Stones

[Sparvico]

dude why u always bullying me?

Because you are always bullying others.

[kasMVC]

Because you are always bullying others.

why dont u ask me what my favorite curry is again u bully or say "ezpz" after u kill me like a bully would

[Sparvico]

Cikel do you think it's a funny meme to cry every time someone treats you the way you treat others? Is that why you do this?

[Yeldur]

I personally think that completely destroying a class because we don't like it is a terrible development decision. A lot of people don't like archers, do we nerf the class so hard into the floor that it does no damage anymore and is useless? No. We don't. We B A L A N C E them. Destroying a class is NOT balance, it's the very OPPOSITE. One of the main reasons I enjoy C-RPG is because of all the stupid and whacky builds that you can make, I enjoy playing 3/41 (using old builds as an example as I don't know new builds off by heart yet) agi daggerers, I enjoy playing pure STR pure fisticuff tanks, I enjoyed playing an agi based rock thrower.

Rock throwers are a small majority of C-RPG but I do enjoy the class, and now that it's been nerfed, I can no longer play it without effectively trolling because of how useless it now is. The nerf was justified to me by saying it's a peasant weapon. Well we best get started on nerfing the other peasant weapons then right? When is the Pitch Fork nerf coming in? When is the Peasant Knife nerf coming in? When is the beefsplitter nerf coming in? When is the Cleaver nerf coming in? When is the Trident nerf coming in? When is the Scythe nerf coming in? Face it.  A nerf on this scale is utterly ridiculous. Maybe rock throwers needed a bit of tuning, a bit of balancing, but destroying a class is stupid, and it also leaves me wondering, what class will be destroyed next? We seem to be getting pushed towards just playing META builds like 2h kuyak hero spammers as opposed to creating and making new fun builds to piss around with.

Another justification I saw for the destruction of the class was that they could 1 hit people who were wearing no armour, and to that I say, so what? If you have a fucking rock lobbed at you and it smashes you in the head then it is likely to do some serious fucking damage, especially when you're not wearing any armour lmfao. Rocks do low damage to tanky players and high damage to people without armour, which is why they were used to attack archers, as they were actually a counter for them (Which is actually why I played rock thrower, to attack archers and xbows) So by destroying this you have also (technically) buffed archers and xbows. (Very minor buff but it's still a buff)


also inb4 i get a salty reply about how some tincan got destroyed by a rock thrower and firmly believes that because of that one occasion rock throwers deserve the destruction

[Sparvico]

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I personally think that completely destroying a class because we don't like it is a terrible development decision. A lot of people don't like archers, do we nerf the class so hard into the floor that it does no damage anymore and is useless? No. We don't. We B A L A N C E them. Destroying a class is NOT balance, it's the very OPPOSITE. One of the main reasons I enjoy C-RPG is because of all the stupid and whacky builds that you can make, I enjoy playing 3/41 (using old builds as an example as I don't know new builds off by heart yet) agi daggerers, I enjoy playing pure STR pure fisticuff tanks, I enjoyed playing an agi based rock thrower.

Rock throwers are a small majority of C-RPG but I do enjoy the class, and now that it's been nerfed, I can no longer play it without effectively trolling because of how useless it now is. The nerf was justified to me by saying it's a peasant weapon. Well we best get started on nerfing the other peasant weapons then right? When is the Pitch Fork nerf coming in? When is the Peasant Knife nerf coming in? When is the beefsplitter nerf coming in? When is the Cleaver nerf coming in? When is the Trident nerf coming in? When is the Scythe nerf coming in? Face it.  A nerf on this scale is utterly ridiculous. Maybe rock throwers needed a bit of tuning, a bit of balancing, but destroying a class is stupid, and it also leaves me wondering, what class will be destroyed next? We seem to be getting pushed towards just playing META builds like 2h kuyak hero spammers as opposed to creating and making new fun builds to piss around with.

Another justification I saw for the destruction of the class was that they could 1 hit people who were wearing no armour, and to that I say, so what? If you have a fucking rock lobbed at you and it smashes you in the head then it is likely to do some serious fucking damage, especially when you're not wearing any armour lmfao. Rocks do low damage to tanky players and high damage to people without armour, which is why they were used to attack archers, as they were actually a counter for them (Which is actually why I played rock thrower, to attack archers and xbows) So by destroying this you have also (technically) buffed archers and xbows. (Very minor buff but it's still a buff)


also inb4 i get a salty reply about how some tincan got destroyed by a rock thrower and firmly believes that because of that one occasion rock throwers deserve the destruction

I don't think that rock throwers are now, or ever have been, or ever should be, a distinct class from throwers. If anything they were a subversion of the rest of the balance work that had been done on throwers up to this point.

[Asheram]

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I don't think that rock throwers are now, or ever have been, or ever should be, a distinct class from throwers. If anything they were a subversion of the rest of the balance work that had been done on throwers up to this point.

Except for the fact that rock throwers are the only throwers who can carry the same amount of ammo as an archer- 2 bags of mw bodkins=36 ammo count, rock thrower could carry 36 rocks in 3 slots and carry a melee weapon.

I think if they are going to keep this nerf on rocks then they should increase the ammo count of throwing daggers and throwing stars.

[kasMVC]

sparvico do u think its funny when u say "ezpz" after u kill someone cuz no one else thinks its funny

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Throwers have less ammo because they are more mobile and do more damage per shot. Rock throwers aren't a class, throwing is.

[Sparvico]

sparvico do u think its funny when u say "ezpz" after u kill someone cuz no one else thinks its funny

I find it highly amusing. Especially because of how bad I am at this game.

Throwers have less ammo because they are more mobile and do more damage per shot. Rock throwers aren't a class, throwing is.

Exactly this. Rock throwers used to be able to have all the effective damage of an archer (given the ranges involved in both and the relative easiness of tracking closer targets resulting in more hits on target for rock throwers compared to archers) without the movement debuff or really any negative downside beyond the investment in power throw (which all other throwers will have anyhow).

[Asheram]

Throwers have less ammo because they are more mobile and do more damage per shot. Rock throwers aren't a class, throwing is.

But do they really do more dmg per shot? Bodkin is 1 pierce which is less as you say but isnt that number also coupled with the bows dmg you use too? For example a yew longbow does 30 cut damage so wouldnt it be like 31 dmg as opposed to my throwing daggers that do only 27 cut?

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

But do they really do more dmg per shot? Bodkin is 1 pierce which is less as you say but isnt that number also coupled with the bows dmg you use too? For example a yew longbow does 30 cut damage so wouldnt it be like 31 dmg as opposed to my throwing daggers that do only 27 cut?

Archery may outperform a throwing dagger in terms of damage (but not rate of fire), but a throwing lance definitely does more damage per shot. 2 slots of lances and 2 slots of daggers gives you 6 shots at 45 pierce (+0, 49 at +3) and an additional 8 shots doing 27(+0, 31 at +3)

[kasMVC]

I find it highly amusing. Especially because of how bad I am at this game.

Exactly this. Rock throwers used to be able to have all the effective damage of an archer (given the ranges involved in both and the relative easiness of tracking closer targets resulting in more hits on target for rock throwers compared to archers) without the movement debuff or really any negative downside beyond the investment in power throw (which all other throwers will have anyhow).

so u admit ur a bully a sick bully who finds joy and humor in bullying others

[Asheram]

Archery may outperform a throwing dagger in terms of damage (but not rate of fire), but a throwing lance definitely does more damage per shot. 2 slots of lances and 2 slots of daggers gives you 6 shots at 45 pierce (+0, 49 at +3) and an additional 8 shots doing 27(+0, 31 at +3)

But I spec my class (which I used to use rocks when it was pod and had more points to put into athletics than I can now) so I can try to close the distance on archers/cav and pelt them with rocks (well daggers now). Throwing lances are too heavy for what I do- the set up you mentioned is 12 lbs. 3 bags of rocks and a sai is only 8.3lbs and 3 bags of daggers and a sai is only 5.3 ilbs.

[Sparvico]

so u admit ur a bully a sick bully who finds joy and humor in bullying others

Typing ezpz in chat isn't bullying someone cikel. Calling them the N-word for fifteen minutes in admin chat might be though. Just a thought for ya.

[kasMVC]

Typing ezpz in chat isn't bullying someone cikel. Calling them the N-word for fifteen minutes in admin chat might be though. Just a thought for ya.

uh yea i didnt call anyone specifically that i said "yo those my n*ggas" and such i didnt say "hey sparvico u n*gger"

but whatever fits the narrative of a bully go ahead bully do you