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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2011, 06:19:33 pm »
+1
I was actually about to suggest something similar.. Divide by 2, with a cap of 4 heirlooms.

Honestly, you really only need to really punish the people that KNEW they were abusing the system. Gen 5 or 6 really get bashed with the /3 :(

yeah this. making people with 3 have 1 isn't going to make them rare when people with 15 will still have 5. dividing by 3 is a silly. (but then I cant help but be bias)

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2011, 06:50:32 pm »
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i think you should reset all ttributes, skills and wpf as many people would like to remake their chars now

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2011, 06:51:58 pm »
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i am proud to announce that I will have to steal some of your heirlooms.

As a tradeoff, you will be allowed to respec those.

The reason is that there are too many floating around, and I want to make heirlooms very special, and have some further secret plans with em that only work if they are rare. The old retiring was way too abusable.

So, what will happen:
your amount of positive modifiers gets summed up, divided by 3, the result is rounded up. You can use those points to increase any weapon you want.

Hope you understand.

Comrade chadz.

I think a lot of people missed the glowing section in the above quote.

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2011, 06:54:05 pm »
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i suggest a soft cap.
what you do is, everything below 6 you divide by 2. Everything above you divide by 3. Everything above 12 GOES AWAY.
This would be funny.
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2011, 06:57:08 pm »
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hate you chadz  :shock:
with my main char as an example gen 9.
Balanced shortened spear (+1)
Balanced dagger (+1) - yay i can finally get rid of this thing??
Lordly brigandine (+3)
Deadly pike (+2)
Powerful Morningstar (+2)
this gives me +9 so would allow a +3 to a new heirloom? btw i tested inheriting items from an already retired character ages ago with the balanced shortened spear and reported it to you & wooki, that why i have 1 extra heirloom item.
I'd like to heirloom length onto my pike pretty please :P

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2011, 07:00:13 pm »
+1
Divide by 2, with a cap of 4 heirlooms.

I could get behind this idea. +1
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2011, 07:34:07 pm »
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Aww cwap. My balanced nordic sword. :cry:
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2011, 07:42:15 pm »
+1
i suggest a soft cap.
what you do is, everything below 6 you divide by 2. Everything above you divide by 3. Everything above 12 GOES AWAY.

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2011, 07:46:15 pm »
+1
I think a lot of people missed the glowing section in the above quote.

I think most people followed that just fine.. 1, 2, 3rd gen would get 1.. 4, 5, 6th would get 2.. and so on.

While I agree with the notion that cutting back on heirloomed items is a good idea, people on the 3rd, 6th, 9th.. (x3's) are unduly punished as they get nothing from an extra 2 retirements. Which is why I support only dividing by 2. Only 1 retirement is really "worthless" instead of possibly 2, and isn't so big of a kick in the teeth. And like I mentioned above, a cap on the maximum you can have should be implemented as well, as anyone with 9+ gens was simply exploiting the previous system..

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2011, 07:51:32 pm »
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Hope you understand.

Comrade chadz.

Da Comrade chadz, for the greater good!

I also hope you take my idea into consideration to share experience among the players equally so the capitalist scum don't take it all!

Yours,

Comrade Tuonela of Soviet chadz Republic

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #85 on: January 10, 2011, 07:57:46 pm »
+1
I think most people followed that just fine.. 1, 2, 3rd gen would get 1.. 4, 5, 6th would get 2.. and so on.

While I agree with the notion that cutting back on heirloomed items is a good idea, people on the 3rd, 6th, 9th.. (x3's) are unduly punished as they get nothing from an extra 2 retirements. Which is why I support only dividing by 2. Only 1 retirement is really "worthless" instead of possibly 2, and isn't so big of a kick in the teeth. And like I mentioned above, a cap on the maximum you can have should be implemented as well, as anyone with 9+ gens was simply exploiting the previous system..

Actualy 4th gen will still get one item because they've only got 3 heirlooms and 1st gen gets nothing  :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 07:59:25 pm by cutsomecheesewithmybow »

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #86 on: January 10, 2011, 08:07:49 pm »
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Actualy 4th gen will still get one item because they've only got 3 heirlooms and 1st gen gets nothing  :rolleyes:

True that.  :o

I meant 1st, 2nd, 3rd, yada, RETIREMENT.. not "gen"

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #87 on: January 10, 2011, 08:12:14 pm »
+1
i suggest a soft cap.
what you do is, everything below 6 you divide by 2. Everything above you divide by 3. Everything above 12 GOES AWAY.

This doesn't work. This makes you get more heirlooms at 5th gen than at 7th. The previous suggestion of dividing by 2, with a max cap of 4 heirlooms is better, imo.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 08:13:19 pm by Heroin »
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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #88 on: January 10, 2011, 08:18:34 pm »
+1
I think most people followed that just fine.. 1, 2, 3rd gen would get 1.. 4, 5, 6th would get 2.. and so on.

While I agree with the notion that cutting back on heirloomed items is a good idea, people on the 3rd, 6th, 9th.. (x3's) are unduly punished as they get nothing from an extra 2 retirements. Which is why I support only dividing by 2. Only 1 retirement is really "worthless" instead of possibly 2, and isn't so big of a kick in the teeth. And like I mentioned above, a cap on the maximum you can have should be implemented as well, as anyone with 9+ gens was simply exploiting the previous system..

That's kinda the whole point in chadz post where he said retirement was too exploitable.  Retiring was super easy in the old game, you just wait a week, hardly play at all, and then retire.  Now it will take much more effort since you need to make it to 31.  No one is getting screwed by the 1/3.  If you retired on gen 4 or 7 for instance you make out a bit better when compared to 6 or 8, but it's not like retiring was especially hard before.  Much better  to do this than to totally screw over any new players since it is much much much harder to get one in the new patch.

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Re: more chadzhate incoming - heirloom theft
« Reply #89 on: January 10, 2011, 08:33:31 pm »
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Just remove 'em all. Then give EVERYONE one, just so the new guys can see what it's like. Bye bye multi stacks of heirlooms, hello even ground. For the people that retired 12 times, etc., at least you got the modifier to xp bonus, and got to play with a super character for a while. It's a game, you had fun, we all win.