NOT OK: Modifying game files to gain undeserved benefitsWill mean specificaly that - modifying items as it's done with the heirloom items, sound mods, custom item skins (changing the texture to fit your personal roleplay) is ok, removing weather effects, removing foliage, making buildings transparent, glowing items - not ok. If you have doubts about your modification being alright, you can always post it to forums and ask for opinions, I believe that most players can differentiate between mods that change the player experience from mods that worsen the player experience so numbers next to their names can be bigger :wink: Common sense and some fairness, please.
1st Kebab admin, it just took 6 years to find a turk who doesnt get triggered when you say something bad about Turkland.I've been told lately that saying something bad about Turkey/Turks is racism.
Good evening;
Nightingale is removed as an admin from both EU and NA admin teams. I've talked with Nightingale about it, with few other NA and EU admins, and asked a couple players.
After Desire gave me an ultimatum, I could not let them remain. Nightingale isn't banned, and can continue being an item balancer/advisor if they want to.
Will mean specificaly that - modifying items as it's done with the heirloom items, sound mods, custom item skins (changing the texture to fit your personal roleplay) is ok, removing weather effects, removing foliage, making buildings transparent, glowing items - not ok.
What if i am role playing a Jedi and want to mod a longsword to be my lightsaber?
As far as I see correct, what pandor did, was not forbidden at that time, then its time to unban him.
#freepandor
There's a difference between lightsaber glow (Bearforce mod for example) and pure single color texture glow.
To be honest, it's possible :D But in reality, you'll find your lightsaber to be shitty and not cutting enemies into pieces, stopping against shields and other weapons that clearly are inferior :(
Kratos is now a trial admin for EU servers.
Kratos is now a trial admin for EU servers.Möd is dead
Anyone who isn't a Turk deserves a ban imo.Look at all these poor banned souls the future has in store visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Admin changes:
Nightingale is removed as an admin
no one else is gonna say so i guess i have to
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RIP :(
Technically, they should go back in time and unban him, then ban him now.
I stand by all of my actions during my time as an admin. I did my best to help maintain a respectful and healthy community for the 4 years I was active. I tried to do my best in enforcing the rules as unbiasedly as I could; I may have overdone it. I am sorry that people felt the need to "quit" over a two-day ban that was self-inflicted.
@Hellou: Its in the rules so I enforced it; The rules are constructed by Europeans, servers are paid for by Europeans, this mod is made by Europeans. If they decide they don't want racial slurs in their servers that would be their choice. It has clearly been decided that spamming this is to be allowed. I would advise updating the rules to accommodate for this sudden change in atmosphere. (FYI there are a few Canadian admins)
@e_wstwd: I wouldn't compare me to the evil witch xD That doesn't speak highly of any of you guys... well never mind, that is pretty fitting.
I don't want my admin back nor do I expect to get it back; that said, RIP in pieces me. :lol:
If you would've just said "I'm sorry." and left it at that it would've spoken so many volumes above this disaster of a post, but I guess on some level you still feel smug about what you did.
I don't dislike you and apart from the initial length of the ban, I might have done the same in similar circumstances.
Well, with this rather high number of players going ape shit cuz of - I dunno - "muh oppressive system", muting is not a practical solution to resolve the situation.
One general warning, then straight to banning for 2 hours or something.
Still seems to be the sound approach to me and I can imagine to most of the other admins too.
Yea, I don't think it's wise to get this discussion going right now :wink:
At the end of the day it boils down to politics anyway.
Let's just hope these kind of things do not repeat...
...in everyone's interest.
anything and everything I say will be taken as offensive and "smug" in nature.Just get rid of the purple text.
@e_wstwd: I wouldn't compare me to the evil witch xD That doesn't speak highly of any of you guys... well never mind, that is pretty fitting.Do not FUCK with the Lollipop Guild
"We don't trust you to admin but you can still alter the game." I'm not sure that is wise? Given I was in Uthyr's same shoes and if I were to decide I can't trust a person to make simple decisions; how could I trust this same person to alter the very game everyone plays?
I will never trust you after arrow-gate 2.0 The Sequel.
"We don't trust you to admin but you can still alter the game." I'm not sure that is wise? Given I was in Uthyr's same shoes and if I were to decide I can't trust a person to make simple decisions; how could I trust this same person to alter the very game everyone plays?
the new rule that cmp added - Will mean specificaly that - modifying items as it's done with the heirloom items, sound mods, custom item skins (changing the texture to fit your personal roleplay) is ok, removing weather effects, removing foliage, making buildings transparent, glowing items - not ok.
Sucks that this rule was added during the twilight of crpg, but better late than never I guess. Many players (myself included) had sperged out numerous times before about this sort of blatant cheating. I think it already should have been covered under the "common sense" rule that modifying your client for ingame advantage = bannable offense.
I understand devs thought the other legitimate ways of modifying the game files mentioned were more important, which leads me to ask how the devs plan to enforce the rule, if at all. Will there finally be a file check during launch? Will it prevent the users of these cheats from playing at all or replace the modded files with default ones? It should be like the autoblock/multiaccount threads, mention nothing to the cheater until he is banned and whines on the forum about it, mostly cause I enjoy reading those threads.
those kind of modifications are not detectable, are they?
Oberyn is a cunt but I can't agree more on this.
However adding this rule before the incident would have just prevented pandor from posting his videos and in the end he would have never been banned since those kind of modifications are not detectable, are they?
Will mean specificaly that - modifying items as it's done with the heirloom items, sound mods, custom item skins (changing the texture to fit your personal roleplay) is ok, removing weather effects, removing foliage, making buildings transparent, glowing items - not ok.
And maybe you dont know but the 2h sword you use glow without wse2 because as always chadz cant make things without mistakes/think/ check everything before release.
It is even easier for the enemies to follow my swings since everyone has that bug.
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That is the thing, I wanted let you know...
Will mean specificaly that - modifying items as it's done with the heirloom items, sound mods, custom item skins (changing the texture to fit your personal roleplay) is ok, removing weather effects, removing foliage, making buildings transparent, glowing items - not ok.
In that particular case you can tell his comp is barely handling a reasonable fps as it is with that level of detail. More like Scary Mod than anything. The lack of bushes and trees clearly gives an advantage, especially as ranged, and yeah, I would consider that a cheat. But it's not nearly equivalent to bright neon coloured weapons/arrows/bolts in terms of artificial advantage you get over other players. This shit is just common sense, something you seem to lack when it comes to crpg rules.
It would be extremely OP cheat for cav in a couple of maps, but still more OP for ranged. I'm thinking about that one map that is just a fucking forest with a circle of stones in the middle, that one is a bitch at night, with no bushes or trees it would turn into a completely different map. It is common sense that this is a vastly bigger buff to a class that can hit from across the other side of the map than one that must close in to get a kill. I've had my doubts about some ranged players cheating bushes/trees based on that one map alone, but that could just be my inherent loathing of ranged biasing me.
This shit is just common sense, something you seem to lack when it comes to crpg rules.
I really hope they do a whitelist with their new game at the very least (also with crpg) so all these cheaters like Pandor and Jambi can't abuse modifications to make themselves have a huge advantage over other players instead of relying on actual skill.Young Kesh? :P
But now he would not do this anymore because its forbidden :!:
A point about ban people who said the word "niger" in game on NA server.
Occitans are from Canada right? Canadas economy never based on slavery of black people and had never same anti black laws like USA. In Europe the situation is the same. I dont see why in Canada or Europe or Asia blacks should get more protection than other nations, races or whatever. Slavery, aparthed, the word friend, its mostly an US problem. How can you ban people from Canada because they used the n word, while there is a country called nigeria and some see called niger. friend this and niger that, this is part of the us hip hop music.
Look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eOv0ASKFQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x5ZRAVXxr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jE5TpN2bb8
Its even allowed to sing like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnMvz3mLXaA
All this come out of your us-culture into the world!
Win process against youtube and all the artists, then start to ban the world :lol:
Canadians need own representation between admins :idea:
So wrong. I hope your not american.
So wrong. I hope your not american.
Nightingale isn't banned, and can continue being an item balancer/advisor if they want to.
Don't want to sound selfish (haha, sounds like fish) or egoistic, but IMO any game texture modifications should be prohibited, since you can never draw a definite line between what gives you an advantage and what only improves the looks.
I mean, come on, why not play the game as it is.
Considering how racist EU is, especially against Turks
Racism is allowed now Kesh, get with the times.
im not politician, so i'm still free to say what i think
While Occitans are banned, this guy Kesh and his friends take over their fiefs.
Take a look at the strat map or past/future battles...
Someone is still banned?..No idea if still banned but they lost already most their fief after ban, they have only 2 last, and under attack.
The whole Nightingale thing is pretty lame. Uther steps in and instead of working with her, the first thing he does is cover his ass by throwing her under the bus to appease some assholes who were spamming the N-word en masse on a server and got a measly two-day ban, even though many of them had prior records of abuse and trolling. Considering how racist EU is, especially against Turks, you would think he would be a little more supportive of his admins for something that has been done before by Canary and other admins.
Especially after over 4 years of solid, impartial service and not that biased admin shit in favor of your own clan like Artyem does (who never lost his adminship for supporting the racism and encouraging and participating in it himself in-game chat using the public admin chat ((I lost adminship for far far less)). But hey, its politics!
No idea if still banned but they lost already most their fief after ban, they have only 2 last, and under attack.Nobody is still banned. In general, people decided to stop playing because they were banned for thirty days, en masse, and even after the ban was lessened it would have been pretty gay to say jk guys we're playing again this is totally reasonable now, don't you think? The ban rollback was couched as a threat to start deleting accounts if anything like that happened again. This mod is a shit show and I'm sure everyone who still isn't playing (most of Frisia, Dracul, and Occitan, along with some other random people who left in solidarity I guess?) is happier overall.
No idea if still banned but they lost already most their fief after ban, they have only 2 last, and under attack.
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I laugh at your accusation of anti-turkish racism in Europe by appointing the first turkish admin!
I feel used.
Say the word Kratos! I'll defend our glorious nation on this specific forum with my trash talk&rage combination...
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Where is your left hand?
Where is your left hand?
Where is your left hand?
All you n-words and your strat drama. You should be called f-words instead for caring so much about gay fiefs. Even the biggest tryhard a-words in this community don't care so much about boring as shit Strategus. I bet your s-words are the size of a peanut.I like big battles, I would join a server with 40+ players, now I often see less than 20.
Word.
Also, they were in the process of giving most of their troops and gear and gold to DRZ (like they need it) as the good overlords they were. This is taking it away from NA and good fights there, so we tried to stop that.
I feel used.
(1)You seem to have adopted a robotic hardline approach to enforcing rules that might work under a AAA game where you oversee thousands of lifeless player names, but we are at a family size now where common sense and understanding > self-destructive application of rules.
(2)Everyone will tell you until you finally admit it that the extreme duration of the bans in the n-word affair was wrong, the fact that the bans were supposedly obviously going to be reduced to normal-heavy duration all along was wrong, and not apologizing +
(3)threatening to delete an entire community of the game over something that was wrong was wrong.
(4)Uther steps in and instead of working with her, the first thing he does is cover his ass by throwing her under the bus to appease some assholes who were spamming the N-word en masse on a server and got a measly two-day ban, even though many of them had prior records of abuse and trolling.
(5) Considering how racist EU is, especially against Turks, you would think he would be a little more supportive of his admins for something that has been done before by Canary and other admins.
(6)Especially after over 4 years of solid, impartial service and not that biased admin shit in favor of your own clan like Artyem does (who never lost his adminship for supporting the racism and encouraging and participating in it himself in-game chat using the public admin chat ((I lost adminship for far far less)).
(7)It never was about allowing or denying racism
(8)It's about 19 unnecessary bans that affected the entire NA population. Yes, they were initially idiotically long but they were reduced under the public pressure.
(9)had talks with few other admins from EU and NA, and couple of players.
(10)I saw no other way.
(11) I'm just drawing the consequences, and sorry, but I have the right to be worried after her posts like "If this is the nail to the NA cRPG coffin, so be it"[/b], which show a weird attitude for an admin to hold.
(12) One thing we couldn't agree on is our approach towards the rules - while she leaned more towards upholding them no matter the opposition of rule breakers, I feel it's more important to adapt as the times change, so the game continues to supply what people want from it - fun. We're not some huge game with hundreds of faceless players where we can afford to discourage some of them from playing for minor infractions. I feel there is more to gain in a more lenient approach to the rules, and more often relying on player complaints rather than taking action ourselves, in appropriate cases.
(13) Artyem actually asked for removal after the incident, he doesn't wish to play anymore afaik, but deadmining an inactive person is redundant in my eyes.
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You should come to the realization that I don't care what people think.
I don't care if this game dies.
bla bla bla... why take so long to explain yourself. I thought you said you didnt care about what others think about you, or if the game dies... yet you write huge walls of TL:DR
It seems like your mega butthurt and sad about losing your interwebs powers, but i recommend you leave it behind you.
Seems like you didnt care about alot of things, when you had other admins holding a hand above your head. And felt untouchable cause of some interweb powertrip.
But now that you've been stripped, all this sudden you seem to be on damage control.
You should have taken the advice of the plebs, they told you before to take responsibility for your mistakes... and acknowledge them, but you didnt care.
Again, here you are. I post something and you just feel internally obligated to crea..
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If you are looking for me to say "sorry for having admined" then you won't get what you are looking for.
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You banned 19 people for no real reason for 30 days, they left the mod. You lost your admin powers. :lol:
Now I understand how some policemen in USA could shoot children who had toy pistols, they just admined... :rolleyes:
nobrainnopain.
You banned 19 people for no real reason for 30 days, they left the mod. You lost your admin powers. :lol:
Now I understand how some policemen in USA could shoot children who had toy pistols, they just admined... :rolleyes:
nobrainnopain.
It's been almost a month now several threads created about this you should at least have been able comprehend the basics... but you have failed; you are not alone though so don't worry.I saw a thread where you banned them... even when someone later reduced the ban it doesnt matter.
nobrainnopain.
ugh... I should really stop reading this thread. D:
no
I am afraid you will have to include
I get a terrible head ache reading through your posts.I ignore your posts if you dont quote me.
Nightingale your problem is trying to argue rationally with trolls in the first place. Just call them, accurately, retarded cunts and be done with it. Sadly the playerbase is so small now that these retarded cunts are proportionaly a much larger part of it than they used to be. There's really no point to playing a game when almost the only people left are these circlejerking idiots who treat public servers like personal chatroom hangouts, with all the "hilarious" in-jokes, meme spewing and trolling that entails.
I have no doubt they prodded and poked and provoked Nightingale into it, only to cry crocodile tears about how tyranical and opressive the decision was afterwards, typical troll tactics, similar to pre-school girls getting boys into trouble. After all, here was an admin "robotically" enforcing the rules, i.e not a proper troll incubator like the vast majority of other NA admins.
People in NA have just accepted that this is a stagnant, dying game, with practically no chance of getting new blood and therefore incestuous metagaming bullshit is now a normal and integral part and must not be interfered with by admins. That's all this "family size" and "understanding" euphemistic bullshit means. The game is now so small that removing cancerous tumour behaviour, something that would've been matter of fact a few years ago, is prohibitive because it would kill the game itself. If the state of the playerbase is so dire that there's more cancer than flesh, well, that kind of speaks for itself.
Advantage of a small game is that we can shed most politically incorrect bullshit and just have fun like a group of friends, like a family.
You couldnt fit in this group anymore, you quit, you rage on the forum all year long...
Hell, you cant even fit on the off-topic section, man must it be hard to be you.
Even in recent massively played games, near perma-banning entire groups of players for saying a word would be stupid to a hell of a lot of people.
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Lol yeah whatever will I do without the comforting embrace of the crpg community. Anyways you fuckers won't get rid of me that easily, just because crpg is a putrescent zombie doesn't mean I won't play KM.We like to call OKAM actually :wink:
Artyem actually asked for removal after the incident, he doesn't wish to play anymore afaik, but deadmining an inactive person is redundant in my eyes.
20 people got banned for around 30 days? Jesus, NA jail sentences..
All I can say about this drama is that Nightingale did what was right, and I'd do exactly the same if I were in his shoes. I can't understand why he is being sanctioned for this.
Imo crpg went to shit when people started to implement the made up rule of "majority is always right and untouchable" anyway. One can only congratulate an admin for reminding the masses that following the herd isn't always necessarily the right thing to do.
People seem to forget that this is a multiplayer game that requires players for the game to remain alive. On a server that usually has less than 20 players on at prime-time banning 20 players for 30 days and ruining a strat battle for "trolling" after provoking them is just dumb. There is no shortage of admins on NA, in fact while other admins were trying to handle the situation by just muting the morons he stepped in and started passing out 30 day bans provoking them even further and didn't stop until he banned 20 players for 30 day and then banned the head admin of NA.rofl that's why giving an admin rights to forum warriors who need to compensate being sh1t in this game is one big joke
It's nothing personal against Desire, there are just too many admins on NA as it is, and every one of them would have and could have handled the situation better, which is why it's better if Desire just doesn't have admin. Desire is a ban happy admin and even admitted he doesn't care if the mod dies, this is not the kind of admin we need, he has no common sense.
rofl that's why giving an admin rights to forum warriors who need to compensate being sh1t in this game is one big joke
Long live our Eu DTV ADMIN(idi na hui pizdec :mrgreen:) which he has more common sense than all Na admins.
"We don't trust you to admin but you can still alter the game." I'm not sure that is wise?
20 people got banned for around 30 days? Jesus, NA jail sentences..Also, Gravoth, what in the fucking hell is your profile picture.
Also, Gravoth, what in the fucking hell is your profile picture.
Plebs who havent watched Berserk dont deserve to know.I have to agree I am a pleb. I'll get round to it one day..
The thing is, once you've warned and then banned the first person for doing it you cant back out.
I enjoy TS shenanigans as much as anyone, but deliberately getting yourself banned and whining like a little bitch on the forums about it. Come on.
If they actually had motivation to play Strat, they wouldn't have quit.What does that even mean
If they actually had motivation to play Strat, they wouldn't have quit.
You'd think all these people playin...
Here's something that might be foreign to you: It's called principle. They quit because of their principles, they're not gonna invest time into a game where something like that could possibly happen. Good on them. They had the motivation to play strat, and they probably would've won if you ask me (someone who was a neutral faction towards them, and possibly would've fought them at some point). What they DIDN'T have the motivation for, or should I say tolerance for, was dealing with childish admins who think it's okay to ban 20 people in one sitting over what really amounts to a minor offense.
Here's something that might be foreign to you: It's called principle. They quit because of their principles, they're not gonna invest time into a game where something like that could possibly happen. Good on them. They had the motivation to play strat, and they probably would've won if you ask me (someone who was a neutral faction towards them, and possibly would've fought them at some point). What they DIDN'T have the motivation for, or should I say tolerance for, was dealing with childish admins who think it's okay to ban 20 people in one sitting over what really amounts to a minor offense.Sooo... they all went dipshit and spammed the chat with 'friend' out of principle too? :lol:
Here's something that might be foreign to you: It's called principle. They quit because of their principles, they're not gonna invest time into a game where something like that could possibly happen. Good on them. They had the motivation to play strat, and they probably would've won if you ask me (someone who was a neutral faction towards them, and possibly would've fought them at some point). What they DIDN'T have the motivation for, or should I say tolerance for, was dealing with childish admins who think it's okay to ban 20 people in one sitting over what really amounts to a minor offense.
Also does anybody really believe people just slammed the door and left out of principle? Nope, they left because they were only here due to habit and a tiny bit of obsession just like all of us. The few remaining people still play only because they can't find a reason good enough to stop already. Those who left finally found a reason, which is good for them.
I really wonder who is more childish here. Peeps who jumped on the prohibited word bandwagon without a second thought or the person who punished them because he was assigned to that position for punishing such actions in the first place?
It is when they are incorrect about something I was involved with and assume things is when I call bullshit.
Cmon, admin fukd up and got removed end of story
All I can say about this drama is that Nightingale did what was right, and I'd do exactly the same if I were in his shoes
The whole concept of playing without typing the N-word in the chat seems quite easy to understand
I'd like to sheep myself into the popular opinion, but I'm unsure of what it actually is. I'll have to be crafty in stating my opinion, then.
Nightingale was an admin. Now they are not. People were banned. A few people left. Some players respect Nightingale for the bans. Others are mad about them. Uthyr removed Nightingale.
God damn people are dense as hell;
not 19 for 30
8 for 30
rest 1-10 days.
"NA head admin" - 30 days
After the "head admin" decided to join in roughly 9 more people were banned. (people with no ban record)
After the fact: I reduced the bans to just 2 days (hesitantly because I know they all know what they were doing.)
Here's something that might be foreign to you: It's called principle. They quit because of their principles, they're not gonna invest time into a game where something like that could possibly happen. Good on them. They had the motivation to play strat, and they probably would've won if you ask me (someone who was a neutral faction towards them, and possibly would've fought them at some point). What they DIDN'T have the motivation for, or should I say tolerance for, was dealing with childish admins who think it's okay to ban 20 people in one sitting over what really amounts to a minor offense.
Stellaris
I read a few pages back and don't know exactly what the argument is now, but some of the Euros here seem to have the misconception that a bunch of bad players, griefers and memekid types were the people banned when it was pretty much all of NA's current(now past lol) tryhard allstars.
Lol, dream on.
Also, these same guys that "quit", still griefing and trolling. Desire was one of the few admins left that stood up them since they have over 3 admins in their factions condoning and supporting their behvior. Both Havelle, Deltah, and Rando (3 of the last 4 posters saying how they said or supported saying N word on "principle" and glad to see new head admin) all just 1 hour ago poll-banned off entire enemy team in strat battle to win after they started losing horrendously as such bad fighter because "they don't really care about strat and Havelle's village because they "quit". I worked for weeks to build that army and gear and they will only get a slap on wrist at best.
Lol, dream on.
Also, these same guys that "quit", still griefing and trolling. Desire was one of the few admins left that stood up them since they have over 3 admins in their factions condoning and supporting their behvior. Both Havelle, Deltah, and Rando (3 of the last 4 posters saying how they said or supported saying N word on "principle" and glad to see new head admin) all just 1 hour ago poll-banned off entire enemy team in strat battle to win after they started losing horrendously as such bad fighter because "they don't really care about strat and Havelle's village because they "quit". I worked for weeks to build that army and gear and they will only get a slap on wrist at best.
http://forum.melee.org/na-(official)/ban-request-(havelle-daruvian-cup457-among-others)/ (http://forum.melee.org/na-(official)/ban-request-(havelle-daruvian-cup457-among-others)/)
http://forum.melee.org/na-(official)/really-70461/ (http://forum.melee.org/na-(official)/really-70461/)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=1211 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=1211)
People used to get lengthy bans for cheating like that - Desire, Canary would enforce that to prevent it becoming rampant. Instead EU steps in as head admin and gets rid of one of the few admins who would do anything, basically encouraging them to repeatedly do this over and over again using pseudonyms. You wonder why many of us were totally okay with them getting a 2 day ban, because all they ever do is troll, grief and cheat to win. These are the exact same people - cancer in the community that "quit" but continue playing and trolling with no fear of repercussions as only their friends primarily left as admins (only 2 admins to post in that thread were both friens of theirs who were in the same strat faction with them - 1 was artyem who supposedly "quit" and so doesn't lose his adminship.
Uther?! Damn, Dupre would actually do shit.
The thing is, once you've warned and then banned the first person for doing it you cant back out.
If admin A had warned then the offender didn't stop then admin A, B or C would need to ban that individual. Now if that's already happened, the admin that did it is committed to enforcing that rule at least for that session. If the admin decided 'now too many people are breaking the rules and ignoring my warnings, I guess they sure showed me' then the drama would be different but equally intense; 'OMFG, double-standard, you ban this guy but not everyone else when they ignore your warnings!?!?'
I enjoy TS shenanigans as much as anyone, but deliberately getting yourself banned and whining like a little bitch on the forums about it. Come on.
Finally read last few pages. Such a good summary! Whiny trolly bitches the lot of them - will keep doing it as long as their friend admins treat them with kid gloves.
Deltah
Let's not make blanket statements about admins. Some of us are too scared to voice our opinions out of fear of bullying from the cRPG community.
how about u fire this pencil pusher and hire someone like me who isnt a pussy
And where's the fun in that?Nobody got permabanned. What are you talking about?
You mean you'd permaban people for saying "friend"?
True, but I'd say it's not that suprising that people overracted when permbans were given for a minor chat abuse.
Nobody got permabanned. What are you talking about?Shh, lets keep ignoring that all the bans were reduced and keep shitting on desire
Nobody got permabanned. What are you talking about?
Again - nobody got permabanned nor for a couple of months.(click to show/hide)
After the fact - yes, bans were reduced, I know that - now. But how could other players know that when bans were given? The shitstorm began not because someone got banned for 2 days, but because people got banned for a coule of months or permabanned. And it's not a good admining anyway. It's like going to the court where judge says to you: sentenced to death by hanging. Oh wait! Just kidding, 2 days in jail.
PS. I don't really give a damn, cause why should I, and Nightingale seems to be a nice guy overall. But we can not let such nice drama die out.
Uther?! Damn, Dupre would actually do shit.
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God damn people are dense as hell;
not 19 for 30
8 for 30
rest 1-10 days.
"NA head admin" - 30 days
After the "head admin" decided to join in roughly 9 more people were banned. (people with no ban record)
After the fact: I reduced the bans to just 2 days (hesitantly because I know they all know what they were doing.)
Do you want a bot that automatically posts this every 2 hours?
I guess that would reduce your time wasted by at least 80%.
And maybe at some point all these people still complaining and bitching will finally get it into their thick skulls.
Yes please.
TL;DR: Entitled little bundle of sticks cunts are used to shitting up the game like it's their personal playground, throw a tantrum when an admin finally dares to do their "job".
Dumb excuses so far are:
-Game is so small that rules should be circumvented and rewritten for playerbase health reasons (make rules more convenient for shit trolls, GENIUS, that will surely help the playerbase).
-Saying "friend" was a principled stand for freedom and apple pie and not a bunch of cunts retroactively finding excuses for shitting up a public server with their autism.
TL;DR: Entitled little bundle of sticks cunts are used to shitting up the game like it's their personal playground, throw a tantrum when an admin finally dares to do their "job".
Dumb excuses so far are:
-Game is so small that rules should be circumvented and rewritten for playerbase health reasons (make rules more convenient for shit trolls, GENIUS, that will surely help the playerbase).
-Saying "friend" was a principled stand for freedom and apple pie and not a bunch of cunts retroactively finding excuses for shitting up a public server with their autism.
I'm sorry I'm not up at 6am to control everything and rely on admins like any sane person in my position would do))
Sparvico already told you that he has no access to logs, do you expect him to call Witchcraft and have him read tarot to find out the real identities of the offenders? As soon as I get access to the logs (goddamnit Dupre), I'll look into it myself, logs allow us to see who is behind a pseudonym. Sparvico handled it as good as he could.
Just fucking kill this thread already, it's getting boring as hell.
Desire is right on the part that she was trying to apply the rules against a bunch of "hey lets spam friend at once xd" kids and because rules state so she has the right to ban them.BUT, not permanently or for 90 fucking days.
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Remove Kratos adminship for legalize racism11!1!!11!
And spank him!
This.
I know I will regret wasting any more time on this, but I seriously do not get how some entitled idiots managed to have one of the best admins "fired" just by jumping on the bandwagon of autism causing a (in relation to the size of this community) big shitstorm.
Every other admin that did not stand up for Desire needs to get a fucking grip and do their job, rather than ignoring rules for the sake of keeping this mod "alive", simply by letting childish retards break and bend rules to their liking.
No matter how big a community is, rules are there for a reason. The reason being protecting the "law abiding players" from the rule breakers. This has not been the case in quite a while.
No he treated his friends better - gave ban based on if they had done that on na1 for jokes, not NA3 where someone's work for weeks destroyed by pollabuse in order to cheat to win. In the past much more connected punishment to fit what is going on.
Also, you need to realize there is a steady trickle of us leaving over these trolls being supported by the current admins - we don't make a loud noise like the crybaby trolls mass spamming n-word and then whining about getting punished for it. Instead my friends are slowly leaving this game (lost another 2 last night after that incident) because the fact is the trolls are getting their way and the administration is getting rid of the admins that actually stand up to their bullying as the trolls increasingly get their way using their numbers and the admins they have in their factions.
So you can cater to the trolls or you can cater to the community that actually doesn't make a lot of noise and don't do things that are banworthy and usually don't even post on forums. Your choice - really can't do both! And it seems like you are making the wrong one so far.
the strat loser who loses all the strat battles and wars
Lol, what rock are you living under. hahahaha, FCC notorious for dominating every strategus we play in. Your clan only ever really known for losing and using N-word. Good one! made me laugh! Kind of makes anything else you post unreliable so no point in reading, since you obviously have no idea of anything that goes on from all your posts in this thread.
since you obviously have no idea of anything that goes on from all your repeatedly incorrect posts in this thread about permabans (of which there are none)
This "best admin" you talk bout would mainly play on a on a naked character with just a stick delaying and brocoding or a horse archer delaying while passing out the most ridiculous ban times for minor offenses to actual players. Everyone on NA has autism which is why we need EU admin.
Gross, at least chat spam is muteable playerside, but brocode delaying naked is still the worst thing in the mod.
TL;DR: Entitled little bundle of sticks cunts are used to shitting up the game like it's their personal playground, throw a tantrum when an admin finally dares to do their "job".You are a fucking idiot. How about you stay in your Soviet Bloc concrete box instead of grandstanding about something you obviously don't understand and haven't taken the time to look in to. Feel free to stop reading now.
Dumb excuses so far are:
-Game is so small that rules should be circumvented and rewritten for playerbase health reasons (make rules more convenient for shit trolls, GENIUS, that will surely help the playerbase).
-Saying "friend" was a principled stand for freedom and apple pie and not a bunch of cunts retroactively finding excuses for shitting up a public server with their autism.
P.S. you really do have to be the dumbest of the ravens, which is pretty low already - they were never known for creativity - playing the same class year after year without ever trying anything new - stupid ex-military mindset.Sorry for the double post, I didn't see this until now.
It would be pretty interesting to see a "Where Are They Now" special where like Frisia is a boat clan, and Dracul/Raven is a Second Life biker gang and Kesh is just still continuing to play strat alone.
lmao does the truth hurt you? my old friendgot(click to show/hide)
lol :D :D :D :D Pure, sad nerd-rage in action! This is straight-up hilarious buddy. And yes they did defend using the word and bragged about saying it in that ts recording. Just because they are your friends doesn't mean they are always right. lol Learn to think for yourself buddy.
lmao does the truth hurt you? my old friendgot
Homphobic slurs, racist slurs. The real you comes out for all to see, just like your clanmates.
Homphobic slurs, racist slurs. The real you comes out for all to see, just like your clanmates.
I'm LGBT myself and totally cool with the word bundle of sticks being thrown around seeing as how its become an insult liken to "jerk", "idiot", "asshole" or other vague derogatory about the character(rather than sexuality or sexual activity) of a person. I don't like when people call it a homophobic slur when its clearly not being used in that way as it assumes that a "bundle of sticks" or LGBT person is a bad thing in itself, rather than an offensive thing to call one of those people.
When you assume offense for another person(although well-meaning(while wildly and blindly ignoring the context)), you are reinforcing the idea that it is wrong to be them. Really, you're just some tumblrmy old friend trying to be self-righteous.
P.S. you really do have to be the dumbest of the ravens, which is pretty low already - they were never known for creativity - playing the same class year after year without ever trying anything new - stupid ex-military mindset.
This "best admin" you talk bout would mainly play on a on a naked character with just a stick delaying and brocoding or a horse archer delaying while passing out the most ridiculous ban times for minor offenses to actual players. Everyone on NA has autism which is why we need EU admin.
And it seems like you have never played on EU much. If you did, you would know that it is way more retarded than NA.
If you did, you would know that it is way more retarded than NA.
it is way more retarded than NA.
more retarded than NA.
This "best admin" you talk about would mainly play on an armoured piker fighting terribly and dying early on to Zlotzfuck throwersor rarely a horse archer dismounting other horse archers while occasionally passing out bans on veteran trolls who repeatedly broke the rules despite being warned countless times. Everyone has autism which is why we need admins with a tiny bit less autism than the rest of us.
This "best admin" you talk about would mainly play on an armoured piker fighting terribly and dying early
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You talkin shit bout Dr. Professor and his poleplate strength crutch build?
No no no; if I were to be talking about Dr_Professor I would say this:
"Plate nerd with a long lawlpoke that fails at dying. period.stupid str crutchbaddie
It's like turks and Panos going mental at each other.
EU has a lot bigger population, relatively big amount of people aren't even talking english and some people aren't retarded (yes, some aren't).
As the person you are undoubtedly referencing here, I just got to laugh. You just insulted how many people with that jab? Probably people who are your friends and maybe even family members. Very funny Kesh, but also very sad.