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Cavalry - too little slots
« on: June 11, 2011, 04:33:52 am »
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I have spotted that being a cav build pretty much forces you to go a 1H build.

Why?

I am a 2H build at the moment.

I carry 2H sword + Lance = 4 slots.

I would be far more able if I had the ability to carry shield. But I can't.

Compare:

Now if I was a 1H build I could do this:

Carry 1H sword + shield + lance = 4 slots = survive a lot longer, if shot, if couched, if attacked. etc.

I think the lances need to be one slot. It's already horrible you can't sheathe them. At least make them 1 slot so 2h/polearm builds can carry a shield. Otherwise you are giving 1h build cav's a superior advantage when riding and when they fall off (consider when your horse dies, you can immediately shield up and stop the 2-3 arrows going for you and live versus the other two classes die.

Summary: Change lances to be 1 slot otherwise 1H build's get a far superior advantage being able to couche + hold a shield versus polearm/2h can't.

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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 04:35:58 am »
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No.
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 05:02:40 am »
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Hi i am also an AU player PK_Owens or the infamous OP_jumping_bean. Bean is a 2H cav build. I use the langes messer a 1H with a secondary mode it only takes 1 slot. It is powerful and fast but expensive being only one slot it frees up my item selection i can use a sword lance and shield with out any issues. This is a good solution to your problem
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 06:59:06 am »
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Hi i am also an AU player PK_Owens or the infamous OP_jumping_bean. Bean is a 2H cav build. I use the langes messer a 1H with a secondary mode it only takes 1 slot. It is powerful and fast but expensive being only one slot it frees up my item selection i can use a sword lance and shield with out any issues. This is a good solution to your problem

Pretty much this. Another solution is using some of the 1 slot ideas. I find the quarter staff to be a great ground weapon, and I've also seen the short spear work well
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 07:10:51 am »
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I would be far more able if I had the ability to carry shield. But I can't.

Behold, ye hath discovered the purpose of yon slot restrictions  :idea:
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2011, 07:23:11 am »
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Unsheathable weapons should be 1 slot. Maybe board shields and and huscarl shields should be 2 slot. I think it is realistic and fair for a cav player to have a smallish shield, lance, and 2H. The lance and shield is the cav build, the 2H is the unhorsed weapon; makes sense.

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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2011, 07:58:44 am »
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Unsheathable weapons should be 1 slot. Maybe board shields and and huscarl shields should be 2 slot. I think it is realistic and fair for a cav player to have a smallish shield, lance, and 2H. The lance and shield is the cav build, the 2H is the unhorsed weapon; makes sense.

This would only be balanced if it applied to all unsheathable weapons, including the pike.
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2011, 09:54:25 am »
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Yeah its definitely fair cav can hold a small shield.

Already have all couchable weapons unsheathable let us hold a shield, even if its 50 HP... I like above suggestion for super shields to be two slots and lances 1 slot

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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 10:08:44 am »
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You choose your build for its positives. You also have to live with its negatives. If you want a shield, choose a weapon set that accommodates that desire. Get a Langes Messer and deal with it being 1 hand WPF with that shield you wanted. You STILL get to use it 2 handed when you drop the shield.
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 10:44:29 am »
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it happened to all classes, no reason for cav to be be different

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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2011, 12:13:01 pm »
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lol the slot  system works perfect here: no more xbowshooting 2h sword carrying lance riders overkill u...cav is supposted to only carry a 1 slot shield + lance and 1h or a 1 slot bow with 2 arrows and a 1h wep for HAs it works very good. slot balance brought most balance to game...it works fine dont cry about it its saturday and every one had to change and overthink his equip after slot system was intodruced not only that you Danath...
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2011, 04:58:30 pm »
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Make the bastard swords 1 slot at least someone

Katana is carried as a 1h why is it 2 slot etc. Also cav got affected the most with this slot thing not anyone else. Cav = cav + melee fighter when knocked off. Has to be two things, needs the slots.

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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2011, 07:51:47 pm »
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Cav one: Heavy Lance, Shashka, Knightly Kite Shield.
Cav Two: Heavy Lance, Polearm backup.

My first one has survivability, the second one that works even better has less survivability (and the 4 shield skill now looks kinda stupid with the new patch), , but honestly has the tradeoff of a very nice melee capability.

I am ok with this. Cavalry does not need more slots, just choose your role.
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2011, 09:35:06 pm »
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What's the problem here?

If you want to carry a 2h/Polearm in your back while lancing, just.. bring it.

That low skill shield is useless anyway, I adjusted my playstyle by not relying on the low-shield. And it worked for me.

Also it was slowing me down all the time, Good Riddance, I say!
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Re: Cavalry - too little slots
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2011, 10:21:37 pm »
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cavalry is the most balanced class in the game, dont change it
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