Author Topic: Jesus fucking christ, I always knew that Turks were dumb, but NOT THAT DUMB!!!  (Read 20629 times)

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I don't know what is there to do now. Fix country by elections? Doesn't seem doable. Find job in the west and leave country? Never would lose your identity especially as a Turk. It is pretty much screwed up in all possible outcomes, sad times we are living in.
Being Turk, supporting Fenerbahçe, studying engineering, sounds like a cancer triangle to me tbh.

If i was a Turk i'd move to the EU and abuse them for all they are worth, theyre giving away free shit ( even to Terrorists), that's their problem not yours. Use the welfare money they give you to move to the United States, people here don't even know what a Turk is so you'll never run into prejudice. You'll have a good shot making it far here especially as a engineer if you have an independent mindset.

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i thought all yuropoors was living on welfare checks, isnt that what socialism/communism is all about?

fascism won in the end and replaced socialism in former communist countries
welfare still exist in the north where you pay 50% income tax to fund public schools, hospital, aid for those in need
in the corrupted south no one pays taxes because it gets stolen and never invested into welfare
recently they are forcing us to pay by sending state goons to confiscate anything valuable they can find
next set of laws will remove unemployment aid completely, basically 'murica but with 80% unemployment rate (official data says 13% lol) and 300$ average monthly salary
the more i think about it, sounds exactly like african country :mrgreen:

edit: read on Ukraine situation, to see all creative ways to steal money from the poor

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fascism won in the end and replaced socialism in former communist countries
welfare still exist in the north where you pay 50% income tax to fund public schools, hospital, aid for those in need
in the corrupted south no one pays taxes because it gets stolen and never invested into welfare
recently they are forcing us to pay by sending state goons to confiscate anything valuable they can find
next set of laws will remove unemployment aid completely, basically 'murica but with 80% unemployment rate (official data says 13% lol) and 300$ average monthly salary
the more i think about it, sounds exactly like african country :mrgreen:

edit: read on Ukraine situation, to see all creative ways to steal money from the poor

Everything European seems overly complex and redundant. At first I admired the possibilities but then after some observations I've come to the conclusion that having 20 political parties for a nation that is smaller then most US states is insanity and disunity. There are no winners in Europe, everyone loses. The socialist structure doesn't match the amount of fractured ideologies of all the different parties, something just seems terribly off.

I thought really highly of the European multi-party system at first, not being a fan of the two party system here, in general I thought it was an alternative to give people more of a voice. But now i'm more convinced than ever that meritocracy and individuality is the only way forward, all parties have the vice of having ulterior attachments and loyalties. Trump has been the only leader here elected in a long time purely on meritocracy and not party loyalty, I hope this continues to be a trend here.
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Two party and multi-party has it's own pros and cons. Weakness of multi-party which is a real problem now in the current sandfriend infestation is that one party can't take control and push out their preferred changes, they just get more representatives that can push for it when it gets up to vote, but ofc the other parties can just band together against it and prevent it from going over the threshold.
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there are two reasons why 20 different political parties exist, first is an excuse to make it seem like there's some sort of democracy going on, second reason is very simple, being politician is by far the easiest way to get rich in post commie countries.

i used to think differently but these days i tend to make difference between socialism and communism and not in theoretical way as marx defined it. for me communism that existed in some countries and still exist in few is a lot like fascism. basically communism equals fascism and socialism combined. socialism is just that part of caring for the poor, equal rights and that shit. when you remove that from communism you get fascism which is what countries like russia and followers turned into.

now i have to admit this, i'm actually cool with certain aspects of fascism. do not value freedom as most of americans do and i'm fine with lack of understanding from society for certain behaviors that aren't considered the norm. fully support nazi ideal of man, honest, hardworking, decent looking, behaving properly. have zero complains there. but scary part of it i do not support and that is exactly where socialism kicks in to help the less fortunate, by birth or because of bad circumstances.

when i look at modern man and women, i'm a bit disgusted tbh. tattoos, piercings, dreads, tan, permanent state of dishonesty, complete lack of empathy, self centered state of mind, troublesome and often unpredictable behavior, various addictions, lack of virtues, focus on sexuality. it's like someone went to the pit and brought back millions of people back to earth. diversity is good, but we shouldn't all become one homogeneous group. whites should be whites and not look like they got out of prison. blacks can have as many tattoos they want, it is their culture after all. i'm against blending of cultures. if 50 years from now average citizen of earth has light brown complexity, caucasian facial features, is tall like nordic people, someone may find that great i'll say we fucked up.

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now i have to admit this, i'm actually cool with certain aspects of fascism. do not value freedom as most of americans do and i'm fine with lack of understanding from society for certain behaviors that aren't considered the norm. fully support nazi ideal of man, honest, hardworking, decent looking, behaving properly. have zero complains there. but scary part of it i do not support and that is exactly where socialism kicks in to help the less fortunate, by birth or because of bad circumstances.



Were these really chocolate chip ideals or just ideals they borrowed at the expense of the German and Prussian people like they borrowed the hindu lolsticka and Roman Salute? I think these ideals were pretty widespread throughout the British Empire and the United States at this time as well as most other western nations.

As far as "clean cut" goes, western military's had a hard on for everything French up until WW2, especially in the United States, and thought the French and Napoleon were pussy magnets and gods of war and tried to imitate them despite all the white flag surrender memes you see today. This is where you first see the "baggy" "hip" style  in the form of French Zouave military attire that eventually transitioned into the "zoot" suits and so fourth...

The French are single-handedly responsible for the fashion transition of the west. What was originally French military pomp turned into

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That last dude is exactly what I'm talking about. It's just wrong. He should get his shit together and behave like a proper whitey. Acting like wigger is one of the worst offenses white man can do people surrounding him. It doesn't insult white people only, but everybody. I bet Asians cringe super hard when they see that shit.

I don't mind boys from the hood doing their thing, I'm well aware of their cultural background since they came as slaves to American continent, working in the fields while singing to ease the pain, which later transformed into blues, jazz, soul, hip-hop and rap. Although these modern 'artists' coming from the 'hood' look more like genuine assholes. Honestly can't find single young and 'emerging' rap/hip-hop artist I find decent. They ain't like Snoop, pot smoking, porn loving weirdo who actually came to Serbia to record a song with some random plastic whore :lol: (we're yet to figure out what was that about, it is by far the most random thing that happened in last half a decade or more).

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Whether it is important or not that just a piece of cloth burned is the major difference between us to be honest. Not just Erdogan supporters, but 99 percent of Turkey would go apeshit if somewhere else they did the same ritual but with the Turkish flag burning. Faith is strong both in Islamists and Kemalists and both are far from reality. Delusions and dogmas are the main reasons why we have this turmoil since even before the Republic was founded. It wasn't any different when lefties held the power as coalitions, it was the Islamists who suffered, who got exiled to god forsaken villages in Erzurum. It is one of the reasons why Erdogan's supporters are binary programmed, they feel like they will lose their rights to wear scarfs or go to mosques if they were a minority.

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Whether it is important or not that just a piece of cloth burned is the major difference between us to be honest. Not just Erdogan supporters, but 99 percent of Turkey would go apeshit if somewhere else they did the same ritual but with the Turkish flag burning. Faith is strong both in Islamists and Kemalists and both are far from reality. Delusions and dogmas are the main reasons why we have this turmoil since even before the Republic was founded. It wasn't any different when lefties held the power as coalitions, it was the Islamists who suffered, who got exiled to god forsaken villages in Erzurum. It is one of the reasons why Erdogan's supporters are binary programmed, they feel like they will lose their rights to wear scarfs or go to mosques if they were a minority.

Do you believe that a majoritiy of turkish citizens are of nationalist nature?  Could you define an optimal state in which most would feel fine?  As in "how could a turkish state be, in which most turks would feel well"  and how would the relations of that state be to other nations?
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Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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Reading this thread increased my complex stupidity by about 3.4 mturks and 12 µleshmas. Thank you.
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Do you believe that a majoritiy of turkish citizens are of nationalist nature?  Could you define an optimal state in which most would feel fine?  As in "how could a turkish state be, in which most turks would feel well"  and how would the relations of that state be to other nations?

Yes most Turks are nationalists. I can safely say that. What pushes us to be this way is never ending terrorism through decades and unfortunate events we had in the last century. In earlier days of AKP, before their corruption scandals, before they started speaking of "the great game". You will see then they had somewhat of a secular point of view towards homosexuals*, other religions or ethnicities. That was all we needed. A pre-retard AKP. Only people who disliked AKP was hardcore Kemalists or Grey Wolves. But by time Erdogan took all the other heads of the party down. They started pointing at enemies inside and outside (Kurds, Turkish Shia, CHP, US, Europe) like a natural fascist government. They injected hate in everyone and rose the tensions to this point. If they were true to their first standing, any self-concious Turk would be OK to live that way.

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/we-know-netherlands-dutch-from-srebrenica-massacre-erdogan.aspx?pageID=238&nID=110792&NewsCatID=510

"Turkey vows to mobilize Islamic world against Euro-fascism"

"Turkey will intensify its efforts against racism, Islamophobia and xenophobia on all international platforms, especially at the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) as Turkey’s government is currently the term president, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said March 14.

“This matter is not a matter merely for Turkey. This fascism that shows its dirty face is negatively impacting all Muslims and foreigners living in Europe,” he said at a Doctor’s Day meeting.

Erdoğan called on Turks, Muslims and foreigners living in Germany and the Netherlands not to vote for parties that espouse anti-Turkey policies.

In a new attack against the Dutch in their spat, Erdoğan also held the Netherlands responsible for Europe’s worst mass killing since World War II.

“We know the Netherlands and the Dutch from the Srebrenica massacre. We know how rotten their character is from their massacre of 8,000 Bosnians there,” he said."


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