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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2017, 08:55:00 pm »
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funny name, but you have now subjected yourself to the social justice inquisition that the admin team has created so that they can openly jerk off to the banning of retards
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2017, 08:59:18 pm »
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funny name, but you have now subjected yourself to the social justice inquisition that the admin team has created so that they can openly jerk off to the banning of retards

I am ready to be the holiest of martyrs.

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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2017, 09:37:48 pm »
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On topic, my stance might be a bit controvertial, but I think only bundle of stickss get offended by bad words.
If you call me a drunk russian krimea-occupying friend, I might think you're an idiot and an asshole, but in no way would I suffer from hearing/reading those words.
Having said that, though, banning idiots and assholes is not a bad thing either.

So, eh... I need to go have some sleep before I'm ready to draw any kind of conclusion from that.

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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2017, 10:56:56 pm »
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On topic, my stance might be a bit controvertial, but I think only bundle of stickss get offended by bad words.
If you call me a drunk russian krimea-occupying friend, I might think you're an idiot and an asshole, but in no way would I suffer from hearing/reading those words.
Having said that, though, banning idiots and assholes is not a bad thing either.

So, eh... I need to go have some sleep before I'm ready to draw any kind of conclusion from that.

ur right tho, i think the admins have deluded themselves with the idea that they have to protect the servers by filtering the internet; an impossible task that cannot be accomplished. i think the best way of stopping people from experiencing "racism" is by having a button  to mute (which we have) whatever asshole is typing slurs in chat. the idea of "creating a safe environment for new players" is bullshit, if people are so dumb as to think an entire mod is racist because they see one idiot in chat and therefore they stop playing, fuck em. real reason players don't continue on is the learning curve or maybe they just don't like it.

plus, why is it only racism that was banned, not bigotry in general? why can we say bundle of sticks on the servers? hypocritical as fuck, but at least the badmins are self aware about it.
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2017, 11:05:45 pm »
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I mute 2 or 3 people every play session anyway.

So like, whatever. Just don't kill the population with bans.
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2017, 11:25:08 pm »
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On topic, my stance might be a bit controvertial, but I think only bundle of stickss get offended by bad words.
If you call me a drunk russian krimea-occupying friend, I might think you're an idiot and an asshole, but in no way would I suffer from hearing/reading those words.
Having said that, though, banning idiots and assholes is not a bad thing either.

So, eh... I need to go have some sleep before I'm ready to draw any kind of conclusion from that.

+1, but it creates a weird position where the people who do get offended have to be the ones muting the ones being turds. I always find free chats to be the most enteratining though, people not caring at all and just going in raw. When something gets so absurdly offensive i just laugh instead of getting butthurt, it seems to be the default for the free chat, people just go ham. Twitch chat always ends up the same if unmoderated, its like most people really just think the same way.
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #66 on: July 08, 2017, 12:11:25 am »
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Rules are ghey.
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2017, 02:05:48 am »
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real reason players don't continue on is the learning curve or maybe they just don't like it.

Ban the learning curve!

Ban not liking it!

Even better ban learning!

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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2017, 09:36:43 am »
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make me an admin again

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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2017, 09:50:39 am »
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #70 on: July 08, 2017, 12:19:08 pm »
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make me an admin again

fuck almost went 1 year without posting

c'mon bud, you can't go breaking such a good streak with a post like that, you've gotta come back in with a bang not a whimper

On topic, my stance might be a bit controvertial, but I think only bundle of stickss get offended by bad words.
If you call me a drunk russian krimea-occupying friend, I might think you're an idiot and an asshole, but in no way would I suffer from hearing/reading those words.
Having said that, though, banning idiots and assholes is not a bad thing either.

So, eh... I need to go have some sleep before I'm ready to draw any kind of conclusion from that.

listen to the wise slav, for he speaks truth. allowing certain words to hold power over you is not desirable, in my view. even further, allowing an institution or group to dictate exactly what that word means and using this semantic definition as a litmus test to ask one's self "am I to be offended by X statement?" is as far as detestable

sure, i understand that plenty of folk would look at this post and say "wow what a pseudo-intellectual justification for using racial or other slurs", i'd say that any fault on my part lies in taking these things too seriously as a sort of philosophical or similar microcosm even though we're a bunch of spergs on the internet, rather than being some heinous mouthpiece for some imagined heinous and homogeneous group of genuine racists, bigots and misanthropes.

in closing, at this time i will humbly and stoically accept my position as NA admin. thank you for your time
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #71 on: July 08, 2017, 12:57:52 pm »
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ur right tho, i think the admins have deluded themselves with the idea that they have to protect the servers by filtering the internet; an impossible task that cannot be accomplished. i think the best way of stopping people from experiencing "racism" is by having a button  to mute (which we have) whatever asshole is typing slurs in chat. the idea of "creating a safe environment for new players" is bullshit, if people are so dumb as to think an entire mod is racist because they see one idiot in chat and therefore they stop playing, fuck em. real reason players don't continue on is the learning curve or maybe they just don't like it.

plus, why is it only racism that was banned, not bigotry in general? why can we say bundle of sticks on the servers? hypocritical as fuck, but at least the badmins are self aware about it.

Is it so controversial that I just don't want people calling eachother friends in chat? Is that demanding too much? I'm honestly curious why you think it's something impossible that cannot be accomplished. It's not about creating a safe zone, it's about creating an enviroment that's not toxic. At least personally it doesn't seem like too much to ask for, you can always use comms outside of the game if you want to banter with your friends or ride your friends or whatever, no? If you want to use in-game chat, you have to follow some rules, is what it is.

I already explained why I focused on racism in this rule change - because it's 1. a new rising tendency, 2. not socially acceptable, 3. something that hasn't taken roots yet and I believe (aka its imo) that we can stop it from becoming part of every day server interaction. It was merely a practical decision, I know that trying to tackle homophobic slurs would be much harder because people who know me know that I throw bundle of sticks around whenever agitated, it's too ingrained in gaming culture. But I won't believe you if you'll tell me that racial slurs have the same status as "bundle of sticks" or the like. They're just distasteful.

sure, i understand that plenty of folk would look at this post and say "wow what a pseudo-intellectual justification for using racial or other slurs", i'd say that any fault on my part lies in taking these things too seriously as a sort of philosophical or similar microcosm even though we're a bunch of spergs on the internet, rather than being some heinous mouthpiece for some imagined heinous and homogeneous group of genuine racists, bigots and misanthropes.

I would maybe agree that we're taking things too seriously, but that change didn't come from nothing at all, this is just cringe-worthy server behaviour that I don't like. We just reacted to an increase in tendency.
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #72 on: July 08, 2017, 01:45:52 pm »
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I would maybe agree that we're taking things too seriously, but that change didn't come from nothing at all, this is just cringe-worthy server behaviour that I don't like. We just reacted to an increase in tendency.

sorry, think i misspoke or your otherwise misunderstood. wasn't saying that "the admins" or you personally were taking any sort of measures too far. if it were up to me only repeated genuine harrassment or non-consensual sharing of RL info/etc would be disallowed, and i realize that my position places me firmly in the minority (lmao) on that.

i meant that it is possible and indeed likely that i think far too much about things like this on the internet, in broader and more meaningful principles that belong elsewhere and are almost inappropriate in a way for a place like this. of course i realize that this mod is not a] my private property b] a public (and anyway public means gub'mint owned generally and if someone rolled up to a national park visitor's center playing moonman kkk rap, it probably won't go well. if dubious charges can be tacked onto a well-adjusted person's case pretty easily, how easy do you think they can rustle up a couple charges for an IRL friend spammer wow that was a long parenthesis i gotta stop that) venue and  c] anything more than a temporarily-resuscitated fairly niche mod for a fairly niche PC game, this ain't really the place to argue fundamental ideology

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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #73 on: July 08, 2017, 04:45:17 pm »
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Look at it this way: if you wouldn't talk this way in a real public space, then why is it acceptable to talk like this here? Any pushback on these rules just sounds like whining that your one place to be an asshole without repurcussions for a cheap laugh with your friends is getting taken away. And stop hiding behind the veil of "free speech." Your chat spam isn't some highbrow critique of the admins that needs defending. It's a bunch of vitriol you most likely type to either get a rise out of decent people enjoying the game or in a fit of nerd rage. This sort of normalization of slurs makes NA 1 look like a private server for Stormfront, and God forbid they'd think the same.
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Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins
« Reply #74 on: July 08, 2017, 06:30:41 pm »
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