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0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« on: January 04, 2018, 11:36:09 am »
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It's been three months since I became a dev, and miraculously, the mod has not burnt down and exploded in a huge mess. Instead, it's defied my expectations and has been growing in players, despite there being many no bugs in my code or patches. My Christmas break is almost over, but that doesn't mean I'll stop working on cRPG things, in fact, once I get back to my institution of learning I'll probably start spending a whole lot more time on this.

My usual 'discussion of things' here if you want to read it.
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Now for the good stuff. Patchnotes. Real ones this time, too!
Patchnotes
0.5.2.0:
-Professor/Rider: Fix to ladder bug
-Rico: New items/pictures of items in shop
-Professor/Desire: Balance to ranged
-Professor/Desire: Tweaks to armor soak
-Professor: Fix to strat loot bug (50/50 chance this fixes it)
-Professor: Tweaks to DTV gold gain

Things to fix
-Happy hour (It'll get fixed eventually, I swear)
-Small siege towers
-Fix launcher for those having issues with it

I'm sure a fair amount of you are curious about what happened with this ranged balance patch. The short answer is changes to slots. For example, to prevent crossbowers from using both an arbalast and a weapon that can be highly effective in melee (such as military hammer), the arbalast was increased to 4 slots, restricting crossbowers to a smaller selection of sidearms, reducing their effectiveness in melee. For bows, the higher-end bows were increased to 3 slots, but, all arrows were reduced to 0 slots. By doing so, we hope to see a shakeup in the current meta of STR-archery, as now, one can take a relatively powerful bow like the composite bow, and also use some 2h weapon.
There were more changes done to each of the crossbows, in order to better balance the class, but you can read the item changes to see them.

That's right, Item Changes. I'm actually going to get around to posting them this time. But before that, please note that, like armor soak values, this balancing effort is a work in progress! I certainly hope that we nail it on the first try, but it might take a few more than that. Do remember that the ultimate goal here is not to nerf a class into Oblivion (or Skyrim), it is to provide better balance between classes.

And here you go, Item Changes!
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get it new balance like the shoes. man I'm funny
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 11:53:51 am »
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Veselov will be pleased to hear this. Well done, Prof.
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 12:37:25 pm »
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2018, 12:58:35 pm »
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4 slots for heavy and arba, ouch fuck

but well, if it's for the greater good, alright then

at least there's a small selection of 0 slot 1h weapons now

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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2018, 01:08:24 pm »
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Quote from: RD_Professor on January 04, 2018, 11:36:09 am

Now for the good stuff. Patchnotes. Real ones this time, too!

-Professor: Tweaks to DTV gold gain


Shat myself with glee. Was playing yesterday evening, and gaining 1k gold only to repair for 1.5k or more every time when pushing into later stages was making me cry. Thanks RD! Happy new year all.
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2018, 01:20:59 pm »
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Someone just suggested this in the server and i support as i support anything with the word respec in it, that we should get a general free respec with drastic changes like these either when the balancing process is entirely done or now. (or why not both times)  :D
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 01:32:45 pm »
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I love all your efforts on reviving this mod, Prof. I really do.
But I really dont like the 4 slots on xbows.
I mean can you remember players like Dave_UKR?
Total Badass, this dude. Headshots the crap out of people with an arbalest and then goes 1v5 Mace Massacre.

Sadly he wont come back due to the 4 slot change on Xbows :/
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 01:53:31 pm »
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Quote from: Chris_the_Animal on January 04, 2018, 01:32:45 pm
Sadly he wont come back due to the 4 slot change on Xbows :/
was he gonna come back previously? I haven't seen him for a long time. Like ikarus said, as long as it serves to greater good, I'm okay with any nerf or buff. Will this patch do that? I don't know, time will tell.
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 01:55:20 pm »
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Total Badass, this dude. Headshots the crap out of people with an arbalest and then goes 1v5 Mace Massacre.

sounds like me  :lol: but I guess this is a thing of the past now, you can still fight people but it's going to be quite difficult. Just try to avoid shielders if you go with mace, their shields won't break when you drum on them. And try to avoid tincans when you go axe, cause you'll glance a lot
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2018, 02:20:07 pm »
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2018, 02:22:04 pm »
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I'd just like to ask why have a discrepancy between xbow slots and bow slots, all you've done is fix the slots of xbows and break the slots of bows, i'm unsure what the logic of this change was.
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2018, 02:23:43 pm »
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Trading +3 Arbalest for +3 Heavy Xbow.

End my suffering please

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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2018, 02:27:01 pm »
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So now, I got the ability to use my 3 slots bow, two stacks of bodkin arrows, and a long one handed ? Why.
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2018, 02:51:47 pm »
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what are the new items that are added? I can't see em

also why nerf accuracy on arbalest? even with 150 wpf and a +3 arb my crosshair bloom felt kind of big for the "cRPG AWP"
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Re: 0.5.2.0, New Year, New Balance(tm), New Beginnings
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2018, 03:16:16 pm »
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Quote from: Algarn on January 04, 2018, 02:27:01 pm
So now, I got the ability to use my 3 slots bow, two stacks of bodkin arrows, and a long one handed ? Why.
So the archers aren't completely helpless when a melee player catches up to them? Maybe they should have a fighting chance? It's not like you're gonna be able to slay experienced melee players left and right just because you have a nice, long weapon; having no weapon points in 1h.
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