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Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« on: June 19, 2011, 08:24:33 am »
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Here is the Safavid Persian (Iranian) Armor from the Islamic Period of Persia (Iran).  The name of this armor is called "The Four Mirrors" or "Chahar Ayneh". 
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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/Nephtys/Oriental%20Warriors/Persian_Armour.jpg Similar armor was also adopted by Azeri Turks (Turkified Persians) as well as Ottoman Turks, and Mughal Indians.  Both the Ottoman and Mughal courts spoke Persian, however the common folk spoke mostly either Turkish or Indian. 

VIDEO OF PERSIAN STYLE ARMOR USED BY MUGHALS OF INDIA:

1) http://youtu.be/0okF6YByjkU (one on one combat)

2) http://youtu.be/XqmAC5asrLU (Muslim Mughals vs. Indian Hindus)


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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 08:32:01 am »
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Why would anybody wear this, it looks gay.

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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 01:21:24 pm »
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Why would anybody wear this, it looks gay.
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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2011, 05:33:11 pm »
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i like that 1+. Good for muslim themed players, especially that helmet.

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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 08:43:49 pm »
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It is the best looking armor I have seen, it is better than the clunky Euro armor that you could move at 1 mile an hour.  With this armor you get better protection and faster movement.  This armor was used for thousands of years and did not need to be changed due to it's strength and flexibility. 

It was the most refined armor of it's time, made from light weight damascene steel chain mail and plates.  It is the same kind of metal used for making swords that could cut through plate armor.  The process was similar to that of Japanese swords. 

BTW, the spike on the helmet was used as a last resort weapon and came in handy.  There are variations of the greaves where they also have spikes on them for the same purpose.  Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal armor were very similar except for regional differences. 

The Russians and Eastern Europeans copied the Persian Armor due to it's effectiveness in combat.  Most of the Euro heavy armor was put aside after the Crusades and the Islamic Armor was adopted along with it's technology...hence bringing in the Renaissance in Europe. 

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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 09:37:23 pm »
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It was the most refined armor of it's time, made from light weight damascene steel chain mail and plates.  It is the same kind of metal used for making swords that could cut through plate armor.  The process was similar to that of Japanese swords. 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reneissance It seems to disagree.
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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2011, 10:42:21 pm »
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It is the best looking armor I have seen, it is better than the clunky Euro armor that you could move at 1 mile an hour.  With this armor you get better protection and faster movement.  This armor was used for thousands of years and did not need to be changed due to it's strength and flexibility. 

It was the most refined armor of it's time..

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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 02:07:22 am »
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"Islam's Contribution To Europe's Renaissance

HRH, The Prince of Wales, Islam And The West

. . . we have underestimated the importance of 800 years of Islamic society and culture in Spain between the 8th and 15th centuries. The contribution of Muslim Spain to the preservation of classical learning during the Dark Ages, and to the first flowerings of the Renaissance, has long been recognised. But Islamic Spain was much more than a mere larder where Hellenistic knowledge was kept for later consumption by the emerging modern Western world. Not only did Muslim Spain gather and preserve the intellectual content of ancient Greek and Roman civilisation, it also interpreted and expanded upon that civilisation, and made a vital contribution of its own in so many fields of human endeavour - in science, astronomy, mathematics, algebra (itself an Arabic word), law, history, medicine, pharmacology, optics, agriculture, architecture, theology, music. Averroes and Avenzoor, like their counterparts Avicenna and Rhazes in the East, contributed to the study and practice of medicine in ways from which Europe benefited for centuries afterwards.

Islam nurtured and preserved the quest for learning. In the words of the tradition, 'the ink of the scholar is more sacred than the blood of the martyr'. Cordoba in the 10th century was by far the most civilised city of Europe. We know of lending libraries in Spain at the time King Alfred was making terrible blunders with the culinary arts in this country. It is said that the 400,000 volumes in its ruler's library amounted to more books than all the libraries of the rest of Europe put together. That was made possible because the Muslim world acquired from China the skill of making paper more than 400 years before the rest of non-Muslim Europe. Many of the traits on which modern Europe prides itself came to it from Muslim Spain. Diplomacy, free trade, open borders, the techniques of academic research, of anthropology, etiquette, fashion, various types of medicine, hospitals, all came from this great city of cities.

Medieval Islam was a religion of remarkable tolerance for its time, allowing Jews and Christians the right to practise their inherited beliefs, and setting an example which was not, unfortunately, copied for many centuries in the West. The surprise, ladies and gentlemen, is the extent to which Islam has been a part of Europe for so long, first in Spain, then in the Balkans, and the extent to which it has contributed so much towards the civilisation which we all too often think of, wrongly, as entirely Western. Islam is part of our past and our present, in all fields of human endeavour. It has helped to create modern Europe. It is part of our own inheritance, not a thing apart."
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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 10:36:57 pm »
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I don't think the Prince of Sheep shagia is an authority on european knowledge. However, I can see what he would have in common with Persia.

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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 01:19:23 pm »
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The east was a lot more technologically advanced than europe for the majority of medieval times, better craftsmanship (including weaponary), better medicine, better science, arguably better architecture. Europeans were living in their own filth while the east had relatively sanitary towns.
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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 01:27:02 pm »
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make model, textures and lod then it might be taken into consideration
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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2011, 03:53:44 am »
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Alas, you have found my weakness...I don't know how to make the models.  However, if you do know how to make them, please volunteer! :) I can help with logistical issues if anybody has questions in regards to designs, culture, history, material etc.
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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2011, 08:15:39 am »
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It was the most refined armor of it's time, made from light weight damascene steel chain mail and plates.  It is the same kind of metal used for making swords that could cut through plate armor.  The process was similar to that of Japanese swords. 

No sword no matter how its made can cut through plate armor, FUCK OFF

  Most of the Euro heavy armor was put aside after the Crusades and the Islamic Armor was adopted along with it's technology...hence bringing in the Renaissance in


Thats plain bullshit, armor in Europe kept going heavier and heavier.

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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2011, 08:49:15 am »
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you explain it wrong, show a video instead =p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCvOC2VwDc





don't we already have à lot of armor looking like the one show  by Safavid?
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Re: Persian Armor: Safavid Period (Shia Islamic)
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2011, 08:57:06 am »
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Thats an awesome video :D

The closest is the Mamluke mail which is more Arabian than Turkish/Persian.
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