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Title: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 07:45:29 pm
I'd like to inform devs about some bug abuses we encountered

1 Attacking from inside of a fief

Goal : keeping the tickets in the area without getting teleported to the other side of the map

2 Locking up armies and now showing up in the battle

Goal : delaying the attacking army without getting any sort of punishment

3 The latest one : Sending crappy equipment to the enemy

Goal : to keep their item window crowded, preventing the attackers (or defenders) from using their own equipment.


Full list of items we received before the battle

(click to show/hide)

Original post in the bug report section.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,12620.msg178051.html#msg178051
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliences expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 07:47:39 pm
Woah.....  :|
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliences expoliting
Post by: Gingerpussy on August 05, 2011, 07:49:18 pm
I urge a ban on BRD or TkoV or whoever did this. It is a deliberate attempt on hacking/abuse of the strategus system.

If it is BRD yet again trying to abuse strategus system then i suggest the hole clan being removed from strategus for at least a month, maybe even a ban on Crpg.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gnjus on August 05, 2011, 07:51:23 pm
LoL, i can't believe what I'm reading, they are pathetic. I sure as hell hope someone splits NA from EU, we have all kind of morons here but these guys exceed them all.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 07:51:27 pm
Well I do remember Kesh(or being a part of the plan, not the leader dont remember) banning enemy team in old strategus battles once, atleast something similar... nothing weird to see him exploit bugs/cheat again, I wouldnt mind another ban on that no-lifing asshole.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Beans on August 05, 2011, 07:52:39 pm
hahahah fuck the haters that shit item dump is hilarious
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BADPLAYERold on August 05, 2011, 07:52:55 pm
I love BRD.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Magikarp on August 05, 2011, 07:53:39 pm
And the crap continues, and not surprisingly, it's mainly NA that did these things.

Seperate the damned strategus for magikarp's sake, I don't wana deal with these exploiting/hacking goons anymore.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Keshian on August 05, 2011, 07:54:15 pm
I love BRD.

BIRD CLAN
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Magikarp on August 05, 2011, 07:55:29 pm
BIRD CLAN
That sounds familiar, it's the exact same message left by the hackers on our roster.

Either someone is trying to frame you or BRD is behind the hackings.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Inequity on August 05, 2011, 07:59:08 pm
ahahaha that item dump owns and sounds like a sound strategy.  Congrats BRD.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 07:59:40 pm
That sounds familiar, it's the exact same message left by the hackers on our roster.

Either someone is trying to frame you or BRD is behind the hackings.

I would believe if someone is trying to frame them, but thats not the first time we experience this in BRD battles. Plus the timing of transfer is way to precise for someone from the outside.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 08:04:30 pm

Regardless, banning an entire clan seems too much (and a bit of a double standard since the Mercs don't claim responsibility of the actions of their members), and a ban on the specific exploiters seems much more reasonable, if this indeed is all true.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 05, 2011, 08:06:08 pm
Wow. Any measly little hope I had of a fair fight has just now been extinguished. The timeslots were irritating to cope with but this genuinely makes it impossible to fight.  This is the lowest Ive seen anyone stoop in the crpg community.

Congrats. I hope you get banned.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 08:07:20 pm
  • This does need to be fixed, massive bug.
  • This can be accidental due to the servers going offline for a bit and battles being pushed forward in weird time zones (More then a couple of clans had weird battles in messed up times due to this). This can also be pretty accidental, and regardless I don't see the problem. Even if this is on purpose, they are wasting tickets which is a resource and not free.
  • Third point is absolutely hilarious trolling, though yes this should be looked into. Maybe a code where once a battle has been announced, you can not transfer items unless the army also belongs to your same faction?

Regardless, banning an entire clan seems too much (and a bit of a double standard since the Mercs don't claim responsibility of the actions of their members), and a ban on the specific exploiters seems much more reasonable, if this indeed is all true.

Banning is not my idea, I don't even know what is the punishment for that. But the transferring account and all of the characters linked to it needs to get some sort of punishment. There are Merc players who have nothing to do with our diplomacy, tactics, enemies etc. I'm sure there are many BRD and TKOV players who have nothing to do with these things. They simply cannot be blamed because of an asshole in their clan.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Digglez on August 05, 2011, 08:16:56 pm
Goal : to keep their item window crowded, preventing the attackers (or defenders) from using their own equipment.

Ctrl-F is your friend. find whatever you are looking for
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 08:20:12 pm
Ctrl-F is your friend. find whatever you are looking for

Unfortunately this is impossible in the in-game strat battles, and if there is a flood of items then some other items simply do not show up.

This can be a very serious issue in battles for strat.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: kinngrimm on August 05, 2011, 08:23:28 pm
you know, i kept out of this whole flame/rage/insult stuff so far here in the forum. Now i kind of like to spit someone in the face.

Not only that we get attacked basicly only between 5am and 8 am in all battles started by FCC and their friends,
which you can call bad sports men ship in the least,
but they filled rosters over and over again(3 times at least) to then just have some guys there wasting our time and keeping us awake for hours.

Now this crap? Is it just a desperate move because they see no future or is it because of arguing all do it then we can do it or are they so just some nerds not willing to play by the book?
You can argue about all this what you want, in my eyes you loose over and over again in terms of reputation and the angle tongue of you diplomat Matey will not remove these dark spots on your Karma.

so feel free to give me hell because i spoke out what i think.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kalp on August 05, 2011, 08:23:56 pm
I don't see reasons for punishment. It's only beta.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Ronin_don_Mazhan on August 05, 2011, 08:30:12 pm
Wouldn't adding an accept/decline option for receiving transfers fix the mass transfer issue?

If your enemy attempts to transfer you a bunch of crap then just decline it.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 08:31:05 pm
I don't see reasons for punishment. It's only beta.

I dont give a fuck if its beta, honestly.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,607.0.html
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Digglez on August 05, 2011, 08:31:22 pm
Unfortunately this is impossible in the in-game strat battles, and if there is a flood of items then some other items simply do not show up.

This can be a very serious issue in battles for strat.

oh I thought commanders had to 'equip' gear before the fight in order for it to be useable in the battle
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Karmazyn on August 05, 2011, 08:32:20 pm
LoL, BRD let me give you these presents for your nice items idea :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3SfNANtig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCSG19g8388
 
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BaleOhay on August 05, 2011, 08:35:52 pm
I did not send the equipment but have to admit that is pretty funny. Can we trade mark the name? Equipment Bomb maybe.. The peasants of the land are just trying to help supply your army with the best they have available sir to try and curry favor!!! This is beta strat the whole point is to find stuff like this. How can you talk about banning when we are doing exactly what a beta test is.. find and demonstrait the bugs so they get ironed out when the final product ships.

The 1st one see beta testing.. If Chad does not want it done he will write code to fix it.

The 2nd is just good strategy. Happened in battle forever friend. Use smaller force to delay another reinforcing army so you have better odds against your real objective. I do not see where this one is an issue.

ohay
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 08:39:40 pm

The 2nd is just good strategy. Happened in battle forever friend. Use smaller force to delay another reinforcing army so you have better odds against your real objective. I do not see where this one is an issue.


You dont get it. Sure its a mighty annoying tactic, effective too and I dont have a problem with it, but imagine hiring 60 people, showing up on battle and NO ONE on the other side to fight you? Add 5-8 in the morning to it and the fact that they dont get teleported away and keep their stuff , fucksakes thats just fucking retarded.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gingerpussy on August 05, 2011, 08:40:08 pm
well if any of you "new" guys (read noobs) this was a banable offence in OLD strategus. It was used before and is nothing new.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kalp on August 05, 2011, 08:41:04 pm
I dont give a fuck if its beta, honestly.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,607.0.html
You take this too serious. You find three things which shiuld be fixed before new Strategus. It's obvious. And nothing more.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 08:43:29 pm
You take this too serious. You find three things which shiuld be fixed before new Strategus. It's obvious. And nothing more.

Your clanmate Erasmas took it too seriously too back then? I see what you did there, aslong the bug/exploit doesnt affect your clan, its all k, no probs, why ban?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kalp on August 05, 2011, 08:48:44 pm
In those days I was not in Grey Order so I can't judge this accident. And it was normal Strategus, not beta (or not?).

Anyway this is a beta and we should find all bugs which can be exploited.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 08:49:22 pm
I don't see reasons for punishment. It's only beta.

YES IT'S THEIR LIVES!!! U DONT MESS WITH DAT!

Also Mercs sucks Professor Oak hot dog.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Keshian on August 05, 2011, 08:49:34 pm
Unfortunately this is impossible in the in-game strat battles, and if there is a flood of items then some other items simply do not show up.

This can be a very serious issue in battles for strat.

Actually no that was fixed in one of the patches a while back.  Just try it on battle server mode - the icons just get tinier and tinier but all your items display.  Yeh, if it made someone's items disappear that would be glitching, this - well this is just plain funny.  I am super sereal you guys super sereal - manbearpig is bad and glitchy.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BaleOhay on August 05, 2011, 08:50:02 pm
You dont get it. Sure its a mighty annoying tactic, effective too and I dont have a problem with it, but imagine hiring 60 people, showing up on battle and NO ONE on the other side to fight you? Add 5-8 in the morning to it and the fact that they dont get teleported away and keep their stuff , fucksakes thats just fucking retarded.

I understand that time can be annoying. But the time is not being done to you.. It is prime time for us. I have a window to play 10pm-1am eastern. Which unfortunately for you falls at shit luck time. Now putting a battle in my time slot is not me being an ass.. Its me playing normally. You can not expect us to attack you at 3pm eastern time when our people are working just so you can get max defense.

That sword cuts both ways. I have been up at 3-5 am a few times as well to join in on the battles. Honestly we should both nod and smile at eachother and shake hands and say screw it. War over lets fight people in our own ping/time slots. Since that does not appear to be on the menu, complaining about times is not worth the energy.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 08:52:52 pm
I understand that time can be annoying. But the time is not being done to you.. It is prime time for us. I have a window to play 10pm-1am eastern. Which unfortunately for you falls at shit luck time. Now putting a battle in my time slot is not me being an ass.. Its me playing normally. You can not expect us to attack you at 3pm eastern time when our people are working just so you can get max defense.

That sword cuts both ways. I have been up at 3-5 am a few times as well to join in on the battles. Honestly we should both nod and smile at eachother and shake hands and say screw it. War over lets fight people in our own ping/time slots. Since that does not appear to be on the menu, complaining about times is not worth the energy.

You simply ignored most of what I wrote, yes the timeslots are a bitch, but you dont write ONE sentence that has anything to do with not showing up on your battles and abusing the bug that lets you get away with it with the whole army.

In those days I was not in Grey Order so I can't judge this accident. And it was normal Strategus, not beta (or not?).

Anyway this is a beta and we should find all bugs which can be exploited.

No, it was beta and people WERE punished for bullshit like this, atleast the extreme cases.

@ Yeah Berenger youre right, only thing that gets on my nerves slightly is BRD abusing every bug they can find and most of the NA community cheering for them like its the best thing they did, I dont mind the item balacing and that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 08:56:26 pm
In the words of the man on your avatar.


''STOP WHINING!''
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: SPQR on August 05, 2011, 09:02:45 pm
Sounds to me like BRD is just doing a good job at beta testing.

If doing any of those things is ban-worthy then you better ban everyone whos been using the spawn mechanics to their advantage too. Of course, then there would be no one left in strategus.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BaleOhay on August 05, 2011, 09:03:51 pm
You simply ignored most of what I wrote, yes the timeslots are a bitch, but you dont write ONE sentence that has anything to do with not showing up on your battles and abusing the bug that lets you get away with it with the whole army.

No, it was beta and people WERE punished for bullshit like this, atleast the extreme cases.

@ Yeah Berenger youre right, only thing that gets on my nerves slightly is BRD abusing every bug they can find and the whole NA community cheering for them like its the best thing they did, I dont mind the item balacing and that kind of stuff.

I will admit the not fighting battles is pretty shitty if you can at least admit the equipment bomb is super funny.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Shpongled on August 05, 2011, 09:04:20 pm
In the words of the man on your avatar.


''STOP WHINING!''

Keep demonstrating the maturity level of the average NA player.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Varyag on August 05, 2011, 09:04:23 pm
So, BRD - backstabbers, liers, exploiters, abusers, hackers, what next? I hope your clan will be removed from strategus, so other players can finally enjoy the game.
And oh yeah, you guys do understand that any1 can do this equip bomb to you too? But we don't do this shit. Its for retards only.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 09:05:05 pm
POKEMON FRIENDS AND ALLIES. THOSE FILTHY MERCS ARE GIVING ME - Points!

HELP ME! I need Potion + me!
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 09:06:04 pm
@ Yeah Berenger youre right, only thing that gets on my nerves slightly is BRD abusing every bug they can find and the whole NA community cheering for them like its the best thing they did, I dont mind the item balacing and that kind of stuff.

Why do so many mercs appear to have the impression that BRD has the backing of the whole NA community? Add yet another guy to the list, sheesh.

BRD, I had no idea that you guys were all this time so super popular! You are so cool, you are so great.
So, BRD - backstabbers, liers, exploiters, hackers, what next? I hope your clan will be removed from strategus, so other players can finally enjoy the game.
Right, punish an entire clan for the actions of a few, this makes total sense.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: MrShine on August 05, 2011, 09:07:54 pm
So, BRD - backstabbers, liers, exploiters, abusers, hackers, what next?

I heard they eat babies
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Shpongled on August 05, 2011, 09:09:11 pm
Right, punish an entire clan for the actions of a few, this makes total sense.

LOL.

'War on Terror' anybody?

'War on Islam'?

rofl.

thats priceless.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 09:09:33 pm
Why do so many mercs appear to have the impression that BRD has the backing of the whole NA community? Add yet another guy to the list, sheesh.

TEARS ...when did i turn American?

NO I HAVENT MARRIED TO U HAVE I?

NAOOOOWWW Pwease divorce.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 09:10:00 pm
Why do so many mercs appear to have the impression that BRD has the backing of the whole NA community? Add yet another guy to the list, sheesh.

BRD, I had no idea that you guys were all this time so super popular! You are so cool, you are so great.Right, punish an entire clan for the actions of a few, this makes total sense.

Sorry if I insulted you with that ToD, I apologize but im having a hard time finding NA people that are against BRD exploiting bugs, atleast barely anyone says so, most of them are all like yippi kay yay merc motherfuckers eat those exploits .
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: bosco on August 05, 2011, 09:10:23 pm
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Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 09:11:55 pm
LOL.

'War on Terror' anybody?

'War on Islam'?

rofl.

thats priceless.

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Awww shiet. Now it's on BITCH!!! :mad:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dunecat on August 05, 2011, 09:13:44 pm
Nice derailing.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gnjus on August 05, 2011, 09:13:57 pm
Sounds to me like BRD is just doing a good job at beta testing.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Shpongled on August 05, 2011, 09:16:28 pm
I have no problem with Americans.

I have a problem with people who break the rules and then try to claim that they didn't.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gingerpussy on August 05, 2011, 09:18:12 pm
Most likely candidate to have done this is: Commander_Zorkly_TKoV

He is in my transfer range at the time.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 09:20:03 pm
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All America hate begone!



Also BRD are no hackers. They're Beta testers. Enough of that discussion
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 05, 2011, 09:20:20 pm
Wait, how is someone going to talk about maturity or intelligence and then stereotype a whole continent?

Ironic much?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Abay_ on August 05, 2011, 09:21:21 pm
CRY NOCTI CRY
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 09:23:14 pm
Wait, how is someone going to talk about maturity or intelligence and then stereotype a whole continent?

Ironic much?

And people wonder why they have a hard time finding a member of the NA community who gives a fuck  :rolleyes:

Strange how OtlL or Chaos or Blackrose or TS or ATS or Hospitaller yadda yadda yadda etc don't really comment with much support or condolences much on these threads and are instead concerned with their own affairs.

*shrugs*

My favorite part are the EU folks who are always quick to say "American this" or "American that" because Canada is not NA, right? Nothing but igloos and beaver hunters and lumber jacks there! Small itsy bitsy country amirit?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Flawless on August 05, 2011, 09:26:03 pm
Lol. A merc rage thread. Just post the problems in the official BUG thread chadz made and stop this flameing.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Ujin on August 05, 2011, 09:26:39 pm
Just read the first post. Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Zaharist on August 05, 2011, 09:29:09 pm
They learned DRZ snicky tactics from strat 1 very well! %)
All these bugs found and first exploited by DRZ during the first Strat. Please notice. There is no evil except DRZ. Remember
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 09:29:13 pm
What people don't get it is I'm not trolling here. I'm contacting developers and searching a solution for bug abusing in the game. You can troll as much as you want, I don't care. Its just ironic that people who were talking about honour yesterday are the people who are supporting cheating in this game today. Not that I care about that honour crap that much, but if a community start to abuse the glitches and actually start to defend this sort of behaviour I'm not sure how long this community can support itself.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: MarkAnthony on August 05, 2011, 09:30:39 pm
Oh Jesus, this guy makes me mad  :lol:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Caesar on August 05, 2011, 09:33:01 pm
Oh Jesus, this guy makes me mad  :lol:

Same and funny  :D  hehe
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 09:34:58 pm
What people don't get it is I'm not trolling here. I'm contacting developers and searching a solution for bug abusing in the game. You can troll as much as you want, I don't care. Its just ironic that people who were talking about honour yesterday are the people who are supporting cheating in this game today. Not that I care about that honour crap that much, but if a community start to abuse the glitches and actually start to defend this sort of behaviour I'm not sure how long this community can support itself.

What "we" don't get is, why is it when some clan pisses in your pool and is from NA, why do the mercs always start a bitch post and then a half dozen mercs in it stereotype the entire NA community? You just did so yourself, the people who were talking about "Honor" were Acre and Abay... Neither of which "cheated" for the purposes of this thread.

Maybe just as you are tired of people "cheating/antagonizing" your clan, we are tired of always reading a half dozen mercs that say "DAMN NA COMMUNTIY WHY U ALL HATE US?!" Thanks for the stereotype of an entire continent and several countries, we really appreciate it.

Next time, figure out who your target of your bitch thread is and stick with them and stop posting shit like it is the whole damned NA community.

Yeah, damn straight I am tired of hearing people hack in this game and wish it would stop, but I am also tired of the mercs having so many idiots in the clan that can not tell the difference between ONE ALLIANCE and THE REST OF THE NA COMMUNITY and does not know the difference between an American and a Canadian.

Fine, I get it, it is not the Merc clan acting like tards, it is just a few of the members, so to those members I say this: Bloo Bloo Bloo! Grow up.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LanceBreaker on August 05, 2011, 09:35:49 pm
Same, and funny  :D  hehe
Dont troll here, he seems serious  :P
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Caesar on August 05, 2011, 09:37:52 pm
Dont troll here, he seems serious  :P

ok ok, go on noctivagant.forum is yours  :P
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 09:39:26 pm
Dont troll here, he seems serious  :P

Cuz it's serious bizniss!

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Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: The_Angle on August 05, 2011, 09:40:56 pm
The only reason I think that Pokedoll here isn't yet banned for constant trolling, is that he more than often makes some people(me) laugh :B
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: MrShine on August 05, 2011, 09:42:39 pm
What people don't get it is I'm not trolling here. I'm contacting developers and searching a solution for bug abusing in the game. You can troll as much as you want, I don't care. Its just ironic that people who were talking about honour yesterday are the people who are supporting cheating in this game today. Not that I care about that honour crap that much, but if a community start to abuse the glitches and actually start to defend this sort of behaviour I'm not sure how long this community can support itself.

If you are truly posting for the sole purpose of contacting developers and searching for a solution for bug abusing, then this thread wouldn't exist (it would only exist in the bug reports forum where this thread was correctly copied).

You don't know who did this yet you title your thread accusing BRD specifically and then slander their allies.  You're probably right; it's probably someone opposing you in strat right now, but you're clearly just trying to incite a response against these clans when you have no proof.

If it's an exploit then certainly a temp ban is in order for whoever is behind it (probably 1 or 2 people).  Holy cow though can we be done with this drama?  You would think losing in strat (***beta***) requires you to commit seppuku to defend your e-honor or something, damn.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 05, 2011, 09:44:22 pm
And people wonder why they have a hard time finding a member of the NA community who gives a fuck  :rolleyes:

Strange how OtlL or Chaos or Blackrose or TS or ATS or Hospitaller yadda yadda yadda etc don't really comment with much support or condolences much on these threads and are instead concerned with their own affairs.

*shrugs*



I think it's two fold, one they just don't have a very big presence on the forums even though they are very active in game and within their own communities (I see other's that fall into the same boat, whether NA or EU based, who speak a different language other than english).  And I think the other half is that they don't want to get involved with any sort of forum diplomacy, they'd rather go directly to the source. 
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 09:44:48 pm
What "we" don't get is, why is it when some clan pisses in your pool and is from NA, why do the mercs always start a bitch post and then a half dozen mercs in it stereotype the entire NA community? You just did so yourself, the people who were talking about "Honor" were Acre and Abay... Neither of which "cheated" for the purposes of this thread.

Maybe just as you are tired of people "cheating/antagonizing" your clan, we are tired of always reading a half dozen mercs that say "DAMN NA COMMUNTIY WHY U ALL HATE US?!" Thanks for the stereotype of an entire continent and several countries, we really appreciate it.

Next time, figure out who your target of your bitch thread is and stick with them and stop posting shit like it is the whole damned NA community.

Yeah, damn straight I am tired of hearing people hack in this game and wish it would stop, but I am also tired of the mercs having so many idiots in the clan that can not tell the difference between ONE ALLIANCE and THE REST OF THE NA COMMUNITY and does not know the difference between an American and a Canadadian.

Fine, I get it, it is not the Merc clan acting like tards, it is just a few of the members, so to those members I say this: Bloo Bloo Bloo! Grow up.

Read my whole post once again and find a sentence pointing whole NA community as cheaters, backstabbers, backriders etc. If I was that sort of a person Chaos wouldn't even come and talk to me, same goes for ATS, Ask xKhanx how I spoke to them, or Phoneix company maybe Fallen NA section especially Loki. Just do it.
Ask them and lets see what they will say about me to you.

The problem here is : this war is going on a horrible direction, this is not playing a game anymore. Its just griefing. Thats why I'm saying : I'm not trolling here. I'm not here to insult anyone for who they are, where they come from. I'm writing here to seek advice to get things right.

I already posted this on the bug section before pasting it here, the other reason I write here is : here are the players you are supporting, here is the community you are creating for the future of this mod. I wouldn't react any different if it was an EU player.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 05, 2011, 09:45:33 pm
Most likely candidate to have done this is: Commander_Zorkly_TKoV

He is in my transfer range at the time.

Lets not go pointing fingers Ms.Ginger of The Pussy. Do you have any real evidence that Zorkly could have commited this heinous crime other then him being near you? I bet there are other people within your transfer range.

- Antonio
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 09:47:10 pm
The only reason I think that Pokedoll here isn't yet banned for constant trolling, is that he more than often makes some people(me) laugh :B

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Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: The_Angle on August 05, 2011, 09:48:10 pm
Sire i say sire! It's Cleffa for you!


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+1
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 09:48:31 pm
Lets not go pointing fingers Ms.Ginger of The Pussy. Do you have any real evidence that Zorkly could have commited this heinous crime other then him being near you? I bet there are other people within your transfer range.

- Antonio

He didn't write ZORKLY DID IT but that he is the most likely one that did it (being enemy and abusing a(once) bug in the past ), and im pretty sure admins have the logs to see who did this, can't wait to find out more.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 09:48:50 pm
Lets not go pointing fingers Ms.Ginger of The Pussy. Do you have any real evidence that Zorkly could have commited this heinous crime other then him being near you? I bet there are other people within your transfer range.

- Antonio

+1
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 09:50:29 pm
Read my whole post once again and find a sentence pointing whole NA community as cheaters, backstabbers, backriders etc.

Fine, let me address some of this:
Its just ironic that people who were talking about honour yesterday are the people who are supporting cheating in this game today.
So, the people who were talking about honor are the same people who support cheating in game? Gotcha, good to know that Acre, Abay, Fallen etc who were talking about honor support cheating.

Next, if you would care to read my post, notice I said "half a dozen merc members" so have you bothered reading some of the responses that your own clan members are posting in this thread? Do I really have to start quoting them like mtmtko (though he did apologize bless, his soul for that and addmitting that it was an unfair stereotype) or any of the other members in this thread or the previous "BRD suckz" threads?

My post was not adressing you specifically and only you, but also a bunch of the idiots in this thread.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Shpongled on August 05, 2011, 09:52:31 pm
The thing is, ToD, that we are trying to play this to have fun.

What 'fun' means is by no means universally agreed, but it certainly doesn't mean stretchig the system as far as possible to Fuck with us.

BRD and co lost all priveleges to say 'get over yourself, its just a game' when they showed that they were willing to fuck with our personal lives by forcing us to stay up till all hours of the morning, day in, day out. Now they keep grasping at all any any straws available, like this bullshit.

We want to play the game. Is that not obvious?

Give us a real fight, or leave us alone. This behaviour has and continues to be petty, malicious and incredibly childish.

Now I will no longer participate in this thread. I look forward to fighting BRD and Co. for reals someday.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 09:55:27 pm
The thing is, ToD, that we are trying to play this to have fun.

What 'fun' means is by no means universally agreed, but it certainly doesn't mean stretchig the system as far as possible to Fuck with us.

BRD and co lost all priveleges to say 'get over yourself, its just a game' when they showed that they were willing to fuck with our personal lives by forcing us to stay up till all hours of the morning, day in, day out. Now they keep grasping at all any any straws available, like this bullshit.

We want to play the game. Is that not obvious?

Give us a real fight, or leave us alone. This behaviour has and continues to be petty, malicious and incredibly childish.

Now I will no longer participate in this thread. I look forward to fighting BRD and Co. for reals someday.

Honestly, if every statement was like this then I would agree with the entire thread. Thank you for the reasonable and focused response. Best of wishes, and yes I fully do understand your point.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliences expoliting
Post by: Darkkarma on August 05, 2011, 09:55:49 pm
I urge a ban on BRD or TkoV or whoever did this. It is a deliberate attempt on hacking/abuse of the strategus system.

If it is BRD yet again trying to abuse strategus system then i suggest the hole clan being removed from strategus for at least a month, maybe even a ban on Crpg.

And the award for most over the top reaction to C-rpg beta bug abuse goes to...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 09:55:58 pm
The thing is, ToD, that we are trying to play this to have fun.

What 'fun' means is by no means universally agreed, but it certainly doesn't mean stretchig the system as far as possible to Fuck with us.

BRD and co lost all priveleges to say 'get over yourself, its just a game' when they showed that they were willing to fuck with our personal lives by forcing us to stay up till all hours of the morning, day in, day out. Now they keep grasping at all any any straws available, like this bullshit.

We want to play the game. Is that not obvious?

Give us a real fight, or leave us alone. This behaviour has and continues to be petty, malicious and incredibly childish.

Now I will no longer participate in this thread. I look forward to fighting BRD and Co. for reals someday.

They weren't forcing you. You always have a choice. Whether you appreciate it or not  8-)

And no life was your choice ;)
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 05, 2011, 09:56:23 pm
Lets not go pointing fingers Ms.Ginger of The Pussy. Do you have any real evidence that Zorkly could have commited this heinous crime other then him being near you? I bet there are other people within your transfer range.

- Antonio

I said could. Not, "Do you have an real evidence that Zorkly DID commit..."
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Keshian on August 05, 2011, 09:57:01 pm
Seriously seeing how hard you rage post makes me actually want to do this slightly annoying feature that really doesn't hurt you.  Why cry the Russians are coming to save your ass again after they already gave you almost 5000 troops by this point, they are sending  another 1000 your way, no real need to whine, you are 2nd strategus' 22nd (loud, pompous small clan that has egoes tied up so much in this game you are willing to be the talking puppets of a much larger clan just to win).  Quite frankly all these whine threads, any sane person would have left your clan a long time ago, its just a game people, no need to take it super sereal.  Plus its getting wiped probably inside of a month.

Seriously though that shit was funny enough when I saw your listing of all the items you got, but I was laughing to tears reading how much you guys cried over an annoyance like that.  Even though we will probably lose this round of Strategus to RuConquista, BIA, ARNOR and all the other Russian clans that we are really fighting at this point, I have to say I had an absolute blast, loved the fights and I have had some of the funniest laugh-out-loud moments seeing you guys rage over a beta game.  I love you guys, thank you so much for being so entertaining.

And shpongled, no one made you stay up all night to defend a 22 man army from a 300 man army.  I know my clan simply ignored a few of those fights because they simply were not worth the time.  You have to take the game less seriously.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 09:57:12 pm
Fine, let me address some of this:So, the people who were talking about honor are the same people who support cheating in game? Gotcha, good to know that Acre, Abay, Fallen etc who were talking about honor support cheating.

Next, if you would care to read my post, notice I said "half a dozen merc members" so have you bothered reading some of the responses that your own clan members are posting in this thread? Do I really have to start quoting them like mtmtko (though he did apologize bless, his soul for that and addmitting that it was an unfair stereotype) or any of the other members in this thread or the previous "BRD suckz" threads?

My post was not adressing you specifically and only you, but also a bunch of the idiots in this thread.

Getting huge amounts of troops from someone else to gank others is something I've learned from you Kesh. See you are contradicting yourself constantly. Do I have to quote you Kesh? How many times do I have to remind you that you've started this flame war and you know it.
Don't put words in my mouth, you are biased since the very start of this war.

Eren is the first one speaking of honor, and he is my country man.
Abay is also my country man
Gnjus my friend since the early days of this mod and Croatian


I was talking about Kesh and Barbaros *cough* Abay  *cough*, what I meant by that sentence is simply "People change their face everyday", you are not entitled to talk about Mercs and their promises if you are contradicting yourself. I thought you'd understand that.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gingerpussy on August 05, 2011, 09:57:44 pm
Lets not go pointing fingers Ms.Ginger of The Pussy. Do you have any real evidence that Zorkly could have commited this heinous crime other then him being near you? I bet there are other people within your transfer range.

- Antonio
Nope, at the time he was alone. yet there is a chance someone are inside a castle or a fief that stay on the same ground.
other then that it could be sendt from a fief to me, aka BRD clan.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: DaveUKR on August 05, 2011, 09:58:45 pm
Kesh, I've never said it to you but I just feel I have to say it to you right now: you're a stupid person. Those troops they have now are their troops and we didn't take that troops from them. Cure your brain and eyes.

Yeah, and keep giving minuses to posts because it's the only thing you can make.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 05, 2011, 10:02:14 pm
Nope, at the time he was alone. yet there is a chance someone are inside a castle or a fief that stay on the same ground.
other then that it could be sendt from a fief to me, aka BRD clan.


As long as there is a chance it could not have been him, then hes not guilty in the great american justice system! Huzzah!!
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kalam on August 05, 2011, 10:03:22 pm
Concerning culprits: if item re-distribution is considered bug exploitation, and you want someone to blame, blame me. I'll take sole responsibility for whatever the grievances are. If you want someone to ban, ban me. This is where the buck stops, after all.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 10:04:14 pm
Don't put words in my mouth, you are biased since the very start of this war.

Eren is the first one speaking of honor, and he is my country man.
Abay is also my country man
Gnjus my friend since the early days of this mod and Croatian


I was talking about Kesh and Barbaros *cough* Abay  *cough*, what I meant by that sentence is simply "People change their face everyday", you are not entitled to talk about Mercs and their promises if you are contradicting yourself. I thought you'd understand that.

Then why the hell did you say "the people" instead of BRD and Co/Barbaros?! There is an extremely clear and simple way to distinguish the difference in the English language, and saying "the people" in the fashion you did refers to everyone in the thread since you did not add clarity to the sentence and what the subject was.

"you are not entitled to talk about Mercs and their promises if you are contradicting yourself. I thought you'd understand that." As for putting words in mouths, mind quoting me on when I was talking about Mercs and promises? Not sure I have been talking about any promises of the mercs, and just that a half a dozen of your members are complete fucktwits.

At the start of the war, I ahve to admit that I respected and liked The Mercs, but right now yeah I am biased against you and pretty much everyone on both sides of this attrocious little mud flinging contest. At this point to hell with everyone on all sides for turning this into what it is. How is that for biased?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 10:04:18 pm
Seriously seeing how hard you rage post makes me actually want to do this slightly annoying feature that really doesn't hurt you.  Why cry the Russians are coming to save your ass again after they already gave you almost 5000 troops by this point, they are sending  another 1000 your way, no real need to whine, you are 2nd strategus' 22nd (loud, pompous small clan that has egoes tied up so much in this game you are willing to be the talking puppets of a much larger clan just to win).  Quite frankly all these whine threads, any sane person would have left your clan a long time ago, its just a game people, no need to take it super sereal.  Plus its getting wiped probably inside of a month.

Seriously though that shit was funny enough when I saw your listing of all the items you got, but I was laughing to tears reading how much you guys cried over an annoyance like that.  Even though we will probably lose this round of Strategus to RuConquista, BIA, ARNOR and all the other Russian clans that we are really fighting at this point, I have to say I had an absolute blast, loved the fights and I have had some of the funniest laugh-out-loud moments seeing you guys rage over a beta game.  I love you guys, thank you so much for being so entertaining.

And shpongled, no one made you stay up all night to defend a 22 man army from a 300 man army.  I know my clan simply ignored a few of those fights because they simply were not worth the time.  You have to take the game less seriously.

See what I mean by contradicting yourself? When you get 4K troops from HRE you have all the right to have it and I don't? Forget everything

You've started this flame war Kesh I told you that and you still act like we made the first post.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Diomedes on August 05, 2011, 10:04:56 pm
My favorite part are the EU folks who are always quick to say "American this" or "American that" because Canada is not NA, right? Nothing but igloos and beaver hunters and lumber jacks there! Small itsy bitsy country amirit?

<3

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Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Keshian on August 05, 2011, 10:05:30 pm
Concerning culprits: if item re-distribution is considered bug exploitation, and you want someone to blame, blame me. I'll take sole responsibility for whatever the grievances are. If you want someone to ban, ban me. This is where the buck stops, after all.

No Kalam, seriously "I am Spartacus".  They already hate me, if you are going to blame anyone for this incredibly funny antic - blame me, glad to take on the credit.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Keshian on August 05, 2011, 10:06:43 pm
Then why the hell did you say "the people" instead of BRD and Co/Barbaros?! There is an extremely clear and simple way to distinguish the difference in the English language, and saying "the people" in the fashion you did refers to everyone in the thread since you did not add clarity to the sentence and what the subject was.

"you are not entitled to talk about Mercs and their promises if you are contradicting yourself. I thought you'd understand that." As for putting words in mouths, mind quoting me on when I was talking about Mercs and promises? Not sure I have been talking about any promises of the mercs, and just that a half a dozen of your members are complete fucktwits.

At the start of the war, I ahve to admit that I respected and liked The Mercs, but right now yeah I am biased against you and pretty much everyone on both sides of this attrocious little mud flinging contest. At this point to hell with everyone on all sides for turning this into what it is. How is that for biased?

We still love you Tears, no matter how much you hate us.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 10:08:33 pm
Then why the hell did you say "the people" instead of BRD and Co/Barbaros?! There is an extremely clear and simple way to distinguish the difference in the English language, and saying "the people" in the fashion you did refers to everyone in the thread since you did not add clarity to the sentence and what the subject was.

"you are not entitled to talk about Mercs and their promises if you are contradicting yourself. I thought you'd understand that." As for putting words in mouths, mind quoting me on when I was talking about Mercs and promises? Not sure I have been talking about any promises of the mercs, and just that a half a dozen of your members are complete fucktwits.

At the start of the war, I ahve to admit that I respected and liked The Mercs, but right now yeah I am biased against you and pretty much everyone on both sides of this attrocious little mud flinging contest. At this point to hell with everyone on all sides for turning this into what it is. How is that for biased?

Kesh was talking about our promises to other clans. Ok I'm going to clear out few things for you :

1 Who attacked first? BRD or Mercs?
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2 Who made the first flame post? Mercs or BRD?
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3 Who abused bugs in almost every battle until now?
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I don't care if you don't respect me or my clan but if you are fighting a solid reality, maybe its time to take a step and think once again. What is wrong in this story?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Babelfish on August 05, 2011, 10:09:45 pm
Offtopic: Why are people responding to tear's posts? He is twelve for fcks sake.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 10:10:58 pm
/Sarcasm/ Good job muting Keshian u besterds!

He shall have his revenge when he gets his Pokémon avatar!
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 05, 2011, 10:11:12 pm
We all lov ToD
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: DaveUKR on August 05, 2011, 10:13:52 pm
Concerning culprits: if item re-distribution is considered bug exploitation, and you want someone to blame, blame me. I'll take sole responsibility for whatever the grievances are. If you want someone to ban, ban me. This is where the buck stops, after all.

Doesn't matter whose idea it was. Only those who used that will be punished. We don't need someone to be banned, we need exploit abusers being banned. What the hell were you guys thinking when you've decided to use it? It's an obvious old bug and using it is breaking at least 2 points of General Rules. And there is no excuse for using it. If you see an obvious bug/exploit you have to report it but not use it. If you don't do this - you get banned. As I've already said in IRC, I always report bugs and I don't use them to have any benefits.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Oberyn on August 05, 2011, 10:14:31 pm
Lol Kesh, who whined endlessly about 22nd, who spent countless posts detailing personal conspiracy theories in full, who talks shit to other clans on the forums and declares war because of a territory dispute, who had 90+ generations, is making fun of people for taking the game too seriously. Comedy gold.
And then goes around still pretending to know wtf he's talking about, when every single action his clan have made has been full of fail.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BaleOhay on August 05, 2011, 10:15:02 pm
can we call it the Kesh Bomb then instead of the equipment bomb?
I just wish i was not going away on vacation so i could be in this fight to see what happens.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Magikarp on August 05, 2011, 10:15:41 pm
/Sarcasm/ Good job muting Keshian u besterds!

He shall have his revenge when he gets his Pokémon avatar!
I'd say: Have fun being muted bitch! He always fucking - me in the old awesomebar system, getting me muted. He deserves it.

And Kalam, I don't even have words for you supporting this kind of crap.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 10:18:30 pm
I'd say: Have fun being muted bitch! He always fucking - me in the old awesomebar system, getting me muted. He deserves it.

And Kalam, I don't even have words for you supporting this kind of crap.

I won't give you - but no + either.

:-D Also get aut from this thread and start getting more pokemenz recruits!
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Akincibegi on August 05, 2011, 10:19:14 pm
 :shock: im shocked mant seems brd guys wanna defeated buy wooden sticks and cudgels ok it ll be fun for me.hiding behind a bug or whatelse is just the job of cowards even in a game  :lol:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 05, 2011, 10:19:29 pm
Kesh was talking about our promises to other clans. Ok I'm going to clear out few things for you :

1 Who attacked first? BRD or Mercs?
(click to show/hide)

2 Who made the first flame post? Mercs or BRD?
(click to show/hide)

3 Who abused bugs in almost every battle until now?
(click to show/hide)

I don't care if you don't respect me or my clan but if you are fighting a solid reality, maybe its time to take a step and think once again. What is wrong in this story?

Right, let me clarify a few things for you now that I have stepped abck and found my stance the same:
1.) I agree
2.) I agree
3.) I have seen both sides with my own eyes exploit (Invisible walls ring a bell?)

What is wrong with this story? A lot, a whole bloody lot is wrong with this story. What you don't seem to udnerstand is not that I am saying "Mercs u so bad and evil rarw I hates you all lololol you got hacked nothing wrong with that." What I am saying is that you have a lot of idiotic members who keep acting like when BRD does something it is the entire NA Community (In their own words) who support every little actions, and is against you and yadda yadda blah blah blah. God damnit how hard is it to understand that if a bunch of your members keep pointing fingers at the whole NA Community when they shoudl only be pointing at the FCC then NOT SURPSINGLY quite a few members of the NA Community are going to say "shut up piss off and who cares."

I will now leave the thread as this is the third time I have said this and people are not getting my point and likely never will.

I sincerely hope that no further hackings are done on any side, that some of the Merc members learn who the NA Clans are, and that Both of BRD and Mercs suddenly learn to get along make sweet love and have babies together OR murder each other seneslessly on the battlefield in good clean fun and stop splashing mud all over the whole damn forum.

EDIT: And seriously, this:
Offtopic: Why are people responding to tear's posts? He is twelve for fcks sake.
This is the smartest post in the entire thread.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gingerpussy on August 05, 2011, 10:21:52 pm
No Merc member did exploit invisible walls, but another faction. go read the 35 page post again.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lizard_man on August 05, 2011, 10:23:40 pm
Countberenger, Keshian, here's another post from an EU player to give a -1 to...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Xant on August 05, 2011, 10:23:59 pm
you are 2nd strategus' 22nd (loud, pompous small clan that has egoes tied up so much in this game you are willing to be the talking puppets of a much larger clan just to win). 

U NO INSULT 22ND
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Anwyl on August 05, 2011, 10:26:02 pm
BRD and co lost all priveleges to say 'get over yourself, its just a game' when they showed that they were willing to fuck with our personal lives by forcing us to stay up till all hours of the morning, day in, day out. Now they keep grasping at all any any straws available, like this bullshit.

Someone have a gun to your head? It is just a game. If you decide that staying up until 4 in the morning is worth it to you then you made your own choice.

Prime time for NA is middle of the fucking night for EU and Prime time EU is middle of the fucking night for NA.
If you want someone to blame for having to fight in the middle of the night blame chadz for not splitting strategus.

Honestly that was probably the dumbest post I have read, and I read this whole thread.

I tried hard not to say anything, I don't support exploiting at all. But bitching about us forcing you to fight in the middle of the night is insulting. I've stayed up until 5 am to fight a battle. It was my own choice, my CHOICE.

As a final note: Fuck off haters, we're gonna win this shit.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Magikarp on August 05, 2011, 10:26:19 pm
U NO INSULT 22ND
U NO SPAM DIS TOPIC

Could the Mercs please stop hugging and kissing each other for every goddamn post they make?

I think it's enough, Kalam should be punished accordingly along with anyone else who supported using exploits.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 05, 2011, 10:28:40 pm
Someone have a gun to your head? It is just a game. If you decide that staying up until 4 in the morning is worth it to you then you made your own choice.

Prime time for NA is middle of the fucking night for EU and Prime time EU is middle of the fucking night for NA.
If you want someone to blame for having to fight in the middle of the night blame chadz for not splitting strategus.

Honestly that was probably the dumbest post I have read, and I read this whole thread.

I tried hard not to say anything, I don't support exploiting at all. But bitching about us forcing you to fight in the middle of the night is insulting. I've stayed up until 5 am to fight a battle. It was my own choice, my CHOICE.

As a final note: Fuck off haters, we're gonna win this shit.

 :shock:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Anwyl on August 05, 2011, 10:29:47 pm
:shock:

You can fuck off too.

On topic: Everyone should just shut up and fight. The exploit has been reported, and will likely be fixed, it's senseless to punish people for finding bugs isn't it? At this rate no one will want to report bugs ever and we will be stuck with a buggy piece of shit for until the end times.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 10:30:26 pm
Countberenger, Keshian, here's another post from an EU player to give a -1 to...

Thanks :3
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Horse_And_Sword on August 05, 2011, 10:31:37 pm
No Merc member did exploit invisible walls, but another faction. go read the 35 page post again.
Hmmm I dont know for sure but..... That one battle at tadsamesh where you guys were attacking us i woke up one hour later from when the battle started. The battle went on for more than an hour and i woke up to see you guys behind a invisible wall at your spawn.But mistake me if im wrong.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Snickers on August 05, 2011, 10:32:56 pm
Kesh was talking about our promises to other clans. Ok I'm going to clear out few things for you :

1 Who attacked first? BRD or Mercs?
(click to show/hide)

2 Who made the first flame post? Mercs or BRD?
(click to show/hide)

3 Who abused bugs in almost every battle until now?
(click to show/hide)

I don't care if you don't respect me or my clan but if you are fighting a solid reality, maybe its time to take a step and think once again. What is wrong in this story?

Your acting like a child, pointing fingers at people and saying "Wahh Wahh but he started it"
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Phazey on August 05, 2011, 10:33:26 pm
Concerning culprits: if item re-distribution is considered bug exploitation, and you want someone to blame, blame me. I'll take sole responsibility for whatever the grievances are. If you want someone to ban, ban me. This is where the buck stops, after all.

"Item re-distribution"?
This is exploiting a game-breaking bug.

So you're saying you did or ordered this? Knowing it's effect?

Why are you requesting to be banned? I don't understand. Are you taking credit for this?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Darkkarma on August 05, 2011, 10:35:32 pm
No Merc member did exploit invisible walls, but another faction. go read the 35 page post again.

I would know since I killed a few. Some of you were doing it. It wasn't just the other merc factions doing it. A few of your lads would shoot from behind the spawn wall for 2-3 seconds and then come out when you'd pushed the attackers back. I know this because A few people I was trying to get a shot at would do this and then either get killed by me or someone else. Your whole clan certainly wasn't exploiting it. But to say that you guys didn't take advantage of it from time to time just isn't true.

Also, as Anwyl pointed out, these EU vs NA wars have been fucking hell on all of us as far as social lives go. I mean, I've just now gotten my sleep schedule back on track from dealing with EU vs NA affairs/battles. That point is a bit moot in my eyes, seeing as how I could have chosen to say "fuck it it's a game" and go to be whenever I felt strong enough to do so.


I'm also pretty shocked at how poor of sports some of our EU counterparts are being on this. A few NA guys exploited a bug and suddenly thinly veiled american hate posts come pouring in. I'm all for seeing that this bug get fixed and those involved get reprimanded, but if the separation of EU and NA bears any relevance to bug abuse and how to stop it in your minds, then you probably ought to re-evaluate a thing or two.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tuonela on August 05, 2011, 10:35:59 pm
Hmmm I dont know for sure but..... That one battle at tadsamesh where you guys were attacking us i woke up one hour later from when the battle started. The battle went on for more than an hour and i woke up to see you guys behind a invisible wall at your spawn.But mistake me if im wrong.

How can you see an invisible wall? And we didn't camp behind it, we camped in front of it.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 10:36:38 pm
"Item re-distribution"?
This is exploiting a game-breaking bug.

So you're saying you did or ordered this, on purpose?

Why are you requesting to be banned? I don't understand. Are you taking credit for this?

What he meant was that he likes to distribute pancakes and waffles to his fellow BRD members.

True story and for real.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Anwyl on August 05, 2011, 10:36:52 pm
"Item re-distribution"?
This is exploiting a game-breaking bug.

So you're saying you did or ordered this, on purpose, knowing it's an exploit that breaks the game?

Maybe I should take reading comprehension again. It looks to me that he was negligent that it was an exploit, seeing as no one had ever done it before. But I guess you're the admin.

Hey maybe you should ban him for finding a bug!
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kalam on August 05, 2011, 10:39:58 pm
"Item re-distribution"?
This is exploiting a game-breaking bug.

So you're saying you did or ordered this? Knowing it's effect?

Why are you requesting to be banned? I don't understand. Are you taking credit for this?

I'm stating that it is my responsibility to stop things like this, and clearly, I didn't- it's my fault. So, yes, I'm taking credit for it.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Phazey on August 05, 2011, 10:40:48 pm
...seeing as no one had ever done it before.

It's been used before. It's an old bug.

Hey maybe you should ban him for finding a bug!

If you find a bug, the thing to do is: make a post about it on the bug forum. You don't go around breaking the game for other people with it, that's called griefing.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 05, 2011, 10:41:07 pm

Hey maybe you should ban him for finding a bug!
And for being awesome and exploiting it instead of reporting it! Durr  :|....
Oh well, I'm getting tired of this BS, can't wait for seperation of NA and EU!
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lansamur on August 05, 2011, 10:42:21 pm
Almost 150 post of QQ... or did I miss something in skipping basically all 3 pages?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Phazey on August 05, 2011, 10:43:00 pm
So, yes, I'm taking credit for it.

You should know better.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 10:43:05 pm
Almost 150 post of QQ... or did I miss something in skipping basically all 3 pages?

You missed my trolling.  :cry:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Horse_And_Sword on August 05, 2011, 10:43:40 pm
How can you see an invisible wall? And we didn't camp behind it, we camped in front of it.

Because i saw a few people couldnt go back into your spawn, and i went up to try to take your flag but i was stopped maybe 10-30 feet away from your spawn. Then i died.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Flawless on August 05, 2011, 10:44:01 pm
Its alot of QQ. You didnt miss a thing, and now people are -1 each other to mute them. this thread needs to be locked.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Anwyl on August 05, 2011, 10:46:45 pm
Its alot of QQ. You didnt miss a thing, and now people are -1 each other to mute them. this thread needs to be locked.

I'll +1 for a lock.

I'll also give 5 internets to Nocti if he keeps his complaining to himself and instead just puts these posts in the "report bug" thread
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 05, 2011, 10:47:16 pm
Right, let me clarify a few things for you now that I have stepped abck and found my stance the same:
1.) I agree
2.) I agree
3.) I have seen both sides with my own eyes exploit (Invisible walls ring a bell?)

What is wrong with this story? A lot, a whole bloody lot is wrong with this story. What you don't seem to udnerstand is not that I am saying "Mercs u so bad and evil rarw I hates you all lololol you got hacked nothing wrong with that." What I am saying is that you have a lot of idiotic members who keep acting like when BRD does something it is the entire NA Community (In their own words) who support every little actions, and is against you and yadda yadda blah blah blah. God damnit how hard is it to understand that if a bunch of your members keep pointing fingers at the whole NA Community when they shoudl only be pointing at the FCC then NOT SURPSINGLY quite a few members of the NA Community are going to say "shut up piss off and who cares."

I will now leave the thread as this is the third time I have said this and people are not getting my point and likely never will.

I sincerely hope that no further hackings are done on any side, that some of the Merc members learn who the NA Clans are, and that Both of BRD and Mercs suddenly learn to get along make sweet love and have babies together OR murder each other seneslessly on the battlefield in good clean fun and stop splashing mud all over the whole damn forum.

EDIT: And seriously, this:This is the smartest post in the entire thread.

I can get along with BRD I mentioned that before, I just can't get a long with Kesh, since he is the most influential member of BRD (seems like) that romantic humping is never gonna happen. I can talk Matey and Kalam any day on a civil basis.

Lets talk about that retard Mercs alright you are talking about Mtemtko, Jambi, Dave, Vargas dunno if there are any more names but probably there are, me for example. You can answer them, you can report them, anything you want as long as you are right. I always said it. I'm their leader but not their father, they keep me in my position because they need someone to run the flock and I keep them because they are good fighters.
I cannot sense their posts or lecture them to not to do it. That makes me a a dictator. Their posts are not my concern as long as they mean no harm.

Of course BRD is getting NA support TOD, which is very normal, why shouldn't you get the support of people which you play everyday. You guys are on the same Vents playing together. To every NA clan who visited my TS I told them one thing and one thing only:

-I'm not trying to act like a good cop and put you guys against your friends, if NA gets separate from EU you'll be left alone with them BUT! get yourself a better advisor than Kesh Almost all of their allies and NA players who visited my TS would confirm that.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 05, 2011, 10:50:31 pm
I think it would be best as Anwyl said to lock the thread.  I think the discussion should continue in private between who ever is involved and the devz/admins etc.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 10:51:10 pm
I think it would be best as Anwyl said to lock the thread.  I think the discussion should continue in private between who ever is involved and the devz/admins etc.

And me.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: JihadistMexican on August 05, 2011, 10:54:19 pm
And me.

A conversation with out Lord Berenger is just a bunch of people talking to each other.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 10:56:14 pm
A conversation with out Lord Berenger is just a bunch of people talking to each other.

Exactly! I shall spice it all up! Cuz i'm the most cool trawl in CRPG.

You know what? I'm freaking adorable!  8-)


Stop giving me - Phazhy.

U know u love me  :oops:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Phazey on August 05, 2011, 11:05:07 pm
Griefing is not fun.

Derailing threads consistently with spam is not cool.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gnjus on August 05, 2011, 11:05:17 pm
Quite frankly all these whine threads, any sane person would have left your clan a long time ago, its just a game people, no need to take it super sereal.    You have to take the game less seriously.

Look who's talking. Now go and read all you wrote so far and come back when you're done with it. Then write this sentence again.

Seriously people, why are we still answering to this monstrosity ? His greatest victory is actually having people who reply to his posts, all he does is trolling and making stupid-above-the-average comments & accusations, and when you kill him off with arguments he just conveniently switches the subject like nothing happened. I'm done with speaking to such a retard who's greatest achievement in his miserable life is to be ranked #1 in this mod.
Mercs (and everyone else who has some sanity left) i suggest you ignore that stupid scum and do your business, crush him in-game & just report all his shit to developers without any big fuss. I know keyboards are cheap but still he's not worth wasting 'em on him and his rubbish.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: LordBerenger on August 05, 2011, 11:11:26 pm
Griefing is not fun.

Derailing threads consistently with spam is not cool.

Lies it's incredibly fun. Especially if Mercs are involved in creating threads  8-)


Also

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Someone forgot to take his/her anger management class today.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: wylker on August 05, 2011, 11:19:33 pm
GOLDMINE
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lansamur on August 05, 2011, 11:24:55 pm
Anyone knows when Strat goes Alpha?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 05, 2011, 11:27:38 pm
Delicious
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BaleOhay on August 05, 2011, 11:32:59 pm

Man I thought when gift giving it was the thought that counts? You ever think that it might just be hard to shop for the alliance that has everything!!! At least they did not get you a crappy gift card!

I would list all those items again just because it cracks me up but people can just go back to the first post to see all their glory
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: McCart on August 05, 2011, 11:39:23 pm
lol
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Varric on August 05, 2011, 11:40:28 pm
Finding exploits is good, please report them and don't use them to grief. if you do use exploits to grief other players or factions, you risk getting removed from strategus.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Different on August 05, 2011, 11:52:53 pm
Finding exploits is good, please report them and don't use them to grief. if you do use exploits to grief other players or factions, you risk getting removed from strategus.

+1 on  that. So devs know about the exploiting etc.

Now lets crush heads on the battlefield !

Cause thats what this game is made for
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: a_bear_irl on August 05, 2011, 11:54:12 pm
-mercs abuse the strat battle system literally every time they've attacked
-post threads whining about people transfering them equipment

basically merc clan you guys seem really awful and i hope you lose all of your territory
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Different on August 05, 2011, 11:55:20 pm
basically merc clan you guys seem really awful and i hope you lose all of your territory

and I hope you get muted


We will see
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 05, 2011, 11:55:40 pm
-mercs abuse the strat battle system literally every time they've attacked
-post threads whining about people transfering them equipment

basically merc clan you guys seem really awful and i hope you lose all of your territory

Lolololol one example ONE example please
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lizard_man on August 05, 2011, 11:57:06 pm
-mercs abuse the strat battle system literally every time they've attacked

please explain...

Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 06, 2011, 12:00:58 am
Just ignore him.

I'll quote this:

I  guess anyone with reasonable enough judgement will be able to form his own opinion .

Someone could just close the thread now before it turns into a flamewar.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: SittingBull on August 06, 2011, 12:03:03 am
This thread is full of Merc rage. Quite enjoyable.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 06, 2011, 12:06:44 am
Finding exploits is good, please report them and don't use them to grief. if you do use exploits to grief other players or factions, you risk getting removed from strategus.

My work is done here
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BaleOhay on August 06, 2011, 12:07:13 am
Can someone please take a picture of the starting equipment screen and post it after the battle
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Spartan793 on August 06, 2011, 12:09:21 am
-mercs abuse the strat battle system literally every time they've attacked
-post threads whining about people transfering them equipment

basically merc clan you guys seem really awful and i hope you lose all of your territory

Seriously?!

Yeah, because it was an obvious attempt to grief and were going to take losses because of it, you'd be just as mad if it happened to you

In what way do we abuse strat battle system?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lizard_man on August 06, 2011, 12:18:33 am
careful Spartan, you'll receive negative votes for making sense in this thread...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Spartan793 on August 06, 2011, 12:26:28 am
Damn, best avoid not being a biased tw*t in future
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Draeth on August 06, 2011, 01:01:44 am
this is hilarious

 :shock:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: [ptx] on August 06, 2011, 01:02:30 am
CountBerenger and Keshian, are you what, twelve? -'ing every single post made by mercs and their allies, regardless of content, is really infantile.  :|

-edit: yeah, thanks for the confirmation.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Jarlek on August 06, 2011, 01:03:23 am
Only me who was surprised the list wasn't longer?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Bobthehero on August 06, 2011, 01:07:50 am
I stand by what most people said regarding morning/late night battle, go sleep, dont bother with them, I slept through a ton of major battle, big fucking deal...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dehitay on August 06, 2011, 01:08:22 am
I find it kind of amusing how I read the original post and thought, "Wow, Nocti, overreact much?" Then I read the rest of the thread and formed pretty much the opposite opinion.

The first bug is an obvious bug and should be fixed. I actually did this purely by accident myself. I was recruiting in Emirin (at that point, held by HRE) before I attacked Toshdar. I realized what happened after I checked my character page and saw the list of people recruiting in Emirin. I left the town, but still didn't get randomly placed on the map after my loss. I was told that attackers don't get warped, only defenders? Is this true? Or is it because I started the attack while in a village?

The 2nd is obviously not a bug, and just Mercs complaining about being forced to do stuff they aren't being forced to do. Am I the only one that finds it ironic that Mercs don't seem to be willing to use mercs? Most people consider losing all your troops to be a punishment.

The 3rd is a huge issue. I know from personal experience that if you have too many items, not all of them will show on your equipment select menu. It's actually the ones you bought first that don't show, which would really be hurtful here as the Mercs probly bought their real equipment before being bombarded with crappy equipment. However, I haven't seen them post about not being able to use their real equipment, so I doubt it was a critical problem and more of a major nuisance.

While listing the bugs (even though one wasn't a bug as much as a complaint) is a valid issue, the title of the thread makes it obviously a means of expression for the Mercs to whine. And they damn sure did. But then their haters had to go do even stupider stuff and whine so hard that the Mercs seem completely rational in comparison.

I'm surprised how people can be stupid enough to say you shouldn't be punished for blatantly abusing bugs because this is a beta system. That's like saying I shouldn't be punished hacking into a new bank's servers before they have their new website deployed cause their network wasn't finished yet. A bug abuser is a bug abuser regardless of which system's bugs they're abusing.

But the worst part of this thread was the huge whine fest of people complaining how people keep complaining about the NA group in general rather than specifically. I'm not going to go back and look, but I only saw one post about NA being a problem besides the obvious troll posts. But the boo hoos from people complaining about it makes up over 10% of this thread and most of it lead by Tears.

Basically, this thread is nothing more than a bunch of complaining that led me to complaining. Maybe we all burn in hell together for our incessant whining with nothing but our limitless tears to bring us relief.


Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: [ptx] on August 06, 2011, 01:11:09 am
Dehitay, about the 2nd - but they DON'T lose all their troops, in fact they don't lose anything at all that way - hence the problem ;)
And, well, they are entirely within their rights to expect a battle, when they get attacked. Getting a lot of people to stay up to fight a battle that doesn't really happen - that is griefing...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: polkafranzi on August 06, 2011, 01:23:31 am
this is hilarious

 :shock:

your avatar is hilarious
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dehitay on August 06, 2011, 01:28:13 am
Dehitay, about the 2nd - but they DON'T lose all their troops, in fact they don't lose anything at all that way - hence the problem ;)
And, well, they are entirely within their rights to expect a battle, when they get attacked. Getting a lot of people to stay up to fight a battle that doesn't really happen - that is griefing...

So you're saying that not a single attacker showed up, yet they didn't lose any troops? To my knowledge, unless you win by capping the spawn while there are actual attackers, the attacking force loses all its tickets. I believe this happened to somebody from BRD when they did have attackers, but all left instead of finishing the fight. The system took it as no players were attacking and killed off all the remaining troops. Now if the system is honestly broken and they did keep all their troops without actually showing up, then it would need to be fixed. But prior experience leads me to believe this isn't the case. How do you know they kept all their troops?

And if it's so much of a problem for your EU players, then find an NA clanmate who's worthy enough to command and give him merc hiring powers. Then have that commander, your NA members, your NA allies, and mercs fight instead. I do honestly care about bugs and abusers screwing things up for you. But I'm getting tired of hearing about how you "have to stay up all night" to come to battles.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Thax on August 06, 2011, 02:36:51 am
And while these opposing alliances battle it out over a few paltry villages...most clans are assaulting castles. Cadmean comes to mind.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: a_bear_irl on August 06, 2011, 03:04:08 am
Lolololol one example ONE example please

pretend i'm quoting the rest of the mercs raging about my post too

anyway, in every battle where you were attackers you camped outside of the town and waited until the defenders got bored enough to sally at you. this is obviously an abuse of the battle system, you're not actually attackings, you're just camping. i spectated some of the merc/blackrose battle and if i were able, i would have declared your attack to have stalled, fined you 500 troops and maybe 20% of your equipment and made you try again. it's a clear abuse but because daveukr is in your clan nothing is done about it

and i know i'm not the only one who feels this way, given the numerous clans attacking you, people from clans unfriendly with clans you're attacking mercing for the guys you're attacking, etc
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 06, 2011, 03:16:19 am
pretend i'm quoting the rest of the mercs raging about my post too

anyway, in every battle where you were attackers you camped outside of the town and waited until the defenders got bored enough to sally at you. this is obviously an abuse of the battle system, you're not actually attackings, you're just camping. i spectated some of the merc/blackrose battle and if i were able, i would have declared your attack to have stalled, fined you 500 troops and maybe 20% of your equipment and made you try again. it's a clear abuse but because daveukr is in your clan nothing is done about it

and i know i'm not the only one who feels this way, given the numerous clans attacking you, people from clans unfriendly with clans you're attacking mercing for the guys you're attacking, etc

You are not the only one who feels that way because, you are not the only one who knows nothing about strategy. We play the battle of patience, you just charge like a mindless beast. Got it?
Btw I thought you guys were going to attack us what happened?

(click to show/hide)

?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lizard_man on August 06, 2011, 03:19:23 am
are you stupid, camping is abuse now ?, unless you haven't noticed there's only one spawn point for the attackers, alot of people go on the defensive when attacking a village, we're not the only ones, it's one way to make sure you don't lose your spawn, this isn't abuse of the battle system at all, it's making good use of the shitty spawn system, anyway, back to the matter at hand, sending an army that is engaged in battle a shitload of pointless equipment so that they can't use there own equipment, this is taking the piss, whoever did it knew exactly what they were doing i think there should be some kind of punishment, you're stupid if you think otherwise...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 06, 2011, 03:25:21 am
Meh I dont care about the server time slots. Yes its irritating, yes its not sportsmanship, but all it does is make it more difficult to win and can therefore be overcome.If I want to fight, even if it makes me tired at work, I have the choice,I can, This items list really fucks me off though. The items worth the least gold get displayed first and so we have to eat through 1000's of tickets of tunics and stones just to get to our gear. But even that wont happen because we can be overwhelmed at spawn withour shitty equip and be spawnraped. This bug doesnt make it harder for us, it makes it impossible. Skill and battle tactics can overcome disadvantages but they cant overcome this. We cant sell off this equipment as we are engaged in battle and are thereofore doomed to lose. Im not pointing fingers at America in general but whoever did this, most likely Kesh or one of his little pet clans is a real idiot. I dont rage, I dont troll, but trust me when I say, you are a real fuckhead.

EDIT: Ive always wondered what lizard mans profile pic even is?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Topsnus on August 06, 2011, 04:02:32 am
Your clanmate Erasmas took it too seriously too back then? I see what you did there, aslong the bug/exploit doesnt affect your clan, its all k, no probs, why ban?
You need to chill out. The whole strat is gonna be wiped several times before it ever matters anyway. Also, that equipment thing is hilarious. It should be fixed, but there shouldnt be a consequence. This is how bugs are found.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lizard_man on August 06, 2011, 04:13:05 am
are you dumb, it's a known bug, and even if it wasn't, why would they send there enemy such a thing, it's blatantly been used for the purpose of screwing us over, why can you not see this... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Siiem on August 06, 2011, 04:18:30 am
are you dumb, it's a known bug, and even if it wasn't, why would they send there enemy such a thing, it's blatantly been used for the purpose of screwing us over, why can you not see this... :rolleyes:

Atleast now it's a known bug so when strategus is reset they can't do it again, and you will be prepared then. So it's better for it to happen now.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lizard_man on August 06, 2011, 04:21:01 am
this is true Siiem, but you can understand the frustration no...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 06, 2011, 04:22:09 am
Atleast now it's a known bug so when strategus is reset they can't do it again, and you will be prepared then. So it's better for it to happen now.



Finding exploits is good, please report them and don't use them to grief. if you do use exploits to grief other players or factions, you risk getting removed from strategus.

Yes sure Siiem. At this rate they wont be around in the next strategus.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Zorato on August 06, 2011, 08:55:03 am
Hi guys, what's going on in this thread?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Prpavi on August 06, 2011, 10:16:45 am
Its quite amusing now almost every NA player post finds this equipement bug "hillarious" and thinks that nobody should face any consequences. Why?

Is it because you feel you compatriots did a smart move and you feel proud of them? Is it just a NA vs EU thing for you? Or do you just hate the Mercs and love to see the griefed and abused?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: tankmen on August 06, 2011, 10:32:08 am
i hope this encourages more EU for the split, and as for the 5 am -8 am, i haven't yet defended against a EU that the battle wasn't at those times. both sides attack at a time that isn't convenient for the other, as to not showing up, they may hope you dont and they are trying to fake you out idk
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kalp on August 06, 2011, 11:30:00 am
Quote
3 The latest one : Sending crappy equipment to the enemy

Goal : to keep their item window crowded, preventing the attackers (or defenders) from using their own equipment.

Isn't there is an option (in "Your character page") to sell equipment ?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Spartan793 on August 06, 2011, 11:31:40 am
This whole thing is just some way of trying to grief at Mercs

Why else would we be sent that much shitty equip from someone we were about to attack? It very blatantly a bug that they knew about and were exploiting. I find it staggering that nothing is being done about them and they can get away with this scott free.

Hell, if we'd done the same to them we'd have been kicked outta stratejus straight away -_-
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lordark on August 06, 2011, 11:39:18 am
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Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Malaclypse on August 06, 2011, 12:44:42 pm
Hi guys, what's going on in this thread?

Dicks everywhere, Zorato.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Zorato on August 06, 2011, 12:48:53 pm
I'm now interested!!  :oops:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dehitay on August 06, 2011, 01:02:56 pm
Isn't there is an option (in "Your character page") to sell equipment ?
You can't sell your equipment once you've been engaged in a battle. I assume it's because doing so would allow you to prevent a lot of losses if you're expecting to lose the battle. And development wants to make sure there's a price for losing
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Blondin on August 06, 2011, 01:07:08 pm
Mercs discovering what is war?
Or are you upset because you didn't find yourself this trick?
Seems Mercs win the war on battlefield and Brd win the psychological war...

Obiouvsly something must be done to stop this exploit and exploiting behaviour, but i salute the creativity (all other stuff have been done already).
As said Nocti, his job is done, but other plz stop acting like if you were a vrgin discovering that war is sneaky.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gingerpussy on August 06, 2011, 01:10:55 pm
Well if we WIN this battle in pink lady dresses and straw hats then we beat the odds again. We already got 1:1 almost with naked men and no equipment against HRE.

Mercs wil fight naked, in pink dresses or worse.. and man i would not be in TkoV and BRD after that (WHO WOULD ?). WHAT A SHAME YOU HAVE TO LIVE with ???? Beaten even tho exploiting and abusing.... we will prevail
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: espooo on August 06, 2011, 01:12:00 pm
Well if we WIN this battle in pink lady dresses and straw hats then we beat the odds again. We already got 1:1 almost with naked men and no equipment against HRE.

Mercs wil fight naked, in pink dresses or worse.. and man i would not be in TkoV and BRD after that (WHO WOULD ?). WHAT A SHAME YOU HAVE TO LIVE with ???? Beaten even tho exploiting and abusing.... we will prevail

Swallow your pride.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lizard_man on August 06, 2011, 01:25:29 pm
Mercs discovering what is war?
Or are you upset because you didn't find yourself this trick?
Seems Mercs win the war on battlefield and Brd win the psychological war...

Obiouvsly something must be done to stop this exploit and exploiting behaviour, but i salute the creativity (all other stuff have been done already).
As said Nocti, his job is done, but other plz stop acting like if you were a vrgin discovering that war is sneaky.

you really think that we would have used such a dirty trick, and what's this bullshit about saluting there creativity, i see nothing creative about this, as mentioned, if it were the mercs that had done this, it would be a different story, i doubt it would have gone unpunished, both sides have over 3000 troops, this could have been a really fun battle, instead they resort to something like this... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 06, 2011, 01:32:48 pm
Main posters in this thread - BRD, MERCS, BANDITS and VELUCA all spewing out general bullshit, best thing is, (I've said this loads of times) its fuckin beta, of course theres gonna be bugs, shouting out and crying ''BUBUBUBBUT THEY ABUUZED IT!!!! BANNNNNNNNNNNN! won't get you nowhere, you will just look like sore loosers.

So lets behave ourselfs before chadz regrets making strategus open....

Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 06, 2011, 01:37:39 pm
Swallow your pride.

I agree, there is no need for pride in this childish battle against childish enemies. I'm not saying it with arrogance or rage, but after having a good sleep I realized this is a childish battle and there is no need for flame war.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Matey on August 06, 2011, 01:42:10 pm
I agree, there is no need for pride in this childish battle against childish enemies. I'm not saying it with arrogance or rage, but after having a good sleep I realized this is a childish battle and there is no need for flame war.

no offense nocti, but saying theres no need for a flame war in the same post where you are calling us childish... practice what you preach my friend.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Spartan793 on August 06, 2011, 01:56:39 pm
no offense nocti, but saying theres no need for a flame war in the same post where you are calling us childish... practice what you preach my friend.

Saying theres no need for a flame war is not flaming itself, its trying to bring it to an end, just leave it there
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Matey on August 06, 2011, 01:59:34 pm
yeah but flaming in the same post where you are trying to end the flame war is kind of contradictory to the purposes of ending said flame war.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Blondin on August 06, 2011, 02:21:35 pm
Lizard i speak of creativity because nobody ever did this and a sneaky mind is needed to have this idea, which for me is creativity.

But plz don't be paranoid, things would be the same if mercs did it, there is no special rules against mercs. I can understand that you are a bit sensible because mercs were the target of many clans many times, i mean you don't need to flame on forum, mercs made the difference on the battlefield (i respect you for that).
I realy like your action in game and in battle but i dislike your reaction on forum (but who care what i think).
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: kastellan on August 06, 2011, 03:30:12 pm
What I really wonder is, how much all the retards and infantile idiots who said "Ho, what a clever trick, absolutely nice bug abusing, blah blah blah, how DARE you to punish bug abusing during BETA" would whine if this had happened to them.

I've read this whole thread and I am really angry now, cause to see so much stupidity and, much worse, this IMMENSE lack of empathy, makes my blood boil...... Mercs are fucked from all sides, and everyone else is happy that its not himself who stands in the devil's circle...

I just can whish you mercs all luck, stand your ground against this immorale assholes, show who's better on the battlefield... i am sure you are able to do it.

Ah, and his count berenger spamming asshole... will anybody be so nice to tell me how i can mute subjects like him in this forum? I just dont want to read his shit.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Jarlek on August 06, 2011, 03:37:05 pm
What I really wonder is, how much all the retards and infantile idiots who said "Ho, what a clever trick, absolutely nice bug abusing, blah blah blah, how DARE you to punish bug abusing during BETA" would whine if this had happened to them.

I've read this whole thread and I am really angry now, cause to see so much stupidity and, much worse, this IMMENSE lack of empathy, makes my blood boil...... Mercs are fucked from all sides, and everyone else is happy that its not himself who stands in the devil's circle...

I just can whish you mercs all luck, stand your ground against this immorale assholes, show who's better on the battlefield... i am sure you are able to do it.

Ah, and his count berenger spamming asshole... will anybody be so nice to tell me how i can mute subjects like him in this forum? I just dont want to read his shit.
Agree so fucking much.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Cepeshi on August 06, 2011, 03:47:11 pm
Main posters in this thread - BRD, MERCS, BANDITS and VELUCA all spewing out general bullshit, best thing is, (I've said this loads of times) its fuckin beta, of course theres gonna be bugs, shouting out and crying ''BUBUBUBBUT THEY ABUUZED IT!!!! BANNNNNNNNNNNN! won't get you nowhere, you will just look like sore loosers.

So lets behave ourselfs before chadz regrets making strategus open....

To be honest, this is utterly bullshit. I would love to see you being on the receiving side. As stated above, beta or not (gonna make the important part readable well for all you retards, who think this was master tactics), exploiting bugs instead of JUST reporting them is wrong.

If you do not see the difference between reporting and abusing, i pity you.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Casimir on August 06, 2011, 03:57:39 pm
We fought the uif which used many bugs and "unintended features" to gain an advantage.

No clan wide bans were handed out to them, none are needed now.

To be honest i think BRD are behaving in a very unsporting but the mercs responce has blown the situation to a new level.

Both sides need to stop analysing each other and consider your own behaviour.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Nihtgenga on August 06, 2011, 04:22:30 pm
What I really wonder is, how much all the retards and infantile idiots who said "Ho, what a clever trick, absolutely nice bug abusing, blah blah blah, how DARE you to punish bug abusing during BETA" would whine if this had happened to them.

I've read this whole thread and I am really angry now, cause to see so much stupidity and, much worse, this IMMENSE lack of empathy, makes my blood boil...... Mercs are fucked from all sides, and everyone else is happy that its not himself who stands in the devil's circle...

I just can whish you mercs all luck, stand your ground against this immorale assholes, show who's better on the battlefield... i am sure you are able to do it.

Ah, and his count berenger spamming asshole... will anybody be so nice to tell me how i can mute subjects like him in this forum? I just dont want to read his shit.

signed
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 06, 2011, 04:29:12 pm
Heh, mercs complaining about glitching and i join the last five minutes of the TKOV battle and I see this.

(click to show/hide)

I'd call that an exploit. At this point, i'd say both sides are so soiled that you know what, both of you should just shut up.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dehitay on August 06, 2011, 04:38:18 pm
What I really wonder is, how much all the retards and infantile idiots who said "Ho, what a clever trick, absolutely nice bug abusing, blah blah blah, how DARE you to punish bug abusing during BETA" would whine if this had happened to them.

I've read this whole thread and I am really angry now, cause to see so much stupidity and, much worse, this IMMENSE lack of empathy, makes my blood boil...... Mercs are fucked from all sides, and everyone else is happy that its not himself who stands in the devil's circle...

I just can whish you mercs all luck, stand your ground against this immorale assholes, show who's better on the battlefield... i am sure you are able to do it.

Ah, and his count berenger spamming asshole... will anybody be so nice to tell me how i can mute subjects like him in this forum? I just dont want to read his shit.
+1
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Voso on August 06, 2011, 04:41:45 pm
Heh, mercs complaining about glitching and i join the last five minutes of the TKOV battle and I see this.

(click to show/hide)

I'd call that an exploit. At this point, i'd say both sides are so soiled that you know what, both of you should just shut up.

Don't worry about it, I reported the bug in the bug reports section. Hopefully it will get handled and I am going to use your screenshot in the thread too by the way as it is better than the one I took.

Noctivigant, any chance of locking this thread to end the flaming?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tuonela on August 06, 2011, 04:42:31 pm
We managed to use most of those 1 item equipment but in the beginning many of our players with low-end computers crashed because of the massive amount of equipment. So yeah, it putted us in quite a disadvantage at the beginning.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 06, 2011, 04:45:47 pm
I couldnt select arbalest for 15minutes and steel bolts untill almost the end of the battle, I couldnt use most of the armor either.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 06, 2011, 04:52:07 pm
(click to show/hide)
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It looks like its selectable but no, you see the item but you cannot select it. I was unable to select my equipment at least 10 minutes, I heard it was also impossible to select siege shields, arbalests, arrows, bolts etc.

If anyone wants to try it, just buy shit loads of crap equipment in cRPG and try to select your own equipment in public servers. BRD and their mercs were a lot more careful this time, I wish you didn't do that item bomb.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Voso on August 06, 2011, 04:53:21 pm
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It looks like its selectable but no, you see the item but you cannot select it. I was unable to select my equipment at least 10 minutes, I heard it was also impossible to select siege shields, arbalests, arrows, bolts etc.

If anyone wants to try it, just buy shit loads of crap equipment in cRPG and try to select your own equipment in public servers. BRD and their mercs were a lot more careful this time, I wish you didn't do that item bomb.

It was actually a TKoV battle, and I agree I wish that equipment bomb hadn't happened either.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gristle on August 06, 2011, 05:01:07 pm
There are more clans involved than just The Mercs and BRD.  :wink:

It is a shame the equipment bomb happened (though the huge list of items itself is pretty funny). I was surprised when I read about it here. I look forward to having a fair and even battle one of these days.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Spartan793 on August 06, 2011, 05:23:43 pm
Hope now all thats done the whole bug exploiting thing will stop.

If not, it'l be a shame to see the community stoop so low
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 06, 2011, 05:26:45 pm
To be honest, this is utterly bullshit. I would love to see you being on the receiving side. As stated above, beta or not (gonna make the important part readable well for all you retards, who think this was master tactics), exploiting bugs instead of JUST reporting them is wrong.

If you do not see the difference between reporting and abusing, i pity you.

You say that and anders comes with a pic of what mercs are doing...

Seriously, I have been in the receiving side of bugs, I went to IRC, and I said Bullshit, and that was all, I didn't go to the Strategus General discussion and make a Thread about the bugs, many people know about what happened to us and alot of clans, I didn't try to make people pity me by crying on the forums.

Live with it, its beta.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Cepeshi on August 06, 2011, 05:45:36 pm
Live with it, its beta.

Yeah, typical. As long as it is beta, everyone can behave like a freaking bitch and glitch and abuse like hell, your argumentation fails man.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 06, 2011, 05:48:20 pm
To be honest, I have a better standing argument, I'm not biased, I'm not in this war, YOU are, so to be honest anything that you say is nill and probably over egarated.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: MrShine on August 06, 2011, 05:57:05 pm
Speaking for myself, if this is  considered an exploit/bug abuse situation (which given the fact the mercs couldn't access all of their equipment seems likely) then I do support temp banning whichever individuals were involved and hopefully this won't be practiced in the future before chadz & co can fix it.

What I and I think many people in this thread find ridiculous is the enormity of whining and unfounded accusations that are flying when it could have been a simple bug report issue in the bug report thread and this thread never needed to exist.  It's not the WHAT I take issue with, it's the HOW the issue was handled predominantly by some individuals in the mercs.  Just buckets of complaining in the beta strat makes you look just as bad as the people who abused this IMO.

Anyways, this battle is over, so can this thread die yet?

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Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Thick on August 06, 2011, 06:04:18 pm
It's called adversity. Learn to man up and overcome.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Cepeshi on August 06, 2011, 06:10:04 pm
To be honest, I have a better standing argument, I'm not biased, I'm not in this war, YOU are, so to be honest anything that you say is nill and probably over egarated.

To be honest you know shit man, i am in Bandits, yeah, but i am not involved in this, so get your facts straight before trying to be a smartass. And believe me, i would say the same if this happened in any other "battle", as how the fuck you dare to call this battling, when mostly it is decided by mischievous behavior, which is even NOT NEW in strat?

I do not think my affiliation to any faction here makes my arguments less weighted than yours. If you think so, it is useless to discuss with you any further.

Edit: Just fyi, dunno about others, but I personally do NOT browse bug reports sections on other ocassions that i want to report something and checking whether it was already reported or not. I do not find the fact this was posted here as stupid, actually, it was an attempt to make more players aware of this. On one side it can lead to some sort of "how to grief ur enemy" tutorial, but at least it should force the dev to deal with this faster.  :P
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dehitay on August 06, 2011, 06:26:01 pm
To be honest, I have a better standing argument, I'm not biased, I'm not in this war, YOU are, so to be honest anything that you say is nill and probably over egarated.
I'm part of the alliance fighting against the Merc alliance, so theoretically, I'm biased in favor anything that hurts the Mercs is ok. And yet, I still think anybody who thinks bug abusing shouldn't be punished just because this is a beta version is an idiot. And being "biased" against Mercs means my opinion is even more valid then yours.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Shpritza on August 06, 2011, 07:05:55 pm
I love BRD.

Ur an idiot then  :twisted:
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dexxtaa on August 06, 2011, 07:21:27 pm
Personal opinion on the matter. I do not represent my clan.
~
BRD.
This is disgusting.

Very poor war you're waging, BRD. The Mercenaries actions may be far from laudable, but what I've seen over the course of the conflict shows me very poor sportsmanship.

Even if the Mercs are being underhanded, at least they have the decency to keep it under the table.

That "The_Announcer" stunt made me cringe a little, to be honest. That was a very poorly made choice. How can you not think they can track your IP?

You are not making yourselves "an enemy to be reckoned with," as I imagine you're trying to do. You're making yourselves something that people are going to be extremely wary about going into an alliance with. I foresee explicit terms and conditions in your future pacts.

You've made a poor choice in antagonizing the Mercs with such arrogance. Chances of you ever forming an alliance with the Mercs are shot (and vice versa, obviously). Even when one of you are in your time of need (believe me it will come), the dirty, mud-slinging war you have both waged will end up with the one faction watching the the other burn.

If Strat goes into a hard reset, you will not ally with each other. This will not be a "Oh it's just that round of Strategus" event.

Merc knows how you work now, and they will be extremely reluctant to go into battle alongside you.
~

As for Merc, I've heard rumors and speculation of what you guys are doing, but from my knowledge of you has lead me to be less inclined (but still inclined) to believe so. I do not think you're holy and bathed in a white light, don't get me wrong. Some of the stuff you guys have done is definitely questionable (pronounce it "Def-IN-it-lee," it sounds way epic). And there are rumors of your operations under the table.

BRD are good people and capable fighters (I talk to them a lot and are on good terms with most of them), and I'm shocked to see them waging such an openly underhanded war. I hope you will keep to your standards of conduct, whichever way this conflict goes.

Whichever side I find myself on this conflict (as a result of the greater powers that be), I hope the best for you guys. If not against the wave that you face, at least against the vultures and mongrels that circle, hoping for your death to steal your assets (ha ha "assets").
~

Again, personal opinion only. I've been watching this conflict and being silent far too long.

This is based on what I've seen and read and heard. My personal relations with either clan does not hold sway on what I've said.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: BADPLAYERold on August 06, 2011, 08:03:48 pm
I think you take this game a bit too seriously.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: robert_namo on August 06, 2011, 08:07:10 pm
This is why things will get wiped. I hope everyone is happy about themselves.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: ABCF on August 06, 2011, 08:59:39 pm
Dear BIRD CLAN,

How thoroughly disgusted I am with your actions.  At every turn you manage to undermine the game and find new ways to ruin the distinguishing features of cRPG.  I, along with many others, have had enough.  The following of this letter was drafted with the help of other clan members and leaders:

BIRD CLAN, as of now you have committed heavy acts of breaking from character.  If you were unaware, RPG is short for Role Playing Game.  You have done nothing but act like a modern putz, the kind that don't belong in the world of Calradia.  We give you two options:

1. QUIT:  As the samurai did to retain great honor, commit account seppuku and leave us.  We will not look down upon your leaving and we agree that it took respect for the game and courage.

2.  CHANGE YOUR WAYS:  We all believe someone can become someone else, is that not the reason we play this game to be someone new?  We believe you can be an integral part of this community but change only starts with you.

3.  AN APOLOGY:  No matter your choice, we would like an apology.  You have wasted much of our time on and off the game.  We make time to play our Strategus battles, we make sacrifices to participate, and your hijinks make it all go to waste.

If you do not meet any of our terms then we will have to forcibly remove.  The database intrusion is happening from somewhere and we have no issue saying "Whoever you are, ban all BIRD CLAN members from the database."

Until your decide, roost in your tower, BIRD CLAN.  My men are hungry and this War of Crows will surely drop much meat for them to feast on.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Dunecat on August 06, 2011, 09:02:11 pm
BIRD CLAN.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 06, 2011, 09:03:11 pm
That "The_Announcer" stunt made me cringe a little, to be honest. That was a very poorly made choice. How can you not think they can track your IP?

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,12684.0.html

Blackrose is BRD?

Or... did everyone miss that and jumped to conclusions as usual?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Gristle on August 06, 2011, 09:04:59 pm
Even if the Mercs are being underhanded, at least they have the decency to keep it under the table.

This is a very odd opinion to me. I want to talk hypothetical here, general terms, and not related to whatever is going on in this specific war. I'm not one of the intel guys that sees everything going on around the strat map. I'm just a player that joins battles when he can and maybe gets to enjoy some fancy text when I join a server.

Everyone uses underhanded tactics in war. That's just how it is. Only a fool enters a fair fight. How can one be decent while being underhanded? If Opponent A is openly using "cheap" tactics to fight, while Opponent B tries to keep their "cheap" tactics in the shadows, how is one more decent than the other? One is punching you in the face while the other is kicking you in the back. Both are dirty, but should be expected. When you're in a war, neither side comes out clean. Am I misreading this? I'll admit I'm pretty tired and probably going back to sleep after posting this.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Darkkarma on August 06, 2011, 09:24:39 pm
While I completely disagree with Dex in that being openly underhanded is any way worse than doing it "Under the table", I do agree that we should do our parts on both sides of the pond to keep these wars as clean as possible. I hate to see two very large, powerful respectable clans drag each other through the mud like this.

Best wishes, lads.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: DrKronic on August 06, 2011, 09:26:40 pm
I have fought at these battles and there is no leadership involved in such heinous actions from what PxC has observed, I have seen the mercs hide behind invisible barriers multiple times though, but if Chaos wants to believe baseless accusations............
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Darkkarma on August 06, 2011, 09:31:23 pm
We've stated a couple times in this thread that the opinions stated are in no way a reflection of the faction's opinions on this issue. In any case, what "baseless accusations" are you speaking of, exactly?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 06, 2011, 09:35:56 pm
I enjoyed the last fight alot, 200ping and fog with which I couldnt see 5 meters infront of me, I dced, and fog is a bitch for a xbowman, I can only hit anything with sniping enemy ranged that doesnt move , at close range I have to aim like 5 seconds infront of time to hit anything, what surprises is that some 9 months ago when I hanged around in NA servers as HA I was capable of getting great kill streaks and didnt have a problem facing Gash and other NA HAs in a HA duel, now I cant hit anything that moves, did NA servers change location? I even get the bolt flying out of my xbow animation, I jump away only to see bolt still in my xbow..
And im slowly seeing that point that these fights are just a goddamn pile of bullshit, makes me want to fight euros again, this is far from fun for both sides.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Different on August 06, 2011, 09:36:51 pm
I enjoyed the last fight alot, 200ping and fog with which I couldnt see 5 meters infront of me, I dced, and fog is a bitch for a xbowman, I can only hit anything with sniping enemy ranged, at close range I have to aim like 5 seconds infront of time to hit anything, what surprises is that some 9 months ago when I hanged around in NA servers as HA I was capable of getting great kill streaks and didnt have a problem facing Gash and other NA HAs in a HA duel, now I cant hit anything that moves, did NA servers change location? I even get the bolt flying out of my xbow animation, I jump away only to see bolt still in my xbow..
And im slowly seeing that point that these fights are just a goddamn pile of bullshit, makes me want to fight euros again.

same here

I think spilt it is the best solution for both sides

Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kaelaen on August 06, 2011, 09:38:03 pm
Look there's a simple answer to all this: We need to go to Texas and sabotage Kalam's relationship with his girlfriend.  How dare he prioritize real life over his internet comrades.  How dare he...

Also Mtemtko yes the server not only moved, but changed owners.  You're used to playing on the Chicago Illinois server, which is closer to Europe than where the official servers are now, which is in Dallas Texas.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Matey on August 06, 2011, 09:50:49 pm
Look there's a simple answer to all this: We need to go to Texas and sabotage Kalam's relationship with his girlfriend.  How dare he prioritize real life over his internet comrades.  How dare he...

Also Mtemtko yes the server not only moved, but changed owners.  You're used to playing on the Chicago Illinois server, which is closer to Europe than where the official servers are now, which is in Dallas Texas.

actually i think they moved the new servers to chicago recently... sooo its the same. maybe that why im doing well now? no more 110 ping on the NA servers lol
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Mtemtko on August 06, 2011, 09:53:50 pm
actually i think they moved the new servers to chicago recently... sooo its the same. maybe that why im doing well now? no more 110 ping on the NA servers lol

I used to have a stable 160 ping on NA 120man server (or 80), now its jumping from 200 to 450..  With 160 I could actually block NORMAL swings (feints too but I cant block normal swings with 200ping, same with the bolt animation, I see my sword blocking, nothing happens in reality, they just go through) So it must be a different server.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kaelaen on August 06, 2011, 10:26:20 pm
actually i think they moved the new servers to chicago recently... sooo its the same. maybe that why im doing well now? no more 110 ping on the NA servers lol

Is your ping at 50 or below?  Because if not, then it's not Chicago because mine is still 50 or below.  I live waay too far from Chicago to get anything less than 70.  Granted, when Ecko gave LLJK a server in Texas I got 120 ping for some reason so who knows.  Goretooth gets 30ish ping in Chicago, and before the official Texas servers went down he got like 15 ping.  Now that they're back he's getting like 9.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: partyboy on August 06, 2011, 10:49:16 pm
Dear BIRD CLAN,

How thoroughly disgusted I am with your actions.  At every turn you manage to undermine the game and find new ways to ruin the distinguishing features of cRPG.  I, along with many others, have had enough.  The following of this letter was drafted with the help of other clan members and leaders:

BIRD CLAN, as of now you have committed heavy acts of breaking from character.  If you were unaware, RPG is short for Role Playing Game.  You have done nothing but act like a modern putz, the kind that don't belong in the world of Calradia.  We give you two options:

1. QUIT:  As the samurai did to retain great honor, commit account seppuku and leave us.  We will not look down upon your leaving and we agree that it took respect for the game and courage.

2.  CHANGE YOUR WAYS:  We all believe someone can become someone else, is that not the reason we play this game to be someone new?  We believe you can be an integral part of this community but change only starts with you.

3.  AN APOLOGY:  No matter your choice, we would like an apology.  You have wasted much of our time on and off the game.  We make time to play our Strategus battles, we make sacrifices to participate, and your hijinks make it all go to waste.

If you do not meet any of our terms then we will have to forcibly remove.  The database intrusion is happening from somewhere and we have no issue saying "Whoever you are, ban all BIRD CLAN members from the database."

Until your decide, roost in your tower, BIRD CLAN.  My men are hungry and this War of Crows will surely drop much meat for them to feast on.

I ACCEPT!  PISTOLS AT DAWN
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 06, 2011, 10:57:47 pm
Lizard i speak of creativity because nobody ever did this and a sneaky mind is needed to have this idea, which for me is creativity.

This is no new bug. This bug was used in last strat as well.

Also to people who say this is a beta and its ok. This mod always have been a beta and i think chadz even said it will always be a beta. In old strat people were punished for these same 'new found' bugs that are popping up now.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Babelfish on August 06, 2011, 11:44:45 pm
You say that and anders comes with a pic of what mercs are doing...

Seriously, I have been in the receiving side of bugs, I went to IRC, and I said Bullshit, and that was all, I didn't go to the Strategus General discussion and make a Thread about the bugs, many people know about what happened to us and alot of clans, I didn't try to make people pity me by crying on the forums.

Live with it, its beta.

Generally speaking, templars has been known in the past for being the biggest criers.
 Two situations comes to mind.

1. Crusade against 22nd.
2. Someone deleted the templars rooster with a spy.


=)

 
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: rubicon_crossed on August 06, 2011, 11:49:39 pm
Why hasn't this flamefest been locked yet?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 07, 2011, 12:16:03 am
Why hasn't this flamefest been locked yet?

Even if it should be locked what about the flamefest going on in my inbox. There are messages from BRD and Blackrose members, which I didn't even find a logical reason to reply. its pretty much like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7NeSGggF7Y

You guys can't stop amazing me.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Matey on August 07, 2011, 12:39:29 am
Even if it should be locked what about the flamefest going on in my inbox. There are messages from BRD and Blackrose members, which I didn't even find a logical reason to reply. its pretty much like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7NeSGggF7Y

You guys can't stop amazing me.

forward some of these messages from any FCC, I don't like flaming in public or in private messages, I'd be happy to talk to anyone who has been sending nasty notes.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Jarlek on August 07, 2011, 12:43:08 am
forward some of these messages from any FCC, I don't like flaming in public or in private messages, I'd be happy to talk to anyone who has been sending nasty notes.
Fuck that. Post them in public. I wanna read all the rage :D (yes I get off to it :P)
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Brother_Morr on August 07, 2011, 01:41:09 am
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Fuck that. Post them in public. I wanna read all the rage :D (yes I get off to it :P)

Aye i agree with this man... Not the getting off part but still. where are these letter of Hate that you have received?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 07, 2011, 03:48:57 am
forward some of these messages from any FCC, I don't like flaming in public or in private messages, I'd be happy to talk to anyone who has been sending nasty notes.

Just please tell SOME of your clan mates and associates stop sending me flame messages that's all, I absolutely don't mind forum trolling, I'm also not that innocent after all. You may start from Espoo and Sittingbull. It seems to me that they were having too much fun and lost it.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Earthdforce on August 07, 2011, 03:53:07 am
Just please tell SOME of your clan mates and associates stop sending me flame messages that's all (snip)
Obvious lie is obvious.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 07, 2011, 03:53:48 am
Obvious lie is obvious.

Get off your high horse you stuck up bastard. No one cares what kind of K/D you got, nor any of your members. None of what you just said means anything to me. BlackRose isn't a mercenary company, we were just mercing because we, at the time, needed a bit more cash to fund our conquests.

And his conquest was over within 2 hours after this message
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Earthdforce on August 07, 2011, 03:56:33 am
And his conquest was over within 2 hours after this message
Derr..where's the flame?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 07, 2011, 03:59:46 am
Derr..where's the flame?

He was accusing me by not paying. I told him gold transfer and K:D ratio doesn't work. I tried to explain how the general system runs and he shouldn't expect 500g for 1K:15D ratio. Then he started to call me stuck up bastard etc. That was our final conversation. No need to mention one of their member is banned for multi accounts. He was trying to encourage people to attack us and went down in flames.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Earthdforce on August 07, 2011, 04:03:38 am
He was accusing me by not paying. I told him gold transfer and K:D ratio doesn't work. I tried to explain how the general system runs and he shouldn't expect 500g for 1K:15D ratio. Then he started to call me stuck up bastard etc. That was our final conversation. No need to mention one of their member is banned for multi accounts. He was trying to encourage people to attack us and went down in flames.
Can you prove these allegations? All I can tell by your so-called "real" private message is that SittingBull doesn't give a damn what you think.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 07, 2011, 04:08:25 am
Can you prove these allegations? All I can tell by your so-called "real" private message is that SittingBull doesn't give a damn what you think.

Get an admin to check my inbox and if I'm lying get me punished for it. I'd much prefer I talk to Matey and Kalam and nobody else, same goes for them. Just talk to me (if there is anything to talk) and ignore the rest. If there is an important issue like glitching I make it public, so everybody knows. But if its not the case I can promise to not make another forum post.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Matey on August 07, 2011, 04:10:00 am
yeah drop it earthd. Sittingbull had his issue with you, I don't see why he wouldn't be communicating with you in private about that kind of thing. As for members of FCC, just forward me messages and I can deal with it.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Callous on August 07, 2011, 04:43:01 am
I don't see reasons for punishment. It's only beta.

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Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: SittingBull on August 07, 2011, 04:51:38 am
Just please tell SOME of your clan mates and associates stop sending me flame messages that's all, I absolutely don't mind forum trolling, I'm also not that innocent after all. You may start from Espoo and Sittingbull. It seems to me that they were having too much fun and lost it.

What the hell are you talking about? You're the one who PM'ed me. Shall I post our conversation?

if you had a little knowledge of strategus you'd know that K:D and Gold transfer is not working after the battle. If you are planning to pay for the troops tomorrow it wont work. Plus one of your men was wasting my tickets 1K:15D with 40 ping last time I checked him in tadsamesh.
Learn the system first, then come and lecture me.

There check it yourself
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Wouldn't really matter, you said you weren't going to pay either way because we were 'wasting your tickets'. Pfft. BS. So one of my members had a bad run, that doesn't mean they were intentionally running into shit to get killed. We're not that low, we weren't planning on attacking you at all at the time you hired us as mercs.

So, thanks for telling me this, it's informative. But, you need to get your facts straight too.

We started mercenary company idea on strat

I tell you, if you have these "bad runs" often you dont get hired at all or get paid. We used to score like 300K:10D in 2010 strat thats why I could ask 2000 gold per merc player.

Get off your high horse you stuck up bastard. No one cares what kind of K/D you got, nor any of your members. None of what you just said means anything to me. BlackRose isn't a mercenary company, we were just mercing because we, at the time, needed a bit more cash to fund our conquests.


Stop pretending like I'm constantly harassing you personally on PM's. Go cry in the corner while you wait in frustration for your balls to drop.

PS. I wouldn't have gotten on your shit that last message had you not gotten stuck up again. Claiming Mercs started the mercing clan idea (Even if this is true, why the hell would I care?) and then bragging about your members KD's and how much you could charge (again, I'm not interested in your pompous attitude on a PM).
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Nihtgenga on August 07, 2011, 05:28:48 am
well, if I may say, you (sittingbull) are calling him (nocti) a bastard. he on the other hand didnt insult you at all.

dont know why you posted that conversation because it makes you look bad actually

and him telling you that they were the first mercs, does make sence at somepoint, hes just trying to tell you, that they have some experience which might be interesting for you.
he just points out that you wont get hired in future if you bring bad results
(example...dont have guys getting a 1:15 ratio)
and at the end of the day, kd ratio matters alot in strategus
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: SittingBull on August 07, 2011, 05:35:29 am
SittingBull doesn't give a damn what you think.

 :wink:

Yeah, I called him a bastard. Sue me. God, it's like the community has suddenly become all proper and insulting anyone is a major crime against humanity.

And I realize KD matters in Strat, when did I say it didn't? I just made it fairly clear that I didn't care what kind of KDs his members got in the old strat. Where's the problem?  :|
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Nihtgenga on August 07, 2011, 05:49:43 am
well you realize that kd matters in strat but you get angry if they wont pay with a kd ration of 1:15?
thats the problem
especially as you guys were the only ones asking for payment (besides the two failes from merc acadamy members)

well I dont know about NA servers but yeah, insulting and calling someone a bastard is not common on EU servers.
trolling yes, but actually insulting? do you really see nothing wrong with this? usually this gives you a ban in other communities. and if it is a "crime against humanity" in this case is not your choice but nocti`s
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: SittingBull on August 07, 2011, 05:58:14 am
well you realize that kd matters in strat but you get angry if they wont pay with a kd ration of 1:15?
especially as you guys were the only ones asking for payment (besides the two failes from merc acadamy members)

Again, I'm not getting on his case because he didn't pay us. That was long done with by the time these PM's went up. He didn't pay, oh well, that was long before BlackRose entered the war with them. I got angry that, once more, Noctivant showed that he can't go five seconds without getting completely sucked up with himself (These PMs occured the same day that whole 'And now they show their true colors' thread, right after I posted my post on the second page of that thread).

Also, they offered us money for our mercing services, they set the prices. It's not like we went to them asking them if they would pay us for our merc services. One of our guys didn't do well apparently, then they claim we were intentionally wasting their tickets - completely bogus. We didn't merc for them again after that. I would have been completely fine if they offered to pay much less for the member who had a bad KD. But you don't hire mercs, then tell them they're not getting crap because one guy had a bad run. Don't even attempt to tell me you think that's reasonable.


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well I dont know about NA servers but yeah, insulting and calling someone a bastard is not common EU servers.
trolling yes, but actually insulting? do you really see nothing wrong with this? usually this gives you a ban in other communities

I'm civil to those whose companies I enjoy, that even includes enemies. The one type of person that gets to me is the person who is so far up his own ass that he can't see the light. Why should I even attempt to be gentlemanly to a man who has that type of personality (nay, a clan), and on top of that, one that breaks a deal? 
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Cyclopsided on August 07, 2011, 06:02:10 am
This is an awful thread, a brief skim made me think less of pretty much everyone arguing within it.
IDK, I see all this funny abuse (from both sides) as good motivation for those issues to be fixed when updated strategus comes out.
You guys do realize the strat you're playing is a fun thing to do, to play around in as it will get wiped soon anyways?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Earthdforce on August 07, 2011, 06:27:03 am
yeah drop it earthd.
Derp, unnecessary. If you have a problem with me either kick me out or pm me, mkay?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Wiegraf_BRD on August 07, 2011, 07:52:12 am
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I do not go on vent anymore, nor do I really play this game.  So I cannot confirm or not if BRD or FCC are being fruitcakes and hackers or whatever they're being accused of.

Just know, that if I were still playing, your little clan would be wiped out from all servers. In fact, the entire map would already belong to Wiegr... err, FCC.

Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Jarlek on August 07, 2011, 02:03:36 pm
@Sitting Bull: You didn't get paid because the payment system doesn't work. You got it now?
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Elerion on August 07, 2011, 02:29:39 pm
@Sitting Bull: You didn't get paid because the payment system doesn't work. You got it now?
That is no excuse. There are multiple working methods to transfer gold.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Cepeshi on August 07, 2011, 02:41:04 pm
That is no excuse. There are multiple working methods to transfer gold.

Strategus gold transfers are a bitch as you have to be in close range, so ...
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Odion on August 07, 2011, 03:00:07 pm
That item spam is really pathetic.

Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Keshian on August 07, 2011, 03:09:47 pm
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I do not go on vent anymore, nor do I really play this game.  So I cannot confirm or not if BRD or FCC are being fruitcakes and hackers or whatever they're being accused of.

Just know, that if I were still playing, your little clan would be wiped out from all servers. In fact, the entire map would already belong to Wiegr... err, FCC.

Wiegraf, dammit, don't tell them who the secret leader of the FCC is who has been behind everything, now they will try and assasinate you. 

Also, +1 Sitting Bull.  All they had to do was transfer gold to their village and then over to you (wide radius of transfer around villages) and they could have paid their mercenaries.  Kind of strange to see a clan that "started mercenary company idea on strat" doesn't even know to pay their mercenaries.

FYI: Having a 30 page whine thread everytime we do something you don't like on Strategus is gettign pretty funny (how old are you guys).  If you'll notice every glitch you've done we just do a simple post on bug reports to see it get fixed and no 30 page thread trying to discredit you as "backstabbers" or "meanies" or whatever you want to call us.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Jarlek on August 07, 2011, 04:34:00 pm
That is no excuse. There are multiple working methods to transfer gold.
Yes, because everyone is next to each other on strat, right? I don't really care about exactly HOW they could pay them anyway, but just wanted to point out to him that the payment system doesn't work right now and that's why the mercs couldn't pay them, doing it manyally by transfering would be a complete bitch. Also, there's no reason to go around -ing a post that just tries to point out things to make it clearer for everyone. Now grow up everyone.

EDIT: ALso it's not multiple working methods to transfer gold. Only two in totall (payment and transfer) and only transfering is working right now.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Noctivagant on August 07, 2011, 07:11:50 pm
I'm sorry didn't I pay 1000000 (a million) cRPG gold to goRN_the_Grey?, and several more people. Today I'm going to pay several 100.000 to some other players. The point is, you did not play well at all and you absolutely do not deserve a single cent with that K:D ratio. I told you in a PM if you insist getting paid for horrible K:D ratio and start calling everyone with names who refuses to pay you for your horrible performance, you simply ruin your reputation. I still strongly believe you guys were fighting for BRD in that battle and it was I who refused to pay you.
Ask yourself why other people are getting paid shit loads of money from me and why you get nothing?

1 you had an absolute bs performance, even lvl 15 players were asking 500 gold.
2 you chose to curse at me in pms
3 after that you tried to settle in dhirim area
4 your member made a double account just to encourage other people to attack us

Do you really think you are entitled to teach me Mercenary system or speak of keeping words and shit? Do you seriously think that I'd mind paying you 5000 gold in total if you had a decent performance? I spend 200K in a battle plus extra hundreds of thousands of gold.

You just didn't ruin your reputation and you made me your enemy. Therefore I took your fief and left you no home no money noob. Don't like it? go cry to someone else then. People are abusing bugs here and coming and telling me how wrong to not to pay 500g per bunch of bad players.

You guys are just AMAZING

P.S Plus telling people that we gonna side with someone to take em out of the map, just to get troops from them is even more amazing. Applause people applause.  just give me -1s like I give a damn about it.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: SittingBull on August 08, 2011, 03:37:20 am
I still strongly believe you guys were fighting for BRD in that battle and it was I who refused to pay you.

Again with this? We had zero relations with FCC before the war started, they just payed for our mercing services. Me thinks someone's a bit paranoid.

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1 you had an absolute bs performance, even lvl 15 players were asking 500 gold.

One of my members did. Oh well, don't hire him again, get over it. Only three of my guys signed up for your fight from what I saw. You act like we all went in there, then threw the fight so that FCC would win or something horrendously stupid like that.

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2 you chose to curse at me in pms

I'm sure you cried yourself to sleep about that one.  :lol:

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3 after that you tried to settle in dhirim area

After that we made a deal with the FCC. Before that, we had noooo intention of getting involved in whatever feud was in that area, we had our eyes set elsewhere.

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4 your member made a double account just to encourage other people to attack us

Yeah, and then the moron got banned for being a moron. I had absolutely no idea one of my members did that until he mentioned it the next day (after he was banned). And really, you think that one forum post rallied the foreign troops against you or something?  :rolleyes:

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Do you really think you are entitled to teach me Mercenary system or speak of keeping words and shit?

What??? When the hell did I try and teach you about mercing?  :shock: And yeah, I can talk about keeping ones word. I've never broken mine when a deal or guarantee was made.
Title: Re: List of bugs BRD and their alliances expoliting
Post by: Kalam on August 08, 2011, 04:10:22 am
This has gone on long enough.