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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #165 on: October 11, 2018, 03:19:51 am »
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How about you stop derailing this thread kthx wtf is wrong with you this is important !

you're absolutely right, thanks for being a voice of reason in this chaos

can we please focus on determining the most preferred situation for the finals before, as we are beginning round 4 fights soon
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #166 on: October 11, 2018, 03:31:34 am »
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must be nice to be bad and just say "i didn't try bro!"

i don't think it'd be nice. i think it'd be embarrassing as fuck and make you look like a massive retard
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #167 on: October 11, 2018, 04:21:32 am »
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #168 on: October 11, 2018, 04:41:36 am »
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Well fact is, NA players are mostly casual normies not knowing mechanics & who would have no chance against competitive EU players on the same ping.

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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #169 on: October 11, 2018, 04:43:38 am »
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a) -Winner of lower bracket gets third place, finals match is between top 2 upper bracket winners

b) -A Best of 3 of FT7's for the final with the winner of the upper bracket starting with a technical win regardless of whether they have fought their opponent prior to or not (this was decided based off of Tristan's suggestion, but also the notes from Nikkle and Kadeth saying that 3 FT7's would be more stamina than skill. In other words, the Winner of the upper bracket would only have to beat their opponent in ONE FT7, but the lower bracket competitor would have to beat the upper bracket competitor twice).

Option B, that's how double elimination brackets should work.
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #170 on: October 11, 2018, 06:13:56 am »
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #171 on: October 11, 2018, 06:14:58 am »
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also in the interests of fun I hope to get an audience for the round 4 fights and onwards, I will also record the duels from that point on! so please message me or the fighters if you're interested in watching
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #172 on: October 11, 2018, 06:50:03 am »
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if we do go with option B me thinks that the ft7s should be held on different days. (unless one the undefeated guy just beats him on the first ft7)

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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #173 on: October 11, 2018, 03:00:32 pm »
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This seemingly makes it harder for the person in the upper bracket to win compared to normal double elimination rules. With regular (FGC) rules, the person on "winners side" of grand finals needs to beat the person coming from "losers side" only once, while the player already in losers needs to beat the other player once to put them into losers and "reset the bracket" and then again to eliminate them from the tournament (since it's double elimination).

With your method the winner would also have to win twice if they haven't already dueled, which puts them on even footing with the player coming from losers. Not to mention the player coming from losers would technically be "triple eliminated."

In Dota 2 the competitors on the "winners side" do not get any extra benefit in the grand finals. The big benefit is having to play far less elimination games if you stay in the upper bracket.

In this tournament you can have a tournament champion that wins 6 duels if he was seeded into the second round and stays winners side. On the other extreme, if a player were to be seeded into the first round and lose, drop to losers bracket, and fight their way back to the grand finals they will have had to win 11 duels, nearly twice as many fights.
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #174 on: October 11, 2018, 05:09:30 pm »
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In Dota 2 the competitors on the "winners side" do not get any extra benefit in the grand finals. The big benefit is having to play far less elimination games if you stay in the upper bracket.

In this tournament you can have a tournament champion that wins 6 duels if he was seeded into the second round and stays winners side. On the other extreme, if a player were to be seeded into the first round and lose, drop to losers bracket, and fight their way back to the grand finals they will have had to win 11 duels, nearly twice as many fights.

Yeah, competing in fewer matches is a nice perk, however I think that a dueling-focused tournament should follow rules more in line with the FGC, since warband duels are almost a fighting game of their own. Also, while most FGC tournaments are completed in only 2-3 days, players going on a long losers run oftentimes build momentum which can help them should they make it to grands where they have to face off against a "cold" player waiting in winners... so playing more matches isn't strictly a bad thing. While momentum is far less impactful in a month-long crpg dueling tourney where you may only have one match per week, playing more matches can at least get you in a better mindset should you suffer from nerves or something.
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #175 on: October 11, 2018, 05:56:00 pm »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx8jAMdfLAU ---BlackRose Duel tourny

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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #176 on: October 12, 2018, 12:14:54 am »
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I vote B. It's more anime that way.

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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #177 on: October 12, 2018, 12:38:37 am »
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hi

me and archi never got to fight, archi conceded me the win as he wasn't able to turn up but i said in the case he couldn't make it then i'd concede him the win as he had to work later than he thought. i'm sticking to my word as like i mentioned before i can only attend on friday and saturday, given that i'm unable to follow the quick paced nature of the tourney i hand the victory to Archi so that he may fight on in my stead

to clarify:

ArchiBot wins because I dq myself from the tourney.

I'd have loved to fight more people but it's clear that I can't keep up with the pace of the tourney given my work hours and the fact that it's NA. best of luck to you all, sad that i can't participate more but such is life.

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hahhahahAHAhahahahHAHHAHAHHA u THUGHT u could RTHREANTEN YeldR0F asington? SAYing ur GOna DQ me if Me an ARcho dont FITE befo4 frIDAY!?! well ges what bi1CH i dq MY S E L F thats rite nerd what now hHUH fuCK YOU and ur VILLAGE
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #178 on: October 12, 2018, 02:37:10 am »
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Re: NA 1v1/Duel Tournament! Prizes/Rules Confirmed!
« Reply #179 on: October 12, 2018, 02:57:02 am »
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