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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kocik_4th on January 20, 2011, 06:22:52 pm

Title: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Kocik_4th on January 20, 2011, 06:22:52 pm
People must use standard equipment to save money.

There's no different between people who plays since years or who plays since days.

Yes, it's native. Not crpg
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: UrLukur on January 20, 2011, 06:31:28 pm
People must use standard equipment to save money.

There's no different between people who plays since years or who plays since days.

Yes, it's native. Not crpg

Not really, people can use many outfits. Some to save gold, some to get protection against ranged, some for lulz.

I am able to wear my 45k equipment very often.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Kocik_4th on January 20, 2011, 06:35:49 pm
Someone whos playing since 5-6 months, he must be different from who plays since a few weeks. 
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Kaliffen on January 20, 2011, 06:36:37 pm
Have you even played native? The equipment set is totally different.

CRPG has much wider range in terms equipment and stat permutations that make sense. It is a totally different experience entirely.

Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Memento_Mori on January 20, 2011, 06:46:16 pm
People must use standard equipment to save money.

There's no different between people who plays since years or who plays since days.

Yes, it's native. Not crpg


If the multiplier is up you will see me in full samurai armor, Katana, Nodachi, Bamboo spear, Wakizashi , well over 50k worth of equipment.
If the multiplier is down and we are losing hard you will see me in pilgrim disguise, bamboo spear, and katana.

If I'm just playing not caring about my cash I'll be in my normal lamellar with katana + bamboo spear

How is this like native at all, I must be playing the crap Native servers the ones without samurai or ninja or pirates or farmers or 1337 plated knights or a naked guy with 4 ladders trying to reach heaven.... etc, etc.

I guess I just somehow failed to see your point.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Duster on January 20, 2011, 06:46:51 pm
Someone whos playing since 5-6 months, he must be different from who plays since a few weeks.

That's where chadz disagrees with you, and it's his mod.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: UrLukur on January 20, 2011, 06:47:14 pm
Someone whos playing since 5-6 months, he must be different from who plays since a few weeks.

I play this character no longer than 20 days.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Cyclopsided on January 20, 2011, 08:27:46 pm
Standard equipment so it is native? Are you kidding me?

If i were to agree with you on gear, which I don't, this argument would arise:
YOU GET TO CUSTOMIZE YOUR ENTIRE BUILD AND NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME STATS, YOU PLAY WITH YOUR PRO AND CONS TO FIT YOUR PLAY STYLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: RandomDude on January 20, 2011, 09:09:04 pm
People must use standard equipment to save money.

There's no different between people who plays since years or who plays since days.

Yes, it's native. Not crpg

i think the point is exactly this - they want a crpg where the amount of time you put in doesnt give you  significant advantage over a crpg newb

a demi god of native could come to crpg and own us all  :shock:

like a previous poster said - its more about customization of character than gear but with the pre-2.0 version most people would be in gothic/black armour riding some mega beast in a year or so
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Xant on January 20, 2011, 10:16:36 pm
Someone whos playing since 5-6 months, he must be different from who plays since a few weeks.

I've played cRPG 5 days and I can run around in 40k++ equipment for a looong time even with x1 multiplier.

And there already is a difference between the new players and old players.

1) The oldies have moar cash. Means losing money due to upkeep is a non-issue.
2) Heirlooming. They can have better armors and weapons.

Also: Why must/should there be a bigger difference?
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: CtrlAltDe1337 on January 20, 2011, 10:24:04 pm
The game is less about grinding? Oh noes noobs who grind 7 hrs a day don't get a major advantage!?!?!?  What is this virtual world coming to????  Oh and what does this word "skill" mean?  I've never heard it before.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Braeden on January 20, 2011, 10:24:43 pm
This is totally not native.  I enjoy it way too much.

Is it slightly more like Native? Yes, the patch moved us back towards native on the cosmic scale.  But not enough to be significant, no.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Raskolnikov on January 20, 2011, 10:44:29 pm
No. In native, you have very few options to customize your character. In cRPG you have lots - more than ever in fact.  And, now, after the patch, more of the equipment is actually being used! Before the patch, once you reached a certain level, say level 25 - which doesn't take very long - you ONLY used high end weapons and armour from then on. Most of the equipment was more or less relegated to 'peasant gear'. Now that you have to consider the upkeep of your weapons and armour, it means sacrifices have to be made, and low and mid level gear is actually utilised.

The new patch is truly wonderful. It has worked out far better than I imagined!
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Kocik_4th on January 20, 2011, 10:49:36 pm
Guys, be sure i dont want to play with black armors, spamberge etc.

Point is i dont want to think how much cost i'll pay every rounds. I dont feel good with this.

Is it playable now? Of course. But its annoying me some naked people kiling me with a spam weapon. If I'm paying for upkeep, everybody must pay like me. People dont wear armors and sometimes killing me with last hit or spam. Am i the only one whos annoying with them? I dont think so.


What about minimum equip by level and stat points? like some native servers. And no naked people.


And RandomDude maybe you can remember my character stats and items and think how i feel with to be killed by a naked or peasant armored spammer.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: AgentQ on January 20, 2011, 10:49:47 pm
 :cry: after the horse nerf and price increase.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Ashrik on January 20, 2011, 11:00:22 pm
Why shouldn't a naked peasant/spammer kill you if they deplete your hitpoints to 0?

Because it sounds like the biggest thing the patched nerfed was your fweelings. My suggestion is to enjoy the game more, instead of the false feelings of superiority gained from having spent more money/time.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Michael on January 20, 2011, 11:01:48 pm
Kocik I think you make the same mistake a lot of (old) people do.

Like, life was hard and unfair to me, people mistreated me, so lets make sure that everyone else suffers the same way I did.

Why?

I always hated grind. I hated it so much. I worked so hard, then char reset. I worked so hard, my computer died.

What is this? I mean its supposed to be something you do for fun in your free time, not work.

In real life you have to work for so many things. Job in the first place, but also relationsships.

This is a videogame.

If I had to say anything, there was only one level for everyone. You would start and have a certain amount of attribute and skill points to spend. Thats it.

We still have a lot (in my opinion too much) grind in the game.


(There are no demi gods in native. Native is dead since a long long time.)
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Xant on January 20, 2011, 11:02:46 pm
Is it playable now? Of course. But its annoying me some naked people kiling me with a spam weapon. If I'm paying for upkeep, everybody must pay like me. People dont wear armors and sometimes killing me with last hit or spam. Am i the only one whos annoying with them? I dont think so.

And RandomDude maybe you can remember my character stats and items and think how i feel with to be killed by a naked or peasant armored spammer.

So you're whining about peasants/naked people killing you? What?
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Tai Feng on January 20, 2011, 11:11:33 pm
There's no different between people who plays since years or who plays since days.

Oh I'm sorry, you are not able to compensate for your lack of gray cells?

Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Garris on January 20, 2011, 11:20:10 pm
Yes CRPG is more like native now, and thats a good thing.  Everyone will tell you in this thread why it's better, heres my two biggest reasons:

1) In native your playing against what? twenty guys?  Doesnt compare to the hundreds playing crpg today, and I swear the population seems to be growing in NA.

2) You could be a real stud in native but your battles dont mean squat.  Without the persistent stats and inventory you might as well be playing single player.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: RandomDude on January 20, 2011, 11:33:53 pm
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that's true but you are str heavy right? so most people will be faster than u and many will be way faster

i used to ignore peasants mostly as they were usually low lvl but now u just have to take the perspective that everyone is a risk

kill them all

no mercy
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Nemeth on January 21, 2011, 12:03:31 am
2) You could be a real stud in native but your battles dont mean squat.  Without the persistent stats and inventory you might as well be playing single player.

Many games are popular just because of that, to name the most famous one - DotA. So no, you could be a real stud in native and it would mean squat.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: v/onMega on January 21, 2011, 10:11:35 am
60 k + equipment whenever, whereever I want it. Spend like 70 k gold after the patch, didn t get poorer at all.
Earning gold is np, just play right.

And believe me:
Everybody who grinded long enuff before the patch now has shitloads of gold / a nicely stacked up equip screen. ;-)

Want ur heirlooms back? Grind for them but pls pls, stop those silly whine threads, rather deinstall coz shit wont change from these threads.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Cyclopsided on January 21, 2011, 10:42:58 am
No -- I definitely did not see that.
I did not see that. What is this world coming to?

A guy just complained about naked people killing him. People without armor on. People he would one hit.


Nope.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Siiem on January 21, 2011, 10:45:51 am
Actually because of this patch I switch equipment more often, since I gain more money I can afford a large wardrobe. And this means I use different armours, helmets and gloves quite often. I think atm this patch provides more different looks. However when clans play together they tend to choose similar equipment.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: MrExxc on January 21, 2011, 11:00:54 am
In the first place, I was like: "naaaaaah, this patch sucks", I can't afford my herladic +19k armor every round, that is crappy. But then I started playing with some lower stuff, and I really started to enjoy the fact that you have to choose your equipment, and it's very cool to get the +19k out of the wardrobe. Play a bit more, maybe just like me you'll never want cRPG to change anymore. :)
Oh, and if a naked man kills you, well maybe you were being a bit to cocky and thought: "Oh nakedman, well he's dead, that makes sense right?". But like Randomdude said, everyone is a threat.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on January 21, 2011, 11:48:41 am
I play with a 52 AR-Armor, 47 AR-Helmet, 30 AR-Boots, and a long hafted Blade or long hafted spiked Mace plus Pike.
So my Equip is relatively High-End. And even so I still make Money all the time. Not as much as naked people but I still have a positive income.
So whining about how you cant play Spamberge-Tincan all the time is just not justified...

Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: IceManX on January 21, 2011, 12:40:08 pm
The Topic Opener isnt really false.

What he mentioned:
If you loose in native, u wear cheap gear and only sometimes have gold for better equipment.
In crpg its like the same, sure there are more items, but you are not really able to wear to best everytime - like in native.

I got over 100k gold atm. Because I am wearing Armor/Weapons around 5-8k depends if I use a shield.
I am trying to stay behind and get some easy kills, or I am just dying - I dont care.

If my team looses then I loose - I dont care and I dont give my best then (sorry, for what? Losing team means: hoping to get switched or more luck/do better next map)
If my team wins and the multiplicator is x3 or more I wear my best gear - around 80k and I give my best to help my team and to help winning!

The problem is more, if a team loses to often, nobody really cares and trys to change something - because of the upkeep!
Why wearing better armor with x1 and lose many gold and team will not win because everybody has a wodden dagger wearing?!

If there were no upkeep I swear teambalance would be much more effective. And many players would give their best even if they lost the last 2 rounds.
Atm nobody cares...

The real problem is the upkeep, I like the new gold/round system and other things what changed in the patch.
But this upkeep is terrible. Would have been better to make upkeep only for horses and not for weapons/armor.
Upkeep should have been for horses like fodder etc.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Nemeth on January 21, 2011, 03:00:26 pm
I didn't play cRPG before the huge patch where upkeep was introduced, but wasn't the game full of the same looking tincans on plated chargers, that ran through everything? From what I understood, upkeep was the single most important change in the whole patch. Why would you take it away? Right now, I have to think about what I'll wear, there is no gold hunting only to get the best gear available and then steamrolling peasants. I for one enjoy the diversity of looks on the battlefield.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Kocik_4th on January 21, 2011, 03:52:02 pm
Some people only writing for insult. This is not a whine thread and i dont have a good English maybe you can understand me wrong cuz of this. But It's ok. Only thing is i say, old version was perfect and this version is playable only. Too many people dont agree with me but too many agree.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Penchik on January 21, 2011, 04:38:13 pm
I've started a new char yesterday. Now I use 30k equipment with 54 body armor.
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Yes, it's native. Not crpg
So its bullshit.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 21, 2011, 05:52:03 pm
Why shouldn't a naked peasant/spammer kill you if they deplete your hitpoints to 0?

Because it sounds like the biggest thing the patched nerfed was your fweelings. My suggestion is to enjoy the game more, instead of the false feelings of superiority gained from having spent more money/time.

Yeah. Us peasants have every right to defend our farms.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 21, 2011, 06:12:51 pm
I play almost every day, and will play. Upkeep or not. But the old cRPG used to be better.
Don't want to bother explaining why, I already did it before, many times.
Best way to put it in short ( taken from a thread title of a post on the taleworlds forum ):

cRPG has lost its soul

cRPG is like Christina Ricci and Macaulay Culkin, they were cute and promising as kids, but they are just ok/meah now. Whatever used to be special about them - it's gone.

EDIT: Oh.. That last part sounds wrong when i read it now... ha-ha, well some will understand it as it was intended, some will not.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: joshko on January 21, 2011, 06:30:33 pm
Things were much more uniform prepatch. Maybe everyone is wearing the same teir equipment, but how many options are there with in those peramiters?
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Xant on January 21, 2011, 06:37:45 pm
cRPG has lost its soul


I hate to be the first one to break it to you, but "souls" do not exist and even if they did, a program would be unlikely to have one. Therefore, my friend, saying stupid shit like "omg its soul iz gone" doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Gorath on January 21, 2011, 06:46:46 pm
I hate to be the first one to break it to you, but "souls" do not exist

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Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 21, 2011, 06:58:17 pm
I hate to be the first one to break it to you, but "souls" do not exist and even if they did, a program would be unlikely to have one. Therefore, my friend, saying stupid shit like "omg its soul iz gone" doesn't mean anything.

You can call it whatever you like.
Implying me not understanding the concept or definition of "soul" is insulting, as i am clearly an adult. If you do not understand what i mean - that makes you stupid. If you understand what i mean, disagree, and choose to leave an unrelated and insulting comment - that makes you a cu... hmm... an unpleasant person.
Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Xant on January 21, 2011, 07:12:57 pm
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Title: Re: Standard equipment. So it's native.
Post by: Penchik on January 21, 2011, 07:56:16 pm
Maybe for people who can not play the whole day it is a bit harder, but you are right.
I just was lucky with x5 multiplier for 10 or more rounds. The native thing appeared after patch is bigger importance of skill and not of armor or level. Since noob tincans will die and lose their high gear.