Penalty for using 2 handed in 1 hand with shield

[AirPhforce]

In the polearms section, many polearms have a Penalty with Shield attribute, however nothing in 2 handers has this.

What 2 handers have the penalty and what is it?

[EponiCo]

All 2h are slower and weaker when used with shields unless they changed it and by so much that you'd always want a onehander when you fight with shield.

[AirPhforce]

All 2h are slower and weaker when used with shields unless they changed it and by so much that you'd always want a onehander when you fight with shield.

Well that's what im asking.

[Quirian]

You can only use a few 2hers with shields (Bastard weapons, Morning star, spiked mace and stuff)

When using them as a 1h weapon you will suffer a 35 percent dmg and speed penalty. (and of course 1h wpp count and not 2h)

[Dekiri]

Some of the 2hand weps have "the shield penalty thing" and they can't even be wielded with a shield .. does it also apply to having a shield on your back then ? or is it a mistake?

[Erika_Furudo]

Some of the 2hand weps have "the shield penalty thing" and they can't even be wielded with a shield .. does it also apply to having a shield on your back then ? or is it a mistake?

What it means is that they can't be used at the same time as a shield.

But they can have the shield on the back and switch between the weapon and the shield.

Atleast I believe so. Never used any of those high-end 2handed weapons.

[Dekiri]

No it does not... There are some you can use with a shield that also have "penalty with shield" thats what is confusing there...