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For the past 4 days either cRPG1 or cRPG4 has been running with new armor soak and reduce parameters. Did you feel any difference?

Yes, I noticed a big difference. cRPG1 felt alot better compared to cRPG4
4 (8%)
I noticed a small difference and cRPG1 felt a bit better than cRPG4.
2 (4%)
I didn't notice any difference at all.
26 (52%)
I noticed a small difference and cRPG4 felt a bit better than cRPG1.
0 (0%)
Yes, I noticed a big difference. cRPG4 felt alot better compared to cRPG1.
1 (2%)
I don't care.
17 (34%)

Total Members Voted: 50

Voting closed: June 09, 2011, 09:53:19 pm

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2011, 07:09:03 pm »
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Test it in a duel server maybe?

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2011, 08:57:25 pm »
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Most of the weapons interrupting you even with lower powerstrike doesn't sound very appealing.

Your chances of having your attack interrupted already in large fights is high enough, light damage class weapons should bounce off your plate armour.

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2011, 09:01:27 pm »
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the part where a tincan can be bounced around like a wolleyball betwean 3 peasants with staffs until he dies is really stupid, or?

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2011, 09:28:08 pm »
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This is a nerf to the reason why you wear plate to be honest.

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 09:29:08 pm »
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This is a nerf to the reason why you wear plate to be honest.
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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2011, 09:35:03 pm »
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Ill gladly trade being tossed around by a bunch of agi stacking racist frenchmans then being 1-2 hit by some random STR stacker....

But  yeah in the end Paul should have kept the glance and bounce the way it is and reduce the dmg u get from High PS users so wearing plate meant something rather then looks and being a money sink.. one can dream cant he??  :cry:
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2011, 10:24:57 pm »
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I am all about less glancing blows.  I hope it works its way into NA!
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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2011, 10:56:21 pm »
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This is a nerf to the reason why you wear plate to be honest.

Why not have ironflesh give your armor more dmg absorb instead of extra hp?

This would make sense so we could eventually have a 3rd stat, constitution which does add HP instead of STR, which is silly.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2011, 10:58:14 pm by Digglez »

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2011, 10:05:01 am »
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the part where a tincan can be bounced around like a wolleyball betwean 3 peasants with staffs until he dies is really stupid, or?

But you've to understand Paul kept glancing with his 0 PS build, something had to be done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2011, 02:30:05 pm »
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The results seem odd.
Well not the poll, i too voted same way as over 50% people.


But the armor soak/reduction values.
Using my heavy armor, i get body armor over 70. (Top loomed armor + gloves give 86 protection, not sure does anyone have that?)
And yet i dont see any significance difference between heavy, medium or light armors. (Except heavy armor makes you really, really slow and more prone to get hit)

2h will kill me in 2 - 3 hits no matter what the armor is. Difference is with light armor i can run faster and dodge easier. So actually i survive longer in light armors.
As for archers, yes the heavy armor takes few more arrows but at the same time it lowers your changes to dodge, resulting in those very same extra few hits.
1h shielders do seem to be killing me more than usually, wonder if thats the result of glance been lowered/removed?
All in all, heavy armor is just not worth the 1000 - 1700 gold repair costs.


So this testing with armor values is extreme good thing.
Hope to see more distinguishable difference between heavy to light armors. (Other than the running/moving speed)


ps. Not sure whats the public opinion is but: Over 50 heavy, 49 - 35 medium, under 34 light. Or somewhere in those lines..


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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2011, 03:48:50 pm »
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Cant say bout the servers, but...


reducing glancing helps 1h v 2h a lot, since most of the times a (decent) 1h dies to 2h is after glancing, and it happens a lot... many of my fights look like this:

i hit (enemy alive)
* many blocks from both
i hit (enemy alive)
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i hit (enemy alive)
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i glance - enemy 1 shots me

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2011, 03:52:55 pm »
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Armor has no difference anymore...
Heavy Armor, death in 2-3 hits. Medium and Low Armor the same.
But it costs more, and slows you more down.

I underrated some guys in melee the last days, it result in a death for me.
One Guy in Peasant Cloths killed me with a wodden sword in 3 hits. I didnt even noticed him rly. The hits didnt make a great sound or something like other hits. I saw 3 hits and I was dead... should have blocked him but I underrated him.
Same with Archers, they pull out their little Maces/Picks and kill you in 3 hits also.

I will use leather Boots, Leather Gloves, Kuyak and a helmet with around 30 Armor now.
Its cheap, I am fast, and I stay alive as long as a in heavy gear.

1handers are more difficult to fight then ever. you see the swing rly late, and he hits you with 2-3 hits to death.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2011, 03:54:38 pm by IceManX »

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2011, 04:00:13 pm »
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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2011, 04:09:20 pm »
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Im gonna keep my Reinforced Heraldic Transitional Armour and even loom it to lordly after retire no matter how useless it might be i still prefer too look like a knight rather then some savage or low tier infantry unit.

That said i still think Heavy armor needs a reduction in price since its rly unbalanced compared in price with the medium to low tier armors who provide the same protection.

Its kinda stupid we are forced to pay for looks...

With this patch/change there will no longer be any reason to wear high teir armor besides looks thus a price nerf is in place if you ask me.

I could say the same about high tier horses compared to medium tier horses the courser the Arab warhorse its the same story rly you pay a shitload of gold to become slow and zerged by ligther horses... its sorta silly lmao what some of us dont do to look awesome  :P
« Last Edit: June 11, 2011, 04:13:41 pm by Tzar »
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Feedback new soak/reduce values
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2011, 04:30:56 pm »
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Im gonna keep my Reinforced Heraldic Transitional Armour and even loom it to lordly after retire no matter how useless it might be i still prefer too look like a knight rather then some savage or low tier infantry unit.

That said i still think Heavy armor needs a reduction in price since its rly unbalanced compared in price with the medium to low tier armors who provide the same protection.

Its kinda stupid we are forced to pay for looks

I disagree. Several of my clan members were talking about the cost of their sustainable loadouts were, and I tried the same with one of my alts. Using a German Poleaxe is expensive, so I assumed that I would have little room for proper armor... Boy was I wrong! I am still making money even without playing with my clan and with normal modifiers, and I now have a Barbutte Helmet, Wisby Gauntlets, Coat of black plates and some decent boots. One of my other alts I even ramped it up and am sustaining even with an upgrade to a Great Helm with Hat and Transitional Armor, not exactly cheap.

Either way I am using top quality armor and sustaining it, so I am ok with "the best" actually draining funds (all that plate stuff like milanese).
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