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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #165 on: July 03, 2011, 10:30:01 pm »
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Bird clan was just a joke on BRD btw they all are in same TS

why not just own the hacking, it will win you points over on SA forums anyhow
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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #166 on: July 03, 2011, 10:35:31 pm »
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Also 2 EU Risen members got their characters deleted.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #167 on: July 03, 2011, 10:41:59 pm »
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Honestly I have never before seen Tears be emotional and make an irrational post like this.

Eh, now I feel bad...

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #168 on: July 03, 2011, 10:43:49 pm »
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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #169 on: July 03, 2011, 10:45:59 pm »
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Best pic I have seen all day, love the expression  :lol:
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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #170 on: July 03, 2011, 11:04:19 pm »
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these hackers are noob

no one hacked my account when my password was "siiem" for 5 months

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #171 on: July 03, 2011, 11:04:55 pm »
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To be fair, I, and most people I play with are guilty of thinking ATS is full of retards just because of how retarded Ecko sometimes behaves.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #172 on: July 03, 2011, 11:13:55 pm »
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I still maintain my decision to make hellowrold ambassador of BIRD CLAN was the correct one and we stand behind him fully.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #173 on: July 04, 2011, 12:15:16 am »
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we BIRD's gotta stick together

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #174 on: July 04, 2011, 01:11:30 am »
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Now Ecko wants to take away our freedom to look at everyone's alts.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #175 on: July 04, 2011, 02:01:03 am »
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It's always funny to read dozens of pages of NA players discussions. I know most of the nicks from this forum but I don't know about most of the relations and structure so it looks like a big mess. This is actually more interesting than most of the EU drama as I want to learn about the NA community a bit.

I guess it's funny for NA players to read EU drama threads too.


On the topic, I think Ecko should at least make some public apologies. That never hurts anyway.

I do think the main people responsible for this are ofc. the hackers but then the devs for having a very poor security policy. The auto-detection of new alts when people connect with different nicks is a security fail in itself. No need to have a site with alt names to exploit it. Sure it made things easier for hackers but the char creation shouldn't work like that in the first place. When everything will be fixed and the char creation system changed, everyone will likely forget about this. Afaik no one quit the game because of this yet (wiegraf said he's leaving but not because of this). Admins are working hard to give back what was lost, just be patient  :?.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #176 on: July 04, 2011, 02:10:50 am »
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theres no apology needed at all lol The only ones that are to blame are the prepubescent assholes that had so much time in their hands that they needed to screw honest players.

I would also say that if at the very beginning we had all our current and future toons under the same password (like in every other damn game) things like that would not happen. So please ffs stop shitting on the head of the people that tries to bring something to this community and start putting  your dirty fat fingers on the real problems in this game... Mainly all the trolls and the way alts where bound to the main characters with or without a separate password O_o, not the one who brought the security flaw in the light w/o even knowing it..
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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #177 on: July 04, 2011, 02:52:18 am »
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Holy shit people had their accounts deleted? Fuck that sucks. I was one of the goons who got hacked a few weeks back and now I guess I'm lucky because they 'only' stole my looms instead of also deleting my guy.

I think the idea of people getting hacked because they had an unpassworded alt is probably the case. I know I had like 6 alts and I can only remember the password for 5 of them so I bet I had one without. I know goretooth said he didn't have any alts but I know I've seen him with an archer alt, but that was a long time ago.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #178 on: July 04, 2011, 03:13:40 am »
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Holy shit people had their accounts deleted? Fuck that sucks. I was one of the goons who got hacked a few weeks back and now I guess I'm lucky because they 'only' stole my looms instead of also deleting my guy.

I think the idea of people getting hacked because they had an unpassworded alt is probably the case. I know I had like 6 alts and I can only remember the password for 5 of them so I bet I had one without. I know goretooth said he didn't have any alts but I know I've seen him with an archer alt, but that was a long time ago.

No that was in fact Goretooth. He used to go melee one gen archer another to grind money
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Re: IMPORTANT: Recent hackings
« Reply #179 on: July 04, 2011, 03:22:14 am »
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As a programmer who's had to deal with security risks, I feel pushed to give my own input. While this is hacking that require minimum effort, it's still hacking. Hacking is all about exploiting security faults. In this case, the security faults were so huge that the hacking was made easy.

As far as Ecko making alts visible to other players, that's just a reasonable feature. The problem comes from the true security fault in the way account passwords are managed. When I first had to log into crpg, I asked my friend who introduced me how to figure out my password. When he told me it would be whatever password I entered when I first logged in, I actually laughed cause I thought he was joking. In my mind, there was no way passwords would be set by whoever enters login information first. To this day, I am still baffled by the truth. And then during this hacking incident, I figured out that rather than alts sharing the same password, they're all set in the same way. Not only that, but they're connected to all your other characters and your passwords for all characters can be set from any character. Any security analyst would have had a fit if they had a say in that setup. Ecko's alt visibility feature may have made this huge security flaw more abusable, but any reasonable analyst could hardly blame him for this incident.

However, there's one thing that I read earlier that I can't ignore
I still maintain my decision to make hellowrold ambassador of BIRD CLAN was the correct one and we stand behind him fully.
Are you serious? My mind is telling me there's no way anybody could be so stupid that they fully support a known and confessed hacker who ruined the game for multiple individuals so this has to be a joke. But then again, my mind also told me there's no way anybody could leave a security hole in a login system so large that any random person could set your password as long as they known your name. While I couldn't agree with a server admin banning a whole clan for the actions of one individual, I wouldn't criticize them negatively for banning anybody would could seriously follow such a line of thought. But if you're being sarcastic, I just don't know you well enough to tell.
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