The slot system removes hybrid choices.

[Bigfoob]

Before the slot system hybrids could decide between any combination of speed power and reach. Now most of those are gone and in my case I like to use the warbow and german poleaxe. Now if I want to use a warbow I can only use one-handers which I dispise or crappy poleaxes. I could use another bow like the short bow and use the german poleaxe but I don't like the short bow because I prefer damage over speed. It removes a lot of options and it really limits everything and makes hybrids less useful.

[Team_Jacob]

In before Gorath bitches about bow users being able to have melee.

[Bigfoob]

In before Gorath bitches about bow users being able to have melee.

Lol without a melee weapon you might as well kill yourself.

[Dezilagel]

Oh god...

[Gorath]

In before Gorath bitches about bow users being able to have melee.

You realize I'm like the largest supporter/fan of hybrids and always play one right?  I was the only 5 weapon hybrid pre-big patch that I know of and still regularly play 3 weapon hybrid builds currently.   

[Team_Jacob]

You realize I'm like the largest supporter/fan of hybrids and always play one right?  I was the only 5 weapon hybrid pre-big patch that I know of and still regularly play 3 weapon hybrid builds currently.   

1h + 2h + shield isn't what I would consider a hybrid brochacho.

[Gorath]

1h + 2h + shield isn't what I would consider a hybrid brochacho.

Why, you avoid facts, truth and logic?

1h/2h is a hybrid
1h/polearm is a hybrid
throwing/archer is a hybrid (a bad one but still)
1h/2h/polearm is a hybrid
xbow/archer is a hybrid

Anything except a PURE build is a hybrid.

[Team_Jacob]

Why, you avoid facts, truth and logic?

1h/2h is a hybrid
1h/polearm is a hybrid
throwing/archer is a hybrid (a bad one but still)
1h/2h/polearm is a hybrid
xbow/archer is a hybrid

Anything except a PURE build is a hybrid.

By your definition everything but 30/3 and 3/30 builds are hybrids. I'm pretty sure that most people would agree (an assumption, sure, but not totally off base) that 1h + shield + 2h, both being melee, isn't a hybrid build.

[Gorath]

By your definition everything but 30/3 and 3/30 builds are hybrids. I'm pretty sure that most people would agree (an assumption, sure, but not totally off base) that 1h + shield + 2h, both being melee, isn't a hybrid build.

Stats don't matter.     You're an idiot.  This is about weapon usage and you know it.

If you're splitting wpf between 2 or more types you're a hybrid.

[Team_Jacob]

Stats don't matter.     You're an idiot.  This is about weapon usage and you know it.

If you're splitting wpf between 2 or more types you're a hybrid.

So you're one of those people that argues semantics and then when they realize that their definition doesn't work, they change it again?

Even so, let's go with your new convoluted definition of a hybrid. I have had characters that I would consider a hybrid that had all their wpf in one weapon. Whether that be a shield + 2h hybrid (using the shield to close the distance then putting it on my back) or a 2h/polearm + 0 wpf crossbow hybrid.

I hope everyone else is as entertained by your inability to form a convincing argument and your monotonous droning about how mount and blade should be melee only.

[Gorath]

So you're one of those people that argues semantics and then when they realize that their definition doesn't work, they change it again? 

Never did that.  Once again you're simply going "LALALALALALALALALALA" as loud as you can while deficating text onto the forums without any semblance of logic or meaning.  Par for course for you really.

Frankly your sense of everything is polluted by mental vomit, but please feel free to keep blathering on.

[Seawied]

back on topic.


Slot system was designed to end most hybrids. An archer shouldn't be able to fire at me with a massive bow and then pull out a massive flamberg to fight on nearly even grounds against me. The system works well.

[Team_Jacob]

back on topic.


Slot system was designed to end most hybrids. An archer shouldn't be able to fire at me with a massive bow and then pull out a massive flamberg to fight on nearly even grounds against me. The system works well.

You can still hybridize fairly well. I'm currently running a spartan build: 1h/shield/throwing. The only issue I have with it is the amount of points I have to sink into throwing wpf and power throw to only get 4 throwing spears. I have also played as a crossbow/polearm hybrid where I had 8PS, 125 wpf in crossbow, and 125 wpf in polearm. I would use an arbalest and a quarter staff. I had the option of using a 1 slot crossbow and a beefier polearm if I so chose.

Other than throwing, the slot system is great. It makes hybrid characters just that, hybrids. They can have the best ranged or best melee weapon, but they have to sacrifice ammo and/or take a lower tier weapon.

[Brutal]

I have also played as a crossbow/polearm hybrid where I had 8PS, 125 wpf in crossbow, and 125 wpf in polearm.

Lies, that build is only possible at lvl  34 if you convert 12 skill to attribute

[Gorath]

Lies, that build is only possible at lvl  34 if you convert 12 skill to attribute

Before the last big patch this would have been entirely possible.  Now however you are correct.  Would it really surprise you though to find that Jacob just spews verbal excrement upon his posts rather than truths?