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Remove turnrate nerf
« on: January 17, 2018, 01:27:26 am »
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2018, 01:34:51 am »
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So we can get roflcopter stabbed even easier? no pls :(

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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 02:01:55 am »
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 02:12:23 am »
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2018, 04:57:33 am »
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So we can get roflcopter stabbed even easier? no pls :(

People already do tons of roflcopter swings, i dont see how bringing back spinstabs would be somehow change things except make gameplay smoother.

Turnrate nerf is godawful for gameplay, it removes layers of depth in duelling and replaces it with frustrating lack of control. Spinstabs is really just a gitgud complaint, one of many and its very noticeable when you go to native and it just feels as if restraints are gone and you can play normally again.
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2018, 06:44:22 am »
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2018, 07:16:39 am »
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2018, 08:29:58 am »
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Well some weeks ago I synced my camera movement sensitivity with the turn rate of my 1h sword (thats right a tiny little 1h sword) just to making spinning less of a camera fuck, and I've noticed when I play on my big clunky polearms or whatever that I turn at pretty much the same speed, like, really? my English bill weights 3.0  vs my knightly arming sword's 1.7 (that's well over a 50% weight increase over the Knightly arming sword) and there's barely any disparity between the weapons' turn times.

I think that the turn rate nerf should be modified so that the lighter weapons turn MUCH faster and the middle-weight 2hers and polearms get a slight slight turn buff. long maul and great maul turn rates seem pretty fine to me.

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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2018, 08:56:44 am »
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Well some weeks ago I synced my camera movement sensitivity with the turn rate of my 1h sword (thats right a tiny little 1h sword) just to making spinning less of a camera fuck, and I've noticed when I play on my big clunky polearms or whatever that I turn at pretty much the same speed, like, really? my English bill weights 3.0  vs my knightly arming sword's 1.7 (that's well over a 50% weight increase over the Knightly arming sword) and there's barely any disparity between the weapons' turn times.

I think that the turn rate nerf should be modified so that the lighter weapons turn MUCH faster and the middle-weight 2hers and polearms get a slight slight turn buff. long maul and great maul turn rates seem pretty fine to me.

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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2018, 09:00:23 am »
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Its time

Only cunts who abuse the already broken stab mechanics of this turkish made game want this.

Cunts like you, Teeth the I play from my living room while my parents watch me, Darmaster the Italian midget gypsy, Gurnisson the Jew from Norway, etc etc etc.

Nope.

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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2018, 10:46:37 am »
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It is!
This Nerf stopped Gurnisson from roflcoptering like a boss!
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2018, 11:29:21 am »
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one of many and its very noticeable when you go to native and it just feels as if restraints are gone and you can play normally again.
Well, while we're at it let's remove the drawing speed nerf for the ranged because it's definitely a restraint. I'd love to shoot 10 arrows in 5 seconds.

Or, maybe those restraints are there for a reason and "look, Native has it" isn't a valid arguement. If I preferred native gameplay, I'd play native.
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2018, 11:46:50 am »
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It is!
This Nerf stopped Gurnisson from roflcoptering like a boss!

Both true and false. I gradually went more over to pike and long spear, having used more 2D polearms before.

Most 2D polearms were harshly effected by the turnrate nerf, especially the slow, long and heavy ones. The ones relying on the overhead (English Bill, Swiss Halberd and to some extend Long Maul) got hit the hardest by the change. Shorter spears and the longer pikes are still good, even though they obviously got nerfed, with the removal of floorstabbing and the reduced turnrate. They still have niches in the game though, and might've been too powerful before.

I doubt the complete removal of the turnrate would be wise at this point, as the nerf made positive, as well as negative, impact to the game. One could argue that weapons like the longest pikes, the longest hoplite spears and the dreaded great maul needed a nerf that was not just in stats, the problem is that other weapons got hit too harshly with the change.
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2018, 12:02:05 pm »
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I'm up for anything to spice up melee combat, after turnrate nerf and slowing down the game it feels like the most reliable way to land hits is to spam.. Which just isnt very satisfying at all.
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Re: Remove turnrate nerf
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2018, 12:13:21 pm »
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Isn't melee fighting already fast enough in crpg?

We already have plenty of agi 2h heroes, running towards you and moving their upper torso like this
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I don't support even more advantages for spastic close combat
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