Solid Builds

[Patoson]

For swashbuckler (1h without shield) convert more skill points, since you don't need shield skill. For example, 27/12.

[Tybal]

im looking for some advice on how to make a build. basically i went to this thread and decided to go with the 24/15 build for polearms with 5 IF, 8 PS, 5 ATH, 5 WM and max out polearm.
now the problem is this, i found a liking to the war spear with a shield to play support and swap the shield to the back whenever im not against archers or in a clusterfuck. for this purpose i put 2 points in shield (since i noticed that one point was practicaly worthless since the shields are crap) now i would like to know what my options are down the road with this, should i take the 2 points out of iron flesh ? or should i convert less skill points to increase the skills i have ? like going for less than 24 str gimps my power str but would allow me for more hp and better shields, but is that a good idea ? and if so how much str should i get ?

[Cyclopsided]

21/15 is the default hoplite build, what you are mentioning in particular. (7 ps, 7 IF, 5 ath, 5 WM, 5 shield)

howver 24/15 is valid choice too, just you get shield instead of ironflesh. at level 31 and higher you can pump ironflesh again though.

it is all a matter of choice

[Tybal]

allright the 21/15 hoplite sounds really good ill give that a shot, thx!

[Bobthehero]

i need some help...

i want to try a good solid build with
1h - no shield - sword build.

any suggestions?

tnx

30/9 accept no substitutes.

[Tore]

gonna lvl up to 33 in 400k xp wat wpf to improve

gonna have 21/18 7 ps 7 pt 6 ath 6 shield 6 vm 125 throwing 100 1h

pls help

[San]

I'm pretty confident that agility 1hander could work as long as you max WM and put all of it into 1h. It makes extra attacks easier to land, you move quite fast with shorter weapons, and there are plenty of extra slots to carry a blunt/pierce sidearm.

I don't know why, but 18/21 1h no shield was the build that I performed the worst with, compared to 21/15 and 24/15 shielder and 15/24 1h no shield . I didn't feel fast enough and I just felt weak in comparison. I performed much better with 15/24 since I was able to at least avoid sticky situations. I think there is a magical point that once you start stacking a lot of athletics and agility, you become amazingly more effective since you still move fast even with a bit extra weight.

[Tore]

I'm pretty confident that agility 1hander could work as long as you max WM and put all of it into 1h. It makes extra attacks easier to land, you move quite fast with shorter weapons, and there are plenty of extra slots to carry a blunt/pierce sidearm.

I don't know why, but 18/21 1h no shield was the build that I performed the worst with, compared to 21/15 and 24/15 shielder and 15/24 1h no shield . I didn't feel fast enough and I just felt weak in comparison. I performed much better with 15/24 since I was able to at least avoid sticky situations. I think there is a magical point that once you start stacking a lot of athletics and agility, you become amazingly more effective since you still move fast even with a bit extra weight.

so.. I should get more 1h wpf?

[San]

If you have under 7PS, I think it's pretty important to have. The lower your PS the more important it is. You'll be fine with 6PS and medium/low amounts of wpf but I would say it would be more difficult in most cases if you're not a hybrid. The wpf damage increase helps alleviate the low PS and high athletics and wpf also lets you succeed with with hits that are easier to land.

[Tore]

If you have under 7PS, I think it's pretty important to have. The lower your PS the more important it is. You'll be fine with 6PS and medium/low amounts of wpf but I would say it would be more difficult in most cases if you're not a hybrid. The wpf damage increase helps alleviate the low PS. High athletics and wpf also lets you succeed with many quick hits.

I posted my build above... 7 ps

[San]

That seems great to me, a ranged hybrid doesn't need that much 1h wpf unless you do a lot of fighting with your melee weapon. Are you leveling up from a level 32 throwing hybrid already? Sorry, my first post was just a general comment so I missed the post.

[Tore]

That seems great to me, a ranged hybrid doesn't need that much 1h wpf unless you do a lot of fighting with your melee weapon. Are you leveling up from a level 32 throwing hybrid already? Sorry, my first post was just a general comment so I missed the post.

Yeah I am, usally carry x2 jarids or throwing spear and 1h and shield so I use my 1h a lot

[Bittersteel]

What's a good mongol fast cav build polearm/1h but mostly polearms?

[Canderous]

Does the archers and horse archers guides work with the new patch?

[Ronin]

Does the archers and horse archers guides work with the new patch?

You should be able to have more wpf in archery with high agi builds, but I can not tell what happens if you decide to invest a few points into a melee proficiency.