Thinking of becoming a vegetarian

[LordBerenger]

Is this reverse psychology?

Yes

[Grytviken]

Human brain development and evolution is most likely linked to eating cooked meat

[the real god emperor]

This is officially the only thread downvoted by Porthos

[Porthos]

This is officially the only thread downvoted by Porthos

I don't get the animal abuse part

As well as I don't get the following line:

And human is not superior to other beings in the world nor more valuable.

Never understood people who value the humans and other animals the same. Are you fucking retarded? I'd like to see you being raised by animals just like those feral childs who lose their humanity and become the worthless meatbags barking and running on all fours. Okay, if you value the humans and animals the same, you can imagine yourself living perfectly in a world where humans are replaced by animals, right? Wouldn't you love to spend all your days living in a zoo maybe, w/o even understanding a single thing that comes from your beloved creatures' mouths. Oh wait, in the end of the day you'd probably got killed by some lion or smashed by some elephant running scared, what a shame... If you value the cow or the pig the same as the human, you're the fucking imbecile to me.

Saying this I don't mean that I hate animals. For example, I have 3 cats living with me, all brought into my home from the streets. But I have a very little sorrow to those animals rasied in meat factories, because getting killed one day is the only reason they've been born. Anyway, I love animals, but surely I don't love them as much as humans.

Sorry, but the stuff like this just gets my ass exploded

p.s. And the ones who value the animals even more than humans are the top trash bags to me. Crying over a photo of some dead puppy or a kitten and giving a zero fucks about thousands of people who die every day is fucking embarrassing. Fuck you litteraly, or I mean go get fucked by the animal you like, some horse or a dog probably. Fucking zoophiles

[Porthos]

got exploded too much, double posted accidentally

[the real god emperor]

Nobody said zoos are good, too.Nor said I dislike humans. I know the only reason they are born is to be eaten, the whole point is how to act on changing that.  Also give me a reason why a human is more valuable than x animal. What is the point of your text besides firing hatred bolts all over?

[Porthos]

Give me a reason why a human is more valuable than x animal. What is the point of your text besides firing hatred bolts all over?

I'm eating a good fried chicken leg right now, so I don't have much time or will to explain all this stuff (which to me seems so obvious to explain normally). Besides, if you by yourself can't get the difference between humans and x animals (ability to speak, to write, to communicate, all the culture, the science, the medicine, all the knowledge and all the environment around you, the fucking internet you're sitting where invented by not some x animal, u know)... As I said, if you value the x animal the same as the human, you're the fucking imbecile to me. And I don't see there's much point in speaking to imbeciles.

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[Porthos]

i've re-read the thing i wrote here, and i'd like to clarify that i don't have anything against vegans (kudos to you, Kratos, for the good intentions coming from your mind) or environmentalists, and basically i love animals too, the only thing which caused the rant was the line equating the humans and the other animals. for some strange reason it got me:

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sorry for the rude words have been spoken

[Porthos]

also, since i also "-'d" this:

100% agree on abusing animals stuff. Hunting your food with bare hands while being butt naked is the only proper and manly way of obtaining meat. Buying meat at your local supermarket is equal to being a flimsy farmer who humbly trades his shitty potatoes for big boy meat. The meat that we buy isn't even "true" meat anyway - most of it is trash-tier bred animals. Only naturally occuring animals that live in the wilderness classify as "true" meat. Bred animals are practically vegetables, pork being the lowest of the low (jews have known that for a long time). I don't despise the bred animals or anything - as a bottom tier white trash, I somewhat identify with them even. We were both bred by our "masters" (humans for animals, rich fucks for humans) to slave our lives away, and then die.

i think that having bred animals is much more "humane" than hunting the animals living in the nature for the same purpose (to eat their meat). that's why i feel sorry for the animals getting killed while hunting and feel *almost* none for the animals raised at the factory farms. you know, all these bred animals were domisticated thousands of years ago (for example, domestic pigs domesticated from wild boars, and so on), and came through a massive selection process to be what they are being now (the food). that's literally the purpouse of these animals - to be the food. while the wild animals are getting killed by us mostly for fun. i mean all these things like safari and stuff. the hunting has become just another one entertaining hobby for the people living in rich countries these days. there is a very little ammount of people who actually need to hunt animals on a daily basis to get the food simply to survive (i talk about eskimos, aborigines or other people live in nature for their own reasons). and if you have option to go and buy some meat at your local supermarket but you chose to go and hunt some wild animal to get the same, you're a fucking imbecile a person with a very strange logic to me as well.

or maybe that's just me didn't yet get the point of the "true meat" meme speeches, "debating" with a seriousness a thing that was originally intented by you to be fun

[Bittersteel]

Exchange 'humans' with 'white people' and 'animals' with 'colored people'. You're a dirty little zoophobe, Porthos. Shame on you.

[Gurgumul]

also, since i also "-'d" this:i think that having bred animals is much more "humane" than hunting the animals living in the nature for the same purpose (to eat their meat). that's why i feel sorry for the animals getting killed while hunting and feel *almost* none for the animals raised at the factory farms. you know, all these bred animals were domisticated thousands of years ago (for example, domestic pigs domesticated from wild boars, and so on), and came through a massive selection process to be what they are being now (the food). that's literally the purpouse of these animals - to be the food. while the wild animals are getting killed by us mostly for fun. i mean all these things like safari and stuff. the hunting has become just another one entertaining hobby for the people living in rich countries these days. there is a very little ammount of people who actually need to hunt animals on a daily basis to get the food simply to survive (i talk about eskimos, aborigines or other people live in nature for their own reasons). and if you have option to go and buy some meat at your local supermarket but you chose to go and hunt some wild animal to get the same, you're a fucking imbecile a person with a very strange logic to me as well.

or maybe that's just me didn't yet get the point of the "true meat" meme speeches, "debating" with a seriousness a thing that was originally intented by you to be fun

Yes, hunting animals for fun is even worse than breeding them. What I meant to say is that breeding animals into factories, where they spend their lives motionless in a cage with fodder on one side and shit on the other, should never happen. The natural habitat of domesticated animals (pigs, cows, chickens and so on) is the farm, not the factory. Of course, such meat is more expensive, but meat is kind of supposed to be a luxury, not every day food. Growing animals on a farm is not really a better solution, but a less bad one - it's the lesser evil compared to not breeding animals at all and only occasionally hunting them. You could say that the way farm animals are killed is more humane than the way wild animals are hunted. But the thing is, if the farm animals were never born, they wouldn't have to be killed in the first place. With modern technology, it's possible to live healthily as a vegan - but again - that's expensive af. If you have to eat meat, then it's also possible to hunt wild animals quickly and almost painlessly.

Anyway, the only final solution to everything is to nuke this gay Earth.

[Xant]

A study done found that vegans using creatine increased their IQ by ~12 points. Their diet lacks more than just B-12.

[Gurgumul]

A study done found that vegans using creatine increased their IQ by ~12 points. Their diet lacks more than just B-12.

Just as a side note, IQ only measures how well you do with certain specific puzzles. Being intelligent in general usually means that you will also do well with these puzzles. But it's completely possible to be dumb, but good at these puzzles. The reason IQ is used so often is because the test are quick, cheap, and easy to conduct. A test which measures actual intelligence would have to take hours, as it would have to measure various areas of intelligence , not just the very narrow puzzles.

If an animal can pass the mirror test, you probably shouldn't eat it.  Otherwise fair game, brah

There is self-awareness and there is consciousness. A robot can be programmed to be self aware, but it still won't be conscious (won't have a soul if you prefer that term). Whether animals are conscious or not is kind of a controversial topic, but personally, I believe that they do, even if they're not self aware.

[Asheram]

If an animal can pass the mirror test, you probably shouldn't eat it.  Otherwise fair game, brah

[Xant]

Just as a side note, IQ only measures how well you do with certain specific puzzles. Being intelligent in general usually means that you will also do well with these puzzles. But it's completely possible to be dumb, but good at these puzzles. The reason IQ is used so often is because the test are quick, cheap, and easy to conduct. A test which measures actual intelligence would have to take hours, as it would have to measure various areas of intelligence , not just the very narrow puzzles.

IQ tests have a very high correlation with g.