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Title: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on July 26, 2011, 06:56:00 pm
I was looking for a new model for the (aweful) Black Armor. In the screenshot threat of the mod 'Age of Change' on page 7 (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=116411.90 (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=116411.90)) I found this 'Elmetto Field Armor' which looks pretty good in my Opinion and I wanted to suggest to replace current Black Armor by the Elmetto Black Armor (there are lot of more armors and helmets in the threat, just have a look arround!)

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 an equal helmet to the Elmetto Armor would be the 'Close Helm' which can be found on page 6 of the threat:

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I already PM'ed the moderator who posted the pictures of the 'new Black Armor' he told me he would release the files for using in cRPG but only if chadz himself asks for it..

Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on July 26, 2011, 07:04:07 pm
to remind you: thats what the current black armor looks like:

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Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 26, 2011, 07:13:16 pm
Yes, but only if the shoulder....

Current one looks so gay fantasy like...
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Huey Newton on July 26, 2011, 07:14:04 pm
i actually like the asymetrical look

Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Xol! on July 26, 2011, 07:23:42 pm
There was another set of black armor someone made for the Age of Change II mod.  Figured I should mention it here.  This one is a recolor of Milanese, without the rondels.  There's also matching black shynbaulds and some sort of hand armor:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: POOPHAMMER on July 26, 2011, 07:23:56 pm
The black armour would lose its magical touch if it looked nice

i vote no
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Lichen on July 26, 2011, 07:32:08 pm
100% yes. And no people don't 'equalize' the shoulder. I'm pretty sure that's historically accurate design which is to take more hits on the left side of your shoulder while your right side (weapon hand) is more mobile. The armor is perfect. 

I looked at it after brightening up the pic to see the detail better and it's 100% great. I would even suggest it to replace the 'heavy armor' and have the "Utili Field Armor" from that mod as the new 'black armor' but either way I don't care. It's excellent. 100% yes. The helm is great too.

i actually like the asymetrical look
Same here. It's cool and unique.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: _JoG_ on July 26, 2011, 07:32:48 pm
Yes, but only if the shoulder....
The shoulder is OK, it's a cavalryman's armor after all. Left shoulder piece was often reinforced because it had to withstand the lance clash.
The helmet also seems to be OK, maybe a bit too late for the period, but I'm not sure.


PS Jesus, there's a lot of excellent plate armor sets in that mod. ME WANTZ A DOPPELSOLDNER ARMOR FOR MY SPAMBERGE NAO!!!111 (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8172/dopel1.png)
PPS Hmmm... It looks like some of them are only the retextured versions of Narf's models...
PPPS Hmmmmm... I definitely saw some models (with different textures) in other mods such as Rus XIII Century and I know their author.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: hotcobbler on July 26, 2011, 07:36:48 pm
Yes, don't equalize, looks more accurate that way.

Also, I would prefer the second set proposed by Xolvern if that is an option. It looks even better.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on July 26, 2011, 07:48:53 pm
There was another set of black armor someone made for the Age of Change II mod.  Figured I should mention it here.  I don't know if anyone has asked the creator if cRPG can use it, though.  It looks like a recolor of Milanese, without the rondels.  There's also matching black shynbaulds and some sort of hand armor:

(click to show/hide)

 its no cool new black armor its just darkened milanese..and i wrote that i did ask the moderator who published the armor already, chadz just needs to PM him
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: MrShovelFace on July 26, 2011, 07:50:18 pm
DO IT DO IT AND MAKE GORETOOTH CRY
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Tot. on July 26, 2011, 08:53:55 pm
Anything is better than the current tbh.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Patricia on July 26, 2011, 09:46:05 pm
Textures made in Paint.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: D_the_Barbarian on July 26, 2011, 09:51:42 pm
Replace the ugliness of the black armor, when i see somebody wearing black armor my eyeballs vomit, causing permanent damage to my brain.
Xol's armor that he suggested is better than the OP's so they should use that.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on July 27, 2011, 12:05:14 am
when i see flull black armor + heavy gauntlets + shrink head armet my penis starts to shrink as i would jump into cold water :D

IMPLEMENT IT!!! :P
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Jacko on July 27, 2011, 12:14:53 am
Yes to the one Xolvern posted!
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Lichen on July 27, 2011, 12:17:21 am
Yes to the one Xolvern posted!
That's just darkened milanese.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Gumdrawp on July 27, 2011, 01:15:11 am
dear god yes, anything that makes it look like im not wearing a something my 1994 inkjet printed.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: v/onMega on July 27, 2011, 12:02:52 pm
Voted yes.

The proposed armor surely is a huge step forward.

Taking the price and upkeep into account, even the proposed, new model looks way to shabby ;-)

But no sweat, replacing black armor model was proposed ages ago, nothing happend.

As much as I appreciate this thread, I am sure the effective change will be none :-)


Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: The_Angle on July 27, 2011, 12:19:49 pm
I've always wondered why they let the Black armour have such a crappy texture, looks like early PS2 graphics.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Tzar on July 27, 2011, 12:46:01 pm
chadz prefers the mod being ugly dunno why since their are plenty of nice looking armors to pick from then some of the current ones  :lol:
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: cmp on July 27, 2011, 12:50:49 pm
+1
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: NuberT on July 27, 2011, 12:55:18 pm
As far as I know chadz has nothing to do with the items, blame Fasader instead :D
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: AntiBlitz on July 27, 2011, 12:59:43 pm
Guilty by association.........it is his mod.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on July 27, 2011, 01:43:45 pm
i hath some questions: who is Fasader and what is his work exactly and IF he is responsible for most pre stoneage armors why we don't hang him? :D
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Remy on July 27, 2011, 02:24:05 pm
Please!
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on July 27, 2011, 02:25:16 pm
I want this. I also want many, many other armors from different mods and what not.

But, wrong forum. See suggestions forum :D
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on July 27, 2011, 03:34:58 pm
Quote

I actually thought it very appropriate given the sheer kick-ass-ness of this mod. You're doing great Zimke! Keep up the good work.

BTW: could I use some of your models when this is released? I'm making Ancient Egypt mod.

If you read some of the other topics you would have seen this, the responce


Quote
Sorry chimera_t, but we are not going to share any of our models or textures after release, we have other plans with them.


:/
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Momo on July 27, 2011, 03:46:09 pm
The current black armor is ugly, so I support the new one.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on July 27, 2011, 03:55:51 pm
Looks cool, and ive played Age of Change (has number 2 been releasewd yet??)

And the detail on armour and weapons is exceptionally good.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Logen on July 27, 2011, 03:57:53 pm
Its really much better than that piece of old shit we got now.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on July 27, 2011, 04:40:41 pm
hardness killer, i PMed the team, they would give it for cRPG if chadz asks. its he third time i say this now..
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on July 27, 2011, 04:47:29 pm
Hmm its just wierd first they say no then yes...
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on July 27, 2011, 04:51:12 pm
the threats there are pretty old, i dont know exactly when they are from and im too lazy to have a look at it now :P

but i asked for permission of course :*
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Kenji on September 02, 2011, 09:48:02 am
*Casts Greater Thread Resurrection*

At least add the helmet? I can hardly find anything suitable for Black Armor.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Warcat on September 02, 2011, 10:17:14 am
I'm fine with the helmet, but when people go around in silly armor, they should look silly. An armor as mighty as Black Armor should not look like an armor fit for mere mortals.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Darkula on September 02, 2011, 10:22:37 am
There's so many beautiful armours and weapons made by modders. We could add much more new models.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Wiawins_ATS on September 02, 2011, 08:57:21 pm
But they never will sadly...
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Lichen on September 02, 2011, 09:13:37 pm
If people don't like the idea of it replacing current black armor how about just add it as an alternative and have both?
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Warcat on September 02, 2011, 10:27:11 pm
as long as the current one is the best
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Darkula on September 02, 2011, 10:35:07 pm
Guys, look at the poll results.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Warcat on September 02, 2011, 10:50:28 pm
101% said no
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Kafein on September 02, 2011, 10:57:13 pm
19 people say : "But I like the polycarbonate-iridium alloy look of the current Black Armor ! :("
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on September 03, 2011, 12:03:15 am
There's so many beautiful armours and weapons made by modders. We could add much more new models.

Yeah, adding some new armor/helmets etc, would keep me MORE interested.

Dont get me wrong, I'm having fun, but frankly, at only generation 2, I've owned now probably every piece of armor there is (except the black armor, because its awefully textured) and, getting that excitement feeling about picking something up something new to play with, is now gone.

Also. adding some new armor, and replacing the aweful and top tier 'black armor' would just make this mod look that much better, and that much better than vanilla, rather than an amaturish modders oversight that brings the whole project down a notch - What I mean is, mods, often have really good features, and then have some factors that bring them down, and make the mod seem more like an amature project, and less like a professionally polished game.

 For all of all the great work in this mod, regardless of how unfair and petty it seems, its exactly things like the 'black armor' that make people feel like theyre playing an 'incomplete mod', rather than a polished product. The most expensive and effective piece of armor in the game, that takes a ton of upkeep, shouldnt be the weakest piece of art in the entire inventory, if anythiing, it should be the best of the best. And the Black armor completely fails in that regard.

And, some of the non-vanilla additions that have already been made, are some of my favorite 'differences' from vanilla, that I enjoy the most.

Nothing wrong with increasing peoples enjoyment factor, and making the mod look more unique and progressive.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Kafein on September 03, 2011, 12:07:33 am
There's one thing bad about adding content : people already experience the 2 frames freeze, crashes and stutter related to high memory usage. Adding more leads to more performance problems.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on September 03, 2011, 12:15:15 am
There's one thing bad about adding content : people already experience the 2 frames freeze, crashes and stutter related to high memory usage. Adding more leads to more performance problems.

I was unaware that the addition of inventory is what is bringing down performance - Are you sure about that?

If that's the case, just remove a few of the silly low tier armor items, game, set, and match.

There's way too many useless silly hats and shoes and bull***t that no-one needs in there.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Warcat on September 03, 2011, 12:37:47 am
If someone were to get rid of my heirloomed robes I'd be :mad:
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Kafein on September 03, 2011, 12:40:25 am
I was unaware that the addition of inventory is what is bringing down performance - Are you sure about that?

If that's the case, just remove a few of the silly low tier armor items, game, set, and match.

There's way too many useless silly hats and shoes and bull***t that no-one needs in there.

On some systems that run Native flawlessly, stutter and freezes can appear due to modded equipment. Mostly because many mod textures are too big and badly optimized. This becomes critical when people wear many different equipments, as the computer has to load them somehow. The load texture on demand option helps but relies on the hard disk, which is still slow.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on September 03, 2011, 01:00:21 am
On some systems that run Native flawlessly, stutter and freezes can appear due to modded equipment. Mostly because many mod textures are too big and badly optimized. This becomes critical when people wear many different equipments, as the computer has to load them somehow. The load texture on demand option helps but relies on the hard disk, which is still slow.

Well then the CRPG admins, should provide standards/guidlines to modders as to what is an acceptable file size and resolution. I do some skinning myself - If you give modders ballpark figures on what limits they need to work within, they will/can do it. I DO understand, that we are talking about already exsisting models/textures bieng adapted, but as skinner, I can tell you, ANY skin, most of the time, can be reduced in file size and resolution, without losing much quality.

I can't really speak for all skinners, but in general, if you told someone who owned a skin that you'd like to use thier skin/model in a very popular mod like CRPG, they might even be willing to rreduce the file size themselves, and if not, they probably wouldnt have a problem with 'someone else' reducing the file size so that it wouldnt adversly affect CRPG performance.

In fact, if current skins/models are making the game slow because theyre not optimised, well then someone needs to optimize them. Its completely doable.  In fact if it would improve performance, it should be 'job #1'.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Lichen on September 03, 2011, 01:25:56 am
but as skinner, I can tell you, ANY skin, most of the time, can be reduced in file size and resolution, without losing much quality.

In fact, if current skins/models are making the game slow because theyre not optimised, well then someone needs to optimize them. Its completely doable.  In fact if it would improve performance, it should be 'job #1'.
Its already been done: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,5335.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,5335.0.html)

Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on September 03, 2011, 01:38:21 am
Ah ok, I'm fairly new to the community, so I didnt know that, thanks for the link though!(edit: Oh wait I've seen that, not what I thought it was) - That's not really what I'm talking about though - I mean lower the 'base quality of the models/skins in the BASE CRPG package - Not an 'after-effect' mod. And not drastically, it would have to be played with an tested by a skinner/modeler who understands how to reduce a skins footprint, without losing very much quality. But what I'm talking about is CRPG itself taking a look at each and every 'non-vanilla' armor file, and cleaning them up a bit, so they arent such a footprint mess. -If they are that is.

 -Why I believe this is possibly the case is, as an artist, I know alot of guys make beautiful skins, but since optimization is less artistic/ more technical, they often release the skins 'unoptimised'. Very likely, most of the custom skins could be reduced in quality individually, with very little notice of quality loss by the end user.

Also, Would removing some of the low tier stuff help this any?

And no, as Warcat mentioned, I dont want to see anyone of course lose thier looms over this, but surely that could be addressed as well if something like this were to be done, no?
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Blondin on September 03, 2011, 02:03:00 am
I'm fine with the helmet, but when people go around in silly armor, they should look silly. An armor as mighty as Black Armor should not look like an armor fit for mere mortals.

Actually, I bet this is why this armors so ugly, you always have to make choice in cRPG, you can take the best armor but you will look like shit.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on September 03, 2011, 02:13:26 am
voted YES.

that armor look awesome... and the black armor we all know, sucks.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Prpavi on September 03, 2011, 02:20:35 am
voted YES, the current black armour is just hideous.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Patricia on September 03, 2011, 08:45:53 am
I was unaware that the addition of inventory is what is bringing down performance - Are you sure about that?

If that's the case, just remove a few of the silly low tier armor items, game, set, and match.

There's way too many useless silly hats and shoes and bull***t that no-one needs in there.

Some of us actually enjoys clothes - light armor.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: darmaster on September 03, 2011, 09:40:29 am
hmm it looks like a light armor, not like an heavy..
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Diomedes on September 03, 2011, 05:51:10 pm
Yes, some sort of change is needed.  I'd like if we could keep the uneven shoulders though.  The armour in this game is already quite symmetrical on the whole and a few sets of more non-generic styles would be nice.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Nehvar on September 03, 2011, 10:42:53 pm
If you read some of the other topics you would have seen this, the responce



:/

Linkage. (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,118706.msg4403847.html#msg4403847)

Should lock this thread as we won't be getting permission to use these models/textures.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on September 05, 2011, 12:52:49 pm
Some of us actually enjoys clothes - light armor.

Actually, I do as well.

However, there are a few items at the lower tier I think we could do without - alot of stat repetition, and not even much of a look difference IE, the abundance of boots.  I think most people would trade a few low tier boot options, for mid-high level chest armor options for example. And as much as I like all the hats, some of them are underwelming repetative, and have issues like chopping off your hair etc... I'm not sure about everyone else, but I'd like some replacements...
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Brrrak on September 06, 2011, 01:45:27 am
Keep the current black armor.  Seriously, if you're gonna run around in something that can probably stop a couple tank rounds (needs to be tested, I'll be happy to volunteer someone for the ballistics test! :mrgreen:) you might as well have the great balancer.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Warcat on September 06, 2011, 02:30:23 am
I wouldn't mind some improvements to it though, perhaps where it currently is metallic colored should be bright glowing neon pink or green, would add to the silly comedic effect of running around wearing a bomb shelter. Giving a normal look to it would only legitimize it.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Peasant_Woman on September 06, 2011, 02:47:47 am
However, there are a few items at the lower tier I think we could do without - alot of stat repetition, and not even much of a look difference IE, the abundance of boots.

Yes, it would be great to lose some of the awful looking items/ things no one uses anyway to free up some space for items which really enhance the mod.
For example;

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Bobthehero on September 06, 2011, 02:51:11 am
From what I heard the original model had many flaws, like missing faces and bad rigging, the AOC 2 team fixed the rigging, and maybe the face, but they wont let people use their model :/.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on September 06, 2011, 11:28:23 am
Yes, it would be great to lose some of the awful looking items/ things no one uses anyway to free up some space for items which really enhance the mod.
For example;

(click to show/hide)

hmm pity that armor give good camouflage for archers in a grassy map
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on September 06, 2011, 03:42:38 pm
Linkage. (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,118706.msg4403847.html#msg4403847)

Should lock this thread as we won't be getting permission to use these models/textures.

the threats are ages ago..

maybe they didnt want to release it to the public as narf did with his stuff, but i asked a moderator if we could use this armor for cRPG and he sayd: if chadz asks for it, sure.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Kenji on September 06, 2011, 03:45:10 pm
the threats are ages ago..

maybe they didnt want to release it to the public as narf did with his stuff, but i asked a moderator if we could use this armor for cRPG and he sayd: if chadz asks for it, sure.
Goodness, spam chadz over the irc right this instant!

Only kidding, let's all remain calm and civil and wait patiently for the response of the devs (if any).
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Fasader on September 06, 2011, 03:54:53 pm
I came.
chadz go PM that guy NAO.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: farthammer on September 07, 2011, 02:48:26 am
i vot yes rarmro lok dum so silyy
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Soldier_of_God on September 07, 2011, 08:07:21 am
The reasons why people buy black armor right now.

1.) its the best armor in the game.
2.) its black.
3.) people like to look like a burnt dog turd

so... what the hell ya'll waiting for? as a matter of fact, im not waiting for SHIT. wheres the DL link for this? im putting it in now.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Tzar on September 07, 2011, 08:20:27 am
Arent their missing a pair of gloves to match the armor also``?? and boots??
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on September 07, 2011, 02:16:50 pm
we could blacken the shynbauld model and offer hourglass or plate mittens in black aswell (=

that would just need a new darker texture what should be NP.

:*
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on September 16, 2011, 04:47:49 am
I really think this should be somewhat priority, (I guess after mechanical issues) but if any graphic updates are coming, this should be a natural.

Also as I stated earlier, some items could be replaced with more interesting.useful/graphically more pleasing items that would make crpg visually better:

Tourney helmets - no one uses them. Their crests are awkwardly small and dull. I would prefer 'War of the roses' Mod helmets if we want a few with tourney crests, or anything other than the current ones.

Do we really need three different versions of the nordic warlord style helmet?

10 different styles of the non-unique nasal helmets?

Does anyone wear the Khergit or Vaegir elite armor?

16 Dresses?  16? lol

I think there is room for swapping better stuff in, I'd start with a few dresses and probably a couple of the more redundant nasal helms.

as long as they keep the high standards of WHAT they swap in, good job on that so far (in terms of graphics/scaling on model)

Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on September 16, 2011, 10:52:33 am
I really think this should be somewhat priority, (I guess after mechanical issues) but if any graphic updates are coming, this should be a natural.

Also as I stated earlier, some items could be replaced with more interesting.useful/graphically more pleasing items that would make crpg visually better:

Tourney helmets - no one uses them. Their crests are awkwardly small and dull. I would prefer 'War of the roses' Mod helmets if we want a few with tourney crests, or anything other than the current ones.

Do we really need three different versions of the nordic warlord style helmet?

10 different styles of the non-unique nasal helmets?

Does anyone wear the Khergit or Vaegir elite armor?

16 Dresses?  16? lol

I think there is room for swapping better stuff in, I'd start with a few dresses and probably a couple of the more redundant nasal helms.

as long as they keep the high standards of WHAT they swap in, good job on that so far (in terms of graphics/scaling on model)

and actually good looking stuff is few, so a lot of gear is overused (klappvisier, sallet with visor, winged helmet, black leather, rus scale, coat of plates, heraldic mail...)
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Fartface on September 17, 2011, 12:03:51 am
ye somethings need to get removed.
some new things added.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Kharn on September 18, 2011, 11:21:52 pm
The new armor is not plated on the front and back like the current one is.

Until you want to mod the texture so it actually is the most protecting armor in the game I vote no.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on September 23, 2011, 03:26:01 pm
Kharn are you stupid?

it obviously offers better shelter then the old black armor.

the curent one has chainmail on the arms which is big like whole pixels.

if you look on the picture, the new model has a extra plate to protect the front and its vembraces are very protective.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Bjord on September 23, 2011, 03:27:42 pm
You take this way too seriously, Manne.  :lol:
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: RandomDude on September 23, 2011, 03:28:53 pm
If this new black armour is implimented (it looks a bit scrawny to me) could we have a better dark helmet too?

the armour/helm from the warband Sword of Damocles mod look good enough to me
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on September 23, 2011, 03:31:53 pm
go on page one of this threat, theres a fitting helmet to this armor aswell.

and it is not scrawny, its just perfect fitting like a good plate should be..

(x
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: RandomDude on September 23, 2011, 05:18:47 pm
go on page one of this threat, theres a fitting helmet to this armor aswell.

and it is not scrawny, its just perfect fitting like a good plate should be..

(x

no there is not a fitting helmet on page 1

that helmet should be upturned, placed on the ground and used as a pisspot by warriors, not worn by them
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Revenge on September 24, 2011, 05:31:32 am
Looks amazing deffinately better!
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Shadowren on September 24, 2011, 10:07:41 pm
no there is not a fitting helmet on page 1

that helmet should be upturned, placed on the ground and used as a pisspot by warriors, not worn by them

Instead of bitching about how it looks, why not you go and make something better?

The armor and helm look way better than the original.

But it would be nice to see more designs for the helm. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Warcat on September 24, 2011, 11:55:52 pm
If this new black armour is implimented (it looks a bit scrawny to me) could we have a better dark helmet too?

the armour/helm from the warband Sword of Damocles mod look good enough to me

This, black armor in SoD would be a good replacement. Looks far less cheezy, but still something for use by those who (think they) are above mere mortals.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Leesin on September 25, 2011, 12:03:41 am
The black armour should have been replaced months ago, it has had suitable replacements for a long time, yet we get stuff like turkish diaper hats that were most likely only sought after by the Turkish clans.

 Not pointing fingers here, I think it's great we get more cultures into the game, but how hard is it to replace the black armour when we have already had more than one great black armour to put in its place and people have been asking for it for a very long time.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on September 25, 2011, 11:32:59 am
Looks amazing deffinately better!

You look amazingly better! (x
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on September 25, 2011, 11:34:20 am
This, black armor in SoD would be a good replacement. Looks far less cheezy, but still something for use by those who (think they) are above mere mortals.

its from AoC btw. well people who pay black armor should feel above mere mortals, not? (=
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Warcat on September 25, 2011, 11:46:19 pm
but they do think that, it's what allows them to take on overwhelming odds and barely get damaged. It's quite fun to wear it, agi builds often just bounce off with their hits.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Vibe on September 27, 2011, 12:59:53 pm
bump
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on October 04, 2011, 07:32:46 pm
sadfully chadz NOT THE BALLZ TO ASK for permission to use it, or he doesnt really care about the community's interests and enjoys his stupid balance propaganding coding excesses?
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on October 04, 2011, 08:40:34 pm
sadfully chadz NOT THE BALLZ TO ASK for permission to use it, or he doesnt really care about the community's interests and enjoys his stupid balance propaganding coding excesses?
yeah, after reading this post they will surely jump and do as you ask!
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Goretooth on October 04, 2011, 08:43:00 pm
All this fuzz for me?
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Penitent on October 05, 2011, 12:08:30 am
DOn't replace, just add it in.

If all these models are available, why aren't we adding them left and right?

Need more equipmentz plz.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on October 06, 2011, 04:14:01 pm
bloody nine the high lobby of devs anyways dont waste their valuable time in the suggestion corner ;)
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Tot. on October 06, 2011, 04:15:26 pm
DOn't replace, just add it in.

If all these models are available, why aren't we adding them left and right?

Need more equipmentz plz.

Because current black armor looks like it was from 1997.
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: Whiligelm on October 07, 2011, 02:45:57 pm
That armor and that helm are definetely some piece of art  :wink:
Title: Re: POLL: Replacement for current Black Armor?
Post by: RandomDude on October 07, 2011, 02:54:09 pm
Instead of bitching about how it looks, why not you go and make something better?

The armor and helm look way better than the original.

But it would be nice to see more designs for the helm. :mrgreen:

Yeah i didnt mean any offence, i thought it was a pretty funny joke i made.

It takes time and effort to do that modelling stuff - maybe one day ill sit down and learn to do it, but it doesnt sit well in my schedule right now.