cRPG

Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: tankmen on August 20, 2011, 01:58:16 pm

Title: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: tankmen on August 20, 2011, 01:58:16 pm
I dont know the numbers or statistics but I'm sure the c-rpg population is low, easily under 5,000 or even 3,000. I see that new games coming out such as the new Star Wars MMO or Skyrim will attract a good amount of our population, we will see large numbers disappear....

just a thought, maybe some members in your clans have spoken up about one of these or other games coming out and are eager to play them?
I know mine are...
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 20, 2011, 01:59:45 pm
It cant last forever but its not gonna go down any time soon, and you sure aint helping it with threads like these
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: B3RS3RK on August 20, 2011, 02:01:26 pm
Skyrim drops - People play it.After some weeks they are through and return to cRPG.Same with any other game pretty much.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Hydro on August 20, 2011, 02:02:54 pm
Skyrim doesn't even have a multiplayer :lol:. Damn pve nubs!
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: tankmen on August 20, 2011, 02:05:51 pm
It cant last forever but its not gonna go down any time soon, and you sure aint helping it with threads like these
not true i expect these replies

Skyrim drops - People play it.After some weeks they are through and return to cRPG.Same with any other game pretty much.
these make me sleep better, i had no idea wtf skyrim was, a clan mate was telling me, now knowing its a strict single player like dragon age im less worried about it
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on August 20, 2011, 02:16:54 pm
As a Star Wars fan, I have to say the new MMO looks really bad in my opinion, looks like it caters to lots of little kiddies, which is understandable. Skyrim is singleplayer right? cRPG takes the mechanics of Mount and Blade and adds the best MMO elements to it. The skill based system is so much better than anything else I've tried out. When I feel crap and useless I play Champions Online and DC Universe, but they are just easymode standard MMOs. No PvE will ever compare to cRPG, MMO's will never have the same depth of play.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: djavo on August 20, 2011, 02:21:17 pm
If i played wolfenstein ET for years (although it was 10x more fun than crpg) I dont see why crpg would die.
I got bored with brainless fps so now I play brainless medieval fps and spam 2h.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Christo on August 20, 2011, 02:24:06 pm
Hmm.

A statistic of active players would be nice to see.

Until that information, we can only speculate.


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Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: karasu on August 20, 2011, 02:32:09 pm
It doesn't matter what game comes out, I'm yet to find a game/mod that requires such "skill" as the M&M engine requires, which makes players stick around, players who like challenges (like myself) and that are tired of shitty console ports to PC, or fail PC releases like lately, thanks to this braindead gaming generation which buys every crappy game that gets out in the market just because the media says "it's a great game!".

Sigh.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: rustyspoon on August 20, 2011, 02:46:43 pm
By the way, shit might hit the fan if TW releases a Sequel to Warband, and maybe goes the way C-RPG went.
( I'm sure they're planning a sequel, WFAS is nothing compared to Warband. )
Then we'd have a real problem

I read a while ago that they've been working on a sequel. WFAS wasn't even made by TW, it was made by a different company. TW has been spending all their time on the sequel.

Even if interest in CRPG dies down, I'm sure Warband 2 would bring everybody back again.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Barbas on August 20, 2011, 02:47:25 pm
Err.. Star Wars?  Sort of a different target audience isn't it?

Anyway - there are hundreds of games released every year.  There are probably more than 100 active mmos out there now.  (Many of them aren't very good of course, but people have different tastes.) 

cRPG might be threatened by.. I dunno, Mount and Blade 2, if that ever got made.  Though probably we'd just get upgraded to cRPG 2 in that case.  People here are looking for a certain sort of gameplay, and even if many of us may also enjoy some other games, I don't think it likely that any other game could replace what we're getting here.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: marco1391 on August 20, 2011, 03:49:04 pm
Hmm.

A statistic of active players would be nice to see.

Until that information, we can only speculate.


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I think given this previous experience it wouldn't pass a lot of time before someone will start developing a crpg-like mod for this hypothetical warband 2, maybe chadz himself would do it
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: nuffen on August 20, 2011, 03:51:49 pm
chadz gave ut stats some months ago showing about 3000 daily players. If you are right ,that the numbers are closer to 5000, it means c-rpg is growing :D

Also, forum stats:
The day with most people online on the forum so far was:
464 - July 11, 2011, 18:33:43

Total Members: 12472

Members online: 293
average members per day sinse the forum was created: Total Members:177.51

Indicates a growth.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Ylca on August 20, 2011, 03:53:06 pm
BF3 dropping is going to put a lot of hurt as i've heard tons frothing at the mouth. I recall firing up Bad Company 2 for the first time and it being my primary game for months- and BF3 is slated to be even better. Might lose a few FPS junkies on that one, at least for a while.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: BlackMilk on August 20, 2011, 03:56:10 pm
Shooters wont take people away from crpg/warband. Warband is just different from everything else and people will come back to it after a while most likely.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 20, 2011, 03:58:21 pm
I played BF1942 for years after it was considered outdated because of a tournament and that tourny had about 500 regular players.

CRPG has as far bigger population, if it's a slow death, I still predict it will take a couple years for it to happen.

Plus: M&B2 anyone? :wink:
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Ylca on August 20, 2011, 04:04:31 pm
Shooters wont take people away from crpg/warband. Warband is just different from everything else and people will come back to it after a while most likely.

I'm not saying they're the same demographic, i'm saying that there are a sizeable number of people who play warband who fit into the hardcore FPS demographic. If BF3 is as much of a polished product in terms of multiplayer as BC2 was there are going to be a lot of happy preoccupied shooters.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 20, 2011, 04:06:28 pm
I don't expect BF3 to have that long a life though. Unless they have proper mod support (which they've been lacking since 1942), modders are probably going to get fed up with it and give up. They've been petitioning for mod support for a long time now, seeing as BF2 mod support was so poor. And particularly as things are bound to be more complicated now I don't think modders will be as willing. In which case within a month people will get bored of it.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Radament on August 20, 2011, 04:09:25 pm
i'm watching another medieval based videogame in development but i think i won't drop warband for this.
Warband and cRPG in particular are like my videogame drug fix when i come home from work.

Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 20, 2011, 04:14:26 pm
http://www.moddb.com/mods/siege-medieval-warfare

I always wished this had gotten more attention on 1942. Notice the archers 2 finger salute  :lol:

It was good fun for the time that I played it. Unfortunately the community was minuscule. A shame it was never finished either  :(
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kafein on August 20, 2011, 04:17:46 pm
cRPG will die when either chadz or a good part of the dev team leaves.

And I think this will happen much sooner than a player exodus, as cRPG is so freaking addictive.


So I'm pretty confident in the future of this mod. The donkey crew doesn't seem likely to give up now.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Radament on August 20, 2011, 04:18:05 pm
This is the upcoming game (indie) i'm waiting , the sequel of Age of Chivalry (fun game but bad compared *to warband).
http://www.chivalrythegame.com/ (http://www.chivalrythegame.com/)
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 20, 2011, 04:20:07 pm
I remember Age of Chivalry. I always thought it was pretty crap myself. As a very arcadey thing it was alright. But for long term play or more serious play it wasn't suited for it.

Edit: Thought that newer version doesn't look to bad.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Vibe on August 20, 2011, 04:39:04 pm
I have yet to see a game with such a good melee combat system. Even the upcoming games don't seem to have anything close to this.

Warband is NEXT-GEN, yo.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 20, 2011, 04:41:42 pm
Saw something in the off topic section. Looks like the next Mount and Blade folks. Though not set to come till sometime in 2012. But it has single player and multiplayer.

'Players will get the chance to lead their warrior through a rich progression system, gaining upgrades and unlocking new content on their path from filthy peasant to unstoppable armored killing machine.'

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/war-of-the-roses

Trailer:
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/war-of-the-roses/15369

I reckon cRPG is safe for a while though.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Leshma on August 20, 2011, 04:44:26 pm
I think given this previous experience it wouldn't pass a lot of time before someone will start developing a crpg-like mod for this hypothetical warband 2, maybe chadz himself would do it

Hopefully someone else will make something like c-rpg. It would be the best if they make it official mod but I wouldn't mind playing mod made by other mod crew.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Ylca on August 20, 2011, 04:44:53 pm
I don't expect BF3 to have that long a life though. Unless they have proper mod support (which they've been lacking since 1942), modders are probably going to get fed up with it and give up. They've been petitioning for mod support for a long time now, seeing as BF2 mod support was so poor. And particularly as things are bound to be more complicated now I don't think modders will be as willing. In which case within a month people will get bored of it.

BC2 has no mod support and has a huge playerbase years after its release.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 20, 2011, 04:48:12 pm
BC2 has no mod support and has a huge playerbase years after its release.

Amoung the usual 12 year old console loving, modern warfare fan boys?

The only reason I played BF2 was for FH2.

I don't think cRPG has the type of community to be pulled away by such games for long.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Ylca on August 20, 2011, 05:01:39 pm
Amoung the usual 12 year old console loving, modern warfare fan boys?

The only reason I played BF2 was for FH2.

I don't think cRPG has the type of community to be pulled away by such games for long.

Yes, because you don't like a game lauded as one of the most solid multiplayer experiences of all times means everyone else is a ravenous lunatic. Meanwhile you nostalgiasturbate to an ancient game that fell to the wayside multiple years ago.

Yep, dem BC2 fanboys.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Teeth on August 20, 2011, 05:03:41 pm
Warband is my most played game easily. With 600 hours in so far, a lot of this is singeplayer and other mods, but probably 400 or so in cRPG. My second most played online game was BF2, played that for 250 hours. This game has had the most lasting appeal to me, part of that is because of the small playerbase, you know most people. So I wouldn't mind if the playerbase would get smaller, I think the death of cRPG is still far away.

Skyrim will not entertain for more than 100 hours for most and its also not an online game, so I don't think we have much to fear from that.

Battlefield 3, mehh, there have been other high profile games that cRPG survived, some people will dissappear, I think a lot will eventually come back to cRPG. Only Warband 2 might really cut into the cRPG playerbase, I think most cRPG will gladly go play warband 2 and I hope chadz will too.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 20, 2011, 05:04:47 pm
Yes, because you don't like a game lauded as one of the most solid multiplayer experiences of all times means everyone else is a ravenous lunatic. Meanwhile you nostalgiasturbate to an ancient game that fell to the wayside multiple years ago.

Yep, dem BC2 fanboys.

Depends which game you talk about. 1942 had a very large player base up until about 2-3 years ago. Considering that was released in 2002. That's impressive. BF2 still does have a very large player base. And that was released in 2005. BC2 was released in 2010. If it didn't still have a big player base, it would be an appalling game :lol: But yes, I consider BC2 to be like any other of that type of modern warfare game. Certainly compared to the impact and ground breaking gameplay 1942 presented, BC2 is a blip on the gaming radar.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Torp on August 20, 2011, 05:26:55 pm
So what can we make from this?

go recruit some new damned players!
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: ShinySpoons on August 20, 2011, 06:09:51 pm
So tired of warband...but cannot leave because there is no other game like warband...
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: IceManX on August 20, 2011, 08:00:16 pm
Warband is my most played game easily. With 600 hours in so far, a lot of this is singeplayer and other mods, but probably 400 or so in cRPG. My second most played online game was BF2, played that for 250 hours. This game has had the most lasting appeal to me, part of that is because of the small playerbase, you know most people. So I wouldn't mind if the playerbase would get smaller, I think the death of cRPG is still far away.

Skyrim will not entertain for more than 100 hours for most and its also not an online game, so I don't think we have much to fear from that.

Battlefield 3, mehh, there have been other high profile games that cRPG survived, some people will dissappear, I think a lot will eventually come back to cRPG. Only Warband 2 might really cut into the cRPG playerbase, I think most cRPG will gladly go play warband 2 and I hope chadz will too.


This!

Absolutely correct.

I also play other games then crpg. Many SP-Games for example. But after I played it through, the game is not so interesting anymore.
I am waiting also for Skyrim. Or Deus Ex 3 which will be released next week (loved Deus Ex so much, played it around 10 times through - good old year 2000).
But after playing those games I will also play crpg, because those game have an end.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Socrates on August 20, 2011, 08:05:21 pm
Once Skyrim and BF3 and RO2 comes out I will be gone for 3 months minimum. And someone saying Skyrim only 100 hours? They packed 500 hours of gameplay in it. Its older game Oblivion easily passed 100 hours in gameplay.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Teeth on August 20, 2011, 08:23:35 pm
Once Skyrim and BF3 and RO2 comes out I will be gone for 3 months minimum. And someone saying Skyrim only 100 hours? They packed 500 hours of gameplay in it. Its older game Oblivion easily passed 100 hours in gameplay.
I said for how long it was going to entertain most, few will get 500 hours out of it.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on August 20, 2011, 08:31:49 pm
decreasing numbers of players and the following death of the mod have been declared many times before with different explanations (mostly something with upkeep). None of these theories became true and it I don't think the releases of these games will change that.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 20, 2011, 08:52:52 pm
So tired of warband...but cannot leave because there is no other game like warband...

^
This.  It's pretty much repeated ad-nauseum in voip on a semi-nightly basis as well.  So fucking sick of this game, but there's nothing else better currently to go to.  Which is why our voip has been split into many different channels lately I believe.  Some people shooting fucks in APB, some hacking at fucks in AoC's free trial, some people RTS'ing fucks in Europa or some shit and some of us looking for a decent FPS or SP game to play instead.

All it's going to take is one polished game with good melee combat I think, and chivalry + that war of the roses both look and sound intriguing.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Braeden on August 20, 2011, 08:56:33 pm
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square..
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: IG_Saint on August 20, 2011, 09:04:41 pm
chadz killed it.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Lysander on August 20, 2011, 09:05:38 pm
CRPG WILL NEVER DIE!!
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Varric on August 20, 2011, 09:11:33 pm
Nope, dead.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Zoidberg on August 20, 2011, 09:15:03 pm
You people can only play one game at once?
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Lysander on August 20, 2011, 09:19:40 pm
yes, sure.
cant focus on more than one!!
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Xant on August 20, 2011, 09:20:03 pm
Thumbs up if this made you cry.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on August 20, 2011, 10:13:01 pm
CRPG is not dying....

This is not a game primarily played by 'flavor of the month kids' waiting to be decieved into buying the next big 'box sale' for EA...

Unless the server side/development side goes away, you can be sure there will be plenty of adults living out thier dreams of medieval combat and tactics HERE, free of all the emo elves and trolls.

Unless of course Paradox/WB gets it's act together and attaches its awesome combat system to a meaty non-high-fantasy MMO, I see alot of people just fine with staying here and going no-where else.  :)


Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 20, 2011, 10:17:56 pm
You people can only play one game at once?

Pretty much.  You see, as you get older and get responsibilities your available time for gaming decreases substantially.  You can either dabble in a few games, never really getting anywhere in any of them or you can focus on one or two and still remain somewhat competitive.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Cyclopsided on August 21, 2011, 03:52:39 am
If i played wolfenstein ET for years (although it was 10x more fun than crpg) I dont see why crpg would die.
I got bored with brainless fps so now I play brainless medieval fps and spam 2h.
FELLOW WOLFENSTEIN ENEMY TERRITORY PLAYER :O
I still say that was the best game I have ever played, and for years. Well, best FPS by far. Best RTS being Age of Mythology.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Adam_Bomb on August 21, 2011, 03:53:57 am
Pretty much.  You see, as you get older and get responsibilities your available time for gaming decreases substantially.  You can either dabble in a few games, never really getting anywhere in any of them or you can focus on one or two and still remain somewhat competitive.

lol.  Totally agree.   :)
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Spleen on August 21, 2011, 04:10:57 am
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square..

I smell terrorists...
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Vackeno on August 21, 2011, 07:34:29 am
I do not believe that cRPG will die to a player exodus. Many even current players have threatened to quit after QQing at nerfs --- they're still here.

Personally, I've been following Guild Wars 2 before I even knew cRPG existed as a mod in Warband. That game will suck me out of pretty much everything else (real life not excluded :-p).

That aside, cRPG is a unique style of gameplay. A previous post mentioned the 'depth' of the game. In all honesty, I think Warband/cPRG is rather shallow compared to many games, but certainly more deep than competitive FPS games. This brings us into a very niche market, which is unlikely to lose much of its player base.

I also do not think it is realistic to compare an Indie game's MOD to a AAA title. We're not even comparing game to game here... but mod to a triple-A title... Not exactly a level playing field, imo.

cRPG will die when its devs decide to kill it. I don't foresee large player shifts for any likely reason.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Tzar on August 21, 2011, 08:02:22 am
cRPG has no current rival in its genre  :?

/Thread
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LLJK on August 21, 2011, 09:09:41 am
crpg is lying gutted up against the rocks here is it's swan song http://tindeck.com/listen/snvc it is downloadable and im sure you will like it just dandy i know i did this is my offering to you crpg so please eat it
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 21, 2011, 09:15:33 am
cRPG has no current rival in its genre  :?

This is the ONLY reason alot of us haven't moved the fuck on yet.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Lorn on August 21, 2011, 09:15:57 am
This is the ONLY reason alot of us haven't moved the fuck on yet.

Pretty much.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Christo on August 21, 2011, 03:51:16 pm
Yeah.

Warband/cRPG carved a genre of it's own.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kenji on August 21, 2011, 04:10:43 pm
Many players are loyal and dedicated to cRPG, yet I have to admit that I'll be among the list of leaving this game for SW:The Old Republic and Skyrim.

I've recently received the honor to beta test for SWTOR (And that's all I'm going to say due to the NDA I have with BioWare), and by the looks of it, I'm leaving cRPG earlier than I expected.

But like others said, no games/mods out there offer the same simulation/genre like cRPG, so I will return to cRPG eventually.

I've been following Guild Wars 2 before I even knew cRPG existed as a mod in Warband.
And I've been following SW:TOR ever since 2008, the wait is.. was a torture 8-)
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Teeth on August 21, 2011, 05:23:17 pm
My computer is shit so I'm stuck here until I get a decent computer. Which might happen cause I like the looks of Battlefield 3 and Skyrim.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 21, 2011, 05:36:30 pm
cause I like the looks of Battlefield 3 and Skyrim.

Indeed.  I haven't bothered with any of the battlefield series since 2142 was such a letdown, but BF3 looks like a fucking riot.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Captain_Georges on August 21, 2011, 05:42:07 pm
A many a time I stopped playing crpg to play something else, but I always come back to it. That aint gon change for me any time soon
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: woody on August 21, 2011, 05:50:52 pm
I used to buy a game most months, since getting warband and its mods I've only bought Witcher 2 and havnt got round to installing.

It will stop in a year or two but hopefully a few games of different types using the combat system, which is easily the best and most skilful I've seen on a PC, will be available. Lets be honest in 3-5 years the PCs and graphics cards will be almost tv quality and we will view warband graphics the way we now view the original daggerfall.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 21, 2011, 06:38:51 pm
I used to buy a game most months, since getting warband and its mods I've only bought Witcher 2 and havnt got round to installing.
You should, Witcher 2 is a-fucking-mazing.  Easily one of the best cinematic RPG's ever.
Lets be honest in 3-5 years the PCs and graphics cards will be almost tv quality and we will view warband graphics the way we now view the original daggerfall.

PC's and graphics cards are already far far far superior to tv quality in every way.  They have been for a while now.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Joseph on August 21, 2011, 07:40:46 pm
How could cRPG dies ? It's the only medieval fps out there, it's just a matter of time before they come back.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Christo on August 21, 2011, 07:48:12 pm
How could cRPG dies ? It's the only medieval fps out there, it's just a matter of time before they come back.

Die please.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 21, 2011, 07:49:01 pm
How could cRPG dies ? It's the only medieval fps out there, it's just a matter of time before they come back.

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/war-of-the-roses
and
http://www.chivalrythegame.com/

Competition is on the way and they look so much better.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: DrKronic on August 21, 2011, 07:57:11 pm
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/war-of-the-roses
and
http://www.chivalrythegame.com/

Competition is on the way and they look so much better.

you realize paradox is the guys who do m+b right?, also that chivalry doesn't look that great, you can tell the engine is pretty funky

Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 21, 2011, 08:05:45 pm
you realize paradox is the guys who do m+b right?, also that chivalry doesn't look that great, you can tell the engine is pretty funky

Paradox is dumping TW for this game though.  Basically stealing the whole M&B thing and attempting to do it better with a higher budget and better engine.
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Fatshark take what was learned from Lead and Gold and apply it in a medieval setting, using the Bitsquid tech-engine for high quality visuals and performance.
 The driving focus of the game is creating a multiplayer game with the same accessibility as the best competitive shooters currently out there, but in a medieval setting with a primary emphasis on melee combat.
 The focus of the core gameplay is on the Multiplayer experience, but we will have an engaging and immersive story driven single player campaign designed to prepare and train players for the multiplayer experience. The single player campaign will give the players direct rewards to use in the multiplayer battles.

Features
■Recreating Medieval Battles - recreate the feeling of the savage face to face fighting during the Wars of the Roses.
■Huge Persistence System - create your own character and rise through the ranks from lowly serf to a noble knight in the finest armor. Addictive progression system with unlockables, leveling and detailed statistics.
■Team Oriented Game Modes - work together in a team towards common goals
"

Also read the 2nd feature.  Create your own character and blah blah blah.  Death of cRPG right there quite possibly since it IS the cRPG experience.  Just conjecture though.

Well everyone opinion and all that, but I think that Chivalry game looks quite promising and the combat gameplay footage looked intriguing.  Looks like there's no directional blocking BUT it's far prettier and I like the idea of the forced 1st person perspective.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kafein on August 21, 2011, 08:09:49 pm
You people can only play one game at once?

Pretty much this.

cRPG is by far the game I played in the most dedicated manner, yet I still play at least 3 other games in a day (atm Minecraft, Europa universalis III latest version and some ultra-rare (on PS3) japanese RPG named Eternal Sonata).

But when talking to other people, especially MP games fans, most of them are completly mono-maniac. If I had to play only one game during one month for example, I would not play half as much as I do. That's also why I never sold any, I'm too afraid of wanting to play an "old" game again, and that happens quite often :lol:


So at least for me, cRPG will never die, because I never quit definetly (though this mod changes with the patches so it could theoritically become too bad for me to play it).
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 21, 2011, 08:18:08 pm
Pretty much this.

cRPG is by far the game I played in the most dedicated manner, yet I still play at least 3 other games in a day (atm Minecraft, Europa universalis III latest version and some ultra-rare (on PS3) japanese RPG named Eternal Sonata).

But when talking to other people, especially MP games fans, most of them are completly mono-maniac. If I had to play only one game during one month for example, I would not play half as much as I do. That's also why I never sold any, I'm too afraid of wanting to play an "old" game again, and that happens quite often :lol:


So at least for me, cRPG will never die, because I never quit definetly (though this mod changes with the patches so it could theoritically become too bad for me to play it).

Curious.  Do you have a job and family?
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kafein on August 21, 2011, 08:25:54 pm
Curious.  Do you have a job and family?

Okay, 1-0  :lol:
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Teeth on August 21, 2011, 08:36:02 pm
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/war-of-the-roses
and
http://www.chivalrythegame.com/

Competition is on the way and they look so much better.
The combat system of Mount & Blade is very well done, Chivalry's looks like bear shit, come on look at what happens, that doesnt look nearly as intense and skill requiring as Warband's combat system. Better graphics won't make me play 600 hours if the gameplay is crap.

Now War of the Roses on the other hand, concerning features it sounds good. But it all depends if the combat system is interesting and skill based.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Tzar on August 21, 2011, 08:51:41 pm
If no1 did or have tried playing Age of chiverly they missed out touche for them i think i played that mod more then cRPG tbh.

Better combat and balance only downside is there arent the RPG element to it and no grind.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: jemoeder on August 21, 2011, 08:56:14 pm
The server is full again... Start dying please. I think with fire and sword will die before crpg does. I have played around there a bit and only one server decently populated. All them range my old friends blast each other and cant block nothing so you can get surprising k/d ratio's mindlessly spamming them with 2h up close.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: a_bear_irl on August 21, 2011, 08:58:46 pm
chivalry looks awful, and they're not even far enough along with war of the roses to put together an ingame trailer, just some shitty CG dude on a horse riding around, it's probably like a year+ away so why worry about what it's going to do to playerbase now?
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Christo on August 21, 2011, 09:02:07 pm
The server is full again... Start dying please. I think with fire and sword will die before crpg does. I have played around there a bit and only one server decently populated. All them range my old friends blast each other and cant block nothing so you can get surprising k/d ratio's mindlessly spamming them with 2h up close.

Fire and Sword was already dead when it was born.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Mosquito on August 21, 2011, 09:50:23 pm
War of Roses looks like it could be viable alternative if one were to believe the hype
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 21, 2011, 10:40:01 pm
so why worry about what it's going to do to playerbase now?

Just a thread of babble because quite a few of us seem to be sick of this god forsaken game but have nothing else to go play as far as online games.  Lack of options leads to threads like these instead of just saying "Fuck it, I'm done" and leaving.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kalam on August 21, 2011, 11:51:42 pm
War of Roses looks like it could be viable alternative if one were to believe the hype

Psht. I think we've seen that mainstream buyers won't tolerate a Mount & Blade style system, with Darkfall and Mortal Online. I mean, have you tried to introduce your friends to this game?

"Omg it's too hard."
"That's stupid, he shouldn't be able to do that, I quit."
"What! I can't tell where he's going to attack. Fuck this game."
"I'm bad at it, so I don't want to play multiplayer."

And so on and so forth. I doubt they'll include manual blocking of different directions.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 22, 2011, 12:07:04 am
Psht. I think we've seen that mainstream buyers won't tolerate a Mount & Blade style system, with Darkfall and Mortal Online.
The only way this is an issue is if they're fucking moronic and attempt to go for a "mainstream" crowd.  DF and MO tried that and they have to remember that the mainstream crowd are the cancerous lemmings destroying the gaming culture.  As long as it remembers it's going to cater to a niche community and aims it for that community I don't think we'll have any worries.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 22, 2011, 12:43:46 am
I love this game (Warband and cRPG) because its really the only FP/TP MMO ( if you wana call 3k ppl MASS ) RPG medieval game ive played. Looking at War of Roses and Chivalry, I see games that might be able to surpass this. IDK if they will but, time will tell. This was really the first of its kind I know of ( im younger then most of the ppl who play this ) and I love it for that.  If there is a game that is like this, i will try it out and see if I enjoy it more.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: ShinySpoons on August 22, 2011, 04:37:28 am
Psht. I think we've seen that mainstream buyers won't tolerate a Mount & Blade style system, with Darkfall and Mortal Online. I mean, have you tried to introduce your friends to this game?

"Omg it's too hard."
"That's stupid, he shouldn't be able to do that, I quit."
"What! I can't tell where he's going to attack. Fuck this game."
"I'm bad at it, so I don't want to play multiplayer."

And so on and so forth. I doubt they'll include manual blocking of different directions.

^Above reason my friends don't play crpg. They love single player and the mods for it, but don't have the patience to learn multiplayer.

As others have stated I'm expecting war of the roses to be "dumbed down" in terms of melee difficulty. Lack of 2handers would probably remove manual block all together...
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: _JoG_ on August 22, 2011, 05:22:40 am
Lack of 2handers would probably remove manual block all together...
Considering that the one of the most popular weapons of the time in England were the bill and the poleaxe, not even mentioning the longsword, while the shields were more and more out of fashion, I highly doubt that.

I cannot imagine a decent Medieval-ish (i.e. no magic bullshit) combat system without skill based blocking/attacking.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Thucydides on August 22, 2011, 05:36:33 am
this mod is still fun as fuck  910 hours of gameplay later, i don't know what the hell you guys are clamouring about.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 22, 2011, 05:41:35 am
this mod is still fun as fuck  910 hours of gameplay later, i don't know what the hell you guys are clamouring about.

+1
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 22, 2011, 06:26:30 am
this mod is still fun as fuck  910 hours of gameplay later, i don't know what the hell you guys are clamouring about.

Pfft, 910

Get to 2k+ then come back to this thread.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kafein on August 22, 2011, 03:36:57 pm
Psht. I think we've seen that mainstream buyers won't tolerate a Mount & Blade style system, with Darkfall and Mortal Online. I mean, have you tried to introduce your friends to this game?

"Omg it's too hard."
"That's stupid, he shouldn't be able to do that, I quit."
"What! I can't tell where he's going to attack. Fuck this game."
"I'm bad at it, so I don't want to play multiplayer."

And so on and so forth. I doubt they'll include manual blocking of different directions.

Actually, starting it from the very beginning really makes things easier.

I perfectly understand people that start playing now when they say MP is too hard. They have to face people that played this more than a year and went through all the combat style trends. Just imagine you never played piano then you have to reach the same level as someone who played it during one year, in a much shorter time.

PS : 2k hours ? ye nub :P
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Christo on August 22, 2011, 03:39:01 pm
Pfft, 910

Get to 2k+ then come back to this thread.

Blah, hours mean nothing.

I'm here since a year, but Only have.. 835 hours.

Meaning that I play a lot less these days than before, but meh.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Vibe on August 22, 2011, 03:40:32 pm
624 hours and kicking ass
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Eddy on August 22, 2011, 06:13:23 pm
972 hours and i have the game since last xmass  :P
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Duster on August 22, 2011, 06:18:45 pm
3033 hours
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Oberyn on August 22, 2011, 06:19:43 pm
I'm thankfull I didn't get the game through steam as I can only guess at how many hours of my life I've wasted playing this game XD. Prob up there with first Red Orchestra. Definetely racked up 1000+ hours.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Eddy on August 22, 2011, 06:25:46 pm
Quote
3033 hours
:shock:






nerd
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: BlackMilk on August 22, 2011, 06:27:53 pm
3033 hours
what the hell?
about 700 hours.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Turboflex on August 22, 2011, 06:37:22 pm
BF3 will take a bite out of CRPG since it is a FPS game.

Star wars MMORPG will not since it is a gay warcraft clone.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kingtrisp on August 22, 2011, 06:42:27 pm
BF3 dropping is going to put a lot of hurt as i've heard tons frothing at the mouth. I recall firing up Bad Company 2 for the first time and it being my primary game for months- and BF3 is slated to be even better. Might lose a few FPS junkies on that one, at least for a while.

This is a correct statement.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 22, 2011, 08:19:42 pm
1337 hours
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on August 22, 2011, 09:49:39 pm
That is warband hours, not cRPG hours.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Panoply on August 22, 2011, 10:12:49 pm
FELLOW WOLFENSTEIN ENEMY TERRITORY PLAYER :O
I still say that was the best game I have ever played, and for years. Well, best FPS by far. Best RTS being Age of Mythology.

Woo! Unite! Shit, I played that up until maybe one or two years ago. Great fun. Modern FPSs all seem slow to me, compared to jaymod, and I get too impatient. So that was probably the only FPS that I actually got really good at.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: tankmen on August 23, 2011, 12:44:00 am
Just a thread of babble because quite a few of us seem to be sick of this god forsaken game but have nothing else to go play as far as online games.  Lack of options leads to threads like these instead of just saying "Fuck it, I'm done" and leaving.
actually i enjoy this game but i fear theres no new fish out there to recruit and with most old players leaving or join other clans or flat out making new ones its hard to get a decent player base
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 23, 2011, 07:38:30 am
PS : 2k hours ? ye nub :P

Oh sadly my hours played are much higher.  However I feel that it was around 2k hours played that I first started to get that twinge of boredom and disdain.  It's also most likely around the time I stopped defending ranged as a valid playstyle and started to fucking hate it because EVERYONE started bringing a ranged weapon.  Not that I can blame them.  When I first started PxC I specifically stated in the clan thread that I preferred everyone to be some type of ranged (or hybrid ranged) player because it made the most sense from an efficiency standpoint.  With ranged you're always capable of dealing damage without waiting, especially in siege.  What was I talking about again?
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: HarunYahya on August 23, 2011, 08:30:48 am
Well watch some battlefield 3 gameplay videos. It looks more real than CNN Iraq battle footages.
Im sure we'll play BF-3 when it's out.It's a good game that you can use teamwork and tactics so why not ? We even played APB Reloaded why not BF-3 ?  :twisted: -Talking about bashibazouks ofc.-
But sooner or later we'll return to our good old cRPG.Donkey created a new era of drugs by creating this mode it is so fucking addictive and has no alternatives  :lol:
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Oberyn on August 23, 2011, 08:42:12 am
BF3 looks like a really fun arcadey game, but....realistic? Srsly?
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: HarunYahya on August 23, 2011, 08:49:36 am
BF3 looks like a really fun arcadey game, but....realistic? Srsly?
It looks more real than CNN Iraq battle footages.

It looks more real than CNN Iraq battle footages.
It looks more real than CNN Iraq battle footages.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 23, 2011, 08:53:31 am
Only fantasy medieval noobs won't get BF3.


It looks more real than CNN Iraq battle footages.

Lan Hayvan
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: HarunYahya on August 23, 2011, 08:58:27 am
Only fantasy medieval noobs won't get BF3.


Lan Hayvan
Stop trolling pezevenk,
watch this at 1080p you'll understand why i told BF-3 looks more real than real battles  :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UwOrl036_A
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 23, 2011, 09:02:04 am
Stop trolling pezevenk,
watch this at 1080p you'll understand why i told BF-3 looks more real than real battles  :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UwOrl036_A

Give me a graphic card that will run this on Maximal Settings 1920x1080 and i will carpet bomb all kurds mashallah!
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 23, 2011, 09:11:15 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zw8SmsovJc

BF3.  Can't fucking wait.

Give me a graphic card that will run this on Maximal Settings 1920x1080 and i will carpet bomb all kurds mashallah!

Why don't you have a good computer already?  You don't play on dx7 do you?
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 23, 2011, 09:19:34 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zw8SmsovJc

BF3.  Can't fucking wait.

Why don't you have a good computer already?  You don't play on dx7 do you?

..ehm....No u
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 23, 2011, 09:21:50 am
..ehm....No u

omg, you poor thing  :(

Upgrade that shit for the love of god man.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 23, 2011, 09:23:37 am
You seriously think i use dx7? Lol.

And yes i've already ordered new components derp.

Also..YOU SUCK!!! Yeah...mature!
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 23, 2011, 09:47:43 am
You seriously think i use dx7? Lol.

And yes i've already ordered new components derp.

Also..YOU SUCK!!! Yeah...mature!

Good, I'm glad you took my advice.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 23, 2011, 09:54:09 am
Good, I'm glad you took my advice.

-_-
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Gorath on August 23, 2011, 10:11:15 am
-_-

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Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 23, 2011, 10:17:13 am
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Bring in the dawgs!
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on August 23, 2011, 10:48:14 am
I dont know the numbers or statistics but I'm sure the c-rpg population is low, easily under 5,000 or even 3,000. I see that new games coming out such as the new Star Wars MMO or Skyrim will attract a good amount of our population, we will see large numbers disappear....

just a thought, maybe some members in your clans have spoken up about one of these or other games coming out and are eager to play them?
I know mine are...

my clan is going to immigrate to bf3 soon
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: LordBerenger on August 23, 2011, 11:11:07 am
my clan is going to immigrate to bf3 soon

Inshallah gogo BF3
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on August 23, 2011, 11:17:51 am
Inshallah gogo BF3

see you in the battlefield buddy, allah ackbår, gott strafe 60 secs btw
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on August 23, 2011, 12:47:35 pm
So a topic concerning the main reason for these forums.......is an 'off-topic' topic? :lol:
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Overdriven on August 23, 2011, 01:04:47 pm
Whenever I get a new game I play that and then I'll come back to cRPG. I played the Witcher 2 (epic game) got that out of the way and then game back. Dead Island is going to be released in a couple of weeks and I'm sure you'll see one less HA around when that comes  :P As for BF3...not sure whether I'll get it or not.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: traxits on June 27, 2018, 12:11:50 am
oh so these threads aren't just a new thing, they really have been happening forever.

the cave paintings in this thread show our ancestors had the same thoughts we do about our declining population, however it is clear they didn't know how well they had it back then at a time when this civilization was at its peak.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Kadeth on June 27, 2018, 01:07:05 am
ugh, I remember when Skyrim came out and cRPG pop halved for a few weeks. Even Au had good pop back then.  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Rando on June 27, 2018, 05:46:28 am
I really like Fluffy_Muffin countering the doomsaying with the "Permanently Banned" affix under his name
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Torben on June 27, 2018, 07:42:13 am
ye always wondered for what he was banned,  he was quite a noticeable guy
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Lord_Carlos on June 27, 2018, 11:14:45 am
Must Play some c-rpg on weekend
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2018, 12:25:01 pm
ye always wondered for what he was banned,  he was quite a noticeable guy

Quote
Hey Prpavi i got an idea, lets go out with a bang from the forums also.  :lol:

Im gonna support my Greek friend who got banned recently for exposing screenshots of strat abuse by banning myself out  :D

Incomming NSFW content - Threads and PMs to the devs

Given his last post it's not much of a mystery.
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Torben on June 27, 2018, 01:50:01 pm
haha
Title: Re: death of c-rpg?(maybe a slow death)
Post by: Casul on June 27, 2018, 03:04:02 pm
c-rpg population is low


easily under 5,000 or even 3,000.


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