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cRPG => Announcements => Topic started by: chadz on March 19, 2013, 12:05:01 am

Title: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: chadz on March 19, 2013, 12:05:01 am
Shik: female frame serb boots
Urist: RAGEBALL:
a)fixed tackle for alt mode weapons
b)nerfed tackle range, buffed for weak chars, increased cooldown
c)made fumble (throw) strength depended of difference to catch skill
d)fixed running kick for ranged
e)attempt to fix a dueling bug
Ozin: Siege update
Ozin: Updated ballista items, added wooden stakes item (should also be added to the shop)
Ozin: Texture optimizations by Zimke
Ozin: Implemented new icons for siege
Urist: RAGEBALL: -added minimum speed check for fumble and added goalie immunity for tackle
harald: Moved clan pages to a new main section (instead of just a tab under ladder).
Added rental system to clan armoury: armourer can set daily fees, members can borrow items themselves.
harald: Made the training lessons auction appear more often.
harald: Clan leadership claim: members can now take over a clan if the leaders went inactive.


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| [0] Long Pavise Shield                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Hand Pavise Shield                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 511                            | 365                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Sword                                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Arming Sword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Arming Sword                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Simple Sword                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 2                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 44 cut                         | 47 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Knightly Arming Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Large Warhorse                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 36                             | 34                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] War Horse                                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 36                             | 34                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Mamluk Horse                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 60046                          | 55323                         |
| charge                                             | 42                             | 40                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Cataphract Horse                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 38                             | 36                            |
| maneuver                                           | 40                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 38                             | 36                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Wooden Stakes                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Wooden Stakes                 |
| gold                                               |                                | 2880                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 0                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 25                            |
| missile speed                                      |                                | 1                             |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 100                           |
| accuracy                                           |                                | 100                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 70                            |
| max ammo                                           |                                | 1                             |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 1 cut                         |
| slots                                              |                                | 1                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Triangle Shield                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 602                            | 470                           |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Nordic Short War Sword                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 23 pierce                      | 24 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 29 cut                         | 31 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Nordic Sword                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Simple Nordic Sword                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Nordic Short Sword                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 23 pierce                      | 24 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Nordic War Sword                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Nordic Champion's Sword                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Hafted Blade                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 94                             | 97                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Plated Charger                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 35                             | 36                            |
| maneuver                                           | 36                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 46                             | 44                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Soldier's Cleaver                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.7                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Spiked Club                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 17 blunt                       | 20 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 25 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
| perks                                              | Unbalanced, Knockdown          | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long War Axe                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 15                             | 14                            |
| speed rating                                       | 92                             | 94                            |
| swing damage                                       | 44 cut                         | 42 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Military Cleaver                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2.5                            | 2.2                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Palfrey                                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 42                             | 44                            |
| charge                                             | 18                             | 14                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Padded Warhorse                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 42453                          | 29013                         |
| charge                                             | 36                             | 24                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Red Tassel Spear                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 15 blunt                       | 18 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Quarter Staff                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 1089                           | 1997                          |
| speed rating                                       | 100                            | 99                            |
| swing damage                                       | 19 blunt                       | 21 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Axe                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 97                            |
| swing damage                                       | 42 cut                         | 41 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Francisca (Primary)                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 4                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 35 cut                         | 31 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Arabian Guard Sword                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Arabian Arming Sword                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.5                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Arabian Straight Sword                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Arabian Warhorse                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 20                             | 13                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Desert Horse                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 16                             | 13                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Italian Sword                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Iron Staff                                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 23 blunt                       | 25 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Rouncey                                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 20                             | 12                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Arabian Cavalry Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 2.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Barded Warhorse                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 23493                          | 25782                         |
| body armor                                         | 29                             | 32                            |
| charge                                             | 36                             | 24                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Staff                                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 16 blunt                       | 18 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 16 blunt                       | 18 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Spear                                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 27 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 17 blunt                       | 19 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Boar Spear                                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 1180                           | 2974                          |
| thrust damage                                      | 27 pierce                      | 24 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 16 blunt                       | 21 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Spathion                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.8                           |
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 96                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
| slots                                              | 0                              | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Espada Eslavona                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.2                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 31 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Courser                                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 24                             | 15                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Charger                                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 37                             | 38                            |
| charge                                             | 40                             | 38                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Spathovaklion                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 96                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 0 pierce                      |
| perks                                              |                                | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Eastern Warhorse                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 120                            | 110                           |
| speed                                              | 38                             | 39                            |
| maneuver                                           | 40                             | 42                            |
| charge                                             | 38                             | 36                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Serbian Lamellar with Knee Cops                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| leg armor                                          | 12                             | 15                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Elite Scimitar                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Scimitar                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Paramerion                                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 6620                           | 10678                         |
| difficulty                                         | 12                             | 13                            |
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.6                           |
| speed rating                                       | 98                             | 96                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Shortened Spear                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 15 blunt                       | 18 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Eastern Horse                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 14145                          | 23981                         |
| difficulty                                         | 4                              | 8                             |
| hit points                                         | 90                             | 80                            |
| body armor                                         | 25                             | 6                             |
| speed                                              | 33                             | 44                            |
| maneuver                                           | 37                             | 44                            |
| charge                                             | 9                              | 11                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Side Sword                                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Espada Eslavona                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Destrier                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| body armor                                         | 27                             | 25                            |
| charge                                             | 33                             | 18                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Broad Short Sword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Long Spiked Club                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 18 blunt                       | 21 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 26 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
| perks                                              | Unbalanced, Knockdown          | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Long War Axe                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 15                             | 14                            |
| speed rating                                       | 92                             | 94                            |
| swing damage                                       | 45 cut                         | 43 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Spathovaklion                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 96                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 0 pierce                      |
| perks                                              |                                | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Staffkin's Staff                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 17 blunt                       | 19 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 17 blunt                       | 19 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Staffkin's Iron Staff                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 24 blunt                       | 26 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Staffkin's Quarter Staff                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 1634                           | 2996                          |
| speed rating                                       | 100                            | 99                            |
| swing damage                                       | 20 blunt                       | 22 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Long Axe                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 97                            |
| swing damage                                       | 43 cut                         | 42 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Long Pavise Shield                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Boar Spear                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 1770                           | 4461                          |
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 17 blunt                       | 22 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Large Warhorse                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 37                             | 35                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Hafted Blade                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 94                             | 97                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Red Tassel Spear                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 16 blunt                       | 19 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Spear                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 18 blunt                       | 20 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Shortened Spear                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 16 blunt                       | 19 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
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| [1] Well Bred Cataphract Horse                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 38                             | 36                            |
| maneuver                                           | 41                             | 40                            |
| charge                                             | 39                             | 37                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
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| [1] Tempered Arming Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 2                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 46 cut                         | 49 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Nordic Short War Sword                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 30 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Leather Scale Armor                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               | Thick Leather Scale Armor      |                               |
| gold                                               | 815                            |                               |
| difficulty                                         | 6                              |                               |
| weight                                             | 4.3                            |                               |
| body armor                                         | 25                             |                               |
| leg armor                                          | 9                              |                               |
| heirloom rank                                      | 1                              |                               |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Triangle Shield                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 617                            | 485                           |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Hand Pavise Shield                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 526                            | 380                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Serbian Lamellar with Knee Cops          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| leg armor                                          | 13                             | 16                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Francisca (Primary)                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 4                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 37 cut                         | 33 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Nordic Champion's Sword               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Knightly Arming Sword                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Long Arming Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Simple Nordic Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Nordic Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Nordic War Sword                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Nordic Short Sword                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred War Horse                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 37                             | 35                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Mamluk Horse                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 90069                          | 82985                         |
| charge                                             | 43                             | 41                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Italian Sword                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Long Espada Eslavona                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 29 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Soldier's Cleaver                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.7                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Military Cleaver                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2.5                            | 2.2                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Sword                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Sturdy Leather Scale Armor                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Sturdy Leather Scale Armor    |
| gold                                               |                                | 725                           |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 6                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 4.3                           |
| body armor                                         |                                | 25                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 9                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Eastern Warhorse                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 125                            | 115                           |
| speed                                              | 38                             | 39                            |
| maneuver                                           | 41                             | 43                            |
| charge                                             | 39                             | 37                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Espada Eslavona                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.2                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 32 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Broad Short Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Side Sword                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Arabian Straight Sword                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Arabian Arming Sword                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.5                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Spathion                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.8                           |
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 96                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
| slots                                              | 0                              | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Arabian Guard Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Desert Horse                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 17                             | 14                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Arabian Cavalry Sword                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 2.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Destrier                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| body armor                                         | 27                             | 25                            |
| charge                                             | 34                             | 19                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Courser                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 25                             | 16                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Palfrey                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 42                             | 44                            |
| charge                                             | 19                             | 15                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Padded Warhorse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 63680                          | 43520                         |
| charge                                             | 37                             | 25                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Eastern Horse                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 21218                          | 35972                         |
| difficulty                                         | 4                              | 8                             |
| hit points                                         | 95                             | 85                            |
| body armor                                         | 25                             | 6                             |
| speed                                              | 33                             | 44                            |
| maneuver                                           | 38                             | 45                            |
| charge                                             | 10                             | 12                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Rouncey                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 21                             | 13                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Plated Charger                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 35                             | 36                            |
| maneuver                                           | 37                             | 38                            |
| charge                                             | 47                             | 45                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Elite Scimitar                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Arabian Warhorse                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 21                             | 14                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Scimitar                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Paramerion                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 9930                           | 16017                         |
| difficulty                                         | 12                             | 13                            |
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.6                           |
| speed rating                                       | 98                             | 96                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Barded Warhorse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 35240                          | 38673                         |
| body armor                                         | 29                             | 32                            |
| charge                                             | 37                             | 25                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Charger                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 37                             | 38                            |
| charge                                             | 41                             | 39                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Simple Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Triangle Shield                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 634                            | 502                           |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Spathion                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.8                           |
| speed rating                                       | 98                             | 97                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
| slots                                              | 0                              | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Espada Eslavona                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.2                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 32 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Boar Spear                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 2124                           | 5353                          |
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 17 blunt                       | 22 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Staffman's Iron Staff                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 25 blunt                       | 27 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Staffman's Staff                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 18 blunt                       | 20 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 18 blunt                       | 20 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Staffman's Quarter Staff                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 1960                           | 3595                          |
| speed rating                                       | 100                            | 99                            |
| swing damage                                       | 21 blunt                       | 23 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Long Espada Eslavona                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 29 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Serbian Lamellar with Knee Cops     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| leg armor                                          | 15                             | 18                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Long Spiked Club                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 18 blunt                       | 21 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 27 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
| perks                                              | Unbalanced, Knockdown          | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Long War Axe                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 15                             | 14                            |
| speed rating                                       | 92                             | 94                            |
| swing damage                                       | 46 cut                         | 44 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Spathovaklion                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 96                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 32 pierce                      | 0 pierce                      |
| perks                                              |                                | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Leather Scale Armor                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               | Reinforced Leather Scale Armor |                               |
| gold                                               | 966                            |                               |
| difficulty                                         | 6                              |                               |
| weight                                             | 4.3                            |                               |
| body armor                                         | 27                             |                               |
| leg armor                                          | 11                             |                               |
| heirloom rank                                      | 2                              |                               |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Hand Pavise Shield                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 543                            | 397                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Long Pavise Shield                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Long Axe                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 97                            |
| swing damage                                       | 44 cut                         | 43 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Spear                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 18 blunt                       | 20 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Cataphract Horse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 39                             | 37                            |
| maneuver                                           | 42                             | 41                            |
| charge                                             | 40                             | 38                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Mamluk Horse                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 108083                         | 99581                         |
| charge                                             | 44                             | 42                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Large Warhorse                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 38                             | 36                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited War Horse                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 38                             | 36                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Thick Leather Scale Armor                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Leather Scale Armor     |
| gold                                               |                                | 815                           |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 6                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 4.3                           |
| body armor                                         |                                | 26                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 10                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Broad Short Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Francisca (Primary)                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 4                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 38 cut                         | 34 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 2                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 47 cut                         | 50 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Arabian Arming Sword                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.5                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Arabian Straight Sword                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Eastern Warhorse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 130                            | 120                           |
| speed                                              | 39                             | 40                            |
| maneuver                                           | 42                             | 44                            |
| charge                                             | 40                             | 38                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Eastern Horse                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 25461                          | 43166                         |
| difficulty                                         | 4                              | 8                             |
| hit points                                         | 100                            | 90                            |
| body armor                                         | 25                             | 6                             |
| speed                                              | 34                             | 45                            |
| maneuver                                           | 39                             | 46                            |
| charge                                             | 11                             | 13                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Plated Charger                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 36                             | 37                            |
| maneuver                                           | 38                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 48                             | 46                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Charger                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 38                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 42                             | 40                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Desert Horse                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 18                             | 15                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Arabian Warhorse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 22                             | 15                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Courser                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 26                             | 17                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Destrier                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| body armor                                         | 27                             | 25                            |
| charge                                             | 35                             | 20                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Rouncey                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 22                             | 14                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Padded Warhorse                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 76415                          | 52223                         |
| charge                                             | 38                             | 26                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Palfrey                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 43                             | 45                            |
| charge                                             | 20                             | 16                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Nordic Short War Sword                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 30 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Nordic Champion's Sword               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Elite Scimitar                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Paramerion                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 11916                          | 19220                         |
| difficulty                                         | 12                             | 13                            |
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.6                           |
| speed rating                                       | 99                             | 97                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Shortened Spear                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 16 blunt                       | 19 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Side Sword                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Scimitar                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Arabian Cavalry Sword                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 2.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Italian Sword                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Soldier's Cleaver                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.7                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Military Cleaver                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2.5                            | 2.2                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Red Tassel Spear                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 16 blunt                       | 19 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Barded Warhorse                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 42287                          | 46408                         |
| body armor                                         | 29                             | 32                            |
| charge                                             | 38                             | 26                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Simple Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Nordic Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Nordic Short Sword                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Nordic War Sword                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Arabian Guard Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Simple Nordic Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Knightly Arming Sword                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Sword                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Arming Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Long Arming Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Hafted Blade                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 95                             | 98                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterpiece Long Pavise Shield                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Leather Scale Armor                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               | Lordly Leather Scale Armor     |                               |
| gold                                               | 1148                           |                               |
| difficulty                                         | 6                              |                               |
| weight                                             | 4.3                            |                               |
| body armor                                         | 29                             |                               |
| leg armor                                          | 13                             |                               |
| heirloom rank                                      | 3                              |                               |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Serbian Lamellar with Knee Cops         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| leg armor                                          | 17                             | 20                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Francisca (Primary)                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 4                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 39 cut                         | 35 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 3                              | 2                             |
| thrust damage                                      | 48 cut                         | 51 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Arabian Warhorse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 24                             | 17                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Desert Horse                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 20                             | 17                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterpiece Hand Pavise Shield                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 564                            | 418                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterpiece Triangle Shield                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 655                            | 523                           |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Boar Spear                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 2596                           | 6543                          |
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 18 blunt                       | 23 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Spathion                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.8                           |
| speed rating                                       | 98                             | 97                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 26 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
| slots                                              | 0                              | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Arabian Guard Sword                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Arabian Arming Sword                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.5                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Broad Short Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Arabian Straight Sword              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Barded Warhorse                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 56383                          | 61877                         |
| body armor                                         | 33                             | 36                            |
| charge                                             | 40                             | 28                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Charger                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 39                             | 40                            |
| charge                                             | 44                             | 42                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion War Horse                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 40                             | 38                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Eastern Warhorse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| hit points                                         | 135                            | 125                           |
| speed                                              | 40                             | 41                            |
| maneuver                                           | 42                             | 44                            |
| charge                                             | 42                             | 40                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Large Warhorse                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 40                             | 38                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Mamluk Horse                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 144110                         | 132775                        |
| charge                                             | 46                             | 44                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Reinforced Leather Scale Armor                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Leather Scale Armor|
| gold                                               |                                | 966                           |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 6                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 4.3                           |
| body armor                                         |                                | 28                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 12                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Cataphract Horse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 40                             | 38                            |
| maneuver                                           | 42                             | 41                            |
| charge                                             | 42                             | 40                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Eastern Horse                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 33948                          | 57554                         |
| difficulty                                         | 4                              | 8                             |
| hit points                                         | 105                            | 95                            |
| body armor                                         | 29                             | 10                            |
| speed                                              | 35                             | 46                            |
| maneuver                                           | 39                             | 46                            |
| charge                                             | 13                             | 15                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Rouncey                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 24                             | 16                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Courser                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| charge                                             | 28                             | 19                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Plated Charger                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 37                             | 38                            |
| maneuver                                           | 38                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 50                             | 48                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Destrier                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| body armor                                         | 31                             | 29                            |
| charge                                             | 37                             | 22                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Palfrey                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 44                             | 46                            |
| charge                                             | 22                             | 18                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Padded Warhorse                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 101887                         | 69631                         |
| charge                                             | 40                             | 28                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Espada Eslavona                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.2                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 33 pierce                      | 34 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Long Espada Eslavona                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 32 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Nordic Short Sword                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Nordic War Sword                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Nordic Sword                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Simple Nordic Sword                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Long Arming Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Knightly Arming Sword               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Nordic Champion's Sword             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.8                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Nordic Short War Sword              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1                              | 1.1                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 32 cut                         | 34 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Staffmaster's Iron Staff                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 26 blunt                       | 28 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Staffmaster's Quarter Staff                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 2396                           | 4393                          |
| speed rating                                       | 101                            | 100                           |
| swing damage                                       | 22 blunt                       | 24 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Spathovaklion                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 96                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 33 pierce                      | 0 pierce                      |
| perks                                              |                                | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Long Spiked Club                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 19 blunt                       | 22 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 28 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
| perks                                              | Unbalanced, Knockdown          | Knockdown                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Long Axe                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 94                             | 98                            |
| swing damage                                       | 45 cut                         | 44 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Long War Axe                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 15                             | 14                            |
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 95                            |
| swing damage                                       | 47 cut                         | 45 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Arming Sword                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Sword                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Red Tassel Spear                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 17 blunt                       | 20 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Arabian Cavalry Sword               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 2.3                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Military Cleaver                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2.5                            | 2.2                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Soldier's Cleaver                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.7                            | 1.9                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Hafted Blade                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| difficulty                                         | 13                             | 12                            |
| speed rating                                       | 95                             | 98                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Italian Sword                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Scimitar                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Elite Scimitar                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Spear                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 32 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       | 19 blunt                       | 21 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Simple Sword                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Side Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 1.2                            | 1.4                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Shortened Spear                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 17 blunt                       | 20 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Paramerion                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 14564                          | 23492                         |
| difficulty                                         | 12                             | 13                            |
| weight                                             | 1.3                            | 1.6                           |
| speed rating                                       | 99                             | 97                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Staffmaster's Staff                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 19 blunt                       | 21 blunt                      |
| swing damage                                       | 19 blunt                       | 21 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 19, 2013, 12:09:40 am
ok, so when i chamber my maserwork long awlpike, it just stays chambered. both stab and overhead. QQ
chadz nerfed 2d polearms

every other weapon works perfectly

DIS THREAD GETS NO +1 FROM ME  :( :( :( :( :(


server update fixed it!

take my +1
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: PanPan on March 19, 2013, 12:09:53 am
Dat Patch :O
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Miwiw on March 19, 2013, 12:14:39 am
Destrier charge 33 -> 18

Nice!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Fips on March 19, 2013, 12:17:58 am
Me gusta!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 19, 2013, 12:18:43 am
will the wooden stakes work after server restart? i tried to spawn with it and it showed nothing in my hands. it looks like constr material in my inventory so i guess it is used like that?

nvm works like a charm!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Knitler on March 19, 2013, 12:18:53 am
Me gusta!

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Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Renay on March 19, 2013, 12:19:09 am
Ok, first of all I hate you for making the red tassle spear unsheathable...

second, my game is totally bugged, I cant overhead or sideswing anymore, it does the animation and then its stuck as if holding the attack.

Oh and also, I hit invisible shields, flying in the air
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: dynamike on March 19, 2013, 12:19:31 am
What about xbows, any word on a better fix than 2-slotting almost all of them?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on March 19, 2013, 12:19:55 am
Heavy Throwing Axes...How could they...
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on March 19, 2013, 12:20:37 am
2h remains untouched.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: oohillac on March 19, 2013, 12:22:30 am
Courser charge damage nerf?

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FINALLY
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: miggy on March 19, 2013, 12:23:19 am
buff nerfing

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Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Phew on March 19, 2013, 12:23:38 am
Balanced all the newly added items, and correctly I might add. Loving these new patch notes. I lose a third of my heavy throwing axe supply, but gain some damage, so I'll manage.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Dexxtaa on March 19, 2013, 12:25:02 am
Charge lowered across the board.

I guess we need to get more horses to offset this reduction!!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: BeastSVK on March 19, 2013, 12:25:35 am
Ozin: Siege update
Ozin: Updated ballista items, added wooden stakes item (should also be added to the shop)
i have qlue what are stakes for but ballista items ?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Chilled_SWF on March 19, 2013, 12:26:27 am
Goodbuy Rouncy. You were a good friend.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Zaren on March 19, 2013, 12:27:35 am
Destrier got nerfed 15?  I have no problem with a nerf....but 15?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Stormcrow on March 19, 2013, 12:31:16 am
This game is such a joke. Spend 90+ hours to get a +3 item then they nerf it and your left with a useless piece of shit. Then they ask you for money to create a new shitty game so that they can do the same thing. This is probably the most retarded game I have ever played. Sure most games have there flaws but at least for the most part they are fair and consistent. I feel sorry for all you fools who gave your hard earned money to this rabble, you would have been better off burning it and heating your home. Wave goodbye to your "investment" and enjoy having chadz shit all over you in years to come.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: miggy on March 19, 2013, 12:32:14 am
shots fired
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Algarn on March 19, 2013, 12:32:26 am
That's a horse without any armor , that's normal then he makes less damages than an armored horse  :P  I'm happy for the ballista and all other things ...
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Warborn304 on March 19, 2013, 12:33:18 am
So is this just another way to nerf cav, and everything else, to have 2h be the superior master race?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: chadz on March 19, 2013, 12:34:06 am
This game is such a joke. Spend 90+ hours to get a +3 item then they nerf it and your left with a useless piece of shit. Then they ask you for money to create a new shitty game so that they can do the same thing. This is probably the most retarded game I have ever played. Sure most games have there flaws but at least for the most part they are fair and consistent. I feel sorry for all you fools who gave your hard earned money to this rabble, you would have been better off burning it and heating your home. Wave goodbye to your "investment" and enjoy having chadz shit all over you in years to come.

:lol:

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Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Shemaforash on March 19, 2013, 12:34:42 am
So is this just another way to nerf cav, and everything else, to have 2h be the superior master race?

pretty much

Feels good to become cavalry two days ago and what I get right now is a heavily nerfed horse when cavalry didn't even need a nerf. GG


There's something wrong when native hunters have more charge dmg than a crpg destrier, considering crpg is balanced for heavy armor and native isn't
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Pandemona on March 19, 2013, 12:36:54 am
I'm okay with the update, but.

Would you give me my loompoints on Destrier back ?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Algarn on March 19, 2013, 12:37:29 am
We want ladders back in siege !!!!   :)
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: BASNAK on March 19, 2013, 12:37:57 am
Great job on the new clan page. Stakes are awesome too. Dont understand Ballistas though. EU2 only, are they built or already exist in every map?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Braeden on March 19, 2013, 12:40:13 am
R.I.P. Heavy Throwing Axes
I will always miss you.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: _RXN_ on March 19, 2013, 12:40:52 am
Nice one, thanks!

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Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 19, 2013, 12:45:28 am
so alt crashes the game?

edit2: it surely does
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: cmp on March 19, 2013, 12:49:05 am
Cataphract change is a mistake, it should be 40 speed instead of 36. Gonna be fixed in next patch.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: XyNox on March 19, 2013, 12:50:45 am
Bump damage: NERFED

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Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: vipere on March 19, 2013, 12:55:16 am
Thanks for this new patch !

The long spiked club is still not knockdown :/
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 19, 2013, 12:56:49 am
so now in siege, the flag goes up or down when one of both teams has one/multiple more defender(s)/attacker(s) on the flag?
and we can ask a daily fee for borrowing items via the armoury :D
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Corsair831 on March 19, 2013, 01:15:07 am
best patch ever.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Dach on March 19, 2013, 01:15:47 am
Nerf.... lol...

oh well not really some polearm got a buff... especially the staff, quarterstaff, ironstaff which didn't need one  :lol:

and how strange... 2H slipped the nerf bat again!  :rolleyes:

edit: FAIL again... Cata vs Large warhorse

You pays the cataphract 9515 gold more for -10 hp, +4 body armor,  -2 maneuver, +2 charge.

Did I need to tell you which one anyone will take?!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Hobb on March 19, 2013, 01:45:56 am
make bump damage 0 in exchange for the lances doing damage again.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: LordLargos on March 19, 2013, 01:47:37 am
Heh, Nordic champ sword weighs as much as a longsword but longsword is superior in every other stat, anyone know the penalties for using longsword as 1h? 2h yet again remains unbuffed while cav gets nerfed to shit.
No, a heraldic version will be added next time.
Also you guys promised me, LIARS!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Count_Adhamar on March 19, 2013, 01:55:24 am
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
|
  • Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)                   | old                            | new                           |

|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                                      | 3                               | 2                             |
| thrust damage                                                  | 44 cut                        | 47 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|

Revert this, this change isn't necessary nor condoned.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on March 19, 2013, 01:55:39 am
Only 2 heavy throwing axes in a stack now?
( I noticed the damage increase but that is not enough for a 33% reduction in ammo)

Are you trying to ruin throwing?

How did throwing deserve such a nerf?

And with this nerrf i could take 12 Franscisas or 9 throwing axes or 6 heavy throwing axes for my cut damage.

Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Ragnar_Ulfson on March 19, 2013, 01:59:25 am
So yea, curious the decision to buff Red Tassel, make it faster and blunt equivalent to War Spear, but War spear stays the same, more expensive and less speed???  Come on now.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tydeus on March 19, 2013, 02:02:12 am
Nerf.... lol...

oh well not really some polearm got a buff... especially the staff, quarterstaff, ironstaff which didn't need one  :lol:

and how strange... 2H slipped the nerf bat again!  :rolleyes:
Something about too many nerfs, now time for buffs, idk. I hear that if you have an op weapon, and then you buff everything else, that weapon isn't as good anymore. So, nerfbuffinglynerfbuffs?

So yea, curious the decision to buff Red Tassel, make it faster and blunt equivalent to War Spear, but War spear stays the same, more expensive and less speed???  Come on now.
War Spear was supposed to receive +2b on swings. Should be fixed with the next patch.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: LordLargos on March 19, 2013, 02:02:13 am
Largos: You have allowed this 2h shit to twist your mind, until now...Until now, you have become the very thing you swore to destroy.

chadz: Don't lecture me, Largos. I see through the lies of the community. I do not fear the overpowered 2h as you do!

chadz: I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new patch.

Largos: Your new patch?

Chardz: Don't make me nerf you.

Largos: chadz, my allegiance is to the community, to democracy!

chadz: If you're not with me, then you are my enemy.

Largos: Only a badmin deals in absolutes. I will do what I must.

chadz: You will try.

Largos: chadz, I have failed you.

chadz: I should've known the community were plotting to take over!

Largos: chadz, cmp is evil!

chadz: From my point of view, the community are evil!

Largos: Well, then, you are lost!

chadz: This is the end for 1h.

Largos: It's over, chadz! I have the support of the forums.

chadz: You under-estimate my power!

Largos: Don't do it!

Largos: You were the Chosen One! It was said you would destroy the OP 2handers, not join them! Bring balance to Crpg, not leave it in darkness!

Largos: You were my favorite game, Crpg. I loved you!

Uhm yeah rights reserved to lucasfilms kinda?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Fips on March 19, 2013, 02:05:44 am
Best patch EVER.

I see fucking awesome siege maps incoming.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Penitent on March 19, 2013, 02:06:09 am
This is awesome!  I can't wait to see the spikes.

New items fixed, but I still think there may be a couple adjustments needed.  Look at Nordic Short war Sword VS.  Nordic War Sword.   Nordic Short War Sword is better in almost every way AND 0 slot.   Nordic War Sword has +14 length, but is worse in every other way almost.

Nordic Short War Sword
weapon length: 81
speed rating: 103
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 31 cut
slots: 0
cost: 3835

Nordic War Sword
weapon length: 95
speed rating: 99
thrust damage: 22 pierce
swing damage: 31 cut
slots: 1
cost: 5772
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Ragnar_Ulfson on March 19, 2013, 02:07:08 am
War Spear was supposed to receive +2b on swings. Should be fixed with the next patch.

Cool, that's good to know thanks Tydeus.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 19, 2013, 02:19:45 am
Who's the sleep-deprived lazy-ass who nerfed the Cataphract and did not bother to lower the price thus making it literally worse in absolutely every way compared to the identically priced Eastern Warhorse?

Cataphract change is a mistake, it should be 40 speed instead of 36. Gonna be fixed in next patch.

Is Fasader back?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Emotion on March 19, 2013, 02:28:14 am
+1
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MarktpLatz on March 19, 2013, 03:05:05 am
Wooden Stakes are awesome  :shock:
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Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: ShinySpoons on March 19, 2013, 03:05:28 am
Not sure if this is a mistake or not, but Eastern Horse is 8 difficulty o.o
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tydeus on March 19, 2013, 03:13:57 am
Not sure if this is a mistake or not, but Eastern Horse is 8 difficulty o.o
Intended, it is the best horse, outside of survivability.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 19, 2013, 04:11:08 am
Intended, it is the best horse, outside of survivability.

I would disagree.

Best is relative. 8 riding requires a significant point investment. If I want to ride a good horse, I'll take the 15/21 route(or better) and ride the Arabian with more everything but speed. 12/24 for a horse(without forcing point conversion) is pretty damn pathetic.(Not saying you can't make a build for it, but a decent build for the eastern will take up lots of points(8) at level 30 and you'd be forced to take a pretty nasty point reduction elsewhere.)

Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Joker86 on March 19, 2013, 04:17:38 am
Some (or most) stat changes are a bit... well... weird? At least they don't fit to the usual opinions in the community. E.g. nerfing throwing axes. And again there are items which are absolutely preferable above others. But I guess a few more patches and the balance will be quite good. And those changelogs are definitely a boon.

But the bump damage reduction indeed is awesome. Whoever complains about his loomed horse now being worthless should please grab hs own cock, pull it between the legs, stick it in his butt, and fuck himself. Horses are not meant to make your kills, you are.

Edit: can someone explain me what a ballista is? I know, it's a giant crossbow siege machine, smartasses. I mean where can I see what it does? Is it one of those strategus thingies I never saw due to my animosity towards strat?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MrShine on March 19, 2013, 04:20:07 am
one of the items I use got buffed.







best patch ever
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Hobb on March 19, 2013, 04:23:24 am
constructable items with wheels were bugged in the strat battles post patch. I.E catapults/large siege towers
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Dach on March 19, 2013, 04:25:01 am
@Joker: Well sorry, If I pay an upkeep of 4592 gold I expect the damn thing to get me kill...  :P

Light horse I'm fine with that.

I agree 8 riding on the weakest horse (survavibility-wise) is dumb... it's exactly the same problem as the current AGI vs STR problem we have right now.

STR is clearly more efficient and require less sacrifice...

 :!:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: FrugFrug on March 19, 2013, 04:31:51 am
NA Rageball still broken...  :cry:

Shortened spear was buffed though... Should I be happy or sad?  :?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Joker86 on March 19, 2013, 04:36:20 am
@Joker: Well sorry, If I pay an upkeep of 4592 gold I expect the damn thing to get me kill...  :P

I guess I am right if I assume that you are only joking, but just to prevent some smartasses of actually believing that philosophy:

You pay the upkeep for the higher mobility, which is an incredible advantage on the battlefield. It protects you, allows you to pick your targets, allows you to avoid dangerous opponents and makes your attacks deadlier by adding a good amount of speed bonus. I guess that's enough advantages for your money. Getting kills as reward for keeping [W] pressed is kind of lame  :P
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tydeus on March 19, 2013, 04:38:01 am
You missed the point of that horse entirely, Anders. It's a horse mainly for lancers, and I mean the particularly skilled ones. If you don't get hit you don't need as much survivability. So now there's a fast and mobile horse that fills a niche that crpg was lacking. Also, your post seems likely QQ because you aren't able to have everything you want and ride an amazing horse at the same time.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 19, 2013, 05:05:40 am
You missed the point of that horse entirely, Anders. It's a horse mainly for lancers, and I mean the particularly skilled ones. If you don't get hit you don't need as much survivability. So now there's a fast and mobile horse that fills a niche that crpg was lacking. Also, your post seems likely QQ because you aren't able to have everything you want and ride an amazing horse at the same time.

Arabian is much the same as this new horse. Even though you have 3 more speed and 1 more riding, your net gain is not as high as the arabian MANUVER AND SPEED. Arabian, under a skilled horseman, can pull off dimes. But that's really playstyle and opinion.

So lets go with this, a BARE MINIMUM lancer build for this horse.
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You have 13 points left over. 13, that's alright, but you can do only 1 thing, Ride and hit with 4 PS. Even with SPEED bonus, a Lancer who's 15/21 gets a greater benefit to combat(as PS will be Higher, and WPF only slightly lower) and does more damage.

So, lets say you go 15 str. You lose 6 points from conversions, and 1 from PS conversion, leaving you with 6 points. Mind you, you have no Ath, no IF, low(ish) strength. 6 points left, you can go either Ath or IF(the most reasonable choices left for you), you could, if you really wanted go WM but that's preference on how much WPF you want.

So assuming the build I said uses a Mix of Ath/IF.
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Now compare to this:
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Or....
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I mean, by FORCING 24 Agi on someone(anyone) you've pretty much forced them into a glass cannon(at best) role. Where as the 21 Agi horseman  can not only play as well as(and better, even) than the 24 agi, he gets a horse with more HP, ARMOR, CHARGE, MANUEVER, and IS CHEAPER(the Arabian), Compared to the Eastern which has only TOP SPEED on the other horse.  In addition, Balancing based on the "Best Players" is by far the most screwed up thing I have EVER heard. Crpg isn't balanced by the top teir, it's balanced by the normal, average player.

You get better skill points, a "Better" horse, and Better character at 21 Agi. In addition, stacking Agi doesn't give the benefit that stacking strength does, and as a 24 Agi player, if you get a no/bad horse map, 80% of your build is GONE. It's nice that the horse is as good as it is, it just will never get it's use in. Practicality, Expediency and Experience of any horseman could tell you that high agi lancing is very bad. You haven't played Cav in a long time have you?

Also, as you may not know, lance difficulty is 10 so that means that they need at minimum a 10-24 build to use that horse and get ANYTHING out of it.(other than maybe using 2 couch only lances and Light lances)

Going to make a small edit here: At high levels, this horse is probably more than fine, but that should not be the balance limit. You should balance at level 30-31.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tydeus on March 19, 2013, 05:20:41 am
In addition, Balancing based on the "Best Players" is by far the most screwed up thing I have EVER heard. Crpg isn't balanced by the top teir, it's balanced by the normal, average player.
Now you're just being utterly ridiculous, Anders. I'ts a single horse, not the entire class or the entire mod for that matter. It's one horse that you don't have access to because you're not willing to make sacrifices in your build. Fortunately, other people are and I already know of one person who is in the process of looming this horse, and I plan to do the same as well. It may need a slight buff to properly fill the desired niche, but for the most part I think it's in a pretty good spot, with the 8 requirement being a very important balancing factor.

(Oh, and since you obviously aren't aware, all of the best dedicated lancers than NA has ever had, have been extremely high agility builds. Rohypnol for example, in his prime, would do 11 str, high skill point conversion builds and get 7:1+ K:D ratios for the gen.)
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Dach on March 19, 2013, 05:32:58 am
Well I'm fine if someone like Roh use that horse! The horse will die in the first minute of the round by ranged everytime... unless he hide in a corner until all ranged are dead...

Then he'll probably go back to more resistant horse to get back his 7:1 K/D lol...

Btw the last time I saw Roh doing great on a horse... he was on a Cataphract and had a long hafted spiked mace as a side arm... which require 16 str...  :wink:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Rhygar666 on March 19, 2013, 05:40:23 am
 Triangle Shield                                 old                            new                         

| hit points                                               602                          470                           

seriously no speed nerf for that shield? its ridicioulous to have 97 speed or more when loomed.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 19, 2013, 05:40:59 am
Undo the changes to the armory system, please.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 19, 2013, 05:41:43 am
Now you're just being utterly ridiculous, Anders. I'ts a single horse, not the entire class or the entire mod for that matter. It's one horse that you don't have access to because you're not willing to make sacrifices in your build. Fortunately, other people are and I already know of one person who is in the process of looming this horse, and I plan to do the same as well. It may need a slight buff to properly fill the desired niche, but for the most part I think it's in a pretty good spot, with the 8 requirement being a very important balancing factor.

(Oh, and since you obviously aren't aware, all of the best dedicated lancers than NA has ever had, have been extremely high agility builds. Rohypnol for example, in his prime, would do 11 str, high skill point conversion builds and get 7:1+ K:D ratios for the gen.)

I'll never ride it, or the arabian. I prefer my Rouncy, and Occasionally use a Destrier. 5 riding, or 6 is my max, just the way I play. I also don't play lance cav and probably never will. I'm not a Pure build, and never will play a pure build. Sure I can get awesome KDR, but KDR isn't what this game is about. It's about doing what's fun and what I like.

Honestly, the reason I'm arguing for the "One Horse" is because I feel that stats like that are not good for Cav. If the guy you have who's "Looming" it can be named and then lets check how much he likes it afterwords, lets see then wheter or not it was a good idea?
Honestly, it's slower than a courser, less manueverable than a Arabian. Instead of balancing it that way, why not reverse the arabian and the Eastern. The arabian would be the Manueverable monster, the Courser the Speedy Ferrari, and the Eastern the Average Joe of the 3.(but you shouldn't make it 8 riding!)

It's all opinion, and Honestly, I'd like to see some of the community be put into the item balance team already so we have more than the, maybe 4?, balancers we have now. More people, more opinions, more ideas. I'd join but I'm sure I'd be veto'd for wanting to Buff Godendag and other random weapons cause they are rather random in their use :wink:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: owens on March 19, 2013, 05:51:23 am
Im happy with the balancing.

Some small errors or oversights but to be fair we have near enought 1000 items and balancing them all to perfection would be cray.


I like the idea of restricting certain gear to certain builds and i would love to see a low teir throwing or bow that required high strength. Or a 8 shield skill requirement shield that is low tier due to the strength sacrifice not because of bad stats.

Or a 1 hander with very high damage and low speed but required 22 str so the standard 21/15 build broke down.




Maybe a special x-bow that requires power draw in exchange for a slight stats or slots sacrifice making your build fairly specific PD with no archery wpf.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Kelugarn on March 19, 2013, 05:57:18 am
This is the update of my dreams. All my dreams. I love you guys so much.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: The_Devious_Duc_Volpe on March 19, 2013, 06:21:54 am
my +3 Espada doesn't suck anymore... that's cool.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Inglorious on March 19, 2013, 06:50:37 am
Armory is bugged

Also, with all the applications going in for balance team, I hope they come in soon... because damn, some of the changes for this patch were interesting to say the least. The horses are what I'm focused on. I agree with what Tydeus said completely of the eastern, but some of the other horses are now more of a preferential choice to own them rather than purchase based around stats due to almost no advantage of picking 1 over the other.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Vibe on March 19, 2013, 07:42:39 am
Good changes. Getting bumped to death is still one of the most frustrating deaths.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 19, 2013, 08:01:11 am
You can't even apply to a clan right now.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Asheram on March 19, 2013, 08:32:51 am
This game is such a joke. Spend 90+ hours to get a +3 item then they nerf it and your left with a useless piece of shit. Then they ask you for money to create a new shitty game so that they can do the same thing. This is probably the most retarded game I have ever played. Sure most games have there flaws but at least for the most part they are fair and consistent. I feel sorry for all you fools who gave your hard earned money to this rabble, you would have been better off burning it and heating your home. Wave goodbye to your "investment" and enjoy having chadz shit all over you in years to come.
All I can an say is I am glad I didnt buy into that new game crap.If they are going to bait you with a weapon that you think you can keep your build alive with then nerf it to be pretty much the same as knightly arming sword but 2000 more in cost and not refund looms spent in it after said nerf well I guess I am the idiot but hey will be an idiot with my money(my real life money) still in my pocket.
They need to make some better 0 slot shields if they arent going to readjust for 1h/shield xbow use.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: ShinySpoons on March 19, 2013, 08:36:25 am
Now you're just being utterly ridiculous, Anders. I'ts a single horse, not the entire class or the entire mod for that matter. It's one horse that you don't have access to because you're not willing to make sacrifices in your build. Fortunately, other people are and I already know of one person who is in the process of looming this horse, and I plan to do the same as well. It may need a slight buff to properly fill the desired niche, but for the most part I think it's in a pretty good spot, with the 8 requirement being a very important balancing factor.

(Oh, and since you obviously aren't aware, all of the best dedicated lancers than NA has ever had, have been extremely high agility builds. Rohypnol for example, in his prime, would do 11 str, high skill point conversion builds and get 7:1+ K:D ratios for the gen.)

I am a lance cav, champ arab. When I'm actually playing to win rather then dicking around I'm generally a top 3 player. At any rate, I'm mostly in agreement with Tydeus here. Unloomed I'd rather have a arab or courser due to it allowing a specialized playstyle, but loomed I'd definitely get this horse. The (lack) of survivability is a good balance for its stats I feel. Unless the rider is playing well (i.e smart) they'll be on their feet fairly quick. Frankly, I feel a dif 7 would be more appropriate for it, but I haven't tried it out yet so my opinion is fairly moot.

Pointless aside: I instadie on loomed coursers due to how fun going superspeed is.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: zottlmarsch on March 19, 2013, 09:32:56 am
Not sure about this 'claim leadership' and especially not after just 5 days, does that mean that if you go away on a holiday you could come back and some random member has taken leadership of your clan, Fuck That!!!!!!

Also would be cool if armoury 'managers' could still lend items to specific clan members too, just to make it quicker and easier when taking an item off a member and lending it to someone else.

All the other website stuff looks pretty cool  :D
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Molly on March 19, 2013, 09:40:23 am
Not sure my GLA is now better or worse...  :?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: DaveUKR on March 19, 2013, 09:57:09 am
You missed the point of that horse entirely, Anders. It's a horse mainly for lancers, and I mean the particularly skilled ones. If you don't get hit you don't need as much survivability. So now there's a fast and mobile horse that fills a niche that crpg was lacking. Also, your post seems likely QQ because you aren't able to have everything you want and ride an amazing horse at the same time.

Besides the fact that this horse can be 1shot with such stats  :lol:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: KingBread on March 19, 2013, 11:24:04 am
When i was able to choose my spawn point on siege i cried a river. BEST PATCH EVER its even hard to find any change to say that At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square. now.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: BeastSVK on March 19, 2013, 11:28:36 am
guys can anybody tell me what are those new Balista Items ???
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Lennu on March 19, 2013, 11:28:59 am
My Long War Axe lost 2 damage.... and gained 2 speed  :cry:
This made me very very sad, people were already raging about my spam :lol:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Kafein on March 19, 2013, 11:31:40 am
My Long War Axe lost 2 damage.... and gained 2 speed  :cry:
This made me very very sad, people were already raging about my spam :lol:

Wait what ?

Seriously ? 94 speed LWA ? The fuck are they thinking.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Paul on March 19, 2013, 11:40:37 am
guys can anybody tell me what are those new Balista Items ???

The ballistae (items) are used on some Siege maps only. It's a stationary weapon placed by the scene creator and can't be carried, equipped, build or even bought.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: BeastSVK on March 19, 2013, 11:46:27 am
The ballistae (items) are used on some Siege maps only. It's a stationary weapon placed by the scene creator and can't be carried, equipped, build or even bought.
what a pitty i tought it can be builded in strat also. maybe in future
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Mlekce on March 19, 2013, 11:49:45 am
Omg this is so fucking awesome. You buffed stuff i have,and nerfed all other people shit.

Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Lars on March 19, 2013, 12:06:05 pm
Imo a stack of heavy throwing axes weights a bit too much now, it weights 4, (the same as before the patch) but now you have one less ammo per stack.

1 stack of Franciscas :arrow: max ammo= 4 , weight= 2 (0,5 "Kilos" per ammo)

1 stack of throwing axes :arrow: max ammo= 3, weight= 3 ( 1 "kilo" per ammo)

1 stack of heavy throwing axes   :arrow: max ammo = 2, weight= 4 (2 "kilos" per ammo)

I think that maybe the weight of a stack of heavy throwing axes should be lowered by 1, so a stack would weight 3  (1.5 kilos per ammo)


The damage (primary mode) of  heavy throwing axes is 47C now, but i don't like odd numbers 8-), could you change it to 48 please  :mrgreen: muahahahah

edit: 50C would be better 8-) ,  afterall it's   2 ammo instead of 3
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tovi on March 19, 2013, 12:16:03 pm
Overall good patch.

But : -Eastern horse diff 8 should be 7
-Nordic short sword is OP (should have less cut).
NOTE : the way a sword cut IRL depends mostly of the lenght of the blade ! Try with a piece of meat and 2 knifes of different lenght at home.
- Leather scale armor should cost around 1000 gold (compared to other armors)
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tydeus on March 19, 2013, 12:17:01 pm
1 stack of Franciscas :arrow: max ammo= 4 , weight= 2 (0,5 "Kilos" per ammo)
Hmmm... It was supposed to have been scaled down to represent the reduced ammo count, while keeping the same weight per axe.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: NJ_Legion_Icedtea on March 19, 2013, 12:24:47 pm
MW heavy axes 51 DAMAGE!!!
I don't care about only having 2 axes! I am going to have some fun! :D
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: BlindGuy on March 19, 2013, 12:45:39 pm
Nothing I have got buffed. Everything I have got nerfed. Business as usual then.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Torben on March 19, 2013, 12:48:40 pm
My Long War Axe lost 2 damage.... and gained 2 speed  :cry:
This made me very very sad, people were already raging about my spam :lol:

i thought about you when seeing the lwa change ^^  but look at the long axe!  ever crazier haha
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tovi on March 19, 2013, 12:49:59 pm
Some siege maps are bugged : the flag is stuck and the timer goes for ever.

Wooden stacks are too cheaty on siege maps.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Ronin on March 19, 2013, 12:56:39 pm
Destrier charge 18 from 33. What kind of a horse is it now?

Nevermind, that is to buff heavy horses I think. Every horse does less charge now.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tovi on March 19, 2013, 01:11:58 pm
Destrier charge 18 from 33. What kind of a horse is it now?

Nevermind, that is to buff heavy horses I think. Every horse does less charge now.

+1 : Destrier was a kind of light charger.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Ronin on March 19, 2013, 01:19:39 pm
It was a light-heavy horse always. I see it is still so. It's still the toughest light horse. It's just that, heavy horses are tougher now; the way it should be in my opinion. I find this change, very good to my liking.

Besides, for those who think charge damage nerfed; yes it is nerfed. But it's not like that you were doing 20 damage with bumps. The main feature of cavalry was bump-slashing, or lance-bumping. The bumps will just do less damage now, but the damage is not that much important as I said. The main benefit of bumping is breaking the guard of the enemy, or possibly knocking him down.

Edit: Umm the eastorn horse looks a bit weird though. 8 difficulty and 6 armor only. Something in the middle between courser and arabian warhorse, manueverable and fast. A good idea maybe, but 6 armor won't save him from much of arrows.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 19, 2013, 01:36:56 pm
Now for the development of the ballista for siege or battle :D
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Ronin on March 19, 2013, 01:43:56 pm
Good thing I added a ballista to the siege castle I'm making already :P
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 19, 2013, 02:09:37 pm
Good thing I added a ballista to the siege castle I'm making already :P
add 10
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: zagibu on March 19, 2013, 02:11:45 pm
Too bad they don't work correctly yet.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: chadz on March 19, 2013, 03:07:43 pm
Hotfix:

Harald: Moved the clan journal under the miscellaneous tab.
Harald: Fixed label on server list for new siege mode.
Ozin: Siege fixes:
- Left alt menu crash
- Round not ending at 0:00
- Classic maps now end when flag goes neutral (flag behavior very similar to old siege)
- Report button changed from M to Ctrl-M
- Stakes now only damage horses after they have stopped moving
- Ballista errors fixed, animation duration fixed


_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 4                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Francisca (Primary)                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Cataphract Horse                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 36                             | 40                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] War Spear                                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 18 blunt                       | 20 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly War Spear                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 19 blunt                       | 21 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 4                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Cataphract Horse                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 36                             | 40                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Francisca (Primary)                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Cataphract Horse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 37                             | 41                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 4                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced War Spear                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 19 blunt                       | 21 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Francisca (Primary)                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork War Spear                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 20 blunt                       | 22 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Heavy Throwing Axe (Primary)        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 4                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Francisca (Primary)                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 2                              | 2.7                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Cataphract Horse                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed                                              | 38                             | 42                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Kafein on March 19, 2013, 03:15:03 pm
Wait, nerf the fransisca and buff the heavy throwing axes ?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Phew on March 19, 2013, 03:18:37 pm
Wait, nerf the fransisca and buff the heavy throwing axes ?

Francisca is .66 kg per axe, and you get 4. HTA is 1.33 kg per axe and you get 2. They just forgot to update the weights for the new quantities last patch. The weights per axe didn't change for either.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: zagibu on March 19, 2013, 03:31:47 pm
Hotfix

Awesome, you guys are fast!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Kafein on March 19, 2013, 04:00:01 pm
Francisca is .66 kg per axe, and you get 4. HTA is 1.33 kg per axe and you get 2. They just forgot to update the weights for the new quantities last patch. The weights per axe didn't change for either.

Ho okay, I didn't knew the ammo capacities changed.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Vermilion on March 19, 2013, 04:11:09 pm
Nerf horse charge....

But... But...

What about battles like this one (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2592) where both sides only had horses?

It will just be a stand still until the timer runs out..

Also has anyone ever seen someone get hit by a horse charging?
It ends in a trip to the hospital!


I think adding Wooden stakes was the answer.... nurfing charge also is over kill!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Silveredge on March 19, 2013, 04:22:44 pm
Ballista Damage/Speed/Reload is increased by Xbow weapon proficiency right?  Would make sense for Ballista to be best manned by experienced crossbowmen.  Would be quite awesome actually, it's just a REALLY big crossbow.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: FrugFrug on March 19, 2013, 04:23:20 pm
Has the Shortened Spear always only gotten 2+ to swings when 3+?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Patoson on March 19, 2013, 04:48:08 pm
I haven't been able to find a recent 2h balance thread, so I'll use the opportunity to write my suggestion regarding 2h balance: since the replacement of stab for polearms' has never been generally accepted, how about replacing the other attacks with polearms'? (shorter reach for left swing and overhead)

Since the most common complaint are the animations, I think that would be a proper change. As a pure 2h for most of my playtime, I agree that 2h animations are extremely easy and "exploitable".
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Knitler on March 19, 2013, 04:50:25 pm
I haven't been able to find a recent 2h balance thread, so I'll use the opportunity to write my suggestion regarding 2h balance: since the replacement of stab for polearms' has never been generally accepted, how about replacing the other attacks with polearms'? (shorter reach for left swing and overhead)

Since the most common complaint are the animations, I think that would be a proper change. As a pure 2h for most of my playtime, I agree that 2h animations are extremely easy and "exploitable".

You are my hero ... well the 2H stab should be like in polearm mode ... that would be great, cause its the most retarded thing. The Sideswings can stay how they are now.
And its not even realistic ....with that much dmg
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Glaurung on March 19, 2013, 05:10:54 pm
The new shields are still very op. The hand pavise is till too strong or fast. Why would anyone use the elite cav shield or the heavy round shield anymore? You can't even use the heavy round shield on horseback!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Austrian on March 19, 2013, 05:12:14 pm
I love you for nerfing cav chadz <3
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Falka on March 19, 2013, 05:24:52 pm
Whoever complains about his loomed horse now being worthless should please grab hs own cock, pull it between the legs, stick it in his butt, and fuck himself. Horses are not meant to make your kills, you are.

+1000  :lol:

The hand pavise is till too strong or fast. Why would anyone use the elite cav shield or the heavy round shield anymore?

Because these 2 shields look awesome and hand pavise looks like shit?  :P I, for one, will use heavy board shield no matter what :P
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Prpavi on March 19, 2013, 05:30:31 pm
the game is laggy and increasingly unplayble.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 19, 2013, 05:36:06 pm
Edit: can someone explain me what a ballista is? I know, it's a giant crossbow siege machine, smartasses. I mean where can I see what it does? Is it one of those strategus thingies I never saw due to my animosity towards strat?


Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Latvian on March 19, 2013, 05:40:12 pm
the game is laggy and increasingly unplayble.
that
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: NuberT on March 19, 2013, 05:50:33 pm
I played shorted spear for over a year, traded it away like a month ago and now they buff it bigtime :mrgreen:

yeehaw long maul ignored again :3

But I like the changes so far, but yeah its laggy..
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Phew on March 19, 2013, 06:01:44 pm
The new shields are still very op. The hand pavise is till too strong or fast. Why would anyone use the elite cav shield or the heavy round shield anymore? You can't even use the heavy round shield on horseback!

Hand Pavise is about 8% more durable than the Knightly Heater against normal cut weapons, and significantly more so against shield breakers and pierce/blunt. It also weighs 1 kg less. Same size/speed.

However, Hand Pavise looks like a roofing tile whereas Knightly Heater is heraldic and looks boss. Is that worth the stat penalty? At least it's close enough now that folks could go one way or another, whereas before the Hand Pavise was 2X as good, so it wasn't even a choice.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: BlindGuy on March 19, 2013, 06:38:38 pm
heavy round shield looks like thick wood with metal rim. hand pavise looks like something a child made from the box the tv came in. how can it be better?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Joker86 on March 19, 2013, 06:43:37 pm

http://youtu.be/A62J4Ls3Mgs (http://youtu.be/A62J4Ls3Mgs)

Thanks, but is this the cRPG-Ballista, and how it is used? Part of the map or deployable or what?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 19, 2013, 06:47:26 pm
Thanks, but is this the cRPG-Ballista, and how it is used? Part of the map or deployable or what?

While on siege, perhaps a static ballista could be fixed. But on strat or battle having to construct one just like the catapult or siege tower would be a nice way to get new tactics into the game. Like having two separate (or one) ballista part + the ballista arrows (3 slots) to deploy one, at a hill or on a wall.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: LordRichrich on March 19, 2013, 07:04:07 pm
All I can an say is I am glad I didnt buy into that new game crap.If they are going to bait you with a weapon that you think you can keep your build alive with then nerf it to be pretty much the same as knightly arming sword but 2000 more in cost and not refund looms spent in it after said nerf well I guess I am the idiot but hey will be an idiot with my money(my real life money) still in my pocket.
They need to make some better 0 slot shields if they arent going to readjust for 1h/shield xbow use.

So you just went straight ahead and loomed it? You couldn't see that it obviously wasn't going to stay 0 slot?!
You could see all the other 0 slot swords were short swords. how couldn't you see it coming?

And no, no 0 slot shields. Cos then xbow shields will be able to take maces or sickles which means they get pierce at long range and at close range. The point of making SWORDS 0 slot, is that it's to limit the amount of damage they can do
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Phew on March 19, 2013, 07:12:09 pm
Ash, just trade your loomed Spathion for a Nordic Short War Sword or Broad Short Sword, both ungodly good 0-slot weapons. Rule of thumb for future new items; if it's obviously OP, don't loom it unless you are OK with the impending nerfs.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Kaoklai on March 19, 2013, 07:28:15 pm
I'm not cavalry, don't have any plans to be cavalry, and don't really care that much overall, but does the Eastern Horse's hp seem a little too low?  With such low armor (which I like) and such a high riding skill requirement (which I also like) it seems a bit much.  I mean, it's only 2 more speed and maneuver than the destrier.  I understand the principle of increasing opportunity costs for extreme specialization, but I think it should have more hp or more speed/maneuver .

Don't have a dog in this fight, just spitballing.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 19, 2013, 08:53:22 pm
Loving the patch notes...thanks almighty chadz!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MlotekPL on March 20, 2013, 12:16:16 am
You have forgotten to buff 2h.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Butan on March 20, 2013, 02:17:29 am
I find the eastern horse a bit too costy/difficult for what it is  :wink:


Compared to the Palfrey, you can see that :

Quote
Palfrey
hit points: 85 (+5)
body armor: 12 (+6)
difficulty: 3 (-5)
speed: 44 (+0)
maneuver: 41 (-3)
charge: 14 (+3)
prix : (-10 000)


Just dropping that small fact, I wasnt able to test anything else throughfully.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Asheram on March 20, 2013, 04:47:16 am
Ash, just trade your loomed Spathion for a Nordic Short War Sword or Broad Short Sword, both ungodly good 0-slot weapons. Rule of thumb for future new items; if it's obviously OP, don't loom it unless you are OK with the impending nerfs.
The swords you mentioned are worthless on horseback,that why I went with the spathion because it was the only viable option for the hybrid build I have after they made light xbow 2slots.So at this point I think I am going to just drop all melee and add to the dedicated 5point hx build instead of the gimped 3 hx and 15/18 1h/shield I have been for pretty much 20 gens and I am sure you can tell by my k/d ratio wasnt very op.Or just learn to be a cav lancer as 1h/shield cav isnt that good- I hybrided that way to be viable after getting dehorsed as well as using on a horse when I could or ran out of bolts,and when getting bored with ranged as I see alts as a waste of time but then again maybe now they're not if the game is just going to kill builds.

So you just went straight ahead and loomed it? You couldn't see that it obviously wasn't going to stay 0 slot?!
You could see all the other 0 slot swords were short swords. how couldn't you see it coming?

And no, no 0 slot shields. Cos then xbow shields will be able to take maces or sickles which means they get pierce at long range and at close range. The point of making SWORDS 0 slot, is that it's to limit the amount of damage they can do
So how could I see that it wasnt going to remain 0 slot when it is pretty much the same exact sword as the knightly arming sword but cost more by 2k- which raises the upkeep-by making it 1 slot now there are essentially 2 exact swords but 1 more costly.If anything they should just have removed it not this bs move.And I didnt just run out right away and loom it I waited abit.
As far as 0 slot shields that would be a better way to keep some hybrid builds alive(which mine is now dead) and viable as you have to spend skill points to even use shields where as you dont have to use melee weapons which just take the strength to use them and just get better with the other points you choose to use.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 20, 2013, 07:42:32 am
Asheram, the Spath being 0slot was clearly an obvious mistake.  Hell, it's even questionable if the BSS should be 0slot, since its length is like 7 longer than the next 0slot weapon.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tovi on March 20, 2013, 10:52:15 am
Just read the forum : everybody said it was a mistake. Even me.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Prpavi on March 20, 2013, 11:01:38 am
cav nerf = ranged buff

bring it bitches!  :twisted:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tovi on March 20, 2013, 11:05:39 am
Double nerf, in fact : Wooden stake + charge down
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: F i n on March 20, 2013, 11:26:52 am
Why did you add lags? Its impossible to kill ppl with heavy throwing.... oh wait. ITS IMPOSSIBLE ANYWAY.

If everyone was a thrower it would be balanced. And no one had to die.

Im tired of being easy prey for classes im used to be able to kill.

Im gonna go 2h. THATS WHAT YOU WANT???
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Penitent on March 20, 2013, 07:33:37 pm
I would like to say the following things:

Thank you devs for patches, and for doing groovy things, even if not everyone agrees with them, even myself.  You are still appreciated!

Thank you devs for patch notes.  They make the world go round and so do you, you shine on you crazy diamonds!

:)
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Phew on March 20, 2013, 07:38:43 pm
I would like to say the following things:

Thank you devs for patches, and for doing groovy things, even if not everyone agrees with them, even myself.  You are still appreciated!

Thank you devs for patch notes.  They make the world go round and so do you, you shine on you crazy diamonds!

:)

Agreed. Even if you don't like the changes, it's finally clear what direction the devs have for the future of the game. Conquest mode with spikes, ballista, etc will be a truly epic gameplay experience.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: cmp on March 20, 2013, 07:59:36 pm
Why did you add lags?

Because we feel lag improves the overall experience of the mod.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: karasu on March 20, 2013, 08:47:41 pm
It's all about the immersion.



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Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: F i n on March 20, 2013, 09:07:10 pm
Because we feel lag improves the overall experience of the mod.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: AreTreble on March 20, 2013, 09:58:25 pm
If longsword were nerfed, 75% of the 2h would immediately qqGTX; so you see, mod will die.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Shemaforash on March 20, 2013, 10:14:18 pm
If longsword were nerfed, 75% of the 2h would immediately qqGTX; so you see, mod will die.

There's not really that big amount of players who use the longsword as their main weapon, I see a lot of players using stuff like claymore, danish, german (a lot less lately though), sword of war among others..
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Dezilagel on March 20, 2013, 10:22:43 pm
I use a longsword.

Thanks, now we know.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Shemaforash on March 20, 2013, 10:44:23 pm
I'm a shielder cav ^^
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: San on March 21, 2013, 12:34:30 am
Very nice. Can't wait to play on my more balanced rouncey in a few days.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: LordLargos on March 21, 2013, 05:53:20 am
In Na most 2h is longsword and if they qqrage quit everything would be better.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Malaclypse on March 21, 2013, 07:00:02 am
There's not really that big amount of players who use the longsword as their main weapon, I see a lot of players using stuff like claymore, danish, german (a lot less lately though), sword of war among others..

Yeah, it's really more of an NA thing, and it pisses me off. So many dedicated 2-handers use the Bastard class weapons (Longsword and HBS in particular), and so, so few of them have even 2-3 points in shield to utilize that goddamn utility. I honestly do not get it.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: FrugFrug on March 21, 2013, 07:30:48 am
BS sword used as polearm with a practice shield for style points.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: chadz on March 21, 2013, 08:18:11 pm
Hotfix:

Ozin: Updated shariz: new ballistas
Added stag castle (jacko's) for new siege
Harald: Set inactivity period to claim leadership to 14 days and the appealing phase lasts now 7 days.
jacko: map updates
Urist: Wooden stakes changes:
- insta death only for jumping horses now, otherwise damage is speed(squared) and armor based
- removed stake stacking, a segment will only spawn if it is not too close to an already existing stake segment
Ozin: - Fixed: Flags not resetting correctly after attacker win in siege beta
- Possible fix: Ballistae not shooting correctly.
- Tweak: Flag should capture slower when many players are on it compared to last version.


_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Hand Pavise Shield                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 5                              | 6.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heavy Lance                                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 23 pierce                      | 24 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Wooden Stakes                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 25                             | 40                            |
| slots                                              | 1                              | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Hand Pavise Shield                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 5                              | 6.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Heavy Lance                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Heavy Lance                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Hand Pavise Shield                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 5                              | 6.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Heavy Lance                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 26 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterpiece Hand Pavise Shield                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| weight                                             | 5                              | 6.5                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Penitent on March 21, 2013, 08:26:18 pm
Cool hotfix its so hot!



Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 21, 2013, 08:33:53 pm
and the respawn time for defenders on beta siege?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 21, 2013, 08:45:54 pm
Wonder if the 1p buff to the heavy lance will push it out of heavy glance range.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Penguin on March 21, 2013, 08:47:22 pm
And just like that, stakes become another useless siege item in anything outside of strat battles.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Penitent on March 21, 2013, 08:48:12 pm
And just like that, stakes become another useless siege item in anything outside of strat battles.

Quit filling all your slots bro!  Get some tactical equipment!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on March 21, 2013, 08:50:47 pm
Hey ya :D
Heavy Lance is back  :twisted:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 21, 2013, 08:52:39 pm
And just like that, stakes become another useless siege item in anything outside of strat battles.
those stakes were horrible on siege, often even placed by noobs so the defenders actually couldnt defend their important zones
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Penitent on March 21, 2013, 09:14:08 pm
put your stakes on the market, I want to buy some at reduced cost.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: F i n on March 21, 2013, 09:29:42 pm
Dunno... But did you guys think about aditional ammo for Throwing weapons when loomed? All the other Ranged weapons do have this feature.

Like +1 and +2 --> 2 max ammo, +3 --> 3 max ammo ... This way you dont piss off the "old and dedicated".

And by rewarding a loomed axe you might as well decrease the ammount of Throwerspam ... tho i think no one is playing that class (effectively) anymore.

Edit: Talking about the HTA ofc.

Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Phew on March 21, 2013, 09:36:40 pm
Dunno... But did you guys think about aditional ammo for Throwing weapons when loomed?

I know the HTA ammo change was done to encourage throwing weapon diversity, but it will have the opposite effect; everyone will just use Jarids. Jarid and HTA were pretty well-balanced with each other before, each having a niche (HTA-short range, high ROF, medium damage, Jarid-medium range, low ROF, high damage).

I say revert the HTA changes (the damage buff too) to pre-patch values, but make regular Throwing Axes 4 per stack and Francisca 5 per stack. Then every mid-tier throwing weapon has about the same total damage per stack.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 21, 2013, 09:50:50 pm
Dunno... But did you guys think about aditional ammo for Throwing weapons when loomed? All the other Ranged weapons do have this feature.

Like +1 and +2 --> 2 max ammo, +3 --> 3 max ammo ... This way you dont piss off the "old and dedicated".

And by rewarding a loomed axe you might as well decrease the ammount of Throwerspam ... tho i think no one is playing that class (effectively) anymore.

Edit: Talking about the HTA ofc.

It used to be like that, and it was dumb. Picture people with 12 thowing lances.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tovi on March 21, 2013, 10:03:39 pm
Imagine Oprah Winfrey with a huge throwing lance. Hmm  :shock:
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Jarold on March 21, 2013, 10:27:39 pm
They could choose which throwing weapons get more ammo when loomed.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: F i n on March 21, 2013, 10:54:46 pm
It used to be like that, and it was dumb. Picture people with 12 thowing lances.

Read more carefully bro! I was talking about Heavy throwing axes - as they are the only weapons that got actually nerfed - for franciskas and throwing axes it was more of a buff...
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 22, 2013, 06:53:53 pm
My Destrier is getting stuck after running over 1 person who is tightly packed next to another.  I don't think a 1200 lb horse should get stuck that easily by running over two 160 lb men regardless of whether or not the horse has armor.  Here are my references for horse weight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse#Size_and_measurement
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: FrugFrug on March 22, 2013, 08:11:02 pm
160 pounds? These guys are pretty buff, I would say at least 200-210.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Penitent on March 22, 2013, 08:15:18 pm
Destriers can weight up to 1700 lbs by some estimates.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: kinngrimm on March 22, 2013, 11:59:31 pm
Wooden Stackles spam on siege server, please either get rid of them in siege or increase the slots they use to 2+
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Tindel on March 23, 2013, 01:04:24 am
Yes i second kinngrim, earlier this evening it was nigh unplayable due to immense stake spam on EU2.

Spending more time hacking stakes than fighting isnt fun, this is like the old ladder/Construction site spam all over again.

Just ban them from siege alltogether, no cav there anyway.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Nehvar on March 23, 2013, 01:24:35 am
Agreed.  Cavalry isn't an issue in siege.  Deploying anti-cav stakes on a rampart/stairway/keep hall etc etc is silly.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Miwiw on March 23, 2013, 01:26:47 am
It's 2 slot now though. You will still see it quite often, people probably also use it to troll? ;)
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Jarold on March 23, 2013, 02:02:56 am
Increase the cost on stakes!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 23, 2013, 02:36:27 am
Wooden Stackles spam on siege server, please either get rid of them in siege or increase the slots they use to 2+

Village battles are still sieges, so that won't work.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Spleen on March 23, 2013, 11:17:33 am
put your stakes on the market, I want to buy some at reduced cost.

well...the stakes are high...

ba dum ts
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Knitler on March 23, 2013, 01:39:30 pm
Bring Ladders back and it probably will be balanced. And it would be more fun!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Butan on March 23, 2013, 02:31:12 pm
Bring Ladders back and it probably will be balanced. And it would be more fun!

HRE suggesting ladders back, instant -1  :P


Still need too much "defenders awareness" of back walls to be able to give ladders back, and im not even sure the latest siege maps could be compatible with the idea of being able to ladder up.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Knitler on March 23, 2013, 02:53:46 pm
HRE suggesting ladders back, instant -1  :P


Still need too much "defenders awareness" of back walls to be able to give ladders back, and im not even sure the latest siege maps could be compatible with the idea of being able to ladder up.

The maps dont have to be ready, if you cant use ladders there, you cant. BUt still the defenders on conquest are spawning directly in your back like 1meter .... ^^
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Butan on March 23, 2013, 03:06:25 pm
The maps dont have to be ready, if you cant use ladders there, you cant. BUt still the defenders on conquest are spawning directly in your back like 1meter .... ^^

Map making needs to be done in accordance with ladders enabled or not, else it can be very unbalanced for attackers or defenders.

Also didnt play much conquest but I think looking at all the flags, its already much safer to have ladders on in conquest mode, since its much harder to use ninja flag squadron effectively, winning the day in one surprise attack.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: vipere on March 23, 2013, 03:41:35 pm
Can you look about the nerf you made about mauls ?

there is a topic on the balance discussion : http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-balance-discussion/the-maul-change-is-retarded/

You can see that almost all maulers are thinking the same : the 1 sec you have to hold for crushthrough kill the gameplay of maulers (  maul and mallet were quite fine before this nerf, Long Maul is just a piece of shit now... ) .

Thanks.


Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Knitler on March 23, 2013, 03:42:34 pm
Map making needs to be done in accordance with ladders enabled or not, else it can be very unbalanced for attackers or defenders.

Also didnt play much conquest but I think looking at all the flags, its already much safer to have ladders on in conquest mode, since its much harder to use ninja flag squadron effectively, winning the day in one surprise attack.

I think the defenders should spawn maybe 5seconds later. But its obvious for me that the main problem is that the defenders spawn like one meter away from your position or behind you .... so its even worse than TDM

(click to show/hide)

And with the HRE-Blitzkrieg-Team wie managed to get the tavern before the walls, so we skipped the lower wall (bug/feature?)
Was no chance to get the keep. There is also still a bug for the next rounds when you capture them, you cant get them in the next round.

Ballista is still kinda bugged, you have to get it in the old/standard position to pull the crank/reload

We made a ninja stuff .... didnt worked on the end at the keep.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Fips on March 23, 2013, 04:33:11 pm
HRE suggesting ladders back, instant -1  :P


Still need too much "defenders awareness" of back walls to be able to give ladders back, and im not even sure the latest siege maps could be compatible with the idea of being able to ladder up.

It's not like we do any worse/better on siege since there are no ladders. It just took some of the fun away.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Azlanek on March 23, 2013, 04:56:15 pm
What's up with the equipment values?
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: bentrion on March 23, 2013, 06:59:11 pm
Plz buff Ninja Stars from Cut to Pierce
Title: One-handed knockdowners vs. Polearm knockdowners
Post by: LA_DiamonD on March 23, 2013, 07:30:39 pm
Hey everyone. As the first thing, that i want to say - is to bring sorries for my "brocken english". I want to ask how can all of you imagine this:
 
One-handed Warhammer (or almost ANY other blunt one-handed weapon) have damage 31 blunt (weight 2.5), in the same time, as Polearm (look: two-handed, for example Long hafted knobbed mace) have damage 29 blunt and weight 2.8.

Dear developers, take into one hand 2.5 kg hammer and knock use it on the wall. Then take 2.8 kg club into two hands and make a same. Are you still sure, that your one-handed hammer made more destrucive (and with the greater speed (97) vs. two-handed polearm with less weight (in calculating for a each hand (1,4 kg), and total weight 2.8, speed 93)? And the damage of polearm less as well as speed, than one-handed hammer. So your one-handed attack is faster, than two-handed-optimized weapon? Or, may be damage of your one-handed attack is greater? What the hell is going on ?

May be your one-handed character have right hand more, that twice stronger, than left hand? In this way, may be have to make additional skills for left hand and right hand, that improve current hand strenght, to explain current balance?

Items was taken as examples. All one-handed blunt weapons vs. two-handed blunt, as good as polearms clear ultimate-weapons, IMHO
Title: Re: One-handed knockdowners vs. Polearm knockdowners
Post by: Konrax on March 23, 2013, 08:33:12 pm
Hey everyone. As the first thing, that i want to say - is to bring sorries for my "brocken english". I want to ask how can all of you imagine this:
 
One-handed Warhammer (or almost ANY other blunt one-handed weapon) have damage 31 blunt (weight 2.5), in the same time, as Polearm (look: two-handed, for example Long hafted knobbed mace) have damage 29 blunt and weight 2.8.

Dear developers, take into one hand 2.5 kg hammer and knock use it on the wall. Then take 2.8 kg club into two hands and make a same. Are you still sure, that your one-handed hammer made more destrucive (and with the greater speed (97) vs. two-handed polearm with less weight (in calculating for a each hand (1,4 kg), and total weight 2.8, speed 93)? And the damage of polearm less as well as speed, than one-handed hammer. So your one-handed attack is faster, than two-handed-optimized weapon? Or, may be damage of your one-handed attack is greater? What the hell is going on ?

May be your one-handed character have right hand more, that twice stronger, than left hand? In this way, may be have to make additional skills for left hand and right hand, that improve current hand strenght, to explain current balance?

Items was taken as examples. All one-handed blunt weapons vs. two-handed blunt, as good as polearms clear ultimate-weapons, IMHO

You forgot the part about how polearms are twice as long at least compared to 1h blunt weapons.
Title: Re: One-handed knockdowners vs. Polearm knockdowners
Post by: zagibu on March 23, 2013, 11:19:54 pm
One-handed Warhammer (or almost ANY other blunt one-handed weapon) have damage 31 blunt (weight 2.5), in the same time, as Polearm (look: two-handed, for example Long hafted knobbed mace) have damage 29 blunt and weight 2.8.

Dear developers, take into one hand 2.5 kg hammer and knock use it on the wall. Then take 2.8 kg club into two hands and make a same. Are you still sure, that your one-handed hammer made more destrucive (and with the greater speed (97) vs. two-handed polearm with less weight (in calculating for a each hand (1,4 kg), and total weight 2.8, speed 93)? And the damage of polearm less as well as speed, than one-handed hammer. So your one-handed attack is faster, than two-handed-optimized weapon? Or, may be damage of your one-handed attack is greater? What the hell is going on ?

Take this to Realism section please.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Malaclypse on March 23, 2013, 11:43:45 pm
So if I understand correctly, Catapaults don't work/are floating walls, Large Siege Towers don't have wheels, and Small Siege Towers have a broken ramp and also may be lacking wheels. I hope these are fixed "soon", otherwise the only way to take a castle or town is a parade of ladders.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 24, 2013, 01:28:33 pm
Yanmaodao is under utilized and should be considered for 0 slot status.  Does not exceed BSS in any way.  Would probably need to increase price a little.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Ronin on March 25, 2013, 05:49:30 pm
So if I understand correctly, Catapaults don't work/are floating walls, Large Siege Towers don't have wheels, and Small Siege Towers have a broken ramp and also may be lacking wheels. I hope these are fixed "soon", otherwise the only way to take a castle or town is a parade of ladders.
Not only that. They are also a wall magnet. Construct something and just run away from there as fast as possible, or you will be ketchup.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on March 27, 2013, 02:57:25 pm
Aha! I step away from the game for a week, and you nerf cav! Excellent!

Not sure what's up with dat there eastern horse. Gonna check it out later. I might have to whip out the 15/24 lancercavgod build again.

Edit: I just checked it's stats. Are you fucking nuts, modz? The Courser's faster, the Arab's more maneuverable, and the Destrier's tougher than it by a long shot. It's a shitty combination of speed and maneuverability, and it's got no survivability what so ever. No one will use it. Another nerf for cav!
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Prpavi on April 01, 2013, 10:11:01 am
Added a dedicated button for dismounting, removed look down to dismount feature. nice

Mini patch cav can appreciate.
Title: Re: 0.2.9.3.2
Post by: Radament on April 02, 2013, 07:28:23 pm
maybe i'm the only one but the last improvement for textures on demand it makes me some freezes (other than the initial spawn freeze i mean) , now i try to turn load on demand off if it's different.