Solid Builds

[Cyclopsided]

WPF will add roughly one weapon speed for every additional 20 to 25 wpf.

a 200 wpf 1h with 95 speed will have nearly the same speed as a 100 wpf weapon with 100 speed.
Also, the 200 wpf weapon will amount to almost 2 PS more damage than the latter. Although, it isn't like you can get 200 wpf, i'm just making a point.

A real in-game example: a 150 wpf weapon with 95 speed compared to the same weapon with only 130 wpf
150 wpf will be roughly one weapon speed faster, and do about 2% more damage than the latter.
Just to put things in perspective.

I personally find that 1 less weapon speed from a 1h (something already fast) to potentially increase my pole-arm use by up to 4 weapon speed, when poles are a fairly lower speed weapon in general, to be a good trade.
It comes down to how often you use poles, and if that is a trade worth it to you! if you play by far mostly with 1h, then you are making the right decision.

[Ronin]

Thanks for another detailed answer. I actually don't use lance at all, besides the great lance. I just picked pole wpf to do well in strategus battles, when theres no choice but to use a lance on horseback or a pike to stop enemy cavalry. Something I was doing with 1 wpf sometimes. Decided to enhance it a bit better, and 1 speed in my weapon is pretty much worth it

[Meat_Skewer]

Hey I'm a Horse Archer, and do I need an "effective armor rate" to shoot better or something?

[oohillac]

Hey I'm a Horse Archer, and do I need an "effective armor rate" to shoot better or something?

Keep things lightweight, skip helmets (headhit is death anyway).  As a HA (assuming you're a pure 15/24 build), you have tons of WPF, and can wear heavier stuff.

[Canderous]

What do u think about this build for an HX
Its possible to play with an Arbalest on Siege server and can fight on rageball servers. But i dont know if its better to put some points in onehanded.

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 50
Skills to attributes: 6
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 4
Riding: 8
Horse Archery: 4
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 149
Throwing: 1

[Belatu]

What about archery?


Are we still being the homo/retard/my old friendchers/chocolate chip cookie/devhated/anticrpglore/nurfed/bullied/dont_try_to_understand_your_char_because_when_you_figure_it_out_unpredictable_changes_will_fuck_your_build/aka_ranged_is_op   guys?

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[Dravic]

What about archery?


Are we still being the homo/retard/my old friendchers/chocolate chip cookie/devhated/anticrpglore/nurfed/bullied/dont_try_to_understand_your_char_because_when_you_figure_it_out_unpredictable_changes_will_fuck_your_build/aka_ranged_is_op   guys?

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You want the truth?

Basically:

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Yes. But I don't mind archers myself to be honest.

[Cyclopsided]

What do u think about this build for an HX
Its possible to play with an Arbalest on Siege server and can fight on rageball servers. But i dont know if its better to put some points in onehanded.

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 50
Skills to attributes: 6
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 4
Riding: 8
Horse Archery: 4
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 149
Throwing: 1

you're going to need more levels than that if you want to be both arbalest on foot AND HX at 15/24. Or, you're going to have to settle with 3 HA and this build of 15/21

The thing is, more WPF and other bonuses will counter-act the lack of 4 HA and 3 instead.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 50

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 7
    Horse Archery: 3
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 165
    Throwing: 1
This is better than what you have posted AND level 30 not level 31. ALSO this will be able to melee on foot, and run from fights on foot! You can put 50 WPF in onehand or 2h or whatever if you want.
If you want to level higher, At levels 33 you can get 4 HA and 8 riding and wm. ALternatively, at 31 and 32 youc an just max your IF and be more survivable, or whatever.

[Canderous]

@ Marathon

thx alot

[donib]

Hello,

with the new 0 slot swords i am looking for a decent archer with good (defensive) melee capabilities and if need be drop all the ranged stuff and fight melee decently.

Ive only played some stf samurai archer with yumi and katana, but i dont have any other archery experience.

And maybe a skirmisher/thrower build with 1h

[Snowman191]

So the shotgun and run build under xbow no longer works as light xbows take 2 slots alone, or am I missing something?

Edit: I ran it with 1 xbow on a quick 30, still amazingly fun, but not as useful as first intended.

[no_rules_just_play]

So the shotgun and run build under xbow no longer works as light xbows take 2 slots alone, or am I missing something?

Edit: I ran it with 1 xbow on a quick 30, still amazingly fun, but not as useful as first intended.

agreed, i put so much time in getting my alt getting to lvl 30 and now it went from fun and useless to not fun and even more useless.

[Cyclopsided]

So the shotgun and run build under xbow no longer works as light xbows take 2 slots alone, or am I missing something?

Edit: I ran it with 1 xbow on a quick 30, still amazingly fun, but not as useful as first intended.

oh shit yeah, Sorry I haven't updated this in a while.
I'm going to remove it from the list actually.

[Old_school_hunter]

Would this be a good 2h/thrower build?

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Attribute points

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 15

Hit points: 70

Skills to attributes: 2

Ironflesh: 7
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 5
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 5
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 126
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 100

[Cyclopsided]

Would this be a good 2h/thrower build?

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Attribute points

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 15

Hit points: 70

Skills to attributes: 2

Ironflesh: 7
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 5
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 5
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 126
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 100

do 5 IF, 7 PT instead of 7 IF, 5PT. power throw adds 10% additional throwing damage per level, it adds up fast. Also do 110 2h wpf, the rest throwing (like 118ish throwing wpf?) if you do what I am suggesting.