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Offline Tristan

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A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« on: July 05, 2011, 02:07:58 am »
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Just to add some fun along the lines of Katana need 200 weapon speed and all weapons need crushthrough:

Make armors more realistic. How?

a) Make plate type armors more expensive, but almost remove their weight penalty.
b) Make maille type armors less expensive, but keep weight penalty.

When I say more expensive I mean bad ass expensive. Like... really expensive.

Why?

Because weight distribution on plate armor is way way better than maille type armor.
More expensive because of balance.

And finally it could create a twist... do you want speed y/n. Y get broke using plate or wear light. n get protection and use maille.

Concerns for strategus? PLate shouldn't be no easier to produce. Only for the 1337....
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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 02:18:32 am »
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dumb idea.

yes, some armor was more restrictive than others and would interfere with weapons. but weight is also weight, no shortcuts.  since this game doesnt have constitution attribute or endurance/stamina system, any heavy armor is going to receive a penalty.

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 12:24:28 pm »
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Make plate type armors more expensive

possible, just make price of this armor - 2M.
therefore repair bill - 100k

and make this armor «Shining», because I want to know who this dumb hero is.

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 02:23:16 pm »
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What the fuck.
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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 02:34:59 pm »
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this could have been a good idea, but the problem is that gold is not a good restrictive value.
Someone who sold an heirloom could wear plate for ages.

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 03:40:01 pm »
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If the repair costs for plate were as high as suggested then it would finally be the death of plate armour, sure using 7 athl. an plate would be fun, but even  if i was on an x5 and it broke i'd be outta money.
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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 05:55:17 pm »
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Look here Casimir, I think it can be really interesting for you, and for all who interested in medieval prices.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/medievalprices.html

and look for «Armor for Prince of Wales, "gilt and graven"»

« Last Edit: July 05, 2011, 07:10:10 pm by Okkam »

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 11:31:01 pm »
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Currently even if plate armors were just a little more expensive than medium ones I wouldn't use them because they slow you down too much. Buffing them somehow seems reasonable to me.

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 02:19:46 am »
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dumb idea.

yes, some armor was more restrictive than others and would interfere with weapons. but weight is also weight, no shortcuts.  since this game doesnt have constitution attribute or endurance/stamina system, any heavy armor is going to receive a penalty.

I had always heard that platemail was lighter than chainmail. I guess the theory is less metal is needed due to the way the curved armor would distribute impact. Either way, I'm rather confident it would have cost a lot more than chainmail since it required a significant amount more crafting skills

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2011, 10:08:44 am »
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Maille "feels" heavier that plate because its weight completely lasts on the shoulders of the wearer. This can be partly counter-acted with a strong belt that redistributes some weight on the hips as well.
However plate, while being heavier in general, can be worn more comfortably because it distributes its weight evenly on the body.

For gameplay reasons we keep the linear weight depended wpf and speed penalty though, for now.

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 02:23:33 pm »
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I would do it like this: all heavily armored people (with a lot of weight on them) would have a chance to tumble on slopes and ram into walls or doors to break them down. On the other hand lightly armored people would have a chance to go airborne on slopes, particularly useful for archers to rain down arrows from above.

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 02:30:13 pm »
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I always thought there wasn't enough flying in my cRPG.

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 02:32:26 pm »
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Look here Casimir, I think it can be really interesting for you, and for all who interested in medieval prices.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/medievalprices.html

and look for «Armor for Prince of Wales, "gilt and graven"»
but how much shilling would a "normal warrior" have?
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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2011, 12:18:44 am »
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Regular Army
Esquires, constables,
and centenars                                       1s/day     
Mounted archers, armored
infantry, hobilars, vintenars                   6d/day     
Welsh vintenars                                     4d/day       
Archers                                                   3d/day       
Welsh infantry                                        2d/day 

How much days you need to gather 300L?

Also you need money to spend for food, ale and whores, or you want to die innocent?
« Last Edit: July 07, 2011, 12:28:33 am by Cup1d »

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Re: A crazy idea about armor perhaps worth considering?
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2011, 08:48:48 am »
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Regular Army
Esquires, constables,
and centenars                                       1s/day     
Mounted archers, armored
infantry, hobilars, vintenars                   6d/day     
Welsh vintenars                                     4d/day       
Archers                                                   3d/day       
Welsh infantry                                        2d/day 

How much days you need to gather 300L?

Also you need money to spend for food, ale and whores, or you want to die innocent?
not a lot of money need to spend on whores, you casn just rape the women you find in the villages/cities you attack
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