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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #360 on: June 01, 2017, 10:47:29 am »
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People will hear what they want to hear. I'd bet if OKAM team actually claimed "open world is never coming" some fanbois would still think "but maybe in the future, right?".

"The roadmap is only the features we know we can deliver, if the team grows we might be able to do more" poor gullible people falling for this, but it is alas a hard life lesson they need to learn to not get scammed on every corner

Since we're talking about scams already, the OKAM team has taken a new approach to responding to questions about fixing the fraudulent text on their official pages: ignorance

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Mind you how theworldofdavo was active a couple of minutes before Ramses' question, and so was Pogo. Needless to say there was no answer from them at all.

No answer to this either
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Pogo and davo both active in Discord minutes later
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But but strategic map : - ( !
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #361 on: June 01, 2017, 12:38:27 pm »
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Wasn't Valve going to do something about games giving false information on their store page compared to the actual product? I remember hearing about that but I cba googling for it.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #362 on: June 01, 2017, 01:12:21 pm »
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There were some games that were taken down by Steam for false/misleading steam page info (Sergey Titov's WarZ for example), but I'm certain it takes quite a lot of people reporting it. WarZ made a LOT of people very angry, while OKAM never took off properly to even get a decent size playerbase.

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #363 on: June 01, 2017, 01:12:58 pm »
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Takes time (months apparently) to formulate new images and text that puts the game in a worse, yet updated light.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #364 on: June 01, 2017, 01:56:20 pm »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #365 on: June 01, 2017, 05:34:25 pm »
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I joined in.

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The following is my part in the discussion:
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Two or even three weeks ago - I am not sure about the correct timeframe, let's settle on 'a whike ago' - I mentioned the issue of fraudulent advertisement (misleading is not a word strong enough) on the Store page. The answer was along the line "Soon. We are working on it."
I can't help but wonder how it is possible to only have this bad excuse of a preview road map ready after such a long time?

None of the content on the Store page is accurate. It is a 100% wrong. This should have been fixed months ago. Pushing the responsibility to the publisher is just a bad excuse.

Everyone involved in this project should be ashamed.

I will now look for a possibility to report the current situation to someone responsible at Steam/Valve and I can only urge others to do the exact same thing.
Every review with the word 'scam' inside is just a appropriate description of the current situation and well deserved.


Edit: I wanna inform you that I reported OKAM via the Store page as a Fraud. The following reasoning was attached to my report:

"The product description of this game is completely inaccurate.
Following the development closely since the beginning, I want to point out that the beginning dev-team has been completely replaced by the publisher.
Features described for the future development on the store page have been cancelled since months, made only known on the attached Discord channel but neither in the forum nor here on the store page.
These cancelled features are main incentives for a purchase.
This is fradulent advertisement."
« Last Edit: June 01, 2017, 05:43:23 pm by Molly »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #366 on: June 01, 2017, 08:07:30 pm »
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What happend to chadz is horrible, but i don't get it why some people want the game they bought to die?

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #367 on: June 01, 2017, 08:43:18 pm »
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how can it die when it's dead already

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #368 on: June 01, 2017, 08:43:27 pm »
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What happend to chadz is horrible, but i don't get it why some people want the game they bought to die?
It is a still birth (look Vibe, I paid attention!) and already dead.
We're merely - if even - beating a dead horse.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #369 on: June 02, 2017, 01:01:44 am »
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Strong desire to reply to thread with only "I'm gay". Trying to resist oh gods give me strength I don't know if I can do it

I feel your pain my dude

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But don't worry, some krems guy "Dan" is trolling the thread sufficiently and what a surprise, Ramses took the bait !
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #370 on: June 02, 2017, 01:23:22 am »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #371 on: June 02, 2017, 01:39:59 am »
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It is a still birth (look Vibe, I paid attention!) and already dead.
We're merely - if even - beating a dead horse.

Dunno, i regret that i bought OKAM and not Witcher 3, both were on sale and i bought OKAM.  :cry: Plis, gib money back. :cry:

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #372 on: June 02, 2017, 04:03:16 am »
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I think the response of some elements of the cRPG community to the failure of OKAM has been completely abhorrent. As disappointed as I was that chadz and the team were not able to complete the project that many of us invested into, I cannot understand the way that some people here have treated those involved with the game since. Of course there have been problems with the new development, that was always going to be the case. I do believe the new developers should be much more transparent and present a much more honest picture of the game in its current state, that said the way that some people have responded to these problems has been embarrassing to say the least.

I do not believe that the new development team will deliver on the product that was sold by the donkeys but also nor is it reasonable to expect that they would. The attempts to undermine what progress they make and to discredit the work that they put in is frankly disgraceful and serves no purpose other than to make a bad thing worse.  I truly wish the new developer the best of luck with the future of the product and that they can at least create something of value from it, but i have no intention of committing any interest or effort to it for good or bad.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #373 on: June 02, 2017, 05:08:08 am »
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I do believe the new developers should be much more transparent and present a much more honest picture of the game in its current state, that said the way that some people have responded to these problems has been embarrassing to say the least.

There's a big difference between what appears to be deliberately misleading the consumer and just not being transparent enough. I can understand why people are frustrated (I lost interest months ago myself), especially considering that some of us invested real cash money into the game years ago. I think what Heskey and co are asking is perfectly reasonable; there's false advertising on the Steam page, why is it still there when the developers know that it's misleading? Cash grab? Or does it really take months to reword a few things on the Steam page and website?
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #374 on: June 02, 2017, 08:03:58 am »
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Casimir seems to be a kind of person who apologizes to the thief for not being rich enough.

It's not some free mod anymore. It's a business. A product is being sold. That changes the standards that should be uphold by quite a bit, don't you think?
There is no difference to the VW scandal and the current developer, both were/are selling on fraudulent advertisement. Only the size is different.
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