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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Loki on August 29, 2011, 12:07:37 pm

Title: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Loki on August 29, 2011, 12:07:37 pm
Attacking and defending armies aren't losing gear.

Example:  Neutral castle has 1.5Mil worth of gear, gets attacked by army of 6k troops with 2Mil worth of gear.  Attacking army loses 4k troops and neutral castle loses 4500 troops, attacking army ends up with 3.5Mil worth of gear.

This has currently been exploited by Grey Order, Chaos, LLJK, anyone with a battle since the last patch.  Shame noone is reporting it.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: a_bear_irl on August 29, 2011, 12:14:04 pm
but you havent had a seige in a while and you're still reporting it so you must be a dirty, SHAMEFUL exploiter yourself
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Classical on August 29, 2011, 12:14:45 pm
It's been reported, but it's more so a shame that you're sitting here trying to pass some sort of self-righteous sentence on the clans who continued their daily activities within Strategus instead of ceasing to play the game after reporting said issue.

Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on August 29, 2011, 12:45:04 pm
I like how he reports the bug then says he isnt having anything to do with it...

Then how do you know there is such a bug?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Erasmas on August 29, 2011, 01:13:19 pm
Well, I posted some time ago about motivation for battles. It is a good one. It balances out the shittiness of castles. To some extent.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Loki on August 29, 2011, 01:31:47 pm
Hopefully there will be a roll back, but doubtful.

Anyway, the silence is deafening in the Strategus Issues thread about this GIANT exploit, considering there have been 4-5 sieges.  You can get pissed off at me for calling you out, but I'm not the one exploiting.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Blondin on August 29, 2011, 01:52:33 pm
I didn't understand why ppl were attacking caslte (no good recruit, no good money), now it makes sense.

I doubt too that there will be a rollback (it works in both way, gain or loose ressources by exploit/glitch/bug), may be attacking AI castle should be freeze for now.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Erasmas on August 29, 2011, 01:59:22 pm
Hopefully there will be a roll back, but doubtful.

Anyway, the silence is deafening in the Strategus Issues thread about this GIANT exploit, considering there have been 4-5 sieges.  You can get pissed off at me for calling you out, but I'm not the one exploiting.

Well, majority of clans is aware of that, look at the list of battles. I personally count on a new, fabulous and shiny patch (including economy etc.) that will have to include wipe.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on August 29, 2011, 02:21:47 pm
Well, majority of clans is aware of that, look at the list of battles. I personally count on a new, fabulous and shiny patch (including economy etc.) that will have to include wipe.

This. Wipe + new strat.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: HarunYahya on August 29, 2011, 02:41:35 pm
Is it a bug or implement ?
Winner of the battle can loot the equipments used on battlefield so dat makes sense tbh.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on August 29, 2011, 02:43:24 pm
bagousers
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: a_bear_irl on August 29, 2011, 04:00:15 pm
also i'd like to add, i don't see any reason why the attackers wouldn't get the gear realistically, to the victor go the spoils and all that.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: PhantomZero on August 29, 2011, 04:25:49 pm
I told chadz about this a week ago, as soon as we discovered it after beating the Pecores at Hawaha. Specifically, it would appear the winner of the battle gets all the gear, and nobody loses any gear.

It's not that the attacker's should realistically lose the gear, its that none of it is lost during the battle.

Yeah, not like your vassal didn't launch a major offensive to take out Acre with thousands of very expensive horses that they lost approximately 0 of, you can't really claim the moral high ground here.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on August 29, 2011, 04:28:56 pm
Yeah, not like your vassal didn't launch a major offensive to take out Acre with thousands of very expensive horses that they lost approximately 0 of, you can't really claim the moral high ground here.

This. This and this.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on August 29, 2011, 04:34:01 pm
And here comes butthurt VVar to shit in yet another thread.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 29, 2011, 04:36:24 pm
Oh look, mud flinging...

Everybody shut up.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on August 29, 2011, 04:36:30 pm
And here comes butthurt VVar to shit in yet another thread.

Mad?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Warcat on August 29, 2011, 04:57:09 pm
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Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Overdriven on August 29, 2011, 05:58:15 pm
Yeah, not like your vassal didn't launch a major offensive to take out Acre with thousands of very expensive horses that they lost approximately 0 of, you can't really claim the moral high ground here.

I wouldn't say thousands  :rolleyes: But we didn't know of this bug until after this battle, seeing as it was our first real battle since strat came out (except Ada Kulun vs 500). We bought that many horses because we had about 10 GK at least who said they could be there + randomers who play cav. And we could afford it.

I can see some of the sense. In that the victor would scavenge armour and weapons from the battlefield.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Classical on August 29, 2011, 08:48:15 pm
Hopefully there will be a roll back, but doubtful.

Anyway, the silence is deafening in the Strategus Issues thread about this GIANT exploit, considering there have been 4-5 sieges.  You can get pissed off at me for calling you out, but I'm not the one exploiting.

Most of the individuals who noticed the bug would rather (Probably did) just tell the development team directly instead of coming onto the public forums and flailing their arms around like a huge fucking moron, not to mention every single clan that has engaged in a battle in the past week is "exploiting", I guess.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on August 30, 2011, 12:26:06 am
I love fallens how they are whinning about things that they are using also lol.Try to look shit on your pants before gonna tell something about others shit.We all tell devs about this but they didnt change it so we need to wipe byzantium as fast as possible.

I think they are making about this raid things so its logical to have some equips back.Not really all of them but its logical to loot from field.

Using your schizophrenic vassal abay and GKs is same as you did shame on you fallens you suck about arguement as same as your fighting skills which i can kill your commander without wpf
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 30, 2011, 12:31:34 am
Oh look, people are shit talking but not attacking those that they shit talk... like usual... another typical day at cRPG where the word of the day is Bluster.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on August 30, 2011, 12:32:46 am
you suck about arguement

Oh yes you do.

Anyway, the GK didn't know of this exploit/bug and we didn't tell them before they already attacked. Stop saying we're using this without knowing any circumstances.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Darkkarma on August 30, 2011, 12:33:08 am
Most of the individuals who noticed the bug would rather (Probably did) just tell the development team directly instead of coming onto the public forums and flailing their arms around like a huge fucking moron, not to mention every single clan that has engaged in a battle in the past week is "exploiting", I guess.  :rolleyes:

Don't make sense in this thread, please.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on August 30, 2011, 12:35:31 am
Oh yes you do.

Anyway, the GK didn't know of this exploit/bug and we didn't tell them before they already attacked. Stop saying we're using this without knowing any circumstances.
Which we dont know before attacking ?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on August 30, 2011, 12:38:43 am
Which we dont know before attacking ?

I don't understand this, please clarify?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on August 30, 2011, 12:42:38 am
I don't understand this, please clarify?
U said GK dont know about this bug before they attack which we dont know before attacking byzantium understand Sun GoD
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on August 30, 2011, 12:49:17 am
Alright.

Sun GoD... Thats gotta be a new one.

What are you then, PhilosopheR? :)
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on August 30, 2011, 12:50:47 am
Alright.

Sun GoD... Thats gotta be a new one.

What are you then, PhilosopheR? :)
scourge of god i guess
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on August 30, 2011, 12:51:49 am
Theres some big dicks swinging around in this thread!

Berenger where the fuck are you!
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 30, 2011, 12:54:02 am
Theres some big dicks swinging around in this thread!

Berenger where the fuck are you!

I like that you are implying something about Berenger.  :lol:
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on August 30, 2011, 12:57:18 am
I like that you are implying something about Berenger.  :lol:

Hes just usually here before i am with some witty of the cuff post, as im sure your aware by now im not original.

Only relentless in my efforts to poke people. Especially the fallens who are all mad.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 30, 2011, 12:59:13 am
Fallen just all have penis envy, they are always mad.

I wanted this to be the new Fallen Recruitment text but they all downvoted it because it struck too close to home:
Tired of being called a dickless my old friendcher like it is a bad thing? Join us, we are too.
Here amongst the Fallen, we don't think being dickless is something to be ashamed of, and we openly embrace our homosexuality.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Warcat on August 30, 2011, 05:05:57 am
Fallens :arrow: :mad: :arrow: ALWAYS
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Darkkarma on August 30, 2011, 06:41:40 am
Fallen just all have penis envy, they are always mad.

I wanted this to be the new Fallen Recruitment text but they all downvoted it because it struck too close to home:
Tired of being called a dickless my old friendcher like it is a bad thing? Join us, we are too.
Here amongst the Fallen, we don't think being dickless is something to be ashamed of, and we openly embrace our homosexuality.





Stay here, stay queer, stay fallen! yeah!
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on August 30, 2011, 07:37:42 am
It's ok to exploit bugs if you report it first!
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Slantedfloors on August 30, 2011, 08:03:22 am
It's ok to exploit bugs if you report it first!
Given the frequency of bugs in Strategus and the glacial pace of their correction, this is the correct answer unless you like not doing anything ever.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Darkkarma on August 30, 2011, 08:07:08 am
Given the frequency of bugs in Strategus and the glacial pace of their correction, this is the correct answer unless you like not doing anything ever.

Or everyone could just be super serious and honrable in this strat beta phase and just promise not to do anything until it gets fixed sometime in the unforeseeable future- wait, I can think of a few dozen people who would complain about strat inactivity if it even came to that.So yeah, It's been reported, play/complain on kids.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Overdriven on August 30, 2011, 04:54:55 pm
Seems to be fixed now. We lost one horse in Fishara when we got off it  :lol:
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Razzen on August 30, 2011, 11:49:23 pm
Fallen just all have penis envy, they are always mad.

I wanted this to be the new Fallen Recruitment text but they all downvoted it because it struck too close to home:
Tired of being called a dickless my old friendcher like it is a bad thing? Join us, we are too.
Here amongst the Fallen, we don't think being dickless is something to be ashamed of, and we openly embrace our homosexuality.


I think the one they used when I applied for fallen was:
Tired of being called a dickless spammer like it is a bad thing? Join us, we are too.
Here amonst the Fallen, we dont think being dickless is something to be ashamed of, and we openly embrace our homosexuality

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 31, 2011, 12:18:20 am
That sounds more bisexual then homosexual... bah, damned hybrids.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 31, 2011, 07:24:27 pm
I didn't understand why ppl were attacking caslte (no good recruit, no good money), now it makes sense.

I doubt too that there will be a rollback (it works in both way, gain or loose ressources by exploit/glitch/bug), may be attacking AI castle should be freeze for now.

Well castles help with your troops upkeep cost (not sure the specifics, just hearsay).  And castles are much easier to defend than a village.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Slantedfloors on August 31, 2011, 11:20:04 pm
Well castles help with your troops upkeep cost (not sure the specifics, just hearsay).  And castles are much easier to defend than a village.
The battles themselves are also hella fun.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Jarlek on September 01, 2011, 01:17:35 am
ToD, could you do us all a favour? Giving Vibe a "no commenting on official forums" rule since all he comes with is crap?

On topic: nice to have a public report of this glitch. Just don't go around saying that everyone is "abusing" this. Should we all stop fighting just because of it? No, that would be too boring and would further delay all the other bugs we have to find (this is Beta, we are all QA tester) and delay the FUTURE STRAT OF PURE AWESOME even further.

Also, I say this is a good thing/feature/bug/whatever. The victor SHOULD keep all the equipment. Maybe not all, that would be too OP, but all the unused plus x% of what was used.

And at Vibe, saying the others abused it and you guys don't because you didn't know about it is kinda silly. It's not like the rest of us knew this and last time I checked people where fighting for more reasons than just to "abuse" this glitch. It's also not like we knew about this glitch in the beginning.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on September 01, 2011, 07:39:03 am
ToD, could you do us all a favour? Giving Vibe a "no commenting on official forums" rule since all he comes with is crap?

And at Vibe, saying the others abused it and you guys don't because you didn't know about it is kinda silly. It's not like the rest of us knew this and last time I checked people where fighting for more reasons than just to "abuse" this glitch. It's also not like we knew about this glitch in the beginning.

ToD can't give rules to Vibe.
Also, where did I say "others abused it"?

But it's ok to be butthurt by my posts, don't feel bad.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 01, 2011, 07:42:11 am
Vibe and me are the official Fallen Mascots, I don't think it would be ethical for either of us to be silenced.

Besides, I don't see VVarlord being controlled by the Risen, psh psh psh  :lol:

And as Vibes says, I can't give rules to him. (I am the little spoon of our relationship)
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on September 01, 2011, 08:02:53 am
ToD is even a bigger troll than I am, he's just very subtle at that.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Jarlek on September 01, 2011, 11:50:12 am
ToD can't give rules to Vibe.
Also, where did I say "others abused it"?

But it's ok to be butthurt by my posts, don't feel bad.
Butthurt I ain't
But you claim what you can't
So go home and cry
Cause jebus here's to die
For all the sins of man
OH SHIT HERE'S THE TINCAN!

Basically becuase you shit in every thread and ruin any kind of discussion is going on. So please GTFO.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on September 01, 2011, 11:56:43 am
Butthurt I ain't
But you claim what you can't
So go home and cry
Cause jebus here's to die
For all the sins of man
OH SHIT HERE'S THE TINCAN!

Basically becuase you shit in every thread and ruin any kind of discussion is going on. So please GTFO.

Sup O.G., did you just listen to an Ice Cube record or something?
Feel any madder now?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on September 01, 2011, 12:34:53 pm
Vibes comments arnt even worth quoting jarlek.

Tears on the other hand always puts up a compelling arguement or responds with some wit.

Thread successfully derailed. Please lock when ready.  :D
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on September 01, 2011, 12:41:49 pm
Shitposting in worthless threads is serious business.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: VVarlord on September 01, 2011, 12:50:08 pm
Vibes comments arnt even worth quoting jarlek.

I on the other hand are fucking awesome to quote.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on September 01, 2011, 05:19:35 pm
Fallens u never understand that all community hates you because of these type of members.Try to find ally different than BRD lol backstabber faction.Kıngdom of the veluca ? they are 48 hours far away than veluca.HRE ? lost 1500 troops against naked army.

Keep it up! And please hire only fallens when u have a battle  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Warcat on September 01, 2011, 05:44:31 pm
You just mentioned 3 factions that don't hate us, like it or not, they're a part of the community too. But really, we would be doing something wrong if tons of people didn't hate us. We join Fallen because everyone hates us, or to use some quotes...
Quote from: Beauchamp
Have you sinned, have you commit a murder? Are you pushed to the edge of world by noblemen you offended? Were you born black, jewish, crippled, do people hate you for no reason at all? Or do you just like blood…

Just sit by and join the FALLEN BRIGADE, because we don't care what you’ve done. But we know The Cure for your inner Daemons. You know what we mean…. blood and steel, pillage and plunder!

Caladria will be shaken by death and horror. Cities shall be burned to the ground and all the nobles will fear us, because we shall trample them underfeet.
Tired of being called a dickless my old friendcher like it is a bad thing?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Vibe on September 01, 2011, 05:47:51 pm
We feed on your silly hatred Cicero.
But it's ok, the world isn't such a bad place. You'll realize that when you step out of puberty.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 01, 2011, 05:55:08 pm
Fallens u never understand that all community hates you because of these type of members.Try to find ally different than BRD lol backstabber faction.Kıngdom of the veluca ? they are 48 hours far away than veluca.HRE ? lost 1500 troops against naked army.

Keep it up! And please hire only fallens when u have a battle  :lol: :lol:

Uh... Cicero, you can't be that Naive... that is my job...

Our reputation is not accidental, it is on purpose, do you not understand that? The Community can say all that it wants, in the end we have one of the largest clans (now over 100 active members), have perfect relations with the select few clans we actually want to have perfect relations with, have one of the largest territorial holdings in Calradia, have one of the largest armies in all of Calradia, between the sheer quantity of active players and our numerous "no-life" players don't have any shortage of gold, always have plenty of other non-affiliated people to choose from if we need to fill a battle roster, the list goes on...

I don't think you understand that The Fallen have never complained about the community not liking us, though you will find plenty of posts on these forums of us ridiculing other clans.

Yes, we will keep it up, thank you. Our diplomacy is extremely clear cut and easy, life is good when you are a Fallen for you always know who your enemy is.

Say Cicero, how is your clan doing in Strategus?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Warcat on September 01, 2011, 06:10:43 pm
Say Cicero, how is your clan doing in Strategus?

They have a clan in strategus?
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on September 01, 2011, 06:13:01 pm
Uh... Cicero, you can't be that Naive... that is my job...

Our reputation is not accidental, it is on purpose, do you not understand that? The Community can say all that it wants, in the end we have one of the largest clans (now over 100 active members), have perfect relations with the select few clans we actually want to have perfect relations with, have one of the largest territorial holdings in Calradia, have one of the largest armies in all of Calradia, between the sheer quantity of active players and our numerous "no-life" players don't have any shortage of gold, always have plenty of other non-affiliated people to choose from if we need to fill a battle roster, the list goes on...

I don't think you understand that The Fallen have never complained about the community not liking us, though you will find plenty of posts on these forums of us ridiculing other clans.

Yes, we will keep it up, thank you. Our diplomacy is extremely clear cut and easy, life is good when you are a Fallen for you always know who your enemy is.

Say Cicero, how is your clan doing in Strategus?
Your villages =9 my villages = 6 u got 100 active members i got only 45. You will see what we gonna do in next episode  :lol:
I said please hire only FALLEN players from that 100 active to your battles so we can see how u gonna suck as same as dusturil.
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Jarlek on September 01, 2011, 07:08:46 pm
Your villages =9 my villages = 6 u got 100 active members i got only 45. You will see what we gonna do in next episode  :lol:
I said please hire only FALLEN players from that 100 active to your battles so we can see how u gonna suck as same as dusturil.
Taking villages. Like a bawse!
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on September 01, 2011, 07:18:56 pm
Taking villages. Like a bawse!
İ really hate your word shortening
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Jarlek on September 01, 2011, 07:44:21 pm
İ really hate your word shortening
There is no word shortening! But there was slang there!
Title: Re: Equipment not being lost
Post by: Cicero on September 01, 2011, 07:44:48 pm
There is no word shortening! But there was slang there!
wtf is bawse something like magnificent ?