What s the next step?
Everytime something gets too buffed or too nerfed, I blame the community for making fail biased threads or posts and creating messes...
We do get what we ask for... Scary when you think about it...
/me goes on another game
Good thing you are not whining.
To be frank, the normal battle server archers do need a slight buff because of the dynamics of the goals (you have limited time!) and usually the maps (at leat on NA) are town based which hurts archers.
But on Strategus its becoeming pretty obvious that archers still are oevrly powerful in a situation where there is NO TIME LIMIT (attackers should only have an hour before having to regroup and try attacking again) and the only real objective in very wide open maps is to kill the most tags. So the teams that are doing best are the ones that are 40-60% xbowers and archers, which is kind of boring but highly effective.
/me goes on another game
At least i dont ask you to nerf other people because they kill meNo, you are asking for your class to be buffed because apparently you can't kill them.
At least i dont ask you to nerf other people because they kill me
No, you are asking for your class to be buffed because apparently you can't kill them.
Difference? Can't spot it.
Edit: To clarify, I have no idea how archers currently work, if they are OP or UP or whatever. I just think that the original post is so retarded in whining about whining that I just can't resist.
Also i don't think my post was whining... or maybe we dont have the same definition.
Pretty okay troll, but only 7/10 for putting too much effort into it
No, you are asking for your class to be buffed because apparently you can't kill them.
Difference? Can't spot it.
Edit: To clarify, I have no idea how archers currently work, if they are OP or UP or whatever. I just think that the original post is so retarded in whining about whining that I just can't resist.
I think archery was fine before it was nerfed this patch.Archery was not fine because of Strategus mostly. Do you remember the first Strat? Most of the battles were decided by archers, infantry being only a support class, especially on EU servers. Even after the last nerf I see some clans hiring like 50% of archers for Strategus battles which makes those battles more "pew-pew" than "chop-chop".
Now, heirloomed crossbows and bows don't have an added speed bonus. I don't think that's fair, considering all the others do.
It's Mount & Blade not Mount & Ranged.
It's Mount & Blade not Mount & Ranged.
well chadz, it s just that i played a lot, i have 2 MW bows that dont even sell at 1M on market place.Another bonus that bows have is that you can move while preparing the next arrow.
Just compare to the stats of the crossbows...
Horn Bow Crossbow
missile speed: 37 + PD6 mean 12% in speed max = 41.44 missile speed: 52 (crossbow faster) Crossbow has more force so the bolts should be faster.
weight: 1.3 weight: 3
accuracy: 97 accuracy: 92 (need not as much in wpf anyway) I used to be a crossbow man and wpf makes a huge difference. You can`t hit shit from long range without at least 100 wpf.
speed rating: 63 (+modified by wpf) speed rating: 28 Here is the bonus of the bow, it is x 2.25 faster than the xbow, and that is with 1 wpf in archery.
difficulty: 15 difficulty: 10
thrust damage: 24 cut (5-6*12%, mean 38 or 41 cut damage) thrust damage: 54 pierce Crossbow has more force so it should be deal more damage.
slots: 1
Joking aside, I made an STF archer alt, it wasn't THAT unplayable, but it feelt kinda limited though.
STF's don't mean much because you didn't spend the time grinding levels as a peasant. As an archer you don't become useful till 25+ levels. Otherwise you're just cannon fodder or a bouncing machine.
Same is true for melee.
Well, you can get kills via backstabs, but taking someone face-to-face is really hard until 25-26.
Archery was not fine because of Strategus mostly. Do you remember the first Strat? Most of the battles were decided by archers, infantry being only a support class, especially on EU servers. Even after the last nerf I see some clans hiring like 50% of archers for Strategus battles which makes those battles more "pew-pew" than "chop-chop".
But you know that wouldn't be so bad except for the UTTER AND COMPLETE BULLSHIT that are the crush through and stun weapons. This is so utterly OP and nobody seems to even have a problem with it.Umm, quite a few of us have problems with those two mechanics. In fact just barely browsing the forums I see a number of threads about those issues. Have you tried the search feature?
good riddance to me right?
I'm really tired that the dev listen to the cry baby that yell for a nerf, because they cant time to LEARN THE FING GAME
Now, let's see if Skurcey really quits the game. If yes, well no problem. If no, super whine fail.