PLEASE can we have some kind of dodging?

[zagibu]

Rolling, o please god no...

[Gorath]

you told me once that you can head shot people so easy with war darts... just head shot him. 

If I was playing talking about ranged combat this would apply.  However I pretty much assumed that the melee combat part of the post was implied.  Derp.

but rolling or jumping might get lame really fast

Not really talking about rolling or jumping.  Talking about lunges/withdraws mostly.  HOWEVER if I had my way we would have a complex double tapped system along with a working stamina system, crouching, shift-sprinting + variable modifiers for sprinting (sprint + crouch = slide.  sprint + jump = dive.  etc), an off-hand key + variables (for shield bashing, grappling, using a weapon in off hand to parry/attack such as side sword + long dagger, etc).

One can dream after all.

[Team_Jacob]

Sorry gorath, but you are obsessed with realism so we can't have people rolling around in armor unless you want to make it so that every time you roll, a piece of your armor gets stuck in the ground or get's stuck in the wrong position and possibly comes off.

[Gorath]

Sorry gorath, but you are obsessed with realism so we can't have people rolling around in armor unless you want to make it so that every time you roll, a piece of your armor gets stuck in the ground or get's stuck in the wrong position and possibly comes off.

Too bad you don't know realism because it was quite possible to cartwheel and somersault (aka: rolling) in plate armor.  Go read a book before typing please.  Hell, I'd even settle for internet studying at this point.

[Team_Jacob]

Too bad you are like a child and think you know everything because it was quite possible to cartwheel and somersault (aka: rolling) in plate armor and get your shit, like articulating pieces (go read wikipedia or a book if you want all of them, because I don't want to list them), stuck and tangled on themselves and other shit. They even made weapons to abuse the articulating pieces of plate armor.  Go get some intelligence before typing please.  Hell, I'd even settle for DeVry at this point.

Fixed.

[Gorath]

Broken, though I'm going to claim fixed even though there's many videos and even produced documentaries about medieval arms/armor that disprove your "pieces getting stuck" bullshit theory.

At this point I'd settle for something other than a flaming pile every time you post.  Even a runny pile would be a nice change of pace.

[Team_Jacob]

At this point I'd settle for something other than a flaming pile every time you post.  Even a runny pile would be a nice change of pace.

Unlike you, I have seen many versions of plate and have actually had the chance to wear a reproduction. I can tell you that yes, you can get up off your ass fairly easily if you get knocked down, which is contrary to what a lot of people would think. As for rolling and cartwheeling, hell no. There's a chance that I will lose my weapon and there's a chance that I may injure myself with my weapon. All of the loose bits that cover vulnerable areas like the armpit and other articulating areas like the elbow and pauldrons have fairly large areas where they can easily get caught on something in the ground or on themselves. Not to mention that there's no way I would want to be rolling on uneven terrain, especially a dive roll like you are talking.

At this point I realize that you are completely devoid of anything resembling intelligence and will just leave you to wallow in your stupidity. Reading your posts amused me at first, but now it's just banal.

[Gorath]

blah blah blah I'm an idiot blah blah blah

 As for rolling and cartwheeling, hell no.

blah blah I'm a moron blah blah

Yup, you're full of shit.

Btw, cartwheeling in plate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm11yAXeegg

Oh, and rolling/somersaulting in plate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kKLgSTkCEo&feature=related

You're a fucking tard every which way you slice it.  Go to bed boy.

[[ptx]]

On my shielder alt i practically never have had much trouble with great mauls. I can either backpedal/spam, simply spam or, if they are agi-heavy build - block them or suffer only minor damage from CT.
Really, most of the time a mauler doesn't stand a chance against a competent shielder. They rape pikemen and such, though.
Actually, maulers seem like a support class to me.

[Team_Jacob]

Yup, you're full of shit.

Btw, cartwheeling in plate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm11yAXeegg

Oh, and rolling/somersaulting in plate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kKLgSTkCEo&feature=related

You're a fucking tard every which way you slice it.  Go to bed boy.

First video, the guy doesn't have a weapon, nor a helmet, and still has issues doing a cartwheel. You can also see, near the middle of the video, one of his buddies putting one of the thigh pieces back on.

Second video, again, no weapon. He is also wearing the smallest breastplate I have ever seen and it still takes him quite a while to complete a roll because he cannot get the sufficient forward momentum to complete the roll without a running start.

Show me a guy with a polearm, wearing full plate, doing a quick roll/cartwheel "dodge".

[Vibe]

Oh, and rolling/somersaulting in plate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kKLgSTkCEo&feature=related

Lol where the hell did they film this, it looks like Tibet

[Tzar]

Lol where the hell did they film this, it looks like Tibet

Thats in Goraths backyard at Castle BullshitStein

[Lady_Cicilia_Rosewood]

You're looking for excuses jacob. Any damage you claim it does to armour is complete circumstancial, as a matter of fact....only the Milanese plate could have that kind result. That is, if it's poorly constructed.

But the point is, I dont think it's possible to have the dodging mechanics with current hardcoding.

[Diomedes]

Crushthrough only ever breaks my block when it's an overhead (is this normal?  I dunno).  If this is standard then there's already the possibility of dodging left, right, and backward.  Also, as an unbalanced weapon, most crushthrough have a period in their swing during which they can no longer block and must continue their swing till the end.  I find this is the best time to hit them, or during by aggressive over-feinting.

[Casimir]

can you just imagine half your team rolling towards the battlefield, i can, it would be stupid.