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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #315 on: March 29, 2012, 06:22:09 pm »
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I have a 18/21 2h sword build. Whats the maximum weight of armor i should have?

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #316 on: March 29, 2012, 06:41:59 pm »
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I wouldn't go over Coat of Plates with that build, anything under 20 I'd say is OK.

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #317 on: March 29, 2012, 07:37:52 pm »
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Or my build:
    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 63

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 6
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 150
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 60
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

My build at level 30, save for some minor differences (5 IF and 5 shield). My build is finished at level 32 and can be further improved at level 33.
lvl 32
18/21
5 IF
6 PS
5 shield
7 Athletics
6 WM

At level 33 I would max out IF and shield skill.

Even now, with just 6 PS and a Mighty broad one handed battle axe I have no problem killing most of the playerbase in a few hits. When the round is nearing it's end and everyone is a bit battered and bruised, 1-2 hits is often enough. I find myself more often in need of a tiny bit more speed (missing someone by an inch due to my short range weapon) than more damage.
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #318 on: March 29, 2012, 07:43:32 pm »
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Why did you put points in pole if you do not have riding?

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #319 on: March 29, 2012, 07:44:48 pm »
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Why did you put points in pole if you do not have riding?

Hoplite alternative mode? Why not?

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #320 on: March 29, 2012, 07:58:05 pm »
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Hoplite alternative mode? Why not?

Not sure what is longer. Long espada + crazy onehand thrust bonus or spear with shield?

IMHO 60 points in xbows will complement this build more.

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #321 on: March 29, 2012, 07:59:07 pm »
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Not sure what is longer. Long espada + crazy onehand thrust bonus or spear with shield?

IMHO 60 points in xbows will complement this build more.

But that's shotgunning and xbows are usually very expensive - hurt your gold stack more with so little wpf.

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #322 on: March 29, 2012, 08:04:41 pm »
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light xbow + steel  bolts cost less than ashwood pike. And with loomed xbow and bolts you literally receive 12 throwing lances (60 pierce damage).

Just suggesting.

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #323 on: March 29, 2012, 08:24:01 pm »
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light xbow + steel  bolts cost less than ashwood pike. And with loomed xbow and bolts you literally receive 12 throwing lances (60 pierce damage).

Just suggesting.

Throwing lances hurt a bit more than 60 pierce. Don't forget to add the PT requirement and the damage bonus which comes with that. 7 PT with 10%(?) damage bonus per rank adds up to quite a bit more.

Regardless though, I don't think you need any wpf in polearms when you play a hoplite occasionally. Your damage will suck anyway, so having 1 wpf doesn't matter much. You're playing support, so speed isn't that important either, timing is much more important.
Just swap to your 1h main weapon in time to prevent being stuck with your spear in a 1v1 situation.

I'd take the crossbow as an alternative too, but I doubt I'd have the looms to spare to get both bolts and xbow +3.
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #324 on: March 29, 2012, 10:25:20 pm »
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I put 60 wpf in polearms, because I often pick them up on the battlefield. I could also put 5 or 6 more points in 1-handed, but that doesn't make a difference. 60 is still better than 1 wpf and you will feel a difference when you pick up lances or pikes.

I'd rather take 6 shield skill or even 7 when I'm planning to go 21 agi, spawny. As a dedicated shielder I always max out shield skill and 7 shield makes your shield quite durable.
 
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #325 on: March 29, 2012, 10:36:01 pm »
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I'd rather take 6 shield skill or even 7 when I'm planning to go 21 agi, spawny. As a dedicated shielder I always max out shield skill and 7 shield makes your shield quite durable.

I don't mind a bit less durable shield. My shield hardly breaks as it is now (5 shield and a knightly heater shield) and having it broken every now and then keeps my manual blocking from getting rusty :P
I'll max it when I get to level 33.
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #326 on: March 30, 2012, 01:07:47 pm »
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    18/18
    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 6
    Athletics: 6
    Weapon Master: 6
    One Handed: 111
    Polearm: 128   

I am looking for a hybrid build, this one is my idea for a 1h+shield+pole char, I already got the 1h and the shield heirloomed, but dunno wich polearm I should heirloom, I am looking for a versatile pole possible to use with shield and withou shield not bad as a 2h pole, my choices are war spear or war fork, what do you think? any advice?

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #327 on: March 30, 2012, 01:57:41 pm »
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I am looking for a 1h/lance build that is also nice on foot (perhaps also want to play as hoplite sometimes) and that can use an Arabian Warhorse. I was thinking about:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 50

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 7
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 7
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 3

    One Handed: 101
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 100
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

I want to use a Masterwork Heavy Lance while mounted and a Masterwork Military Cleaver (38cut dmg) as sidearm. Will my damage be high enough? As armor I am going to use a Lordly Byrnie, Lordly Wisby Gauntlets and a Masterpiece Knightly Kite Shield. Not sure if I have enough hit points/protection.

What do you think? :)

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #328 on: March 30, 2012, 07:26:47 pm »
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Churchill, that'd be fine. You know what you're doing with that set up :)

    18/18
    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 6
    Athletics: 6
    Weapon Master: 6
    One Handed: 111
    Polearm: 128   

I am looking for a hybrid build, this one is my idea for a 1h+shield+pole char, I already got the 1h and the shield heirloomed, but dunno wich polearm I should heirloom, I am looking for a versatile pole possible to use with shield and withou shield not bad as a 2h pole, my choices are war spear or war fork, what do you think? any advice?
War spear is flat out the best stand alone pole arm, and it is not too bad when used as a support hoplite weapon either.

However, if you want to hoplite, use the ashwood, and switch to 1h when you get into a 1v1 situation. I'd do that since you're doing split prof.
Both options will work perfectly viably.
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #329 on: April 05, 2012, 01:00:59 am »
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What do you guys think of this pure archer build?
I don't really know about the IF/ATH dispersion, kinda clueless there.
Going Rus bow if that matters.
And what about arrows? Is double tatar going to give me a huge rep cost? Double bodkin? Bodkin/Normal Arrows?

Sorry bout the many questions, just want to be sure :)

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