best 1h in your opinion?

[Torp]

Wtf? Do these diverse answers imply that the item balancers did a good job for once?

as i said; yes

but i think you would get a similar result with polearms and 2H's (just not as diverse as this though)

[EyeBeat]

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Yep.

[H4rdn3ssKill3r]

Long espada eslanova-o-doom

I just noticed bob, we share a-lot of similarities, we both have MW long espeda and we both love it

[Blondin]

Wtf? Do these diverse answers imply that the item balancers did a good job for once?

agreed Paul, that's right, you do the best, and some of us may call you crappy, you may have made some mistake, but it's a real hard work to balance things, it needs to have a general point of view, and it needs to refrain your personnal preferences.

[Lezard]

agreed Paul, that's right, you do the best, and some of us may call you crappy, you may have made some mistake, but it's a real hard work to balance things, it needs to have a general point of view, and it needs to refrain your personnal preferences.

Paul never make mistakes. Though it must be hard to be perfect when there's so many mistakers around him!

[Grok]

This is my first character who is approaching first retirement and I'm really struggling with my "favorite" 1H sword -- in particular which to heirloom.

It was Italian Sword for most of the way, great blend of speed and reach, but I just started trying out some of the other weapons.

In particular I've been sorta liking the Grosse Messer (I tried it after seeing Cascade using it).  The +4 cut damage difference between it and the Italian Sword seems to make a HUGE difference in terms of how many hits needed to get a kill.  Though the reach does take some getting used to.

The Elite Scimitar is nice too, but it seems to take longer to hit the target than the other two...or maybe I'm just not yet used to it.

At Masterwork level is there a noticeable difference between the swords?  Are there better options if I generally like these two/three weapons?

MW Italian Sword
Speed:  100
Length:  98
26 Pierce
33 Cut

MW Grosse Messer
Speed:  100
Length:  85
21 Pierce
37 Cut

MW Elite Scimitar
Speed:  100
Length:  100
0 Pierce
35 Cut

Any help or recommendations appreciated!

Grok

[Kansuke]

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[Diomedes]

The difference is noticeable but certainly a matter of preference.  Most players with any of those masterwork weapons rarely pick up any one of the others.  The only weapon which seems to stand triumphant above the rest is the MW long espada, but then again it's pretty expensive and a comparatively boring weapon.  If we want to overly simplify would could push them into some niches:

Gross Messer - devastating close combat infantry sword
Elite Scimitar - cavalry sword, off-hand weapon for bowmen, supporting sword
Italian Sword - somewhere in-between the other two without significantly out-doing either of the them except in terms of versatility

Long Espada - cavalry sword, close combat sword, anti-tin can sword, anti-horse sword, nice off-hand weapon for bowmen, supporting sword

It used to be that the disparity between non-side sword/long espada's and the top two swords was so great that almost everyone used one of the top two.  Now the devs seem to have struck a fine balance which affords far more interesting diversity.  I'm happy about it 


EDIT for new post:  Kan I find it's a good weapon but not long enough for a pure cutter.  Perhaps I'm just inexperienced with it.

[DrKronic]

I change my vote to Nordic champion,  the length of 102 really seems to help, speed @ 97is faster than most any polearm/2h, and it has good cut and usable thrust

[Glyph]

i prefer the elite scimitar, just because it can be used very well from horseback, it's long, fast and it does a lot of damage. i really don't understand why people take a sword that has good thrust damage, with 2handers i can get it, but with onehanders? explain it to mehhh!!!

[Bobthehero]

Long espada and espada trust both do far more damage than the 2 handers can do, makes them the perfect weapon for 1 shotting.

[Diomedes]

i prefer the elite scimitar, just because it can be used very well from horseback, it's long, fast and it does a lot of damage. i really don't understand why people take a sword that has good thrust damage, with 2handers i can get it, but with onehanders? explain it to mehhh!!!

 

The 1h thrust serves 3 main uses:
1) improves capacity to feint (4 moves rather than 3)
2) it can be a great tin can opener
3) allows for some excellent anti-cav maneuvers

[zagibu]

Actually, many inexperienced 2h underestimate the reach of a 102 cm 1h stab. You can usually backpedal a bit, then suddenly start forward and do a stab, and you will even hit them if they had a swing prepared. Then follow it up with an overhead, and if they had light armor, they are dead. It's also good for when 2 ppl follow you, one bashing on your shield, the other following a step behind. Just after you blocked a hit of the closer one, start forward and stab his companion.

Stabbing also works close on if you use the rotation trick some polearmers rely on.
This is why I prefer weapons with a decent stab. I currently use a Knightly Arming Sword and am very content with it.

But every player has his own preference, so I suggest you test some more weapons, like the Arabian Cavalry sword (surprising range when slashing right to left) or the Military cleaver (high damage).

Also try out axes and hammers. Knockdown is pretty useful, as is bonus against shields.

[Rhygar666]

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[Diomedes]

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It's shorter than many, has a strong cut but generally par speed, a high difficultly, and all that for high cut damage?  I've never really seen the appeal.