Solid Builds

[Kirbyy]

18/24 archery is there, But I don't have 18/24 dedicated 2h/pole on the list. Great builds but very glass-cannon-y.
I would put them on the main list, but they are mentioned throughout the thread. They were not originally listed because it wasn't until this year that lower WM agility builds were popular and shown to be as good as they are. I liked them but did not list them for the main list.

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[no_rules_just_play]

what is the best build if you use a pike? 18/21 or 15/24? i also use a long awlpike and a long spear. my playstyle is either supportive and with the long awlpike pretty agressive.

[Cyclopsided]

what is the best build if you use a pike? 18/21 or 15/24? i also use a long awlpike and a long spear. my playstyle is either supportive and with the long awlpike pretty agressive.

Support? 15/24. Considering you're EU, 15/24 sounds spot on. Pike/long spear slow you down an awful lot due to weapon length, punishing your speed, the extra athletics will help you protect teammates and save your life.

[no_rules_just_play]

Support? 15/24. Considering you're EU, 15/24 sounds spot on. Pike/long spear slow you down an awful lot due to weapon length, punishing your speed, the extra athletics will help you protect teammates and save your life.

good to hear, i loved the 15/24 build on my long spear and long awlpike but i wanted to buy a real pike too now

[MLCA]

Just tried 24/18 cav with 8 ps 6 riding and 3 shield with lance, it's awesome! what do you think? 21/18 with 6 wm would be better?

Can someone post this build?

[Cyclopsided]

Can someone post this build?

It is exactly as how he described it, bare-bones, those three skills.
level 30 -- 24 strength, 18 agility, 8 Power strike, 6 riding, 3 shield -- nothing else.   It's what I would call a "min maxer" build. Maximizing some stats, at the cost of minimizing everything else. I won't say it is bad, because it is good if you're always always on a horse... But I'd suggest 21/18.

And I do think 21/18 is a better build for lancer cavalry. As you go to levels higher than 30, it fleshes out skills completely and awesomely all the way up to level 35 lol.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 56

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 4
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 0

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 114
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
This is the no WM, no IF, 4 shield version of this build. Most people I know who play with this type of lancer cav, Don't go with shield skill, and fore-go a shield altogether. They go 4 Ironflesh instead. Going 4 IF and no shield allows you to ride around with your lance, and if you get dehorsed -- Ta-Da! You pull a war spear or pole-axe off your back and now you're infantry pole arms, no problem! It's a really, really good build in that sense.

Seriously, I wasn't joking about how 21/18 just finishes out strong at level 35. Every level past 30 giving you 3 more skill points. it ends up like this, if you want to go this route, I'd say this is rather objectively one of the best high end builds. Super, super effective.

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Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 70

    Attributes to skills: 1

    Ironflesh: 7
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 6
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 125
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 124
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Look at that. No excess points, perfectly fills everything. It is a God tier : Lancer cavalry, Lancer/1h cav, on foot Hoplite, on foot 1h/shielder etc. etc. etc.
if I were to go level 35 to be effective at murdering people, I'd go this route. Luckily for everyone else, I don't.

[jtobiasm]

nevermind, changed my mind ;)

[MLCA]

My crazy build:

LVL 30
33 STR
6  AGI

10 IF
11 PS
2  ATH

It's slow but hits like a tank. Gets a lot of 1 hits and its funny when fighting ppl in good armor to watch them back out after u leave them on life support with 1 hit. 10 IF plus medium/heavy armor you can get lanced twice and not die, get sliced by cav on the face and only lose half of your up and on reg melee fights usually get hit 4 to 5 times before dieying .

Just don't chase with this build because if you get surrounded there's no way out.

[Cyclopsided]

Aye, it is a fun build. I actually uggest using light armor with that build. Then you stay maneuverable and scare the shit out of them when you hit.

[Aimix]

Can someone write one or more builds for 1 handed/shield based on more agility? I'm playing with the standar 21/15 but it goes something slow, especially whit my high ping. I want try a build whit more agi. Thank you in avance 

btw im using a knightly arming sword, im thinking about other more fast, but no idea what can be better whit no very low dmg. Other thing is rigth now im level 30, i will level up whit my 21/15 to be 21/18 or i will reset the char....mmm.

Thanks ^^ 

[Sandersson Jankins]

Well, here's a handy tool Aimix: http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm
But here's what I would do with what info you have given me:

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 54
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 6
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 2
One Handed: 125
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

If you want to get more wpf in 1-handed, you could sacrifice the IF...but having 0 IF is rough. The IF is so low in this build because of your shield skill, which you can improve at level 31, or you can get more IF/WM. There's a lot of room to grow in this build, but at level 30 its still pretty good.

In terms of weapons, I would really recommend looking at the fine maces there are. Flanged mace is my favorite, winged mace is also solid along with the iberian. Swords though, the knightly arming is good, the Italian is a bit shorter and faster with comparable damage, and if you don't mind not having a stab both the scimitar and elite scimitar are extremely powerful and fast, I would choose the scimitar over the elite, personally.

[Aimix]

Thank you very much Sandersson, I'll think about all this, but just 2 IF and 2 WP I find a bit little?. In the other hand i can go to more level and try 21/18, so i can get 6 shield and 6 athletics, but lev 31 is a long way  . When i level to 31 maybe i should retire and try your build.

About weapons i need some range (length) coz y I feel more comfortable for my ping (95 ping most times).
I will try the scimitar, Thanks for your suggestions ! 

[Sandersson Jankins]

No problem, bro! I always recommend lowered amounts of ironflesh for agility shielders, since you can easily block oncoming hits, ranged, etc with your high shield skill. Remember, it gives you a forcefield type effect that goes beyond the shield's model when you have high shield skill. No need for IF when you can be very quick and have a very tough shield to block for you! Especially if you're using a longer weapon, which you can keep certain players at bay with. I would recommend more IF and less shield if you were using a quicker, shorter weapon like a mace or shortsword. You're gonna get hit no matter what if your playstyle is to facehug and attack aggressively.

[Cyclopsided]

I do not suggest 2 if / 2wm. 2 wm has literally no benefit. 12 or so additional WPF does nothing. WM is something to be stacked or take none.
Go 4 if / 0 WM or go 2 IF / 8 shield if you are going 15/24 shielder.

[Aimix]

Thank you friends,
Well i should live whit my ping, i get ocassionals hits,  for that i think i need some IF, but... 0 wp  would not make my hit speed very slow?.

Ahh italian sword is very fast, nice sword !
Cheers.