sparvico's day in the office

[Mallets]

Damn!  I go out of town... and this thread blows up even more!

So apparently I was muted on the forum along with a bunch of other folks in this thread... just because we had a different view point.  But from what I'm hearing and gathering... it was someone using Jacko's account and doing this outside the will of the admins/devs.  And the admin/devs seeing this... have overturned our mute-ban.  Is that about correct?

Anyways... glad that commonsense prevailed.  I hope they get to the bottom of it all... and find out who actually muted us.

I would have lost my shit if I was muted on the forum for just sharing my opinion... and mute-banned for "Racism" even though none of my post has any derogatory language... just trying to defend a view point among many cRPG-ers.  Glad I was out of town and didn't have to lose my shit!  I've never been banned in game or the forums (in over 5 years of playing).  Because while I may have strong view points... I namely try to stay civil.  Which myself and many of us (that were banned) did so in this thread.  Yet we were still banned.  That's pretty fucked up!

Again... thanks to devs/admins that corrected this!  And again... hope they catch the bastard that banned us and give out a punishment!

[Asheram]

They should give that guy who caught the muter a medal.

[Mallets]

They should give that guy a medal.

Come on Asheram... you've been here too long to believe that crap.  For folks to just share their opinion.  There's been no racial rants given in this thread.  Just folks defending their right to say anything (even racist language) in the chat.  Folks that agree and disagree should be respected if they do so in a civil manner.

This type of mute-ban is ridiculous... and lacks civility!

[Asheram]

Sorry but I don't think that first amendment rights include the right to spew racial slurs and derogatory statements.

[Drunken_sailor]

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was it you Asheram?  Do you deserve a medal? 

[Westwood]

I wasn't defending anyone saying anything myself, I just thought a different approach to the problem at hand would garner the result desired by the admin team. The obvious culprit has probably already fled to North Korea (give them to us, Yuang, or Nikki Haley will roast  刘结一 again) or Iran, his two favorite places in the world.

Mr. Asheram I'm afraid the First Amendment does keep an individual or group free from government censure for "spew[ing] racial slurs and derogatory statements." Your statement is incorrect.

You are welcome to question the relevance of that to cRPG and this (admittedly now moot) discussion, but not the content of 1A itself as laid out in the Constitution and reinforced through 229 years of Supreme Court case law.

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Democrats in the 1860's were just as retarded as Democrats today lel all men should be free

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of undo government interference

[Asheram]

So Westwood you should go find the biggest black guy in your area and practice your free speech and right to spew racial slurs at him. Film it for us too.

[Thryn]

Sorry but I don't think that first amendment rights include the right to spew racial slurs and derogatory statements.

sorry, 1st amendment protects all speech, hateful or cheerful, i made a huge post on it

you can debate whether or not the government infringes on those rights (which they do)

[Westwood]

So Westwood you should go find the biggest black guy in your area and practice your free speech and right to spew racial slurs at him. Film it for us too.

Try reading my previous post again and make special note of the words "government censure"

Here's the text of the first amendment for you:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

The parts you should focus your minute mental energy on are in bold.

The American government cannot see that I just called you a "friend" and legally punish me. Now, why would I call you a "friend" ? That is the question. Do you think I'm an asshole? I have no reason to refer to anyone in ways contrary to social norms. I've said that plenty of times in plenty of ways, the fault is yours at this point.

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I love minorities and immigrants. America clearly needs more legal immigrants to afford our gargantuan entitlement system. Social Security has been bankrupt since its inception, when FDR mated with Satan to produce  A d o l f ' s  wet dream social program.

[Asheram]

"The First Amendment to the United States Constitution generally prohibits government regulation of speech, even when the speaker’s opinions are reprehensible to the general public. The First Amendment does not, however, protect all speech. It does not, for example, protect speech that leads to illegal activity and/or imminent violence, obscenity, defamation, and libel.

The First Amendment also does not protect speakers from liability for the foreseeable consequences of their speech. In cases where speakers encourage their audience to commit certain illegal or inherently dangerous acts, liability may rest with speakers and the forums that they use. "
https://www.maldef.org/truthinimmigration/does_the_first_amendment_protect3182008/index.html
I guess you are right, have at it then but at least have the balls to say it to someone's face and not just an anonymous format.

[Mallets]

Sorry but I don't think that first amendment rights include the right to spew racial slurs and derogatory statements.

I'm not talking about that.  You said that the guy that muted a dozen folks or so for simply sharing their opinion in this thread should be given a medal.

Whether racial slurs should be allowed or not (which now they are not allowed)... is beside the point.  The point being... should an admin have muted all of us for simply sharing our thoughts on chat rules!

You really think we should have been muted for our opinion?  Again, I'm not saying muted for using a racial slur.  We did not do so.  They were muted for simply sharing an opinion and view point.

Then why are you not muted for your opinion?  What makes your opinion any different.  Sure, you are on a different side of the fence on the topic.  But are post used the same civility as folks on the other side of the fence.  We just wanted a different goal.  But our post were made in a proper manner.

[Asheram]

I am sorry I was just trying to get my infamy up some.

[Westwood]

I guess you are right, have at it then but at least have the balls to say it to someone's face and not just an anonymous format.

I'm a good Christian dude I don't care for vulgarity pal.