post a formal unban request in the appropriate section and you are very likely to be unbanned in a short period of time. Most bans are lifted rather quickly.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Allers on January 24, 2011, 12:56:19 am
Please, nobody say anything about me posting, but a kick is just a kick, not like you can't rejoin the server
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: John on January 24, 2011, 12:57:23 am
This may be partially off topic, but I usually sit back if there are two teammates attacking the last enemy anyway.  I just don't do well as part of a mob.  I'm probably more of a liability than an asset in that situation.  Another admin even tried to kick me for it a while ago.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Nindur on January 24, 2011, 01:04:49 am
Please, nobody say anything about me posting, but a kick is just a kick, not like you can't rejoin the server


Allers you are a fuckin winner. You just made my day with this post. I can't stop smiling right now, I'm genuinely happy that you said something. <3
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Allers on January 24, 2011, 01:08:30 am

Allers you are a fuckin winner. You just made my day with this post. I can't stop smiling right now, I'm genuinely happy that you said something. <3

Im guessing your thinking im being ironic?
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Rumblood on January 24, 2011, 01:18:06 am
Well to answer your question I am not Garguro, also I am not an Administrator, I cannot answer for the the administrator at question, and neither can Gorath. I never said no wrong doing happened, I simply asked for clarification as to what you wanted in this thread. Perhaps one of the players in question should not have been removed, and I would assume that a great deal of hardship was encountered by the player because he was kicked. Also while we are here, you guys should donate to [email protected] through paypal so that the NA servers can continue to operate as well as strategus. You all seem like people who want to add positive things to the community so chip in and help the 100, 80, siege, and strat server stay in operation!


Also, Prime if you wish to be unbanned please post a formal unban request in the appropriate section and you are very likely to be unbanned in a short period of time. Most bans are lifted rather quickly.

You sure popped off like you were though! Perhaps you might sit back and let the real Admins answer here, thx.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Miley on January 24, 2011, 01:25:07 am
Well to answer your question I am not Garguro, also I am not an Administrator, I cannot answer for the the administrator at question, and neither can Gorath. I never said no wrong doing happened, I simply asked for clarification as to what you wanted in this thread. Perhaps one of the players in question should not have been removed, and I would assume that a great deal of hardship was encountered by the player because he was kicked. Also while we are here, you guys should donate to [email protected] through paypal so that the NA servers can continue to operate as well as strategus. You all seem like people who want to add positive things to the community so chip in and help the 100, 80, siege, and strat server stay in operation!


Also, Prime if you wish to be unbanned please post a formal unban request in the appropriate section and you are very likely to be unbanned in a short period of time. Most bans are lifted rather quickly.

What's your definition of "rather quickly?" Lol.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Nindur on January 24, 2011, 01:41:01 am
You sure popped off like you were though! Perhaps you might sit back and let the real Admins answer here, thx.

Sorry, I didn't mean to help :(
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Rumblood on January 24, 2011, 01:44:43 am
Sorry, I didn't mean to help :(

Just muddies the waters if you aren't official, especially when it did come off sounding like you were saying you did the kicking. Let Management deal with this kinda stuff.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 24, 2011, 07:17:06 am
Honestly, I don't bother tangling in any engagement with 2v1 or more.

If you're going to kick me for not being kill hungry, that's fine. I just think it's a silly basis for a kick or ban.

Also:
I proved him wrong and that removed my chances of ever being unbanned from all ATS servers, and he's probably briefed the other admins of my 'racism'. He's living in his own world where he can act like a douche then call other players up for apparant douchebaggery, and if you argue back oh, have a permban kxthxgoodbye

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,151209.msg3634490.html#msg3634490

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,142287.msg3634488.html#msg3634488
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I remember following this. It's a good read x)
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Gorath on January 24, 2011, 07:32:01 am
Honestly, I don't bother tangling in any engagement with 2v1 or more.

If you're going to kick me for not being kill hungry, that's fine. I just think it's a silly basis for a kick or ban.

That's a bit different than seeing your clan-mate and ceasing to help your last teammate in order to allow/force duels.  Not wanting to turn a 2v1 into a 3v1 is understandable.  Not jumping in to turn that 1v1 into a 2v1 though, with your clanmate on the other team is a bit obvious "bro" ruling (oh how I fucking hate that halo-tard frat boy word).
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 24, 2011, 07:53:15 am
That's a bit different than seeing your clan-mate and ceasing to help your last teammate in order to allow/force duels.  Not wanting to turn a 2v1 into a 3v1 is understandable.  Not jumping in to turn that 1v1 into a 2v1 though, with your clanmate on the other team is a bit obvious "bro" ruling (oh how I fucking hate that halo-tard frat boy word).

lol bro. bruh. bra.

Let it be known I don't like it either. But Troublesome says it so much I've noticed it seep into my language :(

But yes, I agree with you. I turn 1v1s into 2v1s easy. But mobbing isn't my cup'o tea.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on January 24, 2011, 07:56:54 am
Mobbing is more dangerous to the mob, sadly.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: ShinySpoons on January 24, 2011, 09:24:04 am
lol bro. bruh. bra.

Let it be known I don't like it either. But Troublesome says it so much I've noticed it seep into my language :(


Omg I just noticed I've been saying bro irl alot more since I've been on ts. What have you done to me?!

Usually if there's a 2-3 guys banging on a shield I'll come help out from behind, but if the guy getting mobbed is a 2h/polearm I steer clear. Reason being, when I'm on my 2hander I prefer a few opponents as they're more likely to get in each others way and be sloppier defensively. The few times I'm really on my game and against 3-5 guys there is at least a tk or a tw that leads to me killing the guy stumbled.


Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: krampe on January 24, 2011, 11:30:30 am
I like Bra's (not on myself, they are so itchy... wait, what?) :D

Well not that it does any good, nor was I responsible, but I will apologize as an admin for what happened and the responses afterwards to the playerbase.  It was a regrettable situation.

That can't be you! What have you done to Gorath? Spit him out again!!
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 24, 2011, 12:35:03 pm
Honestly, I don't bother tangling in any engagement with 2v1 or more.

If you're going to kick me for not being kill hungry, that's fine. I just think it's a silly basis for a kick or ban.

Also:
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,151209.msg3634490.html#msg3634490

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,142287.msg3634488.html#msg3634488
~~

I remember following this. It's a good read x)

I was a bit angry writing that thread, one of my first complaint ones I think? I was also angry with Ganguro for automatically banning me instead of giving me a kick warning first or anything, which I thought was normal server procedure, especially since I don't remember breaking any obvious server rules. If you notice his replies, he's quite rude towards me, critisizing my hours for playing the game, and we continued arguing like that through PMs which set my ban in concrete.

He acted like this at Christmas, can't imagine what he'd act like normally lol.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Nindur on January 24, 2011, 12:38:34 pm
I was a bit angry writing that thread, one of my first complaint ones I think? I was also angry with Ganguro for automatically banning me instead of giving me a kick warning first or anything, which I thought was normal server procedure, especially since I don't remember breaking any obvious server rules. If you notice his replies, he's quite rude towards me, critisizing my hours for playing the game, and we continued arguing like that through PMs which set my ban in concrete.

He acted like this at Christmas, can't imagine what he'd act like normally lol.

Just start an unban top in the appropriate place and it will be looked at. No single person has final say on anything, except maybe chadz if he decides to turn off his computer :O
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 24, 2011, 12:44:00 pm
Just start an unban top in the appropriate place and it will be looked at. No single person has final say on anything, except maybe chadz if he decides to turn off his computer :O

I made an unban thread in the NA ATS server section, to which Lorne replied something along the lines of 'Perminent bans are perminent that's why they're called Perminent bans', and a small disagreement ensued and my unban request thread was DELETED.

I won't bother making another only to be treated like a piece of dirt under the admins of ATS servers fingernails. I tried to make a mense, I promised never to bring up controversial subjects regarding society in particular American society again, and to drop the past arguments and play quietly, that's not enough. I wont apologise for being correct in my judgement about Ganguro, I will apologise for some of the language I used, but I still feel I've been wronged by the admins there more than any harm I may have caused on the NA ATS servers by anything I've ever said on their server. I'm sure no one is crying right now about some of the crap I spouted back then.

Yet here I am, over 3 weeks since my ban.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: UrLukur on January 24, 2011, 12:49:05 pm
Just start an unban top in the appropriate place and it will be looked at. No single person has final say on anything, except maybe chadz if he decides to turn off his computer :O

There is no point arguing with assholes.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Nindur on January 24, 2011, 01:04:48 pm
There is no point arguing with assholes.

Thanks for your constructive input! I can tell you like to give back to the community!


Prime, make another thread, and for god sakes don't chirp anyone. I know you feel like you have been wronged but just consider what someone  thinks when they read a thread that calls them out, now consider what if that person was deciding to unban you.....know what I'm sayin

Also, in the future, take into consideration the fact that there are people who have tremendous influence in the community. For instance, let's say chadz was in Garguro's position, right now instead of posting on the forums, you would be playing native. Hate it or Love it, this mod is resting on the backs of a select few, and without them this mod ceases to exist, these forums disappear. Regardless if you hate that fact it exists and there is nothing you can say or do that can change that, so the best that you can do is try and move on, get unbanned, and try and enjoy the mod for what it is. Also, in the event that you do get unbanned, please, please, please try and be cautious of who you chirp at, I get angry sometimes just like any other player, and what I find works best, is to just quit the game for a short time. If someone starts chirping me, and It's just not a good day for me, I just quit and go play some Half-Life 2 for a few minutes, then come back and try again.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: nuffen on January 24, 2011, 01:06:47 pm
There is no point arguing with assholes.

What? Noticed the topic? Counter Dicks!
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: UrLukur on January 24, 2011, 01:26:43 pm
What? Noticed the topic? Counter Dicks!

Yeah.

And i am not banned yet nindur.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Nindur on January 24, 2011, 01:28:54 pm
I meant that in reply to prime.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Grey on January 24, 2011, 02:05:57 pm
PRIME: Im not sure, but doesnt Garguro have the server rental contract for NA servers? I havent asked him, but I think he does, so ultimately, if he doesnt want you there, your NOT THERE Prime, this isnt a democracy, its not a public RIGHT to play crpg either. Brownnose him if you have to, but sticking to your guns and calling him out probably wont shame him into unbanning you, his word, I believe, IS law, so you can go play native with a sense of burning injustice, or just stfu, expose your anus and hand him the lube. And then play CRPG some more. I have had to bite my tongue to avoid permaban before on many servers, just cause someone is wrong doesnt mean they have to graciously bow out: Im not taking anyone's side, but arguing with an absolute monarch used to get your head on a pike, now it just gets you a ban.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Diavolo on January 24, 2011, 02:17:52 pm
I havent really noticed much admins abusing their powers yet. It might happen, I dont know, but the fact that this topic exists is proof that some people are having the feeling that admins are somewhat abusive with their powers. (whether thats correct or not) So, everyone stop the namecalling and admins try to think about what image of yourself as an admin you are creating in the players. Also, why are you an admin? is it to help out the community? make an as good as possible cRPG experience for everyone on the server? or is being an admin just an e-peen extension for you? (if you answered yes on the last one, plz gtfo)

Anyway, I think most (if not all) the admins are here to help us all, stop griefers and intentional tkers and basically do good deeds for the cRPG community. I also believe that none of the admins are childish brats who get into silly arguments with trolls, so if some of them managed that some time, it must have been in a very weak moment and will most likely never happen again.

Also, if someone gets in a situation where an admin is abusing his/her powers repeatedly, fraps is a good program to get it all documented and actually have proof in the removal of the admin. (without video its hard for other to take a stand on the situation, and to remove an admin you really need to have some solid facts. also if there actually are seriously abusive admins out there, they should be removed asap)
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 24, 2011, 04:09:14 pm
I havent really noticed much admins abusing their powers yet. It might happen, I dont know, but the fact that this topic exists is proof that some people are having the feeling that admins are somewhat abusive with their powers. (whether thats correct or not) So, everyone stop the namecalling and admins try to think about what image of yourself as an admin you are creating in the players. Also, why are you an admin? is it to help out the community? make an as good as possible cRPG experience for everyone on the server? or is being an admin just an e-peen extension for you? (if you answered yes on the last one, plz gtfo)

TBH, This thread was to point out a fallacy with 1 admin(and nindur who argued WITH the admin, both ATS). It's not to state admin abuse(though Prime and those little group there are hijacking this thread), but to tell the admins, Don't be dicks if you make a mistake. Don't know bout you, but seriously, making a mistake and then not apologizing isn't cool.(Thanks Gorath for the apology, but you should direct it to the other man).

Tis All. I think we can close this thread. The point has been discussed, and Mortymur doesn't need punishment unless this happens again(we are all humans and make mistakes).

-Case Closed.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 24, 2011, 04:32:07 pm
TBH, This thread was to point out a fallacy with 1 admin(and nindur who argued WITH the admin, both ATS). It's not to state admin abuse(though Prime and those little group there are hijacking this thread), but to tell the admins, Don't be dicks if you make a mistake. Don't know bout you, but seriously, making a mistake and then not apologizing isn't cool.(Thanks Gorath for the apology, but you should direct it to the other man).

Tis All. I think we can close this thread. The point has been discussed, and Mortymur doesn't need punishment unless this happens again(we are all humans and make mistakes).

-Case Closed.

I don't mean to hijack, I assumed that people with similar issues with admins would like to share and unite, I wasn't aware that some people like to cry injustice then spit on others injustice if you want to share your own personal experiences in similar cirumstances. I'm not totally suprised though, your issues are over and now it's time to pick bits out of people who still have issues with some admins because it's not an issue relevant to yourself anymore.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: forgivers on January 24, 2011, 04:35:39 pm
PRIME: Im not sure, but doesnt Garguro have the server rental contract for NA servers? I havent asked him, but I think he does, so ultimately, if he doesnt want you there, your NOT THERE Prime, this isnt a democracy, its not a public RIGHT to play crpg either. Brownnose him if you have to, but sticking to your guns and calling him out probably wont shame him into unbanning you, his word, I believe, IS law, so you can go play native with a sense of burning injustice, or just stfu, expose your anus and hand him the lube. And then play CRPG some more. I have had to bite my tongue to avoid permaban before on many servers, just cause someone is wrong doesnt mean they have to graciously bow out: Im not taking anyone's side, but arguing with an absolute monarch used to get your head on a pike, now it just gets you a ban.

100% agree with you but it's should be different when you do ask this

Hey everyone, Nindur from ATS here. The days of January are flying by and we will soon be at the months end, to most of you that means little but to some of us that means it's time to make sure we have quality servers to play on.

The NA siege server, the NA 80 man, and maybe most importantly the NA strategus server require donations to keep them going this month!! So if you are able to donate I urge you to do so! Anything from 5 cents to 1000 dollars (I can dream)  helps!

Also I would like to leave you with a brief explanation of the easiest way to donate. I have overheard some people saying they would like to donate but they are weary of using their credit card or banking information online. My friends I would like to introduce you to www.paypal.com! Paypal is the worlds foremost authority on secure Internet transactions! Trusted by every company from eBay to MasterCard paypal will take the payment from your credit card or bank account and then send the money to where ever you choose. In the event that something bad ever did happen you would be protected through paypal and depending on the situation you would usually be given your money back if it was an illegitimate transaction or scam. I have personal experience with this and I love it!

So if you can please send any donations to [email protected], and keep in mind that we depend on your donations to keep all our NA servers running for everyone to enjoy and to the strat factions: who wants to siege a castle on EU ping?! So let's get together and do this, let's keep the NA servers strong!

anyway never had any problem with Na admin, just pointing out something to grey, as for the kick, shit happen
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 24, 2011, 05:03:38 pm
I don't mean to hijack, I assumed that people with similar issues with admins would like to share and unite, I wasn't aware that some people like to cry injustice then spit on others injustice if you want to share your own personal experiences in similar cirumstances. I'm not totally suprised though, your issues are over and now it's time to pick bits out of people who still have issues with some admins because it's not an issue relevant to yourself anymore.

Sigh, read the first post. This topic was not about circumstances to a ban(or whatever), but to point out a problem with 1 admin, who didn't want to say sorry. That's why I said you hijacked it cause you started talking about OMG UNBAN ME. Also, as note: this wasn't about me, it's about someone else. I'm just a community advocate. Handle ban problems in another thread, not here. This isn't an admin abuse thread, but a Admin, please say sorry if you make a mistake, thread.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 24, 2011, 05:12:04 pm
Sigh, read the first post. This topic was not about circumstances to a ban(or whatever), but to point out a problem with 1 admin, who didn't want to say sorry. That's why I said you hijacked it cause you started talking about OMG UNBAN ME. Also, as note: this wasn't about me, it's about someone else. I'm just a community advocate. Handle ban problems in another thread, not here. This isn't an admin abuse thread, but a Admin, please say sorry if you make a mistake, thread.

AFAIC, an admins behaviour has EVERYTHING to do with my ban, and no I haven't said OMG UNBAN ME. I've been asking the admin in my case to own up, just as you've been asking one to apologise, ok fine I won't post anything else in this thread if it pleases you so.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Furax on January 24, 2011, 05:20:43 pm
Someone got kicked for beeing a poor teamplayer? I love it, keep it up.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: CtrlAltDe1337 on January 24, 2011, 07:09:21 pm
This thread is so stupid.  All of you need to calm down, apologize, and move along.  I can't believe this sort of crap happens in this day and age.  I will have to become a sociologist and find out what it is about the internet and crowds that make people so bloody retarded.

Nindur & others, if you did something wrong you need to man up and admit it, and stop with the "its not your right to play on the servers" comments, that isn't helpful.  You've been given a lot of responsibility by being admin, and you are supposed to use that power appropriately and not get inflated with your own ego.

To the mob: stop whining, raging, trolling, and crying.  If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't.  And post in the proper sections, there is a whole subforum for unban requests.  Stop the stupid e-drama garbage, it just makes you look dumber.
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 24, 2011, 07:26:14 pm
Wow, this whole thread is like an episode of Dallas or something! Awesome stuff! Have no idea who any of you are, since i only play on EU, but i think i will join the NA servers - just to feel as a part of a colossal drama!

Let me just find my cowboy hat... pretty sure i got one on New Years night.

( no sarcasm btw, i am genuinely intrigued by wtf is going on on NA servers )
Title: Re: ATS Admins: Please Don't be Counter Dicks.
Post by: Gash on January 24, 2011, 07:37:26 pm
Ctrl is right.

Folks need to chill. It was just a kick. The admin could apologize, but the players could also avoid placing themselves in precarious situations where admin is unsure of the player's intent.

For what its worth, mortymer is a decent guy with a good track-record for Server admin.

Over a Hundred people play on the NA servers daily and don't get kicked or banned. They're there to play the game. If everyone did the same we wouldn't need to be so on alert for behavior which can be construed as improper, or not helping.

Let me ask you this; have you ever seen a Hockey or Football referee apologize to any player for his call on a penalty? Even if the replay shows him wrong?  :wink: :mrgreen:

Have you seen what happens to a player who argues or insults the referee after he is penalized? He gets an additional 5 minutes or game suspension! Oh the horror! The injustice!  :mrgreen:

Anyways, chill people. Play the game the way its meant to be played, avoid the trolling and arguing, and you'll be playing this mod uninterrupted.